Hameed Gul & Imran Khan tried to use me to overthrow Benazir's Government, alleges Edhi

[shomyalgul]

edhi jealous from imran khannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[GeoG]

بہت خوب متحدہ کو عمران کی ضرورت نہیں ہے. خواب و کھیل کی دنیا سےباہر آؤ . بچپن کی ایک نظم یاد آ گئے.
اٹھو بیٹا آنکھیں کھولو
بستر چھوڑو اور منہ دھو لو.
اتنی دیر تک سونا ٹھیک نہیں ہے
وقت کا کھونا تھیں نہیں ہے.
عملی کام کرو آزاد کشمیر کا میدان تو چھوڑ کر پھر سے بھاگ گئے ہو اور جو امیدیں لگا رہی ہیں اسٹبلشمنٹ کے وعدوں پر وہ دھری کی دھری رہ جائیں گی نوے فیصد عمران کے حمایتیوں کا نہ تو ووٹ ہے اور جنکا ووٹ ہے وہ کنیڈا میں بیٹھے سوشل کھا رہے ہیں. اور جنکو حرام کی خانے کی عادت لگی ہو وہ کسی کے ساتھ کیا مخلص ہونگے​

Tum Nay Azad Kashmir Say Kitnay Vote Liyay Hain?

 

[GeoG]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Giving interview to BBC URDU at that time, he said,
I will be murdered and blame will be given to MQM.

At that time, and still is in practice, for every crime, blame goes to MQM.

Is that an admission that Every community in the country hates you....

 

[Jury]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Is that an admission that Every community in the country hates you....

At that time, that was being practiced by rulers.
Example is, Hakeem Saeed Murder allegation, Editor Takbeer Murder allegation, etc.

 

[GeoG]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

At that time, that was being practiced by rulers.
Example is, Hakeem Saeed Murder allegation, Editor Takbeer Murder allegation, etc.

Soon PPP will be exposing you for taking decision from courts with collaboration with the prosecution
Just wait and see, your time is fast approaching you....

 

[Jury]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Soon PPP will be exposing you for taking decision from courts with collaboration with the prosecution
Just wait and see, your time is fast approaching you....

They have been trying that.

 

[elipst]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

[MENTION=14028]elipst[/MENTION]

You have showed racist mentality in a post in which you were supposed to prove that you are not a racist.

What should matter to you as a Pakistani and as a cricketing fan is that Imran Khan made Pakistani team strong and led it to glory - not how many Karachi players were in there. The fact that Pakistani team became strong and lifted the only world cup in its history under Imran, shows that Imran was doing his job on merit.

It is YOU who want Imran to have inducted people based on their ethnicity and city. What a stupid wish!

To me it doesn't matter if a player from my city is in the team or not, but that the team is performing good or not.


Change your racist mentality. Imran is not racist in the least!

The comment "Kala" "goara" was never made. Imran simply said that since Babar Ghouri looked like an African, all the African children must be his, since he had implied that Imran Khan is the father of a child who looked like Imran. (It doesn't matter if that child was really Imran's, but the point was well made about looks).

And show me any hypocrisy on Imran's part or in his politics.

Hehe... Karachi is not the city of one ethnicity, it is the city of every ethnic group that calls it home, from Punjabis, Hazarawals, to Brohi and ethnic Hazaras all live here. If I said players from Karachi were ignored it means players from all ethnicities not just one. You need to understand that.

Well if Imran isnt racist, he needs to prove it, by not just speaking for one city or province but for all.

 

[YAHYA87]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

What "dikhawa" you are talking about?

This "dikhawa" has created a SKMH, which is the only hospital of its kind in the whole of Pakistan.

Don't try to belittle Imran's contribution - it only shows the mentality of MQM.

I know why you support Edhi - it is because he is a muhajir. We support Edhi because he is a Pakistani.

Edhi also knows full well to not put his life on the line and he doesn't against MQM - which is another reason you like Edhi.

Your praise for him is unrelated to his social contribution. If you really liked his contributions, then you would also support men who have contributed in similar ways - like Imran Khan. But you have shown your true colors.

And those who accuse Imran of working with agencies, say that MQM is the illegitimate child of agencies to begin with. Do you agree with them? They accuse Imran of working secretly with MQM.

