aasimnaveed

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists

why our intelligence agencies r not doing tafteeesh with raymond davis???..why ISI<MI<IB are quite???..where sre ghairat mand generals...why ISPR so quite??....
 

samikhan

New Member
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists

sir ap in bhary kay tatoo ku apny zameer ki khirki sa mat dekhen ap sir haq ki bat kiya karen hum ap ke sath hen.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists?

They could do any thing. The government , which could kill its own 3000 people in a false drama of 9/11 , and again , spend trillion dollars in wars, causing the death of 10, 000 troups again...

They could do anything.

They are not human friendly.. or nice people in fact...just misunderstanding about them....

They want to start a war against Pakistan.

And luckily the new generation in Pakistan Military is not like Mush or Alcoholic.

Most of the Colonel , recruited in Zia time are Islamic and have beard....
 

Jack Sparrow

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists?

who knows , how many raymand davis are operating in Pakistan.We got only one by chance.
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Naswaar and Raymond Davis

http://thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=4109&Cat=13&dt=2%2F20%2F2011

By Mariana Baabar
Sunday, February 20, 2011

ISLAMABAD: The United States government was unaware that Raymond Davis was hooked on ‘naswar,’ and in all probability he is now undergoing withdrawal symptoms, unless there is a friendly guard nearby to offer him some, or the jail doctors recommends weaning him away from what is a legal form of tobacco.

When the US Embassy was approached, they appeared unaware of Davis’s ‘desi’ addiction. Abrupt stopping of ‘naswar’ intake can be uncomfortable as junkies discover, if they are without their hourly ‘fix’. Withdrawal symptoms include headache and anxiety and anger.

According to a Bannu shopkeeper, the price of one packet of Bannu Naswar is Rs7. “One packet is enough for thirty pinches of ‘naswar.’

According to the challan by the city police in Lahore, a packet of ‘naswar’, was also recovered from Davis’s car, amongst other personal and lethal items that an undercover agent on active duty is expected to have with him at all times. US troops stationed inside Afghanistan are known to enjoy ‘naswar’ and have become hooked to it. Davis in all probability must have picked up the habit during his long stays in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. It also reflects on the company he was keeping at the time. The problem of ‘naswar’ like chewing ‘pan’ is that one has to spit it out after a while.

Whether the Americans including Davis have found a socially correct way to deal with this aspect is unknown or did he spit it out of his car window?

According to Wikipedia, ‘naswar is held in the mouth for 10 to 15 minutes. If it is chewed it produces a bad taste in the mouth. Usually, the consumption varies but mostly people take it on an hourly basis.’ It is primarily used in Central Asia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Sweden and India.

“Once I was sitting next to a Norwegian at a meeting in Europe and was surprised to see him enjoying ‘naswar’”, a Pakistani diplomat told The News. It is predominantly used by members of the Pashtun ethnic groups. Nowadays people of other regions i.e. Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan also use it and the number of addict people is increasing day by day.

Some of the great varieties of naswar are found in different parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province in Pakistan, but Bannu is especially famous for it. There are different brands of ‘naswar’ in the provinces such as “Toor Khamar”, “Missile”, “Safarish Khan”, “Lucky” etc. Toor Khamar ‘naswar’ is prepared in Shahbaz Garhi, Pakhtoonkhwah, while Safarish Khan and Lucky are prepared in Havelian, Pakhtoonkhwah and Abbottabad, Hazara Division, Pakhtoonkhwah.

The News received telephone calls from the Fata area, and two calls from Waziristan when this correspondent had in an international Pushto programme, mentioned Davis’s love for ‘naswar’. “This is the only good thing we have heard about this American killer. We are glad that he has picked up this healthy habit from his Pushtun friends and acquaintances,” said a gentleman who identified himself as Wazir Khan.

Some of Khan’s friends had this to say, “So much attention is being given to three boys killed in Lahore by an American. What about the Pakhtuns who are being killed like flies by US drones? What will it take to get kind of worldwide attention?”
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Naswaar and Raymond Davis

Iskee sirf NASWAR hee band kardoo,sab kuch khud hee ugal dayga keh wooh pakistan main kia kia gull khila chuka hay,Aorr hath joor kar muaafee bhee mangay gaa.

Yaa sirf amreekion walay tareekay say iss say tafteesh karain,(Iss kay status koo bhula kar)khudbakhud bakanay lagg jaigaa.
 

pakistan_pak

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Naswaar and Raymond Davis

Shuker ha pan nhian khata.warna sara jail surakh ho jata..............sirf naswar ki magnain hi hain.
 

pakistan_pak

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Naswaar and Raymond Davis

[hilar]:lol:[hilar](bigsmile):lol:
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PRObably some F_16 pilot is selling this naswar after retirement.
 
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists

now this is serious.if rymond davis (the terrorist) successfully handed nukes to american aided taliban , then america and india will have a strong case to blame pakistan that its nukes are now in hands of terrorist .so it is absolutely necessary to attack on pakistan's nuclear assets.



