drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis a CIA operative: Guardian !!!

whats the big news?even a child knew that davis was cia operative.and he probably heads blackwater in punjab too,because some cia operatives handle blackwater or xe too
now his identity is public than what will happen?nothing
as our govt and army is working side by side with CIA,and drone attacks are combined effort of pak govt and usa

by the way yesterday and today two big drone attacks took place in west pakistan tribal area..upto 20 or more people were martyred
but as pakistanis think that only life of lahore karachi islamabad people is worth anything,so as usual these deaths will be ignored
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis a CIA operative: Guardian !!!

Good news. Its prove that consulates employee was a highly trained security consultant, remembering in mind daniel perl. In Pakistan PM appoint people who does not have proper training nor education.

Omar Sheikh always claimed that Daniel Pearl was an Israeli agent working as a journalist so a legit target.
This sage will put a question mark on his sentence as well.
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis a CIA operative: Guardian !!!


http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101175327&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20110222

Haqeeqat e hall ahista ahista khul kar samanay aa rahee hay,Aoor hamaray wazeer e dakhila purani dhun per hee raqas farma rahay hain .

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rakeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

American Held in Pakistan Shootings Worked With C.I.A.



WASHINGTON The American arrested in Pakistan after shooting two men at a crowded traffic stop was part of a covert, C.I.A.-led team collecting intelligence and conducting surveillance on militant groups deep inside the country, according to American government officials.
Working from a safe house in the eastern city of Lahore, the detained American contractor, Raymond A. Davis, a retired Special Forces soldier, carried out scouting and other reconnaissance missions as a security officer for the Central Intelligence Agency case officers and technical experts doing the operations, the officials said.
Mr. Daviss arrest and detention last month, which came after what American officials have described as a botched robbery attempt, have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on a web of covert American operations inside Pakistan, part of a secret war run by the C.I.A.
The episode has exacerbated already frayed relations between the American intelligence agency and its Pakistani counterpart, created a political dilemma for the weak, pro-American Pakistani government, and further threatened the stability of the country, which has the worlds fastest growing nuclear arsenal.
Without describing Mr. Daviss mission or intelligence affiliation, President Obama last week made a public plea for his release. Meanwhile, there have been a flurry of private phone calls to Pakistan from Leon E. Panetta, the C.I.A. director, and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, all intended to persuade the Pakistanis to release the secret operative.
Mr. Davis has worked for years as a C.I.A. contractor, including time at Blackwater Worldwide, the private security firm (now called Xe) that Pakistanis have long viewed as symbolizing a culture of American gun-slinging overseas.
The New York Times had agreed to temporarily withhold information about Mr. Daviss ties to the agency at the request of the Obama administration, which argued that disclosure of his specific job would put his life at risk. Several foreign news organizations have disclosed some aspects of Mr. Daviss work with the C.I.A.
On Monday, American officials lifted their request to withhold publication. George Little, a C.I.A. spokesman, declined to comment specifically on the Davis matter, but said in a statement: Our security personnel around the world act in a support role providing security for American officials. They do not conduct foreign intelligence collection or covert operations.
Since the United States is not at war in Pakistan, the American military is largely restricted from operating in the country. So the Central Intelligence Agency has taken on an expanded role, operating armed drones that kill militants inside the country and running covert operations, sometimes without the knowledge of the Pakistanis.
Several American and Pakistani officials said that the C.I.A. team with which Mr. Davis worked in Lahore was tasked with tracking the movements of various Pakistani militant groups, including Lashkar-e-Taiba, a particularly violent group that Pakistan uses as a proxy force against India but that the United States considers a threat to allied troops in Afghanistan. For the Pakistanis, such spying inside their country is an extremely delicate issue, particularly since Lashkar has longstanding ties to Pakistans intelligence service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI.
Still, American and Pakistani officials use Lahore as a base of operations to investigate the militant groups and their madrasas in the surrounding area.
The officials gave various accounts of the makeup of the covert team and of Mr. Davis, who at the time of his arrest was carrying a Glock pistol, a long-range wireless set, a small telescope and a headlamp. An American and a Pakistani official said in interviews that operatives from the Pentagons Joint Special Operations Command had been assigned to the group to help with the surveillance missions. Other American officials, however, said that no military personnel were involved with the team.
Special operations troops routinely work with the C.I.A. in Pakistan. Among other things, they helped the agency pinpoint the location of Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the deputy Taliban commander who was arrested in January 2010 in Karachi.
Even before the arrest of Mr. Davis, his C.I.A. affiliation was known to Pakistani authorities, who keep close tabs on the movements of Americans. His visa, presented to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in late 2009, describes his job as a regional affairs officer, a common job description for officials working with the agency.
According to that application, Mr. Davis carried an American diplomatic passport and was listed as administrative and technical staff, a category that typically grants diplomatic immunity to its holder.
American officials said that with Pakistans government trying to clamp down on the increasing flow of Central Intelligence Agency officers and contractors trying to gain entry to Pakistan, more of these operatives have been granted cover as embassy employees and given diplomatic passports.
As Mr. Davis is held in a jail cell in Lahore the subject of an international dispute at the highest levels new details are emerging of what happened in a dramatic daytime scene on the streets of central Lahore, a sprawling city, on Jan. 27.
By the American account, Mr. Davis was driving alone in an impoverished area rarely visited by foreigners, and stopped his car at a crowded intersection. Two Pakistani men brandishing weapons hopped off motorcycles and approached. Mr. Davis killed them with the Glock, an act American officials insisted was in self-defense against armed robbers.
But on Sunday, the text of the Lahore Police Departments crime report was published in English by a prominent daily newspaper, The Daily Times, and it offered a somewhat different account.
It is based in part on the version of events Mr. Davis gave Pakistani authorities, and it seems to raise doubts about his claim that the shootings were in self-defense.

