Masjid Band Nahi Hongi | Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman and Mufti Taqi Usmani Aggressive Press Conference

Thunderstorm

Senator (1k+ posts)
Chak k rakho Mufti sahibaan! Masjidein khulne se unke pait me marorh uth rahe hain jo ya to zindagi me kabhi masjid me kisi ko nazar nahi aaye ya phir kufr k fatway aur khaandaan k laan taan k dar se ek Juma ki namaz badal-nakhaasta parhne jaate thay aur is lockdown k doran ab congregational prayers pe ban ki wajah se khushi se zameen pe paaon nahi rkh rahe thay. In namoonon ko Masjid se virus phelta nazar aata hai lekin shopping malls, roads pe fazool ki awaaragardi krne, ministers ki aaye roz TV pe media talk me journos k jhurmat me bina social distancing pe amal kiye awaan ko ghisay pitay raag alaapnay, photo session k liye ministers k hospitals k visits krne aur wahan doctors aur staff k jhund me briefing lete howe aur rozana govt employees ko offices me virus k risk k saamne expose krne me kisi qism ka koi khatra nazar nahi aata. O kon log ho tussi??? Example dete hain Saudi ki wahan ka King aur Crown Prince kb se shareeat ka perokaar bn gaya hai? Ye uski example dete hain jisne recently Madinah k paas Madaain-e-Salih A.S k ruins me one week tk musical concert kraane ki jasaarat ki hai.
 

Citizen X

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Aap ne press conference suni hai...koi 15 requirements gina chori hain Mufti sb ne...and they are very stringent...all he is saying is if we are mitigating and understanding risk why should we not go to masjid? He has also said people who are high risk should avoid coming to the masajids + social distancing etc in the masajids + maintaining sanitation etc. Aap jawab de dein in an objective manner.

Pori duniya economy khoolnay ki baatain kar rhi hai after implementing what is necessary to avoid the spread then why can't that be applied here?If i can come to office, go to grocery stores how am i not vulnerable to virus in those places than masjid? Ab yeh na kehna k khana aasman se utarta hai aap k liye because that will be oxymoron for you

Bajayay mullah yeh mullah wo k, objective discussion honi chaiye na k name calling, profanity etc!
I already gave you an objective answer, why do have to jump through all these hoops which still don't guarantee anything. When it is already established that one can pray at home and there is no sin in it and is the safest way.

It literally is a matter of life and death.

Mullah per tanqeed is liye hai ke. Islam in logon ka Deen nahi, karobar hai. In ke ghar ka pura kharcha Pani chanday per chalta hai. Masjid Khali yaani no Chanda Yani no maal Pani.

And now specially Ramadan is coming up that is prime money making season for these moulvis and no way in hell they are not going to miss out on it. They don't really give a damn about people's health they only care about their money making.

Again as mentioned earlier regarding business again it is a matter of survival especially for the most affected class.

Praying Salah and taraweeh is mosque is not a matter of survival or life and death in fact the opposite.

I don't know if I can get any more objective than this.
 

Citizen X

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Mullahs have once again prevailed over the govt to keep mosques open and to allow Taraveeh prayers and the like in Ramzan. This when even Saudi Arabia has banned them. These Mullahs are the biggest threat to Pakistan frankly.
This is one of the things I don't like about IK he himself is stuck up in these things and so easily get pressured by the Mullah Mafia
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
government is opening business sectors but our dear stupid morons are crying why masjid is opening? go and tell the government no industry should be opened because of masajid. we will accept every thing but we cannot accept any scholar. we can accept amir doctor the fake because he is part of the government and we can also accept fawad chaudhry and all his nonsense cause he is with the government. please make your arguments cause I am sure all of you will asked about it when you die
 

Wake up Pak

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Jahil moron mullahs are asking masjids to be opened as Allah really need your ibada.
Allah has given you a brain to think rationally not emotionally.
Right now we have to be extra careful to avoid human contact as much as we can possibly do.
Some mullahs on this forum will probably curse me and will issue fatwa against me, I really don't give a shit about them.
 

Citizen X

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government is opening business sectors but our dear stupid morons are crying why masjid is opening? go and tell the government no industry should be opened because of masajid. we will accept every thing but we cannot accept any scholar. we can accept amir doctor the fake because he is part of the government and we can also accept fawad chaudhry and all his nonsense cause he is with the government. please make your arguments cause I am sure all of you will asked about it when you die
Its called earning a living, because of which you can feed yourself and your family. Its a matter of survival. No one or their family will go hungry ( save for mullahs) by not going to mosques.

