Salary and Benefits Comparison of Doctors and Army Officers

[samar]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Your point are very valid but you must understand the motive behind such information. Whenever information is presented out of context it means there are sinister designs behind it.

jus to add some points to your list:

Army officers and jawans are on call 24/7

50% reduction in air fare is only for two air travel tickets within Pakistan in a year.

Average wait time for any officer or Jawan to get a residence in a new posting is 6 months.

Every three years officers and jawans are posted out to a new station and thus their family with them uprooting all friendships and schooling of their children.
Transfers make it very difficult for the children to get admissions in school in the middle of the school term thus the need for Army Public schools.

Army officers and jawans are constantly risking their life. They are called by the civil government to help in any calamity, and they can not say no.

Many areas that the Army officers and jawans serve at even in the peace time are called hard areas example being Siachin and that is a must for any officer who wants a carreer in the Army. Areas in Azad Kashmir, remote areas in Sindh and Baluchistan, Gilgit and punjab.

The docors serving in Army have to follow these people for they need medical cover all the time.

I am sure all the points will be considered but I am also sure that a lot of nonsensical stuff is about to fly!

Who abuses democracy????? doctors or army
who is above the law????? doctors or army
who has created terrorist groups?????? doctors or army
who gets 80% of our budget???? doctors or army

baki rahey jan qurbaan krney vali baat to 4 dafa to apna hi mulk fatah kia he abhy kuch mehdood jang he pehley to kaiee saal muft k mazaey letey rahey
Kia kabi army valo ko police valey aise treat kr saktey hain ?????????

there is no point comparing doctors who are the most talented people in our society with army people.

 

[adnan_swati]

in fact i never wished that i will answer a post from an haterate creator person like adnan swatee. he is the one who always go against Pak army. as i had mentioned earlier as well that he seems to be working for India or for such country who is not friendly to us. let me clerify some points. first of all i agree to all points mentioned by STAR GAZER
scondly now min requirement is 50 or 60 % in total.paid education is available to both as govt spends hundreds of thousend on doctor's training and charges very less fee. discount on air is twice a year because army men or officers r posted away from homes and this facility is avail to all ranks. no free messing at all. they have to pay for a hot bucket of water as well what to talk of free food etc. special messing is avail to both. every where there r mess for doctors as well. reserved seats r available to both. there is no special intrest rate for any army man in any bank but it is avail for politicians and CHAHEETAY of politicians in power. no saperate office is alloted to any officer up to the rank of major unless it is his duty requirement.it is same for doctors. same way no phone facilty is saperately provided up to the rank of majors unless it is duty or appointment demands. i hope i have made it clear for my friends on this forum. what ever i have submitted is with authentication and to the best of my knowledge except for an idiot ADNAN SWATEE>

i don't know which army are you talking about. i m talking about Pakistan army
no reserved seats for doctors in universities at all.you are wrong here.
i didn't say free messing. i sad messing facility which is not available to doctors at all.you are wrong here as well
askari bank gives them facility for special interest rate. doctors don't have this facility. you are wrong again .
there are dozen of govt. departments when people get transferred. they don't get discount on air tickets. you are totally wrong here again

 

[rana14801]

i don't know which army are you talking about. i m talking about Pakistan army
no reserved seats for doctors in universities at all.you are wrong here.
i didn't say free messing. i sad messing facility which is not available to doctors at all.you are wrong here as well
askari bank gives them facility for special interest rate. doctors don't have this facility. you are wrong again .
there are dozen of govt. departments when people get transferred. they don't get discount on air tickets. you are totally wrong here again

i m also talking about Pakistan army. i m authority on it being part of this army. and we have reserved seats for all those who r son or daughters of doctors. if u do not know i cannot hel;p it. as regards askri bank, as u must be knowing that it is being run by army and if they provide some concession to their own family members as army provides priority in admissions in FG or army public schools to the kids of serving or retired personels,why should u be burning on it. ask doctors to get orgnised and open their bank or schools.army or armed forces people get posting or transfers on as required basis and these facilties r provided so that their children must not suffer.sylabus is one all over Pakistan and if page number or lesson number .....so and so is being tought today at a school in punjab or any other place of Pakistan, the same is tought in all army schools of Pakistan on the same day. planing has been done so that if some parants get transfered during a session their childeren must not suffer at next station. so if u do not have enough knowledge on a subject then do not become idiot by being stuboren minded.

