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Re: Raymond Davis links with lashkar e jhangvi
this is the biggest lie that reymond had any links with some sunni party or taliban.
these lies are propogated by some sectarian minded american loving liberals and their slaves who want to divert hatred against america tpwards islamic parties!(after this reymond davis episode)
this is the biggest lie that reymond had any links with some sunni party or taliban.
these lies are propogated by some sectarian minded american loving liberals and their slaves who want to divert hatred against america tpwards islamic parties!(after this reymond davis episode)
Re: Raymond Davis links with lashkar e jhangvi
infact from hands of reymond were recovered photos of islamic party headquarters like jamaat dawaa and sipah e sahaaba etc.he was doing spying of these parties because these parties are fighting against american aggressors,
its sad to know how much people lie in pakistan,including our agancies...this is why allahs blessings are far away from us
even kufar lie less than pakistanis
funniest thing here in pakistan is that our agancies and rulers label mujahideen as american agents,same mujahideen who are sacrificing their lives fighting against the americans.for freedom...but our rulers and agencies who work as slaves of americans ,no one labels them as american agents!
these are times of liars...but inshalah allah will crush the liars soon.
infact from hands of reymond were recovered photos of islamic party headquarters like jamaat dawaa and sipah e sahaaba etc.he was doing spying of these parties because these parties are fighting against american aggressors,
its sad to know how much people lie in pakistan,including our agancies...this is why allahs blessings are far away from us
even kufar lie less than pakistanis
funniest thing here in pakistan is that our agancies and rulers label mujahideen as american agents,same mujahideen who are sacrificing their lives fighting against the americans.for freedom...but our rulers and agencies who work as slaves of americans ,no one labels them as american agents!
these are times of liars...but inshalah allah will crush the liars soon.
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Re: Raymond Davis links with lashkar e jhangvi
its time that we target the liberals who are working as american poodles...or one by one we will all die by hands of kufar
its time that we target the liberals who are working as american poodles...or one by one we will all die by hands of kufar
ABDULLAH.K.T
Citizen
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan
God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael, the archangel, found him, resting on the seventh day..
He inquired, "Where have you been?"
God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put life on it. I'm going to [HI]call it Earth and it's going to be a place to test Balance."[/HI][HI]
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[HI]"Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm still confused."[/HI][HI]
[/HI]
God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth. "For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black
people. Balance in all things."
God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in snow."
The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and said, "What's that one?"
"That's the State of Maryland, the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills, and plains. The people from the State of Maryland are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of good things."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God? You said there would be balance..."
[HI]God smiled, "Right next to Maryland is Washington DC I HAVE PUT ALL THE IDIOTS Over THERE."[/HI]
God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael, the archangel, found him, resting on the seventh day..
He inquired, "Where have you been?"
God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put life on it. I'm going to [HI]call it Earth and it's going to be a place to test Balance."[/HI][HI]
[/HI]
[HI]"Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm still confused."[/HI][HI]
[/HI]
God explained, pointing to different parts of Earth. "For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black
people. Balance in all things."
God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in snow."
The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and said, "What's that one?"
"That's the State of Maryland, the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills, and plains. The people from the State of Maryland are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of good things."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God? You said there would be balance..."
[HI]God smiled, "Right next to Maryland is Washington DC I HAVE PUT ALL THE IDIOTS Over THERE."[/HI]
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Re: Drone Attacks completely stopped after Raymond Davis Issue - Did you notice that?
drone attacks meontarily have stopped but whats the benefit?the drones of drone attacks now your army id doing.
daily in mohmand agency etc pak airforce planes bomb houses killing many people...media hardly reports these news
some unfortunate pak pilots have been heard of raising sectarian slogans too its reported in a news!while they bomb tribal muslims
drone attacks meontarily have stopped but whats the benefit?the drones of drone attacks now your army id doing.
daily in mohmand agency etc pak airforce planes bomb houses killing many people...media hardly reports these news
some unfortunate pak pilots have been heard of raising sectarian slogans too its reported in a news!while they bomb tribal muslims
Re: Drone Attacks completely stopped after Raymond Davis Issue - Did you notice that?
