The wealthy Pakistani Generals

kashmiri

MPA (400+ posts)
The Army also did this, does anyone remember??


I will say do not involve such videos in it because army is not very good in photo session, I wonder Politician or MQM will get more marks here.

We all know army is very good in all domains except on borders and deface area
And keep your self in touch with title

As far as Jawan are concern they are just like us (b civilian)
We are taking about Genl and their Luxury lifestyle
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Cuase you dont have a responce. Its a very simple thing. I will salute the army once they change how they behave with ordinary pakistanis. Consider every citizen as much respectful like there own army guys. This is the least they could do if not more. And what i am asking is not more at all. We pay them and they cant even respect the payers?
People of pakistan has the right to get elect any one. Not these blood suckers.

I agree with u my brother. I am not a supporter of Army after Lal Masjid seige, but we should not look all of them with one eye. I always say there are good and bad people everywhere so stop disgracing all those good just because of bad people. And u say jawans are also responsible tell me if they raise their voice dont u know what happens to people of low rank not only in army but in every organization in Pakistan? A story is going on in kist war silsilay section of akhbar e jehan and the name is ubaaal (a short summary, a physics professor refuses to illegally increase the numbers of a police inspector's son after exams and in reply that inspector takes revenge of this by arresting his innocent son). Read that if u have time i dont say it is true story but situation is not different than that in our country and it is because of corruption and corrupt leaders. Dont u know that if jawans raise their voice they suffer from court marshal etc... and nobody listen to them because they dont have higher contacts than those bad and corrupt part of the army/police/other organizations? in our country top level rankers r like kings and lower ones are like slaves so whatever masters say slaves have to obey it simple rule is that because we all are corrupt. Everybody is waiting for a chance to loot us and flee. U cant deny this fact because for them there is no law and order, law and order is only for poor people even if they are innocent they will have to suffer against rich people. I am not in favor of their luxurious style of living because they dont deserve it. Our jawans deserve more than that because they do real efforts in every crisis but my point is that do not mix our honorable jawans with those generals.
 
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kashmiri

MPA (400+ posts)
Our jawans deserve more than that because they do real efforts in every crisis but my point is that do not mix our honorable jawans with those generals.
Khan I am agreed with this .... problem is in Army's establishment
And this is what army has to purify, on the other hand ALLAH has a way to purify and it has started
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
I will say do not involve such videos in it because army is not very good in photo session, I wonder Politician or MQM will get more marks here.

We all know army is very good in all domains except on borders and deface area
And keep your self in touch with title

As far as Jawan are concern they are just like us (b civilian)
We are taking about Genl and their Luxury lifestyle

Mere bhai, its not about politics here. The Jawans follow orders send by the Generals and dont forget the generals were Jawans too once. Army is the only institute left where there is still a little merit and is the only standing pillar of Pakistan. Do you want to become the tool that destroys it?
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I would add one more thing. The live and current example of telling truth and standing against injustice is Mr. Shah Mehmood Qureshi.
 

kashmiri

MPA (400+ posts)
Mere bhai, its not about politics here. The Jawans follow orders send by the Generals and dont forget the generals were Jawans too once. Army is the only institute left where there is still a little merit and is the only standing pillar of Pakistan. Do you want to become the tool that destroys it?
If you consider this as duty of Army then our nation (civilian) work more than any one in earth quake , flood relief etc etc. and if you consider army (bigsmile) only standing pillar then tell me, howcome Mushy lives luxury life and where did earth quake relief fund go.