 

[mramzaan]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Then why to become doctor ?

Dear pakistanis
all this discussion is in a wrong direction
Pakistan needs a healthy and educated nation which is not possible without giving teachers and doctors a status which they deserve like other civilized nations in the world. In our country most of our budget goes in an extremely wrong direction, misused by politicians, army and civil beurocracy ( this is one reason that many people dont like to give tax). As their kids and families dont get their education or health from the general government schools and hospitals so this group is least bothered about them. this triaca of evil will never change their ways unless we stand up and struggle for it and I am seeing a bloodshed in the future on this issue.

 

[M_Adnan.L]

Pakistani Police and Pakistani doctors ( excluding those doctors practicing privately) have similar fate! Both are under paid yet people expect them to become saviors of their lives, health and property!

 

[M_Adnan.L]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Across the world, Doctors and even pharmacists are highly paid but unfortunately in our country they are least paid!

 

[usm100]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Who in the world is this thread starter??? How dare he compared our army to any one??? No one can get more benefits then army in pakistan.
And no body should be given a right to talk about Army priviledges. Not at all. They are holy cow and pakistan was made just to serve the army and its needs.
So to heck with every one who even questions what army is getting and how much they benefit. And how a even a major owns millions. They have every right and we should not questions them please understand. We are just here to feed there bellies.

Jawans have free medical treatment for life, their children get same education benifits as that of an officer in any govt school.
Jawans are also working in all those companies and number of jawans working in these companies is more than that of officer.

lastly you have pointed out general benifits ???? no you have just shown your lack of knowledge thats why you do not want to discus it further. any way ...i ll reply your comments tomorrow now.

 

[usm100]

Hahaha see now you are indian agent just cause you questioned pakistan army . How dare you???
Dont write anything or they send in the army to capture indian agents and keep you away for years with out a trial.
Army is our holy cow and they dont take any undue advantages at all. The most respected people in pakistan. Its another thing that last days of musharaf people started comparing dogs with them. But who cares. Public is jaahil.. the only inteligent people who can run the country is our pakistan army. Mujahidoon and shaheedon ki army. My lord what a crap. This Rana guy is gona get it from me man. I am holding tight

i don't know which army are you talking about. i m talking about Pakistan army
no reserved seats for doctors in universities at all.you are wrong here.
i didn't say free messing. i sad messing facility which is not available to doctors at all.you are wrong here as well
askari bank gives them facility for special interest rate. doctors don't have this facility. you are wrong again .
there are dozen of govt. departments when people get transferred. they don't get discount on air tickets. you are totally wrong here again

 

[usm100]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

True.. its a dishonour for Doctors to be compared to army.. They are sucking the blood of pakistan for 65 years and they will keep doing it till article 6 is invoked. Thats one of the best ways to get them back into there senses

Who abuses democracy????? doctors or army
who is above the law????? doctors or army
who has created terrorist groups?????? doctors or army
who gets 80% of our budget???? doctors or army

baki rahey jan qurbaan krney vali baat to 4 dafa to apna hi mulk fatah kia he abhy kuch mehdood jang he pehley to kaiee saal muft k mazaey letey rahey
Kia kabi army valo ko police valey aise treat kr saktey hain ?????????

there is no point comparing doctors who are the most talented people in our society with army people.

 

[adnan_swati]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

True.. its a dishonour for Doctors to be compared to army.. They are sucking the blood of pakistan for 65 years and they will keep doing it till article 6 is invoked. Thats one of the best ways to get them back into there senses

its totally agree with you. you have answered very comprehensively.

 

[dukelondon]

Army is mulk ko kha gaii. For other countries we say India ki Army, US ki army, UK ki army. For Pakistan we say Army ka Pakistan!!!!!!

 

[usm100]

Very true. But i thank to media for makin us aware of what has happened. People are not able to eat for two times and they are being fed with our money. We pay them and they kill us. We pay them and they can take any one into there torture cells. We pay them and they use that money to install politicians they like. What kind of sick mentality is that?