Of course Imran has nothing to do with agencies, as he does not have to attain power for money or to hide his corruption.

I am talking about Dikhawa in the sense of Media Campaigns and Donars even asking media to ADVERTISE his Social Contributions all around Pakistan and Abroad....That is DIKHAWA.....On the other hand Edhi didnt Need to do all that cause his CONTRIBUTIONS are seen by People themselves Instead of Spending Money on Media Campaign or designing something like Joint Venture of "MKRF and Imran Khan ki Pukar".....

If you think Muhajir is any reason to support someone then still so many JI leaders are Muhajirs as well so should I started Supporting them to??????Just a short RECAP of Imran Khan's and Edhi's History would PROVE why I support Edhi and why I dont support Imran Khan.....Edhi have always been STRAIGHT FORWARD Social Worker Taking no Benefits of Situation or from Society while Imran Khan's Past itself is full of Controversy and he USED his Social Work to gain his position in Politics.....He was attached with so many Dirty Games even had Distributed Sweets among people after Musharraf Declared martial Law and Dismissed Nawaz Sharif's Govt.....Moving Back further to his Cricketing Career you know what he was Famous for and for what he was known for as well so its better to stop over here.....

Comparing their Characters provide more then enough proof of who is who and who is what......Since Imran Khan Internet Based Fan Club members like you have already made their mind that Imran Khan is BORN PERFECT right and others who oppose him or who speaks against him have problems so no wonder you would accuse me of Ethnic reason to like Edhi and dislike Imran Khan....Sure Edhi's social Network does have many FLAWS but these Flaws but comparing to their OPERATIONS that Edhi Foundation manages these Flaws are non existent cause he is serving without any PERSONAL INTEREST or BENEFITS on the other hand Imran Khan is using his Social Worker Image to become Influential person in Pakistan instead of serving People.....With such Intentions its Laud and Clear that their is no comparison of Edhi and Imran Khan cause Edhi wants to SERVE PEOPLE from his Contributions while Imran Khan wants to become POWER OR INFLUENTIAL PERSON from his Contributions......

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Oh, I'll help you. With the sort of narrow mindedness you have, you can do no better than to accuse Imran of committing Zinnaa, right?

My question is - how does it affect you? These sins are between man and God, you have no right to interfere in people's personal matters.

He has said repeatedly he is not an angel and has committed mistakes and has sought to improve himself.

But to me, what really matters is if a person has committed looting, murder or other criminal activities involving people's suffering.

His "daman" is quite clear of that. Couple that with his great charity work, and he is a pride of Pakistan.

Raise yourself above dirty thinking.

واہ بہت خوب
آپ کی بات پر یہ محاوره صادق آتا ہے
ستر چوہے کھا کر بلّا حج کو چلا.

تیری معصومیت پر عش عش کرنے کو جی کھاتا ہے پر کیا کروں تیرے لیڈر کا کردار یاد آ جاتا ہے
یاد ماضی عذاب ہے یا رب

ایک مصرع خصوصی آپ کے لئے

نہ دامن پہ کوئی چھینٹ نہ خنجر پہ کوئی داغ
تم قتل کرو ہو کے کرامات کرو ہو

آپ کے لیڈر کی تو یہ بات ہے
ساقی تیری محفل میں ہم جام اٹھا لیں گے.
کعبے میں جائیں گے تو زم زم سے نہ لیں گے.

ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا

اشارتا بہت کچھ ہے اس سب میں سمجھ تو گئے ہو گے میں کیا کہنا چاہا رہا ہوں کھل کر لکھ نہیں سکتا ورنہ منہ بسورتے ہوے ایڈمن کی بارگاہ میں فریاد لے کر پوھنچ جاؤ گے.

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Soon PPP will be exposing you for taking decision from courts with collaboration with the prosecution
Just wait and see, your time is fast approaching you....

پیوستہ رہ شجر سے امید بہار رکھ.

 

[Scorpion]

Is Edhi ki auqat kia ka Hameed Gul is sa madad mangay . . . . . .. .

 

[Just_one]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Well, I used the word racist broadly.

Again - it should not matter to you if Imran has inducted Karachi players or not. What should matter to you is whether Pakistani team performed well under Imran or not.