Point here is, wealthy dictator Gens, and those standing pillar always took stand by US orders, do you want me to add Hamid Guls interview confessing this.......
Afsoos ka sharam un ko nahi aati
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
If you dont support Army its good. But if you only and only dont support them cause of Lal masjid then its wrong. Cause they have not only done that but they have created living hell to almost half of pakistan. They use us, they feed some people like the lal masjid guys and then they will take the benefit.
Another thing about me criticizing the jawans is cause they are equaly responsible. Why cant they not obey the orders? Is pakistan ahead of them or there bloody generals? and who is paying them? If they dont have the courage to speak the truth and be on the right side then they should be ashamed and they should take the blame. Even a lowest level jawan is earning more then a graduate in pakistan and all the benefits are rest aside.
Honestly Army should have taken a lot more than what they take from pakistan but if they would have done there job right. They never do that. They never fought well. They killed thousands of pakistanis. They are responsible for pakistan being in such a situation. See any garison and see how they treat civilians. Why ??? We are the ones who are paying them. And they should respect each and every pakistani. To heck with there luxury and to heck with there frauds.
I agree with u my brother. I am not a supporter of Army after Lal Masjid seige, but we should not look all of them with one eye. I always say there are good and bad people everywhere so stop disgracing all those good just because of bad people. And u say jawans are also responsible tell me if they raise their voice dont u know what happens to people of low rank not only in army but in every organization in Pakistan? A story is going on in kist war silsilay section of akhbar e jehan and the name is ubaaal (a short summary, a physics professor refuses to illegally increase the numbers of a police inspector's son after exams and in reply that inspector takes revenge of this by arresting his innocent son). Read that if u have time i dont say it is true story but situation is not different than that in our country and it is because of corruption and corrupt leaders. Dont u know that if jawans raise their voice they suffer from court marshal etc... and nobody listen to them because they dont have higher contacts than those bad and corrupt part of the army/police/other organizations? in our country top level rankers r like kings and lower ones are like slaves so whatever masters say slaves have to obey it simple rule is that because we all are corrupt. Everybody is waiting for a chance to loot us and flee. U cant deny this fact because for them there is no law and order, law and order is only for poor people even if they are innocent they will have to suffer against rich people. I am not in favor of their luxurious style of living because they dont deserve it. Our jawans deserve more than that because they do real efforts in every crisis but my point is that do not mix our honorable jawans with those generals.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
We as a nation have never understood how army has acted in our country. Even right now so many ignorant people think army is a very good organization.
But the times are changing and i am happy people know what a mess army has created. Insha allah once article 6 is invoked and few generals arses are kicked they will come back into senses.
Thats the only way to teach them a lesson. And we as a nation should never ever follow any sick general coming into power.
Khan I am agreed with this .... problem is in Army's establishment
And this is what army has to purify, on the other hand ALLAH has a way to purify and it has started
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sharam kiun ayegee. In sab ka baap hai na america. The biggest besharam Musharaf who tried his level best for 8 years to make pakistanis take off there clothes and become westernize. The sicko mentality same like zia made every one cover up in burqa. For heaven sake let us live as we do. We dont need your ideas let us live in peace.
If you consider this as duty of Army then our nation (civilian) work more than any one in earth quake , flood relief etc etc. and if you consider army (bigsmile) only standing pillar then tell me, howcome Mushy lives luxury life and where did earth quake relief fund go.

Point here is, wealthy dictator Gens, and those standing pillar always took stand by US orders, do you want me to add Hamid Guls interview confessing this.......
Afsoos ka sharam un ko nahi aati
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Our very genious generals has always been creating some new group in pakistan for there own reasons.
They created MQM
They created Taliban
They created all the militant organizations
They supported all these militant organizations.
They are still supporting lashkar
All of these groups have been responsible for killing of thousands of pakistanis. So we should say Army is 100% responsible for all this killing? Offcourse yes. They are the one to be blamed.
Why isnt Nawaz Sharif in this list? Wasnt he created by Army? Wasnt he Zia-ul-Haq's favorite? Didnt he take ministries from Zia? Why do you forget all this:
"member of the Punjab Advisory Council under President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq. He served as the Minister of Finance and Minister of Sports"
"two consecutive terms as Chief Minister of Punjab (April 9, 1985 - May 31, 1988)"
"From 1988 to August 1990, he became the Caretaker Chief Minister after Zia-ul-Haq dissolved the assemblies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawaz_Sharif

Come on, dont be a hypocrite and admit that Nawaz Sharif was also brought and nourished by Army.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Now have the courage to say Imran is doing wrong by accepting everything from army. Do the favour if you have what it takes to say the right thing.
Why isnt Nawaz Sharif in this list? Wasnt he created by Army? Wasnt he Zia-ul-Haq's favorite? Didnt he take ministries from Zia? Why do you forget all this:
"member of the Punjab Advisory Council under President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq. He served as the Minister of Finance and Minister of Sports"
"two consecutive terms as Chief Minister of Punjab (April 9, 1985 - May 31, 1988)"
"From 1988 to August 1990, he became the Caretaker Chief Minister after Zia-ul-Haq dissolved the assemblies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawaz_Sharif

Come on, dont be a hypocrite and admit that Nawaz Sharif was also brought and nourished by Army.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Now have the courage to say Imran is doing wrong by accepting everything from army. Do the favour if you have what it takes to say the right thing.
First reply to what i said, accept the facts i quoted above or reject them so i know where you stand.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Already did that arslan. I aint a hypocrat like you. so i dont mind saying what i feel like. It wil show up. when ever i post it says it will be viewed by moderator.
First reply to what i said, accept the facts i quoted above or reject them so i know where you stand.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Already did that arslan. I aint a hypocrat like you. so i dont mind saying what i feel like. It wil show up. when ever i post it says it will be viewed by moderator.
You didnt reply to my question, do you or do you not believe that Nawaz Sharif is the creation of Army and he came into politics with Zia-ul-Haq's help and took ministries from him?
Also tell me that if Punjab government is involved in Raymond Davis case then do you think PMLN deserves to be in government after this treason?

Dont dodge the question, give a straight reply.
 

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