[HI]
im very very impressed by ramond davis , he managed to get the "nuclear bomb" wow, have anybody seen the size and weight of the bomb/s, is it a small size just pick it up, put it in the pocket and go away !!!!!!!!!!!! ???? And just deliver ...it to the terrorists , hahaha , without assembling it , how the nuclear bomb is thrown or shoot to the target , i mean media used to throw or shoot . ??

Yes sure he himself is terrorist , american spy thats for sure , yes he is the person who must be informing the targets for the drone attacks and sure he is the person who must be delivering the jackets full of explosives .yes he must have had contacts with all the criminals working for money , all over pakistan .
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Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
American who Sparked Diplomatic Crisis over Lahore Shooting was CIA Spy.Pakistanis still don't Believe?

American who Sparked Diplomatic Crisis over Lahore Shooting was CIA Spy...

Raymond Davis employed by CIA 'beyond shadow of doubt'
Former soldier charged with murder over deaths of two men
Davis accused of shooting one man twice in the back as he fled

By Declan Walsh in Lahore and Ewen MacAskill in Washington

February 20, 2011 "
The Guardian" -- The American who shot dead two men on a Lahore street, triggering a diplomatic crisis between Pakistan and the United States, is a CIA agent who was on assignment at the time of the incident.
Raymond Davis has been the subject of widespread speculation since he opened fire with a semi-automatic Glock pistol on the two men who had pulled up alongside his car at a red light on 25 January.
Pakistani authorities charged him with murder, but the Obama administration has insisted he is an "administrative and technical official" attached to its Lahore consulate and is entitled to diplomatic immunity.
Based on interviews in the US and Pakistan, the Guardian can confirm that the 36-year-old former special forces soldier is employed by the CIA. "It's beyond a shadow of a doubt," said a senior Pakistani intelligence official.
The revelation may complicate American efforts to free Davis, who says he acted in self-defence when he opened fire on two men, both of whom were carrying guns.
Pakistani prosecutors, who say the men were petty criminals trying to rob him at gunpoint, accuse the spy of using excessive force, getting out of his car to shoot one of them twice in the back as he ran away. The man's body was discovered 30 feet from his motorbike.
"It went way beyond what we define as self-defence. It was not commensurate with the threat," a senior police official involved in the case told the Guardian.
The Pakistani government is aware of Davis's CIA status yet has kept quiet in the face of immense American pressure to free him under the Vienna convention. Last week President Barack Obama described Davis as "our diplomat" and dispatched his chief diplomatic troubleshooter, Senator John Kerry, to Islamabad. Kerry returned home empty-handed.
Many Pakistanis are outraged at the idea of an armed American rampaging through their second largest city; some analysts have warned of Egyptian-style protests if Davis is released. The government, fearful of a furious public backlash, says it needs until 14 March to decide whether Davis enjoys immunity.
Outrage has been heightened by the death of a third man who was crushed by an American vehicle as it rushed to Davis's aid. Pakistani officials believe the vehicle's occupants were also CIA because they came from the same suburban house where Davis lived and were heavily armed.
The US refused Pakistani demands to interrogate the two men and on Sunday a senior Pakistani intelligence official said they had left the country. "They have flown the coop, they are already in America," he said.
ABC News reported that the men had the same diplomatic visa as Davis. It is not unusual for US intelligence officers, like their counterparts round the world, to carry diplomatic passports.
The US has engaged in an edgy public relations offensive to free Davis, accusing Pakistan of illegally detaining him and riding roughshod over international treaties. Angry politicians have proposed slashing Islamabad's $1.5bn (about 900m) annual aid; the state department repeatedly describes him as "a member of the administrative and technical staff of the US embassy in Islamabad".
But Washington's case is hobbled by its resounding silence on Davis's background and role. Davis served in the US special forces for 10 years before leaving in 2003 to become a private security contractor. A senior Pakistani official said he believed Davis worked with Xe, the controversial firm formerly known as Blackwater, before joining the CIA.
Pakistani suspicions about Davis's role were stoked by the equipment police confiscated from his car after the shooting: an unlicensed pistol, a long-range radio, a GPS device, an infrared torch and a camera with pictures of buildings around Lahore.
"This is not the work of a diplomat. He was doing espionage and surveillance activities," said the Punjab law minister, Rana Sanaullah, adding that he had "confirmation" that Davis was a CIA employee.
A number of US media outlets later learned about Davis's CIA role but have kept it under wraps at the request of the Obama administration, which fears that disclosure could inflame opinion in Pakistan and possibly put Davis at risk.
A Colorado television station, 9NEWS, initially made a connection after speaking to Davis's wife, who lives outside Denver. She referred its inquiries to a number in Washington which turned out to be the CIA. The station subsequently removed the CIA reference from its website at the request of the US government.
Nicole Vap, an executive producer, said: "Because of the safety concerns, we decided to amend the story. But it remains accurate."
The episode has badly damaged relations between the CIA and the ISI, Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency. Some reports, quoting Pakistani intelligence officials, have suggested that the men Davis killed, Faizan Haider, 21, and Muhammad Faheem, 19, were ISI agents with orders to shadow Davis because he crossed an unspecified "red line".
A senior police official, however, confirmed American claims that the men were petty thieves investigators found stolen mobile phones on their bodies, as well as small amounts of foreign currency and illegal weapons but did not rule out an intelligence link.
A senior ISI official denied the dead men worked for the spy agency but admitted the CIA relationship had been badly damaged. "Their tactics of using good cop, bad cop do not work. We are a sovereign country and if they want to work with us, they need to develop a trusting relationship on the basis of equality. Being arrogant and demanding is not the way to do it," he said.
Tensions between the spy agencies have grown in recent months. The CIA Islamabad station chief was forced to leave in December after being named in a civil lawsuit, and the ISI was angered when its chief, General Shuja Pasha, was named in a New York lawsuit related to the 2008 Mumbai attacks.
Although the two spy services co-operate in the CIA's drone campaign along the Afghan border, there has not been a drone strike since 23 January the longest lull since June 2009. Experts are unsure whether both events are linked.
With the next hearing scheduled for 14 March, Davis awaits his fate in Kot Lakhpat jail in Lahore. Pakistani officials say they have taken exceptional measures to ensure his safety, including ringing the prison with paramilitary Punjab Rangers. The law minister, Sanaullah, said Davis was being kept in a "high security zone" and was receiving food from visitors from the US consulate.
Sanaullah said another 140 foreigners were in the same facility, many on drugs charges. Several press reports have speculated that the authorities worry the US could try to spring Davis in what one termed a "Hollywood-style sting".
"All measures for his security have been taken," said the ISI official. "He's as safe as can be
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists?

