Masjid Band Nahi Hongi | Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman and Mufti Taqi Usmani Aggressive Press Conference

waseem137

Minister (2k+ posts)
نظام حکومت سے سب سے پہلے مولوی ختم کرو، جیسے آج سے کئی سو سال پہلے یورپ نے جوتے مار کر پادریوں کو نکال دیا تھا۔
 

waseem137

Minister (2k+ posts)
جب تک مولوی کو نکیل نہیں ڈالو گے، پاکستان کبھی ترقی نہیں کر سکتا ، گانڈ کا زور بھی لگا لو۔
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Islam is a beautiful Deen and if Baddoo (Un-educated) of Arabs can understand and follow then why not us? All we need to act on order to Deen to educate urself.
Because they give preference to Quran and sunnah over firqa, maslak, mullah and moulvi. I've lived here for 40 plus here attended same mosques since childhood yet I don't know the name of a single mullah or moulvi here.

They have no authority here, they are kept for the job they are hired for, that is to lead the 5 daily prayers and for some to deliver the Friday sermon. Thats it.

Kissi ne isay ziyada choo chaan ki, seeda faarigh.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
اللہ کو انسانی جان کی حرمت سب سے زیادہ عزیز ہے۔ قرآن عقل اور غور و فکر کا پیامبر ہے، نہ کہ قیمتی جانیں خطرےمیں ڈالنے کا۔
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
جب تک مولوی کو نکیل نہیں ڈالو گے، پاکستان کبھی ترقی نہیں کر سکتا ، گانڈ کا زور بھی لگا لو۔
میں ان حالات میں مساجد کھلی رکھنے کے حق میں نہیں ہوں لیکن اس سے بھی اتفاق نہیں کرتا کے پاکستان کی ترقی میں مولوی رکاوٹ ہے. ترقی میں سب سے بڑی رکاوٹ عوام کے ترقی پسند کرپٹ منتخب نمائندے ہیں
 

CANSUK

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
مسجد کھولنے کے مسئلے پر اس فورم پر اُن لوگوں کوبھی ہاتھ صاف کرنے کا موقع مل گيا جو کبھی مسجد نہيں گئے۔
يہاں مثاليں تو سعودی عرب اور يو اے ای کی دی جا رہی ہيں پر يہ نہی پتہ کے مسجد کے موزن اور امام کی کيا ويليو ہے ، گھر کا بچا کُچا کھانا مسجد ميں بھجوا کر حاتم کی قبر پر لات ماردی جاتی ہے۔
نہ اچھی تنخواہ نہ کوئی مرات چندے کے پيسے پر مسجديں چلتی ہيں۔
ليکن ايک مولوی کی عزت زرداری سے بھی کم ہے ۔
ہر گلی کا آدمی کبھی بھی موزن اور امام کی کلاس لے ليتا ہے، ہر امام مُفتی مُنيب يا مولانا طارق جميل نہيں۔​
 
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Thunderstorm

Senator (1k+ posts)
Chak k rakho Mufti sahibaan! Masjidein khulne se unke pait me marorh uth rahe hain jo ya to zindagi me kabhi masjid me kisi ko nazar nahi aaye ya phir kufr k fatway aur khaandaan k laan taan k dar se ek Juma ki namaz badal-nakhaasta parhne jaate thay aur is lockdown k doran ab congregational prayers pe ban ki wajah se khushi se zameen pe paaon nahi rkh rahe thay. In namoonon ko Masjid se virus phelta nazar aata hai lekin shopping malls, roads pe fazool ki awaaragardi krne, ministers ki aaye roz TV pe media talk me journos k jhurmat me bina social distancing pe amal kiye awaan ko ghisay pitay raag alaapnay, photo session k liye ministers k hospitals k visits krne aur wahan doctors aur staff k jhund me briefing lete howe aur rozana govt employees ko offices me virus k risk k saamne expose krne me kisi qism ka koi khatra nazar nahi aata. O kon log ho tussi??? Example dete hain Saudi ki wahan ka King aur Crown Prince kb se shareeat ka perokaar bn gaya hai? Ye uski example dete hain jisne recently Madinah k paas Madaain-e-Salih A.S k ruins me one week tk musical concert kraane ki jasaarat ki hai.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
کوئی مفتی کو بتائے کے کورونا وائرس آپ کا فرقہ آپ کے اعمال آپ کی نیکیاں دیکھ کر آپ کو چھوڑ نہیں دی مسجد الحرام میں اگر اجتماع پر سختی ہے تو آپ لوگ کون سے دین کا پرچار کر رہے ہیں؟
not sure why qadyanis are worried about masjid? qadyanis should be asking the rennegade masroor
 

blalbutt

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Because they give preference to Quran and sunnah over firqa, maslak, mullah and moulvi. I've lived here for 40 plus here attended same mosques since childhood yet I don't know the name of a single mullah or moulvi here.