According to that report, Mr. Davis told the police that after shooting the two men, he stepped out of the car to take photographs of one of them, then called the United States Consulate in Lahore for help.But the report also said that the victims were shot several times in the back, a detail that some Pakistani officials say proves the killings were murder. By this account, Mr. Davis fired at the men through his windshield, then stepped out of the car and continued firing. The report said that Mr. Davis then got back in his car and managed to escape, but that the police gave chase and overpowered him at a traffic circle a short distance away.
In a bizarre twist that has further infuriated the Pakistanis, a third man was killed when an unmarked Toyota Land Cruiser, racing to Mr. Daviss rescue, drove the wrong way down a one-way street and ran over a motorcyclist. As the Land Cruiser drove recklessly back to the consulate, the report said, items fell out of the vehicle, including 100 bullets, a black mask and a piece of cloth with the American flag.
Pakistani officials have demanded that the Americans in the S.U.V. be turned over to local authorities, but American officials say they have already left the country.
Mr. Davis and the other Americans were heavily armed and carried sophisticated equipment, the report said.
The Pakistani Foreign Office, generally considered to work under the guidance of the ISI, has declined to grant Mr. Davis what it calls the blanket immunity from prosecution that diplomats enjoy. In a setback for Washington, the Lahore High Court last week gave the Pakistani government until March 14 to decide on Mr. Daviss immunity.
The pro-American government led by President Asif Ali Zardari, fearful for its survival in the face of a surge of anti-American sentiment, has resisted strenuous pressure from the Obama administration to release Mr. Davis to the United States. Some militant and religious groups have demanded that Mr. Davis be tried in the Pakistani courts and hanged.
Relations between the two spy agencies were tense even before the episode on the streets of Lahore. In December, the C.I.A.s top clandestine officer in Pakistan hurriedly left the country after his identity was revealed. Some inside the agency believe that ISI operatives were behind the disclosure retribution for the head of the ISI, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, being named in a New York City lawsuit filed in connection with the 2008 terror attack in Mumbai, in which members of his agency are believed to have played a role. ISI officials denied that was the case.
One senior Pakistani official close to the ISI said Pakistani spies were particularly infuriated over the Davis episode because it was such a public spectacle. Besides the three Pakistanis who were killed, the widow of one of the victims committed suicide by swallowing rat poison.
Moreover, the official said, the case was embarrassing for the ISI for its flagrancy, revealing how much freedom American spies have to roam around the country.
We all know the spy-versus-spy games, we all know it works in the shadows, the official said, but you dont get caught, and you dont get caught committing murders.
Mr. Davis, burly at 36, appears to have arrived in Pakistan in late 2009 or early 2010. American officials said he operated as part of the Central Intelligence Agencys Global Response Staff in various parts of the country, including Lahore and Peshawar.
Documents released by Pakistans Foreign Office showed that Mr. Davis was paid $200,000 a year, including travel expenses and insurance.
He is a native of rural southwest Virginia, described by those who know him as an unlikely figure to be at the center of international intrigue.
He grew up in Big Stone Gap, a small town named after the gap in the mountains where the Powell River emerges.
The youngest of three children, Mr. Davis enlisted in the military after graduating from Powell Valley High School in 1993.
I guess about any mans dream is to serve his country, his sister Michelle Wade said.
Shrugging off the portrait of him as an international spy comfortable with a Glock, Ms. Wade said: He would always walk away from a fight. Thats just who he is.
His high school friends remember him as good-natured, athletic, respectful. He was also a protector, they said, the type who stood up for the underdog.
Friends with everyone, just a salt of the earth person, said Jennifer Boring, who graduated from high school with Mr. Davis.
Mr. Davis served in the infantry in Europe including a short tour as a peacekeeper in Macedonia before joining the Third Special Forces Group in 1998, where he remained until he left the Army in 2003. The Army Special Forces known as the Green Berets are an elite group trained in weapons and foreign languages and cultures.
It is unclear when Mr. Davis began working for the C.I.A., but American officials said that in recent years he worked for the spy agency as a Blackwater contractor and later founded his own small company, Hyperion Protective Services.
Mr. Davis and his wife have moved frequently, living in Las Vegas, Arizona and Colorado.
One neighbor in Colorado, Gary Sollee, said that Mr. Davis described himself as former military, adding that hed have to leave the country for work pretty often, and when hes gone, hes gone for an extended period of time.
Mr. Daviss sister, Ms. Wade, said she was awaiting her brothers safe return.
The only thing Im going to say is I love my brother, she said. I love my brother, God knows, I love him. Im just praying for him.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