dont do shirk...army is not the reason that we are intact
our army leadership is busy making money plus ranches in united states,so forget them
also just think...india captured 70 thousand pakistani army men from bangladesh...if these army guys had even one tenth the iman of taliban than they would have crushed indias mouth...imagine that just 10 thousand taliban are defeating united states...if 70 thousand pakistani soldiers had become bombers and attacked invading indian army than atleast half of bangladesh would have remained with pakistan.
pity that secular people have no bravery as they fight for money...while mujahideen fight for allah and so are not afraid of dying ,as after death they are promised eternal blessings from allah
dont do shirk...army is not the reason that we are intact
our army leadership is busy making money plus ranches in united states,so forget them
also just think...india captured 70 thousand pakistani army men from bangladesh...if these army guys had even one tenth the iman of taliban than they would have crushed indias mouth...imagine that just 10 thousand taliban are defeating united states...if 70 thousand pakistani soldiers had become bombers and attacked invading indian army than atleast half of bangladesh would have remained with pakistan.
pity that secular people have no bravery as they fight for money...while mujahideen fight for allah and so are not afraid of dying ,as after death they are promised eternal blessings from allah
Classified
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis links with lashkar e jhangvi
قابل احترام سنی بھائیوں کا نام لے کر انکی آڑ میں اپنی غلیظ ظاہر پرستی کی سوچ ظاہر نا کرو - اس بات پر سنی بھائی بھی متفق ہیں کے دہشت گردوں کا کوئی مذہب نہیں ہوتا اور کسی بھی طرح سے سپاہ صحابہ اور لشکر جھنگوی سنیوں کو ریپرزینٹ نہیں کرتی - محض چند سو دہشت گرد جو چھپتے چھپاتے پھر رہے ہوں پاک افواج سے ، جنکی سر پرستی براہ راست آل سود کے حرامی بھیڑیے کی شکل والے آل سود کے کتے کر رہے ہوں انکو سنیوں سے منسوب نہ کرو-
معصوم لوگوں کی آنکھوں میں دھول جھونکنے کی کوشش بھی نا کرو ، لوگ معصوم ضرور ہیں لیکن بیوقوف بلکل بھی نہیں ہیں - سپاہ صحابہ اور لشکر جھنگوی کے دہشت گردوں کا مسلسل ریکارڈ سب کو معلوم ہے جنہوں نے آج تک ایک بھی امریکن نہیں مارا بلکہ ہمیشہ یا تو شعیوں کی امام بارگاہوں ، جلوسوں میں بم دھماکے کیے ہیں یا پھر اولیا کرام کے مزاروں ، درگاہوں پر خود کش حملے کیے ہیں اور معصوم تصوف سے لگاو رکھنے والے سنیوں کو نشانہ بنایا ہے -
اور جن پاکستانی مجاہدین کو امریکن دشمن کہہ کر مظلوم بنانے کی بھونڈی کوشش کر رہے ہو ، قوم ان غلیظ دہشت گردوں کو تحریک طالبان پاکستان کے نام سے جانتی ہے جنکے پرخچے تک اڑا کر رکھ دیے ہیں پاک افواج نے ، جنکو جب صحیح سے چیک کیا گیا تو تمھارے ان مجاہدین کے "ختنے" تک نہیں ہوے تھے جنکے پاس سے بھارتی اسلحے کے ہونے کے نا قبل تردید ثبوت ملے ہیں اور شراب سے لیکر ہیروئن اور مصنوئی جنت دوزخ ، ان سب کرشموں سے پاکستانی قوم واقف ہے - لعنت ہے تم جیسے نیچ جھوٹے انسان پر ، بلکہ تمکو انسان کہنا بھی انسانیت کی توہین ہے ، تم اور تمھارے دہشت گرد دم توڑ رہے ہیں ، سسک سسک کر اپنے آل سعود کے ناجائز اباؤں سے جو چندے کی بھیک پر پلتے ہیں انکا دور کب کا ختم بھی ہو چکا ہے پاکستان میں لعنتی آدمی-
معصوم لوگوں کی آنکھوں میں دھول جھونکنے کی کوشش بھی نا کرو ، لوگ معصوم ضرور ہیں لیکن بیوقوف بلکل بھی نہیں ہیں - سپاہ صحابہ اور لشکر جھنگوی کے دہشت گردوں کا مسلسل ریکارڈ سب کو معلوم ہے جنہوں نے آج تک ایک بھی امریکن نہیں مارا بلکہ ہمیشہ یا تو شعیوں کی امام بارگاہوں ، جلوسوں میں بم دھماکے کیے ہیں یا پھر اولیا کرام کے مزاروں ، درگاہوں پر خود کش حملے کیے ہیں اور معصوم تصوف سے لگاو رکھنے والے سنیوں کو نشانہ بنایا ہے -
