zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik

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Jiss kissee nay achee tarah awaam koo baywaqoof banaya woh hee sabsay achhaa hukmaran haota hay.
Magar sawal yeh hay keh kia waqaee ham baywaqoof hain yaa ban rahay hain,aoor banay walay HAMARAY HEE HUKMARAN HAIN.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik

They want to fool the public by saying he holds a diplomatic passport.Public reaction is very strong and so is The American pressure.Mark my word these spineless crooks will let him go !!!
 

bankalalookheti

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik


کون ہے یہ صادق سلیم؟ اس نے کیا یہ آرٹیکل کامران شفی کے ڈان میں چھپنے والے اس ارٹیکل سے متاثر ہو کے لکھا ہے؟ غیرت بریگیڈ اور باقی باتیں سب وہی ہیں اس صادق سلیم نے صرف کچھ آگے پیچھے کر دیا ہے اور ایک دو کہآنیوں کآ اضافہ کردیا ہے

Cutting off the nose

Kamran Shafi
February 1, 2011 (2 days ago)

BEING the rather unique people we are, as demonstrated by yours truly many a time in this space, we are proceeding to do just that: cutting off the (our) nose to spite the (our) face in the matter of Raymond Davis David.
He is alleged to be, variously, a spy, a Blackwater operative, a security guard and a US diplomat. There are as many stories about the man in our press as there are reporters in the newspapers, not one of them leading the reader to any conclusion. Ghairat Brigades
In just one day we are regaled by differing accounts in different newspapers: one saying David had overstayed his visa by two years, another telling us his visa was valid until 2012; one saying he was not a diplomat, yet another telling us that he was an `official`, and so on and so forth. I have been following this case since the day of the shooting, have read every word written about it, and have to say that I am most confused. Nothing makes sense at all a lot of which has to do with the conspiracy theorists and the and their spin quacks putting a spin on any aspect they can get their hands on. Motor cycle sawaron nein nikaley aur goray ko lootnain ki koshish ki jiss peh goray nein unnko goliaan marein gora
What I myself saw on the very day of the shooting, about two hours after the event, was the interview of a young man off the street, conducted by a loud and vociferous channel. When asked what he had seen the man said: pistol (The two motorcyclists drew their pistols to rob the foreigner [using the near-pejorative term , or Whitey] who shot them dead). This was repeated twice in a period of 30 or so minutes and then taken off air. This is what I saw and heard myself. It is pertinent to note that that young man has not been seen, nor heard from, again. Neither has any newspaper quoted what he said on record.
Far more than this, there are stories in the press that the police is hesitant to register cases of mobile phone and wallet snatching against the two, crimes that two people allege they committed a few hours before their encounter with David, for fear of a `backlash`. Ghairat Brigades
Is this in itself a case of the dishonestly trying to turn the situation into an ugly one for the government, and for generally queering the pitch even further for American-Pakistani official relations? Is this yet another conspiracy to throw yet another spanner in the works with regards to the war on terror? None of which, of course, is to say that the Americans have done what they should have done in the very first instance: give a clear statement on just who the man was, what the circumstances of the shooting were, and then stick to it.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, their holinesses are upping the ante on the alleged move to amend the anti-blasphemy laws despite the fact that the terrorised and scared government has foresworn any such intention. Indeed, their holinesses should take heart from the craven way in which the Senate chairman refused to allow Senator Nilofer Bakhtiar`s motion condemning the brutal murder of governor Salman Taseer, and from MQM Senator Abdul Khaliq Peerzada`s refusal to lead the Fateha. If the so-called secular parties refuse to even offer Fateha for the departed soul of a man who was (totally falsely) purported to be a blasphemer himself, what chances are there for the blasphemy law being changed/altered? This is politics, pure and simple, the protest meeting addressed by Maulana Fazlur Rehman, Munawwar Hassan, Maulana Samiul Haq, Qazi Hussain Ahmed and other worthies in Lahore on Sunday using both the Tahaffuze Namoos-i-Risalat campaign and the David affair to inflame the passions of the people. It is another matter, of course, that one of the WikiLeaks cables told us in clear words that Maulana Fazlur Rehman actually put himself up to the American ambassador as a possible Pakistani prime ministerial candidate. Ghairat Brigades
But going back to the David affair, it is astonishing to note that the so-called anti-America are using the most ludicrous examples to try and prove how the Americans have been unfair to Pakistan and other countries when it comes to observing the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. The two examples it gives most recently (Sunday, Jan 30) through stories in the press is of my friend Munir (Dopey) Akram allegedly assaulting his live-in girlfriend when he was our ambassador to the United Nations, and of a North Korean diplomat who was hauled up when he groped a woman in a public park. They actually refer to the second incident as `a minor case of very little significance`.
The fact of the matter is that if Munir Akram was not Pakistan`s ambassador to the UN and supported to the hilt by the government of Pakistan and by the extreme right media in this country, he would have faced a jail term, as would have the North Korean. These are not `minor cases of little significance` at all and sections of our mainstream press referring to them as such only goes to prove what misogynists they are. They should be grateful that the Americans helped us out of a very sticky situation.
In the instant case the law must take its course, David neither being treated harshly because he is an `ugly American`, nor being treated with deference just because he belongs to the country that keeps us in bread and tanks and F-16s. Let the whole, unvarnished truth come out and let it be released in the public domain.
Which reminds me: let those who are demanding that David be torn limb from limb for committing murder, also demand that Salman Taseer`s killer be tried in a court of law for his horrible crime. Let them demand too that future suicide bombers and their facilitators be exposed and hauled up to face the full force of the law. There is much that is wrong with our country which we can fix if we want to; merely latching on to events to divert the people`s attention simply will not do.
 

waleedhussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik

Assalam-o-alaikum
I think Ansar Abbasi was right yesterday that federal govt ready to let him go, & they will make the DIPLOMATIC ACCESS CARD in back dates..
Thus closing the case & this davis will go out of Pakistan in US PLANE under Diplomatic immunity..
But ALLAH knows best..
WAMA KARO WAMA KARALLAH WALLAHO KHAIRUL MAKIREEN..



Yes, the PPP goevernment is sleepless thinking how to exit Davis ... but a great problem here is for PMLN .... if they failed to detain Davis and later put the blame on PPP , they will loose popularity dramatically and more ane more will come towards Imran Khan ... this is a very tough test for PMLN
 

waleedhussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Davis holds diplomatic passport: Malik

We should be realistic ! one thing is for sure goverment have shown spine and he is still in custody . I am prettyt sure if there was an army doictator at the first place he would have not been arrested . I use to wonder y people says that worst democracy is better than dictatorship .but now i think pakistan is going in right direction . we should all support democracy. matter is in the court we should aLL RESPECT THAT


Dude this is not because of Zardari's democracy .... but beacuse of Independent media and Judiciary ONLY !!! evenh PMLN are biting nails on this ...
 

Waseem

Moderator
Staff member
Davis likely to be released in a few days: Officials


Pakistani officials in the US have said that Raymond Davis, the US consulate employee who killed two Pakistanis in Lahore last week, will be released within a few days, The Associated Press reported on Saturday.
The officials quoted by the agency say the court may order the release of Davis soon after going through the documents that the US embassy has submitted to prove Davis’ diplomatic status. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity calling the issue sensitive.
Raymond Davis claims to be a technical officer for the US consulate in Lahore.
The US embassy said the diplomat acted in self-defence when confronted by two armed men and had every reason to believe they meant to harm him, and said arresting the diplomat was a violation of international norms and the Vienna Convention.The embassy says Pakistan should recognise his diplomatic immunity and release him immediately.
Meanwhile, an initial investigation report prepared by police claims there is no evidence that Davis killed the two men in self-defence.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Davis likely to be released in a few days: Officials

Zardari has immunity ......
Americans have immunity.....

Only Pakistani like me has no immunity.

Rather will be killed only for saying this.
 

Pakistan_1st

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Davis likely to be released in a few days: Officials

Our Pakistani Diplomats are striped naked on U.S Airports for security checks... But This Son Of B***** will get away with murder of 2 innocents. Shame on our goverment.
 
Raymond Davis has links in South Waziristan

Admin kindly let it be a separate thread as it is the latest development and has not much in common with the previously submerged thread, thanks.






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Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Raymon Davis has links in South Waziristan: Investigation report

Tell chote Farooq to wake Najam Sethi sahib up.
 

Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Raymon Davis has links in South Waziristan: Investigation report

All he need is that usual Chithrol and cheera by only one "drawing room ki sair " by God he will admitt everything and will be willing to accept anything what our police tell him to accept .
 

ourpakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Raymon Davis has links in South Waziristan: Investigation report

Good job finding out, where are the other 74 American terrorists, lets find all the terrorist and hang them.
 

QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Raymon Davis has links in South Waziristan: Investigation report

No matter , still he is VVIP and will be given all VVIP protocol from Police Station to Lahore Airport.
I wont be surprise if Governor or Chief Minister accompanied him to the special aircraft.
 

ourpakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Raymon Davis has links in South Waziristan: Investigation report

all he need is that usual chithrol and cheera by only one "drawing room ki sair " by god he will admitt everything and will be willing to accept anything what our police tell him to accept .

wha kiah bola hae, use the one we will use on mush.
 

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