Bret Hawk
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Last recorded Dua of Dr. Israr
Bhai Hans I usually admire your sense of objectivity, factual argumentation coated with the layers of brevity and sensibility. But I think by terming the great Dr Israr as clown you’ve seriously undermined your objective mindset and I’ve taken a great offense by that repulsive remark of yours. Brother believe me when it comes to difference of opinion despite of immense respect for Dr Israr Marhoom o Maghfoor, I do had some differences as well on some of his thoughts and views in the past (which I do hold some of them till now) and its normal for one to have that margin of liberty to formulate a dissenting and differing opinion on a given subject matter.
In the last section of your post, which I’ve highlighted as well, if I’m not wrong in decoding your hidden message in those lines is that because of his offensive and blunt reasoning against the criminals of Almighty from the House of Israel which in return has resulted (In line with the hard-line rhetoric of many other Muslim clerics of current uni-polar world) in the ruthless backlash from them over the decades against the Muslim states scattered and disunited around the world, who (Israelis) unfortunately also hold the reins of extreme power and influence in Western Europe and Northern American territories in current scenario. Correct me if I’m wrong to interpret this reasoning of yours.
As far as this misconception of declaring himself as a Khalifa of his Caliphate movement and organizations in Pakistan is concerned then I think it’s totally baseless and misconstrued misconception formed by you in this regard as he always maintained himself during his lifespan that he was nothing more than an ordinary worker for the establishment of a Khilafat system in Pakistan in perfect reflection and footings of a perfectly constituted Caliphate (Divine Vice-regency) of the rightly guided first four companions of the great Prophet pbuh after his demise from this world in 632 C.E.
Bhai, reason for sending the same matter to you personally was to make sure that you don't miss the opportunity of not be replied for your enlighten statement.
Now that you have opened topic about Righteous Caliph, Tell me why did Dr Israr left Jamaat-e-Islami?
What is the main vision of www.tanzeem.org/
Let me help you on this "According to the Tanzeem-e-Islami website Dr. Israr and the party believe "the spiritual and intellectual center of the Muslim world has shifted from the Arab world to the Indo-Pakistan subcontinent" and "conditions are much more congenial for the establishment of Khilafah in Pakistan" than in other Muslim countries"
Did not Dr. Israr had a hand in creation of Tahreek-e-Khilafat Pakistan?
His book “Islamic Renaissance: The Real Task Ahead”.... have you ever read it?
When was this book published, does it not look like its a book of Prediction? What is going on right now in Pakistan? Was he a part of some Master Plan?
For any likes or dislikes of a particular person.. one need to remember his words or sayings... How did I come to know that Dr Israr was a classic clown ... his own words
""It is apparent to any careful observer that the Jews have continued to suffer the floggings of Divine punishment in the present century – the Holocaust during the Second World War being a case in point."
What the use, he is dead... damage is done. Now all we have to do is lick our wounds.
Bhai Hans I usually admire your sense of objectivity, factual argumentation coated with the layers of brevity and sensibility. But I think by terming the great Dr Israr as clown you’ve seriously undermined your objective mindset and I’ve taken a great offense by that repulsive remark of yours. Brother believe me when it comes to difference of opinion despite of immense respect for Dr Israr Marhoom o Maghfoor, I do had some differences as well on some of his thoughts and views in the past (which I do hold some of them till now) and its normal for one to have that margin of liberty to formulate a dissenting and differing opinion on a given subject matter.
In the last section of your post, which I’ve highlighted as well, if I’m not wrong in decoding your hidden message in those lines is that because of his offensive and blunt reasoning against the criminals of Almighty from the House of Israel which in return has resulted (In line with the hard-line rhetoric of many other Muslim clerics of current uni-polar world) in the ruthless backlash from them over the decades against the Muslim states scattered and disunited around the world, who (Israelis) unfortunately also hold the reins of extreme power and influence in Western Europe and Northern American territories in current scenario. Correct me if I’m wrong to interpret this reasoning of yours.
As far as this misconception of declaring himself as a Khalifa of his Caliphate movement and organizations in Pakistan is concerned then I think it’s totally baseless and misconstrued misconception formed by you in this regard as he always maintained himself during his lifespan that he was nothing more than an ordinary worker for the establishment of a Khilafat system in Pakistan in perfect reflection and footings of a perfectly constituted Caliphate (Divine Vice-regency) of the rightly guided first four companions of the great Prophet pbuh after his demise from this world in 632 C.E.
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