Benevolent and Visionary Sir Musharraf - Pakistan Flourished under his Policies - acceptance evolvin

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
@opinion_786
One simple question if you dont mind answering. How much do you get paid for all this effort you are doing? I will not like to expect any answer like muhib-e-watan or awam ka kherkhwah type crap please. You can answer it as a private msg and I give you my words, I will not share it on this forum.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
NRO did not elect in PPP and nor did NRO specifiy that Zardari has to become the President. Where does NRO say that? People elected in PPP and they selected Zardari.

You are absloutely misleading the readers. NRO allowed those who were implicated in foreign courts to come back and take part in Pakistan Politics scott free. Their cases were dropped under NRO ( Nation Ruin Ordinance) Duly signed by your beloved Dictator. You know well why Musharraf signed this ordinance. It was a plan to share the loot with other corrupt politicians beside the once which were already taking part under his own Government ( like of chuhdry Shujat,etc) . After seeing the fruit of this disastrous document, he fled the country when the bigger theif became too strong. ( Chooron ko perth gaye Moore)
 

tiger54

MPA (400+ posts)
atleast trust the figures that Kamran Khan gave us..he is a very neutral journalist and very credible!
now please (musharraf haters) open up ur little brains and try to find the difference between those numbers :)
if Musharraf was still in power than the economy would have got even better and the living even cheaper!
so sad some people support this ugly thug more than musharraf!
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have answered all your questions. Now if you would not mind, I want to ask you a question. "How did you measure that the economy collapsed"? What is collapse by your definition? And, I am all open to your valuable information. Regards

My Question is in very simple English, I never asked any question then my original one, which so far you have not answered, instead, you were piling up informations, which have nothing to do with my Question.

Simply say either you can't answer my Question, which I will repeat for you, "Why Pakistani economy collapsed immediately after Musharaf departure". if you would like to have this question to be translated in Urdu, I have facility of translation also.

But please this time only answer my question, or don't reply, as others did in past. lol
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
@opinion_786
One simple question if you dont mind answering. How much do you get paid for all this effort you are doing? I will not like to expect any answer like muhib-e-watan or awam ka kherkhwah type crap please. You can answer it as a private msg and I give you my words, I will not share it on this forum.

Aqeel813 All I will advise you, don't make it personal under any circumstances, if you have any concern, send them initially to whom you like,
 

aqeel813

Minister (2k+ posts)
Aqeel813 All I will advise you, don't make it personal under any circumstances, if you have any concern, send them initially to whom you like,

Abbasi sahab!
I did not make it personal at all. I might be in favor of some policies of musharraf as well, who knows. I simply asked what came into my mind due to such an effort this person is doing in gathering data and stuff and spending so much time on it. If you still feel any problem in my post, you can remove it or tell me, I will do it myself.
Regards
 

Junoon123

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I dont know what u peole drink while backing the most corrupt politicians,,,,, we no need to be drunk to back Musharraf but just to have a common sense to differentiate between black n white.

Ok lets review finance 101

This all happened because of easy credit. Money printed out of thin air.
Its really simple. Interest rate in Pakistan are about close to 22%, so lets say if you bring interest rate down to 8% and start to print and borrow money like a drunken sailor you can boost your economy four fold and thats exactly what Musharraf did.

The economy didn't expand it was just a bubble, When people borrow money to buy houses or cars or motorbike its not their money the money is borrowed from banks, bond holder etc.
Now ofcourse the bubble bursted because you can't pay your lendors back.

Simple analogy is when Musharaf came in to power the debt the debt was half and when he left the debt was doubled (This is money owed to others)

Hope this clears thing
Thanks
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
Abbasi sahab!
I did not make it personal at all. I might be in favor of some policies of musharraf as well, who knows. I simply asked what came into my mind due to such an effort this person is doing in gathering data and stuff and spending so much time on it. If you still feel any problem in my post, you can remove it or tell me, I will do it myself.
Regards
Thanks Bro, you just don't need to call anyone agent or what they are doing, or their interest, simply respond to their context.

Regards.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother, I would be more than willing to teach you Economics. However, as I have less time to do that. I would suggest that you leave the job of economist to them. The world is recording these figures.

For your guidance, however, I'll give you the figures recorded by IMF, World Bank and CIA Fact book. Considering that Pakistan's GDP has fallen to 2%.

IMF - $ 166.515 billion
World Bank - $ 166.545 billion
CIA Factbook - $ 166.500 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Teach me Economics, You Wish.
Unlike our Mr President, I do remember the Institution I earned my Masters Degree in Finance (MBA) and I can assure you that my father recieved more than value for money if Macro or Mirco subjects are under discussion.