Will Government accept this bitter fact?
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Davis serves in CIA, confirms US official

WASHINGTON: For the very first time, a top US official has Monday dazed the world, confirming that the US double murder suspect, Raymond Davis, serves for CIA, an American secret agency. Raymond Davis was a CIA agent in Pakistan. The culprit was living along another five CIA agents in a house in Lahore till the day of his arrest., reported Geo News citing a US newspaper.

Citing a top US official in President Obama cabinet, a US newspaper has reported that Raymond Davis was serving in Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) being an agent deployed in Lahore, Pakistan.

Davis shared accommodation with another five contractors of an American intelligence agency CIA and was spying for US in Lahore, the official claimed.

According to report, the US official, ascertaining the actual status of Raymond Davis in Pakistan, feared too, that revelation of such sensitive information could be tantamount to creating a grave rift between Pakistan and US relations and said the affects would be lasting and formidable.

Also, the unknown US official admitted that setting Raymond free, given the prevailing ablaze situation in Pakistan, would be second to impossible, as any of such attempts must swell the anger in Pakistan.

Meanwhile, US State Department has, yet another time, urged on Pakistan for immediate release of Davis. US is worried for Raymond being detained and tried in Pakistan. Our government has maintained contacts with Pakistan in this connection, State Department spokesman Philip. J. Crowley told reporters.

Pakistan government is only responsible for safety of Raymond Davis, he added.

http://thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=11532
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Davis serves in CIA, confirms US official

It has been confirmed now by many sources, Telegraph UK, New York Times, etc.
 

sysman8

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

this gov is petrified. aap kuch bhee karlo yeh kuch nahee karen gai..the only solution for us is to come on streets..
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

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this washington post news clearly says that reymond was working for cia and blackwter and he was on search mission for taliban search in big cities of pakistan,,,he was searching for islamic groups presence in lahore islamabad peshawer etc.so he was kind of a hero for liberal and "non extremist" and "roshan khayaal" pakistanis who support this american war against islam.
only this is real and genuine news,rest of all stuff is just nonsense
 
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gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

All these articles coming out of the US media gives me reason to believe that US WANTS Davis to be convicted to camoflage the real curlprit, a senior to Davis, the person who is giving orders to Davis.

May be the giy who crushed to Pakis and reportedly left Pak is the actual one.
 

sayeenwada

Councller (250+ posts)
CIA spy Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report Written by oolaah on 22 February 2011 By ANI | AN

CIA spy Davis was giving nuclear bomb material to Al-Qaeda, says report
Written by oolaah on 22 February 2011

don, Feb 20(ANI): Double murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda terrorists with nuclear fissile material and biological agents, according to a report.

http://oolaah.com/?p=17606
 
Re: NYtimes unveils Raymond Davis background, not a diplomat[former CIA], happens to be blackwater employee.

Fawad Digital Outreach Team US State Department


يہ بات توجہ طلب ہے کہ کچھ راۓ دہندگان بعض مغربی اخبارات ميں شائع ہونی والی رپورٹس ميں سے بغير کسی نام کے امريکی عہديدران کے حوالے سے پيش کيے جانے والے بيانات کے منتخب حصوں کو محض اس بنياد پر اجاگر کر رہے ہيں کيونکہ اس سے ان کے مخصوص خيالات اور طرز فکر کو تقويت ملتی ہے۔ ليکن اسی اصول کو اس وقت نظرانداز کر ديا جاتا ہے جب امريکی صدر سميت حکومت کے اعلی ترين عہدوں پر فائز افراد متعدد بار سرکاری طور پر بيانات کے ذريعے يہ باور کرواتے ہيں کہ لاہور میں گرفتار ہونے والے امريکی کو سفارتی استثنی حاصل ہے۔