After having lost the war in Afghanistan and failing to recreate the Middle East map the USA is now at war with the entire world, even it's own people!. The last thing they need is a war with Pakistan but hey if they want it then first thing we should do is end their supplies to Afghanistan and support the Afghani Taliban, then see how they're killed like dogs on both sides of the Durrand line!

To eliminate our nukes has been their aim for the last twenty years for which a Pak-USA war is inevitable but i feel we're ready for this!.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: American who Sparked Diplomatic Crisis over Lahore Shooting was CIA Spy.Pakistanis still don't Believe?

While all eyes in the West are currently trained on the ongoing revolution taking place in Egypt, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned “grave” as it appears open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States.
Fueling this crisis, that the
SVR warns in their report has the potential to ignite a total Global War, was the apprehension by Pakistan of a 36-year-old American named Raymond Allen Davis (photo), whom the US claims is one of their diplomats, but Pakistani Intelligence Services (ISI) claim is a spy for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).


Pakistan, however, says that the two men Davis killed were ISI agents sent to follow him after it was discovered he had been making contact with al Qaeda after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan where the Pakistani Taliban and a dozen other militant groups have forged a safe haven and former CIA agent Tim Osman (also known as Osama bin Laden) is believed to be in hiding.


This is why when the enemy of Allah attacked the Prophet, Allah destroyed all their plotting. He said:
“They were plotting and Allah too was planning, and Allah is the Best of the planners” [8: 30]

 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: American who Sparked Diplomatic Crisis over Lahore Shooting was CIA Spy.Pakistanis still don't Believe?

bro,ABDALI
there is a thread name
[HI]Worth of a Pakistani life = 4 American Passports and 1 Crore Rupees (Raymond Davis)[/HI] in this form.

Who you are telling all these about raymond davis,
they dont care,every body is selfish,they think about themselves frst,
Baqioon, jinn kay jazbaat ubhray gaay hain unka koi wali waris naheen, woh too moosamee batair hain.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis was about to give Nuclear Bomb To Terrorists?

Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency. Some reports, quoting Pakistani intelligence officials, have suggested that the men Davis killed, Faizan Haider, 21, and Muhammad Faheem, 19, were ISI agents with orders to shadow Davis because he crossed an unspecified "red line".

A senior ISI official denied the dead men worked for the spy agency but admitted the
CIA relationship had been badly damaged. Tensions between the spy agencies have grown in recent months. The CIA Islamabad station chief was forced to leave in December 2010 after being named in a civil lawsuit.

Although the two spy services co-operate in the
CIA's drone campaign along the Afghan border, there has not been a drone strike since 23 January – the longest lull since June 2009. Experts are unsure whether both events are linked.

Several press reports have speculated that the authorities worry the US could try to spring Davis in what one termed a "Hollywood-style sting killing".

 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Drone Attacks completely stopped after Raymond Davis Issue - Did you notice that?

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IS this ours govt policy or Amreeki bullshitt,
What ours govt is doing against this brutality.
If rd is responsible for this,and not telling anything than use 3rd degree and he will start talking about everything he did in Pakistan.​
 
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