They have no authority here, they are kept for the job they are hired for, that is to lead the 5 daily prayers and for some to deliver the Friday sermon. Thats it.

Kissi ne isay ziyada choo chaan ki, seeda faarigh.
Seriously? You want that system to be implemented everywhere?

Reason they don't have any power is because its a MONARCHY and they don't want any unstability. Don't forget that if you're a muslim, your deen teaches you complete code of life and morals to act in this world. Without that we are nothing. Contemporary education takes from religions i.e. Islam, Christianity, Judaism and builds on that.

Aap k sawal ki taraf k kuch boltay nahi aur sirf namaz parhatay hain tu aap dekh hi saktay hain un logo ka haal..aik dosray se tu itehad nahi...They don't have vision, leadership, strength etc. Mard k bachay banain aur apni economy strong karain bajayay relying on india aur unko medals dena!!!
 

blalbutt

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Bhai sahab let me ask you few counter questions based on the questions you have asked above

Mufti sahiban are either way too innocent when they say that or they are just purposely lying here. If they know then why people are not following the social distancing rules? I am sure you must have seen the video of a lady police officer who was attacked in Karachi. If not then watch it and tell me who in that video is following the rule?

Again tell me do you really believe our people will follow the rules and implement precautions? Second the nature of the virus is that most of the infected are asymtomatic and they don't even know themselves that they have the virus. In other words they are just cariers and can infect others that might kill them. So you tell me how would you determine if a person standing on the left and right of another person is not carrying a virus? Honestly tell me would you be able to concentrate on your prayers if situation is like this? I don't think so as i am sure your concentration would not be on prayer specially if someone coughes or sneases near you ?

Here you are comparing apples with oranges. To stop the spread of the virus, you need to be atleast 6 feet away from another person. How would you implement that in mosques? I have been to the mosques specially Friday prayers where people pray outside on the road due to lack of space so how would you do that in this situation. On the other hand I went yesterday to the market and they forced people to follow 2 metre distance rule, have properly marked the flooring and only allow limited people at the time and rest wait in the queue outside with 2 metres apart. Now tell me who will implement that in masajids and do you really believe our public will follow it? Second for shopping you have whole day but for prayer for example maghrib you have very limited time.

and let me ask you the most important one. Do you believe that these mufti sahiban are right when even the most secred places Makkah and Madina masajid are not open for jamat prayer? Are those not ulema? if they have ordered to pray at home then why our scholars are so adamant about it? If Allah has given us permission to pray at home and is evident from sunnah then don't you think it is kufrane naimat?
I will start from end here...
We don't HAVE to follow Makkah and Madina regarding this..Dynamics are different there..Wohi keh rha hoon kab se if you read my previous posts. People from all over the world go to Makkah and Madina...Jab k aap ki muhallay ki masjid mai aap hi jain ge agr gayay tu
As far as social distancing goes, tu mufti sahib yehi keh rhay thay k muhallay ya masjid ki intezamiya ko ensure karna hoga k they implement the rules..if they can do it in bazaars why not in masjid and believe me people will follow if they know its a matter of life and death. This is not the time and place but they can ensure only x number of people occupy the masjid at any given time waigara wiagara.....

In the end all i am saying is we have to move forward with consensus after hearing and considering others point of view in all seriousness. Don't be judgemental whether its for muslims, christians, hindu's, or any other minorities. Sab Allah ki makhlooq hain so we should act without prejudice.

Western world is always changing its policies because they learn something new everyday and act because of that...hum purani information pe rely kar k hi bokhla chukay hain and don't want to hear anything else!! Corona is not a death sentence - About 95% of people recovered from it in China, so far 25% have recovered globally. Allah na karay kisi ko b ho but we need take precautions and rely on Allah after that
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
not sure why qadyanis are worried about masjid? qadyanis should be asking the rennegade masroor
Are you one of them moron mullah sympathizer? Before labelling someone with Qadiani or any other sect look into your own self. You are just another low life mullah sucking moron with an IQ of mullah.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Are you one of them moron mullah sympathizer? Before labelling someone with Qadiani or any other sect look into your own self. You are just another low life mullah sucking moron with an IQ of mullah.
you have accepted that you are qadyani yourself. I am not labeling you. and you accepted the fact to my own post not someone else
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
you have accepted that you are qadyani yourself. I am not labeling you. and you accepted the fact to my own post not someone else
When and where did i accept that I am Qadiani? Can you show me that post?
And I remember you said that you were Hindu/qadiani. You accepted it so I am not labeling you.
 

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