What do you want? A well-performing Pakistani team, or a team filled with Karachi players?

You advocating city-centric racism.

Imran DOES NOT have to prove he is not a racist. His credibility is already established. And you are not listening to him. He has been talking about the whole country and not any ethnicity.

Show me where he talked about one ethnicity?

Hehe... Karachi is not the city of one ethnicity, it is the city of every ethnic group that calls it home, from Punjabis, Hazarawals, to Brohi and ethnic Hazaras all live here. If I said players from Karachi were ignored it means players from all ethnicities not just one. You need to understand that.

Well if Imran isnt racist, he needs to prove it, by not just speaking for one city or province but for all.

 

[Just_one]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

I am talking about Dikhawa in the sense of Media Campaigns and Donars even asking media to ADVERTISE his Social Contributions all around Pakistan and Abroad....That is DIKHAWA.

Imran campaigns for the donations because these donations are used to help the POOR people. Money does not grow on trees. Compaigns are needed for this purpose. They are not for Dikhawa.

Acha kam sar char kar bolta hai. You don't need dikhawa for it.

....On the other hand Edhi didnt Need to do all that cause his CONTRIBUTIONS are seen by People themselves Instead of Spending Money on Media Campaign or designing something like Joint Venture of "MKRF and Imran Khan ki Pukar".....

And Imran's CONTRIBUTIONS are staring in your face in SKMH, his flood relief efforts (For which he has own awards) and NAMAL university. DUE TO this fact, people contribute to Imran's cause.

Your negative mindedness is condemnable! By the same token. Edhi is doing charity for name, because, after all, you know Edhi has done a lot, and his name "Edhi foundation" is plastered all over whatever ventures he takes.

What a negative mentality!

If you think Muhajir is any reason to support someone then still so many JI leaders are Muhajirs as well so should I started Supporting them to??????

That maybe because JI Muhajir leaders talk about all ethnicity and do not hold muhajir centric world view, while your favorite MQM, does the opposite, while Edhi is silent on it.

Just a short RECAP of Imran Khan's and Edhi's History would PROVE why I support Edhi and why I dont support Imran Khan

Oh, come on! Tell me.

....Edhi have always been STRAIGHT FORWARD Social Worker Taking no Benefits of Situation or from Society while Imran Khan's Past itself is full of Controversy and he USED his Social Work to gain his position in Politics

Tell me about some "controversies" involving Imran Khan? Come on. Let's see your mentality.

Politics if for SERVICE of people, or at least that is what Imran is practicing politics for. Politics is the NEXT step to welfare work. Imran is not using "charity" for politics, he is EXTENDING his service to people by being in politics.

What do you think about KKF of MQM? Is that also publicity stunt, given your mentality?

....He was attached with so many Dirty Games even had Distributed Sweets among people after Musharraf Declared martial Law and Dismissed Nawaz Sharif's Govt..

What nonsense. However, what's the reason behind your recent love for PMLN? Getting kicked in the back by PPP?

And do you know what Edhi has said about Musharraf? He praised Musharraf.

And what about your shameless party? MQM? It sat in the dictator's lap during his entire tenure as president.

...Moving Back further to his Cricketing Career you know what he was Famous for and for what he was known for as well so its better to stop over here.....

Oh yes, Imran was famous for being the fastest bowler, famous for being the one of the best captains, famous as a "cornered tiger", famous for wining the world cup for Pakistan...should I go on?

Anything personal in his life is NONE of your business. Did IMran commit corruption? Did he steal money? Did he kill anybody? What is your damn problem?

Comparing their Characters provide more then enough proof of who is who and who is what.

Remember, Imran falls among the greats of Pakistan. And it is due to his character that he gave Pakistan so much to be proud of, while narrow minded people belonging to dirty parties take issues with private matters. Shame on you.

Edhi's wife also ran away, do you know why?

.....Since Imran Khan Internet Based Fan Club members like you have already made their mind that Imran Khan is BORN PERFECT right and others who oppose him or who speaks against him have problems so no wonder you would accuse me of Ethnic reason to like Edhi and dislike Imran Khan....Sure Edhi's social Network does have many FLAWS but these Flaws but comparing to their OPERATIONS that Edhi Foundation manages these Flaws are non existent cause he is serving without any PERSONAL INTEREST or BENEFITS on the other hand Imran Khan is using his Social Worker Image to become Influential person in Pakistan instead of serving People.....With such Intentions its Laud and Clear that their is no comparison of Edhi and Imran Khan cause Edhi wants to SERVE PEOPLE from his Contributions while Imran Khan wants to become POWER OR INFLUENTIAL PERSON from his Contributions......

