Re: Second coming of jesus disputed by ghamdi
I like to share some of my feelings here after viewing some of the replies from those friends who consider the miraculous birth, life and disappearance of Jesus Alihi Salam as the figment of those minds which are heavily relied on the traditions and concepts of pagan Romans, Israelites and Magians. I think before replying to them there are some of the salient features about such persons who try to Rationalize every concept of faith according to the set parameters of intellect and logic;
Conflict between Rationalism & Religion
This is an age old conflict in between the religions and Abrahamic faiths are no exception to these controversies. The reformist movements in Judaism and Christianity are proofs of such conflict when the traditional mainstream clerics of those faiths faced the challenges from their own adherents who rightly so challenged the distortions of their faith & creed. Those distortions were the direct and indirect result of the suppressions and persecution of their tormentors and therefore the bulk of their religious corpus were lost and which was later retrieved by some of those individuals who based their content merely on speculations and remnants of those scrolls which they discovered from those regions where they were humiliated and punished (Dead sea scrolls for instance and the collection of Old & New Testaments are some of the prime examples here)
The same sort of co0nflict appeared from the matrix of the first bloody civil war of Islam when the group of deviant Muslims parted their ways from Imam Ali RA and thus laid the foundation of the first splinter group of Islam known as Kharajites. After them different groups appeared in Islamic era the likes of which we can see even in this age as well but let us just focus on that early era again and see the role of Mutazilites (The first group of Islam which aligned themselves towards rationalism and placed more emphasis on the strict logical and allegorical meanings of the Holy Quran and Hadith literature). Many of the proponents of rationalism in Islamic world in our age have their leanings and affiliations with that Mutazilite faction of Islam despite the fact that they received the deadliest blows from the traditionalist centuries ago by using their own methods of logic and reasoning in a subtle and refined manner. Here it is to be noted that traditionalist factions of Islam were also reputedly used to adhere to the realms of logic and rationality in their theological debates but they never relied too much on its validity in the interpretation of the holy corpus of Islam.
Modern Scientific Environment
The modern age of science & technology is partially responsible for that sort of behavior of those Muslims who are eager to view every precept and ideology of Islam under the strict framework of material sciences. Hence we have these wide scale misconceptions of physical evolution, denial of miracles and every such act or incident which does not conform to the confines of the material sciences of this current age. Like the denial of the miracles of Prophets such as Moses & Jesus Alihim Salam and Prophet Muhammad SAW (The famous miracle of the splitting of moon for instance) and the urge of the Messianic figures in all of these Abrahamic faiths to redeem those concerned faiths and to bring salvation and prosperity to their adherents. Not long ago the same material scientist used to uphold the concept of indestructibility of the matter like the sacred amulet but thanks to the Einsteinian Physics that myth and misconception has broken in the last century which has just passed few years ago. For them what matters is the realities of matter and anything else even the concepts of a religion has to conform to such strict framework or else they are just the amalgamation of speculative creed propagating by the blocked clergy of such faiths.
Now coming back to the main points of this discussion and I would like to wind up my discussion on this thread by presenting some of the Ayaats of Holy Quran which indirectly indicates that the second coming of Jesus PBUH is imminent and will serve as one of the major portent of last hour;
Surah Al Imran (3: 55): Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
Notice the words that I will raise thee to Myself and will place your Believers (The scholars of Quran agree that here in true spirit Muslims are mentioned and on the loose side Christians as well) upon those who disbelieve (Meaning Jews who rejected Jesus AS during his blessed presence among them). For intelligent people here merely and indication is enough to state here that who are ruling the Jews ever since the disappearance of Jesus AS in the 30 C.E first the Romans (Who later converted to Christianity as a whole in 300 C.E) then the Greeks, Muslims and now in current age Christians of US & EU again are ruling the whole world to such extent that Jews have to rely heavily on their muscle and financial power to exists and survive in this world.
Surah Al Imran (3:56): "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
This Ayaat is self explanatory to those who still think that Allah will not punish the rejecters of His prophets in this world and here rejecters are addressed to the Jews again by the majority of Quranic scholars. Again the same principle would be applied here as I mentioned in my previous post that its a primordial condition that the Prophet of that nation would be present to see the end of his rejecters as evident from the stories of Prophet Noah, Aad, Saleh, Lut, Shoiab and Moses (To the Egyptian Pharaohs) Alihim Salam. So if that sunnah of Allah SWT can continue for those gigantic Prophets why not the same Sunnah (Divine Method) would be repeated here for the Jews?
Surah Al Imran (3:137): Many were the Ways of Life that have passed away before you: travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who rejected Truth.
Surah Qaf (50:36): But how many generations before them did We destroy (for their sins),- stronger in power than they? Then did they wander through the land: was there any place of escape (for them).
SUrah Al Ahzab (33:62) (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: No change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.
It should solidify someones creed and dogma that Allahs Sunah cant be changed and any nation dares to obstinately defy the message of their Rasools will be perished with no exception at all. Only a rejecter of Quran and the Sunnah of Prophet PBUH can afford to hold the opinion contrary to the above mentioned principles in the Ayaats of Holy Quran. Now lets see some more proofs from the Holy Quran which indirectly indicates the second coming of Prophet Jesus PBUH on this earth;
Surah Al Nisa (4:157): That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah. But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him no
Surah Al Nisa (4:158): Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise
Surah Al Nisa (4:159): And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them
The most important Ayaa for the discussed matter of this thread lies in 159 where it has been clearly and explicitly mentioned that any people of the book (We know who they are in our current context of the above mentioned Ayaats) would not face the Day of Judgment before His Death and so on. Now lets see in to this matter a bit closely did the Jews believed on Jesus AS before his disappearance or ascension from the earth? The answer is emphatically No and if its established that they rejected him then one can easily add this point that what about the Sunnah of Allah as mentioned in the above Ayaats of Holy Quran? Surely Jews will face the fate of ultimate destruction from Allah SWT until and unless they now accept the Prophet-hood of Muhammad PBUH as mentioned clearly in Bani Israel Surah of Holy Quran that Your Lord will again bestow His umpteenth mercy and blessing upon you if you avail this final chance. The possibility of this happening is similar to that premise that the arch Satan would declare truce from the animosity of Mankind in the near future. And for those cynical minds who would again refer this 159 Ayaa of Sura Nisa to the Holy Quran will have to take the context of its preceding Ayaats where again the subject matter is related to Prophet Jesus AS.
P.S: If some members here are insistent that the verses which are quoted above especially the 61th of Al Zukhruf and 159 of Nisa then I have to ask them that why Allah SWT has extensively used Kitaab for the Holy Quran whenever He wants to refer it for its readers. Why on such alien occasions the pronoun of Inahu and Inaa is referred to the Quran instead of Kitaab? For the people of conjecturing even the Sage Luqman did not have any remedy and medicine so what shall I do in this regard. Anyhow I will stick to the translation of Furry87 of Zukhrufs 61th Ayaa and would like to close my case here on this thread with this post its up to the people to believe it or not as I cant change their minds and line of thought.