اور جن پاکستانی مجاہدین کو امریکن دشمن کہہ کر مظلوم بنانے کی بھونڈی کوشش کر رہے ہو ، قوم ان غلیظ دہشت گردوں کو تحریک طالبان پاکستان کے نام سے جانتی ہے جنکے پرخچے تک اڑا کر رکھ دیے ہیں پاک افواج نے ، جنکو جب صحیح سے چیک کیا گیا تو تمھارے ان مجاہدین کے "ختنے" تک نہیں ہوے تھے جنکے پاس سے بھارتی اسلحے کے ہونے کے نا قبل تردید ثبوت ملے ہیں اور شراب سے لیکر ہیروئن اور مصنوئی جنت دوزخ ، ان سب کرشموں سے پاکستانی قوم واقف ہے - لعنت ہے تم جیسے نیچ جھوٹے انسان پر ، بلکہ تمکو انسان کہنا بھی انسانیت کی توہین ہے ، تم اور تمھارے دہشت گرد دم توڑ رہے ہیں ، سسک سسک کر اپنے آل سعود کے ناجائز اباؤں سے جو چندے کی بھیک پر پلتے ہیں انکا دور کب کا ختم بھی ہو چکا ہے پاکستان میں لعنتی آدمی-
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Re: Drone Attacks completely stopped after Raymond Davis Issue - Did you notice that?
I was thinking about the same thing yesterday but wasnt sure whether the news channels r reporting it or not. If it is true that no drone attacks since Raymond has been in custody then the case needs to be prolonged by the lawyers using their age old tactics. I dont see the government showing any spine to stop the drones crossing our border.
I was thinking about the same thing yesterday but wasnt sure whether the news channels r reporting it or not. If it is true that no drone attacks since Raymond has been in custody then the case needs to be prolonged by the lawyers using their age old tactics. I dont see the government showing any spine to stop the drones crossing our border.
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
Pakistan is in a fix. And all because of a man whose diplomatic status is a mystery that has not been solved yet. The Raymond Davis case has landed both Pakistan and the US in the soup. Not only have the Americans postponed an important trilateral meeting that was supposed to take place in Washington between officials from Afghanistan, Pakistan and the US this month, they have also adopted a threatening posture vis--vis Pakistan. Foreign Office (FO) spokesman Abdul Basit said that the trilateral talks will be rescheduled in due course of time. It is important the trilateral process continues. We hope whenever held, (the talks) will yield maximum results for peace and stability. US State Department spokesman PJ Crowley also said the meeting will be rescheduled soon. This is obviously a pressure tactic by the US government, which is trying its best to get Davis free at any cost. On the other hand, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Dr Firdaus Ashiq Awan said that the government will let the independent judiciary decide the Raymond Davis case as it believed in the rule of law. Former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has apparently made his party members angry by alleging that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had pressurised him to sign a summary that gave diplomatic immunity to Raymond Davis. Dr Ashiq Awan questioned his stance and asked why he had not said anything about this when he was foreign minister. Former minister for water and power, Raja Pervez Ashraf, likened Mr Qureshi to (late) Farooq Leghari and said that he was working on the agenda of anti-PPP forces. Whatever the internal dynamics of the PPP may be, Mr Qureshis disclosure can become a bone of contention between the PPP government and its adversaries.