How do you know that Edhi is contributing for the people sincerely while Imran is contributing to increase his power? Can you know the state of people's mind? Why would Imran want to increase his power? What does he not have in life? Respect, fame, money, he has everything. Why does he want power? Think about it.. He wants power to SERVE PEOPLE. HE wants to correct this country.

He is involved in a bigger struggle than Edhi is capable of. That's the bitter truth and swallow it now.

 

[fido82]

Khan has exposed by Edhi. What a shame.

 

[Just_one]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

[MENTION=7753]ALI ARYAN[/MENTION], Shahid teri urdu mein hi khabar leni pare gi. To kon se choye khaye hain Imran Khan ne? Zara batao. Tumhari party, MQM, ek bhattakhor Jamat hai jispe qatal ke hazaroN muqadmein hain. Ab agar tum morality ki baat karo to use kehte hain "900 Chohay kha ke billi Haj ko chali". Pata chala? Kisi ki zaata zindagi mein jhankne se pehle apne gareban mein jhaank. Imran ki zaati zindagi tujhe kis tarahN affect karti hai? Kya masla hai tera, zara khul kar bayan kar to mein us ka shahid koi hal tajveez kar don? Jese mein ne MQM ke ek aur saathi se kaha hai, ke IMran ne na to chori ki hai or na hi loot mar, aur na hi kisi ka qatal. Wo ek saaf, imandar aadmi hai. Agar tere sooch personal matters se uth nahi sakti to ye tere kharabi hai. Imran ki personality ke positives nahi dekh sakta aur us ke zaati negatives par teri gheri nazar hai - teri tang nazari ki mein daad deta hon. Ek Bhatta kohr jamat ka karkun hi itna tang nazar ho sakta hai. Zara us maa se ja ke keh jis a bacha marte marte bacha ho SKMH se ilaj karwa ke, ke IMran immoral hai. Tere saari morality usi waqt nikal jaye gi.

واہ بہت خوب
آپ کی بات پر یہ محاوره صادق آتا ہے
ستر چوہے کھا کر بلّا حج کو چلا.

تیری معصومیت پر عش عش کرنے کو جی کھاتا ہے پر کیا کروں تیرے لیڈر کا کردار یاد آ جاتا ہے
یاد ماضی عذاب ہے یا رب

ایک مصرع خصوصی آپ کے لئے

نہ دامن پہ کوئی چھینٹ نہ خنجر پہ کوئی داغ
تم قتل کرو ہو کے کرامات کرو ہو

آپ کے لیڈر کی تو یہ بات ہے
ساقی تیری محفل میں ہم جام اٹھا لیں گے.
کعبے میں جائیں گے تو زم زم سے نہ لیں گے.

ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا ہا

اشارتا بہت کچھ ہے اس سب میں سمجھ تو گئے ہو گے میں کیا کہنا چاہا رہا ہوں کھل کر لکھ نہیں سکتا ورنہ منہ بسورتے ہوے ایڈمن کی بارگاہ میں فریاد لے کر پوھنچ جاؤ گے.

 

[elipst]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

Well, I used the word racist broadly.

Again - it should not matter to you if Imran has inducted Karachi players or not. What should matter to you is whether Pakistani team performed well under Imran or not.

What do you want? A well-performing Pakistani team, or a team filled with Karachi players?

You advocating city-centric racism.

Imran DOES NOT have to prove he is not a racist. His credibility is already established. And you are not listening to him. He has been talking about the whole country and not any ethnicity.

Show me where he talked about one ethnicity?

No I want good players to be given a fair chance, an equal chance. Not like we have now, a monopoly of players from one city. Same thing we had Imran's time. Do I need to go into details on how badly Miandad was treated? Or how many promising young players from all over Pakistan, not just Karachi were overlooked because they wernt the right ethicity? Dont argue it does not matter as Pakistan won, trust me it does matter, because the seeds Imran sow all that time back are still bearing fruit, when now we see even more extreme forms of racism. Players from only one city now play cricket for Pakistan.