If Pakistan's economic situation was good and we did not have so many daily wager labourers I'm sure a complete 24 hr lock down would have been implemented. But its not and we have no choice but to take this risk.

Please don't let your emotions overrule your rationale. Think with your head not with your heart.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

Can Mufti Sahib announce this? If yes according to what authority? If no then why government of Pakistan not taking action against him to create a government within government?
 
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FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aap ne press conference suni hai...koi 15 requirements gina chori hain Mufti sb ne...and they are very stringent...all he is saying is if we are mitigating and understanding risk why should we not go to masjid? He has also said people who are high risk should avoid coming to the masajids + social distancing etc in the masajids + maintaining sanitation etc. Aap jawab de dein in an objective manner.

Pori duniya economy khoolnay ki baatain kar rhi hai after implementing what is necessary to avoid the spread then why can't that be applied here?If i can come to office, go to grocery stores how am i not vulnerable to virus in those places than masjid? Ab yeh na kehna k khana aasman se utarta hai aap k liye because that will be oxymoron for you

Bajayay mullah yeh mullah wo k, objective discussion honi chaiye na k name calling, profanity etc!

Bhai sahab let me ask you few counter questions based on the questions you have asked above

Mufti sahiban are either way too innocent when they say that or they are just purposely lying here. If they know then why people are not following the social distancing rules? I am sure you must have seen the video of a lady police officer who was attacked in Karachi. If not then watch it and tell me who in that video is following the rule?

Again tell me do you really believe our people will follow the rules and implement precautions? Second the nature of the virus is that most of the infected are asymtomatic and they don't even know themselves that they have the virus. In other words they are just cariers and can infect others that might kill them. So you tell me how would you determine if a person standing on the left and right of another person is not carrying a virus? Honestly tell me would you be able to concentrate on your prayers if situation is like this? I don't think so as i am sure your concentration would not be on prayer specially if someone coughes or sneases near you ?

Here you are comparing apples with oranges. To stop the spread of the virus, you need to be atleast 6 feet away from another person. How would you implement that in mosques? I have been to the mosques specially Friday prayers where people pray outside on the road due to lack of space so how would you do that in this situation. On the other hand I went yesterday to the market and they forced people to follow 2 metre distance rule, have properly marked the flooring and only allow limited people at the time and rest wait in the queue outside with 2 metres apart. Now tell me who will implement that in masajids and do you really believe our public will follow it? Second for shopping you have whole day but for prayer for example maghrib you have very limited time.

and let me ask you the most important one. Do you believe that these mufti sahiban are right when even the most secred places Makkah and Madina masajid are not open for jamat prayer? Are those not ulema? if they have ordered to pray at home then why our scholars are so adamant about it? If Allah has given us permission to pray at home and is evident from sunnah then don't you think it is kufrane naimat?
 

Citizen X

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Apnay chanday ki khatir hazaron nahi lakhon logo ki jaane khatre mein daal di. Aur khudanakasta is ki wajah se jitni amwaat hongi un sub ka khoon hi jahilon ke sar per ho ga
 

Citizen X

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we need to have a system like in dubai and saudi where all the Mullahs are in control
I've been saying this for years now. First of all you actually need known a thing or two about Islam before becoming one, not like in Pakistan just grow a bushy beard, ajeeb se pagri and multicoloured chola and viola instant mullah.

And everything they say or do in the mosque is monitored. The friday sermons they give are approved by the govt.
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I've been saying this for years now. First of all you actually need known a thing or two about Islam before becoming one, not like in Pakistan just grow a bushy beard, ajeeb se pagri and multicoloured chola and viola instant mullah.

And everything they say or do in the mosque is monitored. The friday sermons they give are approved by the govt.
irony is these same mullahs go to dubai and saudi and obey thier strict religious rules but in pakistan they act like Mafia

islamic leader should be an example rather then a thug
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
we need to have a system like in dubai and saudi where all the Mullahs are in control
I doubt in any other country can allow such an unauthorized statement. Mufti Muneed know no one is going to question him so he is taking law in his own hands.
 

Wake up Pak

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کوئی مفتی کو بتائے کے کورونا وائرس آپ کا فرقہ آپ کے اعمال آپ کی نیکیاں دیکھ کر آپ کو چھوڑ نہیں دی مسجد الحرام میں اگر اجتماع پر سختی ہے تو آپ لوگ کون سے دین کا پرچار کر رہے ہیں؟
 

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