I could see your unease as you keep changing the track. I don't care what happened to the world economies, all I am asking you to justify the GDP growth rate from base year to final year, simplest of task and let me give you a hint, there are two answers which can make this possible and Salman Shah claimed these two factors to juggle with figures.

I don't expect a runner from you like your leader.
 
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khan125

Guest
My Question is in very simple English, I never asked any question then my original one, which so far you have not answered, instead, you were piling up informations, which have nothing to do with my Question.

Simply say either you can't answer my Question, which I will repeat for you, "Why Pakistani economy collapsed immediately after Musharaf departure". if you would like to have this question to be translated in Urdu, I have facility of translation also.

But please this time only answer my question, or don't reply, as others did in past. lol

why pakistans economy did not collapse when musharraf was president.???????????
If figures are fake then why the economy did not collapse at musharraf's time.
 
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khan125

Guest
You are absloutely misleading the readers. NRO allowed those who were implicated in foreign courts to come back and take part in Pakistan Politics scott free. Their cases were dropped under NRO ( Nation Ruin Ordinance) Duly signed by your beloved Dictator. You know well why Musharraf signed this ordinance. It was a plan to share the loot with other corrupt politicians beside the once which were already taking part under his own Government ( like of chuhdry Shujat,etc) . After seeing the fruit of this disastrous document, he fled the country when the bigger theif became too strong. ( Chooron ko perth gaye Moore)

Then you elected this guy as your president well done geo zardariiiiiiiiiiii
 
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khan125

Guest
It is only those stubborn Dictator praising stooges of former dicator who will not answer the questions but rather pose another question. .
i think those who criticize musharraf don't want pakistan flourishing they want pakistan in a state where it was in NS's time or where it is now.
i do not find a question in your argument its just weeping on our fate ,which is not the topic here.
Just look at your above answer. I presented you the comparison to your neighbour enemy who has done wonders under the elected representation of the people of that country. while in Your country, thugs from the Army keep coming back and ruling the country like a kingdom. Funny yet, the same politicians you are lementing about were holding the ministries within the Dictatorial regimes . Why on earth you think, the Dictator would be dependent on the same corrupt Politicians, he so dearly kicked out ? It is all PR for the common people of Pakistan and defaming the political system.

its just your inferiority complex india has not done any wonders..........
i don't want to discuss what system we have and what we should have the topic here is not that.

your main focus is on sytem ,if you want to discuss systems create another thread for that.

The history of Pakistan has seen Dictators rule this country more than the civilians .They all screw up the country and then fled the country by striking deals with their masters . Nawaz Sharif indeed came back to Pakistan and was sent back again from the airport by the order of the King of Pakistan Musharraf. He was ruling the country like his own personal properties.And they all suckers do that.
best period was that of dictators except yahya khan ,go and have some reading on that.
again your problem is system which is not the topic here.
You who are promoting and propagating in favour of Musharraf has not seen how much people of Pakistan hate this foreign slave. The pit we are in is the consequesnces of his blind slavery to foreign powers. This pathetic piece of trash could not even stay in his own country after screwing it up badly.He took off never to return back. Good ridden, you can keep him, west can keep him and other mother fathers can keep him as well...
only narrow minded and backward people hate him.in my view he was the best thing that happened to pakistan.if still someone is screwed then he wanted to be screwed.

And your funny talk about recognizing and respecting the people's mandate in Nawaz Sharif's case. What a twisted mentality of dictator's praiser. Why your beloved Dictator didn't think about it before occupying the Prime Minister's office by sending thugs to arrest him ? Would he cared about his public Mandate and thought about respecting the vote of people of Pakistan ? Go get a life, you looser.

it was NS who tried to dismiss him without any reason and tried to kill him while he ws in a plane.
as far as mandate is concerned you could have seen that when people were distributing sweets when NS was kicked out.
actually NS tried to become ameer ul momineen but musharraf came and kicked him up from his dream.
 

mangoman

Voter (50+ posts)
Very nice, mushraf nawas shreef(meer jaffer) Shabaz Shreef (meer sadiq) and chorr zardari They all have one Boss .....!
 

abbasiali

Minister (2k+ posts)
why pakistans economy did not collapse when musharraf was president.???????????
If figures are fake then why the economy did not collapse at musharraf's time.

Hahaha,

Now you are lost and confused what to answer,

Bro don't try to play with words, simply answer my Question, or say you don't have answer.
 

opinion_786

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@opinion_786. One simple question if you dont mind answering. How much do you get paid for all this effort you are doing? I will not like to expect any answer like muhib-e-watan or awam ka kherkhwah type crap please. You can answer it as a private msg and I give you my words, I will not share it on this forum.

As you would like to hear your version of answer, I am at loss.

Pakistan First!
 

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