Now if that wasnt enough, he revealed the true extent of his xenophobia was revealed when he made those infamous remarks on Babar Ghauri... Now couldnt he find anything else on Babar Ghauri besides his skin colour?? Now you know in our society we suffer from 'kala-gora syndrome' when someone with a clear complexion is considered better looking than one with a darker one. What was even more disturbing was the applause that comment got. Disgraceful, even living in a multi cultural place like London does not change these people's mentality and you call Karachites 'racist'. HA!

I wonder if Imran made the same comments to Clive Lloyd or Viv Richards? And is that way the 'great' Khan chose to marry a white British woman instead of an 'African looking' Pakistani woman?

In spite of all I said the main reason I dislike Imran is not because of his inherent racism, no nearly all Pakistanis are racist, we are born with it. But you dont expect these words from the leader and founder of a party. Nearly all of his supporters consider him to be greater than a normal Pakistani, looks and character wise, but the bitter truth is he is no better than the rest of us...

 

[Just_one]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

I will go logically through your post and will expose your contradiction.

No I want good players to be given a fair chance, an equal chance.

And it should not matter from which city a player belongs, right? You want players from Karachi, you by definition don't want to give fair chance.

There are only 15 players in the squad, but there are much more than 15 cities in Pakistan. So it is quite likely that many cities will not have players that belong to them at a given time.

Imran's world-cup wining team showed that it was a team consisting of "good players".

Not like we have now, a monopoly of players from one city.

I don't know much about cricket but you are completely wrong. Afridi is form Karachi, Misbah from Mianwali, and as recently, Younis Khan was from Peshawar, etc.

Same thing we had Imran's time.

This also sounds foolish just like your previous statement.

Again don't bring cities into it. Don't practice this narrow mindedness.

Do I need to go into details on how badly Miandad was treated?

Go ahead. He was not treated bad at all. In fact, he flourished only under Imran's captaincy, and after Imran left, his career went downhill.

Or how many promising young players from all over Pakistan, not just Karachi were overlooked because they wernt the right ethicity?

Baseless allegation. Provide proof.

Dont argue it does not matter as Pakistan won, trust me it does matter, because the seeds Imran sow all that time back are still bearing fruit, when now we see even more extreme forms of racism. Players from only one city now play cricket for Pakistan.

Nonsense. Such seeds were never sown, but your racist mentality is making you think that. Now you have moved on to "the right ethnicity", but before you said you were simply talking about Karachi as a city, and not as an ethnicity. Where you stand?

Today's crappy team and its management is none of Imran's business. Imran has repeatedly said that as long as there is no democracy in the cricket board, things will go from bad to worse.

Now if that wasnt enough, he revealed the true extent of his xenophobia was revealed when he made those infamous remarks on Babar Ghauri... Now couldnt he find anything else on Babar Ghauri besides his skin colour??

You are again refusing to understand. Babar Ghouri argued that a certain girl was Imran's daughter because she looked like Imran. Imran replied to it in a gathering by joking that since Babar Ghouri looks like an African, all African children must be his.

It was not about his skin colors. It was his own argument turned on him.

Now you know in our society we suffer from 'kala-gora syndrome' when someone with a clear complexion is considered better looking than one with a darker one. What was even more disturbing was the applause that comment got. Disgraceful, even living in a multi cultural place like London does not change these people's mentality and you call Karachites 'racist'.

Don't misrepresent my views. Karachities and MQMers are NOT synonymous. I call MQM a racist party which it is. It was after all a Muhajir Qaumi Movement.

I am a young person. My opinion about MQM is only shaped after reading these blogs in which I see people like you show racist mentality. You are mild compared to some other, but all in all, you harbor mindset which is ethnicity centric. I can understand that Muhajir were mistreated and this led to their victimization feelings. However, enough is enough and move on. MQM is a party which feeds these ethnic grievances which is completely wrong.

I wonder if Imran made the same comments to Clive Lloyd or Viv Richards?

He would have if Clive Lloyed or Viv Richards were as disgraceful as Babar Ghouri to attack Imran personally.

And is that way the 'great' Khan chose to marry a white British woman instead of an 'African looking' Pakistani woman?

