contra: Ilyas Kashmiri Alive!!!

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 121492.cms
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Soldiers turning rogue Pak's new terror headache

WASHINGTON: A prominent Pakistani military commando-turned-terrorist mastermind who was reported killed in a US Predator strike apparently survived the attack and has re-surfaced even as American attention has turned to the growing number of jihadis and extremists from Pakistans armed forces.

:evil: Ilyas Kashmiri :evil: , a former Pakistan Special Services Group commando and a veteran of the Islamabad-backed separatist movement in Kashmir, has promised retribution against the ''U.S and its proxies,'' an American terrorism watchdog reported Tuesday, after the armyman-turned-jihadi gave an interview to a Pakistani journalist to show that he was alive and ticking.

Kashmiri is very likely to be directly linked to last weekend's terror assault on Pakistan's Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi masterminded by :evil: ''Dr Usman'' :evil: (who is also from the Pakistani military), according to Bill Roggio of the Long War Journal, a publication which tracks terrorism in the region.

The story puts the focus on several emerging aspects of Pakistans existential association and struggle with terrorism: The growing number of Pakistani military personnel who are turning rogue; and their ethnic origins, mostly form Punjab province.

Also of concern to intelligence analysts is Pakistans revolving door policy :x that frees or cuts loose terrorists as had happened with Mumbai massacre mastermind :evil: Hafeez Mohammed Saeed :evil: this week who eventually return to bite the Pakistani establishment in the back. :lol:

It transpires now that Dr Usman, aka Mohammed Aqeel, the leader of the fedayeen attack on Pakistans military headquarters last weekend, was in police custody :o last year for his involvement in the Marriott hotel bomb attack but was released by authorities under unclear circumstances :? . Ditto for Kashmiri, who was also in custody before he was released. :x

Kashmiri, who Roggio says is considered by US intelligence to be one of al Qaida's most dangerous commanders and listed as the fourth most wanted terrorist by Pakistan's Interior Ministry, is not the first to resurface after being reported killed in a Predator strike. The infamous Ayman Al-Zawahiri and shoe-bomber Rasheed Rauf belong in the same category.

But more worryingly for intelligence analysts is the fact that an increasing number of jihadi masterminds are coming from Pakistans armed forces :oops: , which commentators till recently described a mostly liberal and professional :lol: .

Like Kashmiri, who was an SSG commando before he reportedly turned ''rogue'', Dr Usman aka Mohammed Aqeel, who led the attack on GHQ and has been captured alive, also served in the military. He was reportedly with the Pakistani Army Medical Corps till 2006 when he quit the military to join the terrorist outfit :evil: Jaish-e-Mohammed :evil: , whose leader
:evil: Maulana Masood Azhar :evil: is another terrorist who has disappeared in custody.

In the same tradition, :evil: Zaki-ur Lakhvi :evil: , one of the Mumbai carnage masterminds also served in the Pakistani military, as did brothers, Major Haroon Rasheed and Captain Khurram, who were both involved in the assassination of Maj. Gen. Faisal Alvi, who incidentally was Nobel Laureate V.S.Naipauls brother-in-law (Naipaul is married to Alvis sister Nadira).

At some point or the other, all the men were in the custody or under the watch of Pakistani authorities, but a dodgy legal system and their connection to the armed forces resulted in their slipping out of custody and conviction. Invariably, they seem to have returned to attack their former masters, according to analysts who track terrorist strikes.

''It is a result of Pakistan hybridizing officers and soldiers into groups like LeT, HuJI, JeM, etc. Are they really rogue when they started under state policy? The Pak military should be terrified right now,'' Roggio told ToI. The analyst believes the GHQ attack likely had inside help.