It is strange that neither the Foreign Office (FO) nor the government is willing to tell the truth about Raymond Daviss diplomatic status. The reason why the government is hesitant in committing itself to anything could be that it does not want to give the religious right any more fodder to further destabilise the political situation. The right-wing forces have only just given up on the blasphemy campaign after Prime Minister Gilanis assurances on several occasions that the blasphemy laws will not be changed. The Taliban have already threatened to kill any government official who facilitates the release of Mr Davis. One of the reasons the government now wants to hold an all-parties roundtable conference is to get out of the mess it has landed itself in after Raymond Davis was arrested. The present dispensation is actually reaping the fruits of General (retd) Pervez Musharrafs policies, who gave permission to the Americans to do as they please on our soil. The surreptitious and illegal presence of many CIA spooks and private security contractors is nothing new. It all began during Musharrafs regime. It is not the first time that such incidents have taken place in Pakistan even though Raymond Daviss one was a more serious one.
The US should understand that Pakistan is its frontline ally in the war on terror and not its enemy. Instead of going public with its rigid stance, the US should present the facts to the FO and if Mr Davis enjoys a diplomats status, he would obviously be set free. Being arrogant will not help the US, instead it will only increase the anti-American sentiment in Pakistan. As for the postponement of the trilateral meeting, the US is giving the Taliban a fresh lease of life, which could prove to be dangerous for the whole world. It is time to think and act rationally, both by the US and Pakistan. *
(http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\02\14\story_14-2-2011_pg3_1)
Pakistan is in a fix. And all because of a man whose diplomatic status is a mystery that has not been solved yet. The Raymond Davis case has landed both Pakistan and the US in the soup. Not only have the Americans postponed an important trilateral meeting that was supposed to take place in Washington between officials from Afghanistan, Pakistan and the US this month, they have also adopted a threatening posture vis--vis Pakistan. Foreign Office (FO) spokesman Abdul Basit said that the trilateral talks will be rescheduled in due course of time. It is important the trilateral process continues. We hope whenever held, (the talks) will yield maximum results for peace and stability. US State Department spokesman PJ Crowley also said the meeting will be rescheduled soon. This is obviously a pressure tactic by the US government, which is trying its best to get Davis free at any cost. On the other hand, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Dr Firdaus Ashiq Awan said that the government will let the independent judiciary decide the Raymond Davis case as it believed in the rule of law. Former foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has apparently made his party members angry by alleging that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had pressurised him to sign a summary that gave diplomatic immunity to Raymond Davis. Dr Ashiq Awan questioned his stance and asked why he had not said anything about this when he was foreign minister. Former minister for water and power, Raja Pervez Ashraf, likened Mr Qureshi to (late) Farooq Leghari and said that he was working on the agenda of anti-PPP forces. Whatever the internal dynamics of the PPP may be, Mr Qureshis disclosure can become a bone of contention between the PPP government and its adversaries.
It is strange that neither the Foreign Office (FO) nor the government is willing to tell the truth about Raymond Daviss diplomatic status. The reason why the government is hesitant in committing itself to anything could be that it does not want to give the religious right any more fodder to further destabilise the political situation. The right-wing forces have only just given up on the blasphemy campaign after Prime Minister Gilanis assurances on several occasions that the blasphemy laws will not be changed. The Taliban have already threatened to kill any government official who facilitates the release of Mr Davis. One of the reasons the government now wants to hold an all-parties roundtable conference is to get out of the mess it has landed itself in after Raymond Davis was arrested. The present dispensation is actually reaping the fruits of General (retd) Pervez Musharrafs policies, who gave permission to the Americans to do as they please on our soil. The surreptitious and illegal presence of many CIA spooks and private security contractors is nothing new. It all began during Musharrafs regime. It is not the first time that such incidents have taken place in Pakistan even though Raymond Daviss one was a more serious one.
The US should understand that Pakistan is its frontline ally in the war on terror and not its enemy. Instead of going public with its rigid stance, the US should present the facts to the FO and if Mr Davis enjoys a diplomats status, he would obviously be set free. Being arrogant will not help the US, instead it will only increase the anti-American sentiment in Pakistan. As for the postponement of the trilateral meeting, the US is giving the Taliban a fresh lease of life, which could prove to be dangerous for the whole world. It is time to think and act rationally, both by the US and Pakistan. *
(http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\02\14\story_14-2-2011_pg3_1)
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
This is tough time for Pakistan. Also this is the time for our leaders not to budge an inch form their positions.
Obama admin seems be total ignorant and selfish (no kidding eh?). The case in court, they know better govt cant intervene.