There are many western looking Pakistani woman. So your logic falls flat.

And don't interfere in people's personal preference. He might simply have fallen in love with Jamima.

In spite of all I said the main reason I dislike Imran is not because of his inherent racism, no nearly all Pakistanis are racist, we are born with it.

Imran is not racist. He is only human and can err, but certainly, you have shown nothing that shows he is racist in the least. In SKMH, skin color is not the criteria to get treated, for example.

But you dont expect these words from the leader and founder of a party.

He is the only leader and founder of a party who has no corruption or murder or any kind of criminal case against him. He is the only honest and visionary leader. Your objections have been refuted.

And to satisfy you, one last thing needs mention. Imran's mother side is Muhajir.

Nearly all of his supporters consider him to be greater than a normal Pakistani, looks and character wise, but the bitter truth is he is no better than the rest of us...

I don't know how to respond, but his contribution are bigger than mine or yours. We need to emulate such a person, rather than put him down. We also need to emulate people like Edhi and other greats.

Never, for the life of me, muhajir, non-muhajir divide ever came in my mind or was ever mentioned by anyone. Maybe it is different in Karachi. But you need broad mindedness to tackle this issue.

Don't get defensive. MQM is NOT = Muhajir. MQM is NOT = Karachites.

My statements against MQM and its supporters are NOT = statements against Karachites.

 

[usm100]

Ab to thori sharam kha loo yaar. Itna shareef admi na bhe bata dia akhir kaar imran ki asliyaat. aor kia bach gaya hai

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

@ALI ARYAN , Shahid teri urdu mein hi khabar leni pare gi. To kon se choye khaye hain Imran Khan ne? Zara batao. Tumhari party, MQM, ek bhattakhor Jamat hai jispe qatal ke hazaroN muqadmein hain. Ab agar tum morality ki baat karo to use kehte hain "900 Chohay kha ke billi Haj ko chali". Pata chala? Kisi ki zaata zindagi mein jhankne se pehle apne gareban mein jhaank. Imran ki zaati zindagi tujhe kis tarahN affect karti hai? Kya masla hai tera, zara khul kar bayan kar to mein us ka shahid koi hal tajveez kar don? Jese mein ne MQM ke ek aur saathi se kaha hai, ke IMran ne na to chori ki hai or na hi loot mar, aur na hi kisi ka qatal. Wo ek saaf, imandar aadmi hai. Agar tere sooch personal matters se uth nahi sakti to ye tere kharabi hai. Imran ki personality ke positives nahi dekh sakta aur us ke zaati negatives par teri gheri nazar hai - teri tang nazari ki mein daad deta hon. Ek Bhatta kohr jamat ka karkun hi itna tang nazar ho sakta hai. Zara us maa se ja ke keh jis a bacha marte marte bacha ho SKMH se ilaj karwa ke, ke IMran immoral hai. Tere saari morality usi waqt nikal jaye gi.

آ گیا اوقات پر پوھنچ گیا تو ترتراک پر یہی اصلیت ہے اس انصاف پسندی کےخول کے پیچھے چھپیہے گندی زنا سے بھرپور زندگی جیسا زانی لیڈر ویسے ہی اسکے سپورٹر متحدہ کے خلاف چاہے ہزار مقدمے ہوں وہ اس بات کا جواب نہیں ہیں اور لیکن نا جائز بچی کا باپ ملک کی باگ ڈور سمنبھلنے کے درپے ہو تو سوال تو اے گا کونسی ذاتی زندگی اب یہ سیاست کے میدان میں ہے اور ہر سوال کا جواب دینا ہو گا کل کو پھر زنا کر کے بول دے گا میری ذاتی زندگی ہے پھر کیا ہو گا . .

جسکا ماضی ٹھیک نہیں اس کا حال اور مستقبل کیا ٹھیک ہو گا

اور ویسے بھی کہتے ہیں چورچوری سے جائے پر ہیرا پھیری سے نہ جائے.

 

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Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

There are only 15 players in the squad, but there are much more than 15 cities in Pakistan. So it is quite likely that many cities will not have players that belong to them at a given time.

Imran's world-cup wining team showed that it was a team consisting of "good players".