اگر بغير کسی نام اور بغیر کسی شناخت کے کسی امريکی عہديدار کا بيان بعض تجزيہ نگاروں اور راۓ دہندگان کے نزديک ناقابل ترديد ثبوت ہے تو پھر اسی اصول کے تحت جانے مانے اور شناخت شدہ اعلی امريکی عہديداروں، امريکی سفارت خانے اور اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹنمٹ کی جانب سے سفارتی استثنی کے حوالے سے موقف اور بيانات کو بھی تسليم کيا جانا چاہيے۔


امريکی حکومت نے شروع دن سے يہ موقف اختيار کيا ہے کہ گرفتار ہونے والے امريکی شہری کو سال 1961 کے سفارتی تعلقات سے متعلق ويانا کنونشن کے تحت سفارتی استثنی حاصل ہے۔ جب وہ پاکستان آۓ تھے تو امريکی حکومت نے تحريری طور پر حکومت پاکستان کو مطلع کيا تھا کہ ان کی تعنياتی اسلام آباد ميں امريکی سفارت خانے ميں تکنيکی اور انتظامی سٹاف کی حيثيت سے سفارتی کيٹيگری ميں سفارت کار کی حيثيت سے کی گئ ہے۔ ويانا کنونشن کے آرٹيکل 37 کے تحت سفارت خانے کے تکنيکی اور انتظامی عملے کو مکمل طور پر قانونی کاروائ سے استثنی حاصل ہوتی ہے اور کنونشن کے تحت انھيں قانونی طور پر گرفتار يا قيد نہيں کيا جا سکتا۔



فواد ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ






 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists?

There may be various fabulous stories about Raymond Davis but the fact remains that he has murdered two innocent persons while having an unlicenced weapon and was also having other illegal material with him. The police has collected sufficient incriminating material against him. The government of Pakistan is also talking that the decision about the fate of Raymond Davis by the courts will be acceptable and not through any other device. At the same time, the Americans are pressing hard for the release of Raymond Davis. I am afraid that how long the Americans are pressing for one person and how we are surviving after having large number of casualities of innocent citizens of Pakistan in terrorist, suicidal attacks. The mysterious stories about Raymond Davis must be brought to picture so as to expose the real picture of the Americans. Inshallah the time is coming when the Americans would face the music. At present our politicians are although commenting upon Raymond Davis case but very carefully as ultimately they are also at the mercy of Americans.

Noose seems to be tightening around Raymonds neck as now he is likely to face the charges of espionage and tried under Army Act.
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis' involved in supplying nuclear fissile material and biological agents" to TTP

US should be ashamed, they are so retarded and stupid. They think their propaganda will fool people. SIGH SHAME ON YOU
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Raymond Davis breaks into tears - Apparently CIA has abandoned their spy & may try to murder him in Jail

It was perhaps for the first time since his arrest for the gory crime he committed that Raymond Allen Davis broke into tears after USZ Consul General in Lahore, Carmella Conroy, visited him in jail, it is learnt. He (Davis) was seen sobbing on Sunday after Carmella left the jail. He talked to his family on Carmellas cell phone, insiders said. The American killer was visibly tense in the first indication that he has started to realise the chances of getting away with the dual murder, despite huffing and puffing at the highest level, are getting thin by the day, sources said. He seems to have realised the new situation as his cover has been blown.
Raymond Allen Davis, the apparently abandoned spy of CIA who murdered 2 innocent Pakistanis

In line with the discovery that he is the CIAs acting chief in Pakistan, Davis security has been augmented manifold to avert possible life threat to him from the very agency he served (the CIA). The Rangers deployed to protect him have been armed with light machine guns (LMGs), sources said. Regarding Davis earlier luxuries, the lady who visited him on Valentines nights, it can now be confirmed is not his spouse, but a Consulate employee. She visited him again on Monday, sources said. The Rangers, equipped with LMGs, have been deputed on a water tank of the jail in addition to the main gate. Monday also saw the drop scene of the drama that started with the slapping of a jail official by the USZ killer. The recipient, Assistant Superintendent Jail Nasir Nawaz, was removed from Davis security, fearing he may have held vendetta against Davis.

http://networkedblogs.com/eBJ6U
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis' involved in supplying nuclear fissile material and biological agents" to TTP

US should be ashamed, they are so retarded and stupid. They think their propaganda will fool people. SIGH SHAME ON YOU

Not only US but his puppies in the media and cyber forum should also be ashammed of their character. Specially those ones who deny everything under the cover of conspiracy theory.
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis breaks into tears - Apparently CIA has abandoned their spy & may try to murder him in Jail

Pakistani authorities should get as much as details from him asap(VIA CHITROL OR WHAT EVER WAY). Other associates and partners involved should be exposed!!!
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis breaks into tears - Apparently CIA has abandoned their spy & may try to murder him in Jail

Pakistani authorities should get as much as details from him asap(VIA CHITROL OR WHAT EVER WAY). Other associates and partners involved should be exposed!!!

According to newspapers, he is singing like a bird.:) Info is gushing out of his mouth.
 

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