In the world every thing has to be the way Americans want them. Well hope PPP govt does a little of arm twisting and does not release the murderer
This is tough time for Pakistan. Also this is the time for our leaders not to budge an inch form their positions.
Obama admin seems be total ignorant and selfish (no kidding eh?). The case in court, they know better govt cant intervene.
In the world every thing has to be the way Americans want them. Well hope PPP govt does a little of arm twisting and does not release the murderer
Unicorn
Banned
Re: Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
The Raymond Davis case has landed both Pakistan and the US in the soup. This is an understatement US media has only reported this story very mildly wait until they pick up this story things will get very interesting. US and Pakistani foreign ministry has been caught with their pants down.
The Raymond Davis case has landed both Pakistan and the US in the soup. This is an understatement US media has only reported this story very mildly wait until they pick up this story things will get very interesting. US and Pakistani foreign ministry has been caught with their pants down.
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
It needs to be realized that it is not a simple case of a man whose status is controvercial. The very fact that US is ready to take this small apparently small matter to such a level speaks volumes of the serious ness of the nature of the issue involved. This matter is not simple and there must be a heck of a lot at stake for th US government to let this person be treid. God knows all what kind of Pandora's box is awaiting to be opened and what demons are lurking on the sides. The flip side of the matter could be that situation is now at a point where some targets need to be achived and this provides an excuse to let the script roll. Either case right thing should be done, no excuse like "Nareaya-e-zaroorat" to be applied. This could be an opportunity for us to let all know " Enough" what ever the consequences Allah will side with us if we side with truth and justice.Insha Allah.
It needs to be realized that it is not a simple case of a man whose status is controvercial. The very fact that US is ready to take this small apparently small matter to such a level speaks volumes of the serious ness of the nature of the issue involved. This matter is not simple and there must be a heck of a lot at stake for th US government to let this person be treid. God knows all what kind of Pandora's box is awaiting to be opened and what demons are lurking on the sides. The flip side of the matter could be that situation is now at a point where some targets need to be achived and this provides an excuse to let the script roll. Either case right thing should be done, no excuse like "Nareaya-e-zaroorat" to be applied. This could be an opportunity for us to let all know " Enough" what ever the consequences Allah will side with us if we side with truth and justice.Insha Allah.
Star Gazer
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
India has lost it pants several times and what happened? they rolled it right back up. So I suppose it is okay to experience that, after all what is sauce for goose is sauce for gander!
India has lost it pants several times and what happened? they rolled it right back up. So I suppose it is okay to experience that, after all what is sauce for goose is sauce for gander!
Unicorn
Banned
Re: Pakistan US Relations In A Fix ?
Yes Mr. Gazer India has lost its pants against China and thats about the only time don't know how several got into your statement. I guess you read lot of history by Pakistani scholars or you are just lost in space.
Yes Mr. Gazer India has lost its pants against China and thats about the only time don't know how several got into your statement. I guess you read lot of history by Pakistani scholars or you are just lost in space.
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Raymond Davis freed by Govt. then Damadam Mast Qalander on pakistani streets, move to US consulates.
US always tries to bowe Pakistani heads down. They are respectless Community of people existing on Earth. They neither respect Human Life nor their rights. Allah has made defeats and unsuccess to their fate. They lost all wars untill now having best technologies. They also will loose this war against Pakistani nation.
Before deciding steps against US we must get Rid of People like Fouzia Wahab and allied political community. These baste_eds and bitch_s are Anti muslim alliance.
We are sure that this case Raymond will give us freedom from US and from pakistani Baste_ed allies.
Millions march will welcome soon on streets.
If Raymond freed that will mean to pakistani's that every American in Pakistan is Raymond Davis.
US always tries to bowe Pakistani heads down. They are respectless Community of people existing on Earth. They neither respect Human Life nor their rights. Allah has made defeats and unsuccess to their fate. They lost all wars untill now having best technologies. They also will loose this war against Pakistani nation.
Before deciding steps against US we must get Rid of People like Fouzia Wahab and allied political community. These baste_eds and bitch_s are Anti muslim alliance.
We are sure that this case Raymond will give us freedom from US and from pakistani Baste_ed allies.
Millions march will welcome soon on streets.
If Raymond freed that will mean to pakistani's that every American in Pakistan is Raymond Davis.
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