I dont understand why still good players are ignored for being not from a certain province. No matter if you keep denying it, that is true.

I don't know much about cricket but you are completely wrong. Afridi is form Karachi, Misbah from Mianwali, and as recently, Younis Khan was from Peshawar, etc.

And just how was Younis treated? He was forced out by the same group. Are you new here? Do you not know this? Same case with Afridi.

Again don't bring cities into it. Don't practice this narrow mindedness.

You were the one who asked me to give you proof of Imran's racism. Truth is bitter.

Go ahead. He was not treated bad at all. In fact, he flourished only under Imran's captaincy, and after Imran left, his career went downhill.

Go read Miandad's book man

Baseless allegation. Provide proof.

I dont really see any point of that since you wont know cricketers back then.

Nonsense. Such seeds were never sown, but your racist mentality is making you think that. Now you have moved on to "the right ethnicity", but before you said you were simply talking about Karachi as a city, and not as an ethnicity. Where you stand?

Hehe... Amusing you think world is all happy and nice and there is no racism in Pakistan. If you look at teams from Karachi they are multi ethnic, my apologies if my arguments took an ethnic colour.

You are again refusing to understand. Babar Ghouri argued that a certain girl was Imran's daughter because she looked like Imran. Imran replied to it in a gathering by joking that since Babar Ghouri looks like an African, all African children must be his.

If you want to consider his xenophobia as a joke, well its up to you. Babar Ghauri should never have said what he did but to see Imran respond the way he did was shocking.

Im not defending Babar Ghauri here but your insistence on defending Imran shows the extent of your xenophobia as well

Don't misrepresent my views. Karachities and MQMers are NOT synonymous. I call MQM a racist party which it is. It was after all a Muhajir Qaumi Movement.

I am a young person. My opinion about MQM is only shaped after reading these blogs in which I see people like you show racist mentality. You are mild compared to some other, but all in all, you harbor mindset which is ethnicity centric. I can understand that Muhajir were mistreated and this led to their victimization feelings. However, enough is enough and move on. MQM is a party which feeds these ethnic grievances which is completely wrong.

NO Karachiites and MQM are not synonymous though many disagree with that in Karachi. The saying goes 'if they dont care about us, why should we listen to them?'. People in Karachi have a lot of grievances on the way they have been treated by the state since the infamous quota system. I could go on and on. When etnicity is the thought grinded into you from day one. You need to look at what the establishment has done to Karachi before you start judging.


Well that makes two of us. My opinions on PTI and its supporters were shaped by coming on this forum. When one PTI member put forward the idea that all Urdu speaking be rounded up and put in concentration camps was when i joined this forum, december 2010. That was not the only time that racism has occurred from PTI memebers, it still continues. I was never a hardcore supporter of MQM before i started reading this forum.

We could both accuse each other of racism all day or I should say week long or we could have some constructive discussion

No MQM is a party that raises its voice on all grievances whether they be ethnic or any other. However they have moved on from ethnic politics and should be commended for that

Imran is not racist. He is only human and can err, but certainly, you have shown nothing that shows he is racist in the least. In SKMH, skin color is not the criteria to get treated, for example.



He is the only leader and founder of a party who has no corruption or murder or any kind of criminal case against him. He is the only honest and visionary leader. Your objections have been refuted.

Ah well you are right about SKMH, though I have never been there I have heard great stories.

See in Karachi, if you have a problem that cant be solved, not all of us have contacts in high places, you go to MQM and your work gets done

And to satisfy you, one last thing needs mention. Imran's mother side is Muhajir.

I dont care about that, never have. My reason for supporting MQM is its stance on different issues NOT ethnicity.

Never, for the life of me, muhajir, non-muhajir divide ever came in my mind or was ever mentioned by anyone. Maybe it is different in Karachi. But you need broad mindedness to tackle this issue.

Don't get defensive. MQM is NOT = Muhajir. MQM is NOT = Karachites.

My statements against MQM and its supporters are NOT = statements against Karachites.

Well it exists my friend. Maybe you dont see it but it does. We had to live through it in the 90s, I was young then but I remember. It wasnt just against MQM then.

Thankfully, Allah ka shukar hai, things are much better now, everyone gets on well, feelings arent so high as they were once before. Hopefully things will improve, it takes time to heal wounds