Kashif Rafiq
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so you are comparing British time to now. we were colonized at that time. we were slave of British army at that time. now pak army is slave of public. no comparison. kisi dunya ki army istrh business ni krti jistrh hmari krti hy. fouj ka kam defense krna hy na ki cement aur fertilizer banana.Cantonments, historically and around the world, include residential area of the forces with all business. Residential amenities and civic services. All old British cantonments have "RA Bazaars"
Is court going to shut those bazaars.
Don't get why court is commenting on a non-issue for cheap popularity. It should focus only if something is against the approved plan or bye-law.
Further court has a limited jurisdiction on military lands and in all matters of defense. This protection is constitutional with very valid reasons. In the matters of defense even administration has limited powers.
Courts should be diligent when judges make comments about such constitutional issues but many judges play for cheap popularity.
Please don't play super wise! Your emotional appeal sounds outright stupid. Leave lecturing me about freedom and history.so you are comparing British time to now. we were colonized at that time. we were slave of British army at that time. now pak army is slave of public. no comparison. kisi dunya ki army istrh business ni krti jistrh hmari krti hy. fouj ka kam defense krna hy na ki cement aur fertilizer banana.
just see the above list i shared, and you will notice how many businesses are related to defense. our army is damn corrupt no doubt. our army deals our public just like British army used to treat.Please don't play super wise! Your emotional appeal sounds outright stupid. Leave lecturing me about freedom and history.
Cantonment from the beginning of time and around the world today are for residential and militaristic activities of the forces. Residential districts include commercial and civic services. The question of commercial activity that judges (or perhaps just the reporter) have raised is meaningless and without content.
If there is a volition of a approved plan or a bye-law or a law, or there is a volition of cantonment charter (which are approved laws) then thencourt may interfere within a limited jurisdiction.
Historically most of large commercial centers/cities were developed within or around cantonments.
Your whole tantrum can be summed up like this "If anyone talks about the sins of my holy cow Army , i would bring in all kind of rubbish against him to divert the discussion"Stay orders, choron ko zamanatein, yeh adliya kay maqasid hain? Millions of cases lie pending in your courts, and you have the gall to call out other institutions? Go do your job and resolve cases in your damn courts. Do your own damn job, and look at your own damn emoluments and benefits before talking about others.
Judiciary is a cesspool. These judges evolve from the same crooked lawyers that we see rampaging and pillaging on streets.
Nope ..it's not a tantrum. Point is simple. Every institution needs to self correct. Only thing we see in Pakistan is finger pointing at others.Your whole tantrum can be summed up like this "If anyone talks about the sins of my holy cow Army , i would bring in all kind of rubbish against him to divert the discussion"
I don't need to see the list. I can write a larger list and we have discussed these issues for zillions of times in and out.just see the above list i shared, and you will notice how many businesses are related to defense. our army is damn corrupt no doubt. our army deals our public just like British army used to treat.
Gheee !!! I was wonder where have you been . And then as soon as something criticizing Boots is posted and here you are right in front of all tiptoeing armed robbers. Its amazing how you jump right in to defend the most corrupt army generals' brain child. A MIC ..I don't need to see the list. I can write a larger list and we have discussed these issues for zillions of times in and out.
All above businesses are not related to defense but are part of various welfare organizations,
Forces welfare trust have several reasons and functions.. That is a different topic altogether. By the way - the above list is not much Army Welfare Trust is many fold larger
Ther are some peace-time businesses that forces (around the world) indulge in with genuine reasons. That relates to ensure food supplies, production and storage. agri-farms or incorporated food supply chain. Food. storage and commodity supply are essential part of defense and forces do rely upon markets for such commodities. Further forces maintain an apt engineering capacity and organization to be used in time of war and beyond. Forces do not rely upon civilian engineering organizations.
The judges have raised the question of services/businesses in the cantonments which are residential as well. There will be commercial activity of cantonments. What happens in cantonments is a different issue.