While Rasheed and Khurram -- who like Kashmiri were both in the SSG -- are accused in the killing of Major General Alvi, the GHQ fidayeen attacker ''Dr Usman'' was also arrested for his involvement in the assassination of Lieutenant General Mushtaq Ahmed Baig, the surgeon General of the Army Medical Corps, in February 2008. Gen.Baig is the senior-most Pakistani general killed by the terrorists. :shock:

The rash of ex-armymen-turned-terrorists from the ranks has also put the focus on Pakistans Punjab province, since most of these jihadis are from this region. This is from where the Pakistani military draws most of its recruits and there have been reports of increasing radicalization in Southern Punjab.

While the government in Islamabad has tried to portray the border tribal belt alongside Afghanistan as the ground zero of terrorism, some experts are pointing to Punjab and renegades in the Pakistani armed forces who hail from here.

''South Punjab has become the hub of jihadism,'' the respected Pakistani analyst Ayesha Siddiqa said in a recent magazine article. ''Yet, somehow, there are still many people in Pakistan who refuse to acknowledge this threat.''
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ contra



---You seem to have missed and almost always ignored and sidelined the main "Terror force" in the region that being presence of american and nato troops :roll: who have been on terror mission right from the beginning i.e have illegally occupied a country not just one but 2 :evil: :evil: :x and unless and until they leave, no one can end this chaos as the creator and instigators themselves dwell and survive off of it :ugeek:
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
taul bhai,
You should be ashamed of yourself. :x

Civilians are being slaughtered by "jihadis", and you blame it on "American presence" in Afghanistan?
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
taul bhai,
You should be ashamed of yourself. :x

Civilians are being slaughtered by "jihadis", and you blame it on "American presence" in Afghanistan?


---On the contrary,how dare you defend such occupiers who have killed far more and huge numbers of civilians than all the terrorists attack put together :evil: :evil:..your one sided and hypocritical view is obvious as you tend to defend murderers and illegal occupiers who have on false and bogus reports invaded countries :evil: :evil: :x where no killings were prevalent :P and your fatal obsession with jihad is just yet another quite heinous way to uselessly and shamelessly defend the unjust :oops: :ugeek:..

---You miss all the reporting as well where ratios of unequal and preposterous figures are allowed and discussed with complete apathy in their bloody war that being> 30:1(30 civilians to 1 intended) :evil: :evil: :evil: :x and all know this number is simply allowed but what's followed is much much worse :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
taul bhai,
1. More muslims have been killed by their fellow muslims, than by non muslims. :oops: :geek:

2. America has absolutely every right to be in Afghanistan 8-) . The Al Qaeda is based here, and the Taliban refused to hand over :evil: Osama Bin Laden :evil: to them.

3. hmmm...wasn't Afghanistan in a continuous state of war under the Taliban :? :x ? Weren't/Aren't the Taliban sworn enemies of the Shia's? :x
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
taul bhai,
1. More muslims have been killed by their fellow muslims, than by non muslims. :oops: :geek:

2. America has absolutely every right to be in Afghanistan 8-) . The Al Qaeda is based here, and the Taliban refused to hand over :evil: Osama Bin Laden :evil: to them.

3. hmmm...wasn't Afghanistan in a continuous state of war under the Taliban :? :x ? Weren't/Aren't the Taliban sworn enemies of the Shia's? :x


---Your illogical response is yet another proof of your biased approach :ugeek: bin laden hasn't been even charged as of today and even his name has been eliminated from their site as being a suspect for 9/11 :ugeek: they've been hitch hiking with their speculations and assumptions just as Colin Powell had to endure such a humiliation after presenting the bogus and false case for Iraq War :ugeek: both of their reasonings turned out to be blatant lies and simply manipulation :evil: :evil: :x :x .your hypocrisy is evident as if not already 8-) ..the count of civilian deaths doesn't bother you at all :evil: :evil: as civilians were your cry yet you fail to even match the number of civilians been killed by Illegally Occupying forces in Iraq and Afghanistan :ugeek:

---No bombings or killings happened prior to any invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq :ugeek: ,your personal grudge doesn't count :P as your grudges are countless and baseless :) ...and the region was at ease and at peace :ugeek: just look at the your last statement,it's so immature and childish :oops: :lol: ..dissociating your case further from civilian casualties :ugeek:

---Do you even know how many civilians have died so far in Iraq and afghanistan?? Number runs in hundreds of thousands done by Illegal Occupying forces :evil: :evil: :x :x and i know you wouldn't even blink on it :oops: coz your thinking is more oriented towards hatred against Islam and Muslims more than anything else :ugeek:
 

peace

Councller (250+ posts)
America needs to pull out from the territories it has forcefully and illegally occupied. The supposed problem solver is the actual problem creator. Supporters like contra have allowed super powers to force their will and interests on weak nations.
 

jimpack

Minister (2k+ posts)
taul said:
contra said:
taul bhai,
1. More muslims have been killed by their fellow muslims, than by non muslims. :oops: :geek:

2. America has absolutely every right to be in Afghanistan 8-) . The Al Qaeda is based here, and the Taliban refused to hand over :evil: Osama Bin Laden :evil: to them.

3. hmmm...wasn't Afghanistan in a continuous state of war under the Taliban :? :x ? Weren't/Aren't the Taliban sworn enemies of the Shia's? :x


---Your illogical response is yet another proof of your biased approach :ugeek: bin laden hasn't been even charged as of today and even his name has been eliminated from their site as being a suspect for 9/11 :ugeek: they've been hitch hiking with their speculations and assumptions just as Colin Powell had to endure such a humiliation after presenting the bogus and false case for Iraq War :ugeek: both of their reasonings turned out to be blatant lies and simply manipulation :evil: :evil: :x :x .your hypocrisy is evident as if not already 8-) ..the count of civilian deaths doesn't bother you at all :evil: :evil: as civilians were your cry yet you fail to even match the number of civilians been killed by Illegally Occupying forces in Iraq and Afghanistan :ugeek:

---No bombings or killings happened prior to any invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq :ugeek: ,your personal grudge doesn't count :P as your grudges are countless and baseless :) ...and the region was at ease and at peace :ugeek: just look at the your last statement,it's so immature and childish :oops: :lol: ..dissociating your case further from civilian casualties :ugeek:

---Do you even know how many civilians have died so far in Iraq and afghanistan?? Number runs in hundreds of thousands done by Illegal Occupying forces :evil: :evil: :x :x and i know you wouldn't even blink on it :oops: coz your thinking is more oriented towards hatred against Islam and Muslims more than anything else :ugeek:

You have got very insane and stupid logic when you write your comments. Please be more realistic with what has happened in Pakistan in last 4 days.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
jimpack said:
You have got very insane and stupid logic when you write your comments. Please be more realistic with what has happened in Pakistan in last 4 days.


---Leave logic aside :oops: it's not expected from you :ugeek: you sound like a kid who was born yesterday not to know any of it :oops: :oops: Quit being a moron :P reality and truth bites :ugeek:..facts remain facts as well as ground realities :ugeek:
 

jimpack

Minister (2k+ posts)
taul said:
jimpack said:
You have got very insane and stupid logic when you write your comments. Please be more realistic with what has happened in Pakistan in last 4 days.


---Leave logic aside :oops: it's not expected from you :ugeek: you sound like a kid who was born yesterday not to know a any of it :oops: :oops: Quit being a moron :P reality and truth bites :ugeek:..facts remain facts as well as ground realities :ugeek:


I pity you for the illogic sense of humor that you have. Good bless you.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
jimpack said:
I pity you for the illogic sense of humor that you have. Good bless you.


--Your myopic and deviated take :lol: :lol:..guess you were born yesterday and want to be distant from reality which is what i wrote :ugeek: but by only tagging along and nodding on every false report on the media would probably make you be on board with some :oops: but would not change a bit the facts on ground 8-) check all the details and facts but guess you're preoccupied with your innate hatred towards Pakistan that you may even knowing all would opt otherwise :ugeek:.before 2001 all was sailing smooth,no worries at all!! but all hell broke loose once americans Illegally occupied Afghanistan,i'm sure you gotta be old enough(though i doubt it) :roll: to alteast know this :P