Army is mulk ko kha gaii. For other countries we say India ki Army, US ki army, UK ki army. For Pakistan we say Army ka Pakistan!!!!!!

 

[adnan_swati]

Army is mulk ko kha gaii. For other countries we say India ki Army, US ki army, UK ki army. For Pakistan we say Army ka Pakistan!!!!!!

look at the progress that India is making today .its all because of democracy .the world knows it but still we wont accept

 

[adnan_swati]

Very true. But i thank to media for makin us aware of what has happened. People are not able to eat for two times and they are being fed with our money. We pay them and they kill us. We pay them and they can take any one into there torture cells. We pay them and they use that money to install politicians they like. What kind of sick mentality is that?

media has not highlighted it as they should. they are also afraid. u forgot what happened when jang reporter umer cheema published a news against army

 

[pakiz]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

ap ny kaha k doctors apny patient to thek tarha treat nhi karty, to bhai jab 1 doctor k liey 100-120 patients hon gay aur sab k sab ap k sar py a k khary hon gay, jesa k sab janty hain k Pak mein que mei khary hony ka riwaj nhi hai to doctors kisi ko b kesy thek tarha dekh sakta, dusri bat internationally kisi sy b poch lo 1 doctor ko agar daily puray din mn 30-35 sy ziada patient dekhny parhen to yeh doctor aur patient dono k sath nainsafi hai. han disaster ya emergency conditions mein dekhna alag bat hai.
ap ny kaha k army har waqt risk py hoti hai lekin doctors nhi to ap ko btata chalon k army sirf us wqt risk py hoti hai jab hamsaey mulk k sath talukat ziada kharab hon aur us wqt b jo army border py hoti hai wo ziada risk py hoti hai. aur doctor har wqt risk py hota hai, us k pas har wqt criminals, murderer aur robers aty hain, Medico-legal cases mein usy threat kia jata hai k agar us ki mrzi ka case nhi likha to goli sy ura dain gy, aur had to tab hoti hai jab dono mukhalif parties usy yehi dhamki deti hain, yahan btata chalon k wahan doctor k protection k liey koi nhi hota, not even single armed guard. doctors ko postmortem karny k bad court k chakar katny parhty hain.
log serious conditions mein patients ko ly k aty hain aur atay hi filmy scene creat karty hain, DOCTOR AGAR MERY MAREZ KO KCH HUA TO TUMHAIN NHI ************************************************ GY, yahan yeh mat sochiey ga k un ka koi apna bemar hai is liey emotional ho jaty hain, q k marez k sahi lawaheqen us wqt dua mei lagy hoty hain, yeh dhamkian mohalay k ya kch relatives number bnany k liey dety hn. aksar recieved dead ko agar ap dead declare ka do to phr mar khany k liey b tyar ho jao, yeh hai doctors k daily risks.
lekin in sab baton k khilaf agar doctor awaz uthaey to, doctor parha likha tabka hai unhn yeh bat zeeb nahi deti.
to apny haq k liey awaz uthana parhy likhy hony ki hi nishani hai.

 

[doctor]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Nice and fit reply. Keep it up. We love pak army

 

[alpha]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

i have just presented you with the table. there is no hate or love . if you think i m wrong prove it

Prove you what? first your data is wrong, secondly i told you earlier how can you compare a doctor with an army officer??? with totally a different Job description ? This shows how much you know about the things

you are just doing it on behest of someone.. to malign the armed forces

 

[adnan_swati]

Re: salary and benefits comparison of doctors and army officers. a must read table

Prove you what? first your data is wrong, secondly i told you earlier how can you compare a doctor with an army officer??? with totally a different Job description ? This shows how much you know about the things

you are just doing it on behest of someone.. to malign the armed forces

i m comparing them considering the fact that they are both grade 17 officers . plus i am comparing considering the fact that defense, health and education are pillars of a society and telling people how much importance is given to each one. and please i am waiting for anyone to prove me wrong.please point out

 

[Nathookhan]

Well doctors in civil are definitely under under paid but doctors in army by and large get the same benefits as other officers.They get Rs 500 extra as non practicing allowance which was Rs 500 in 1971 and it's still Rs 500 in 2011.Globally it's 1/3 of basic pay in other countries. Doctors have learnt to sacrifice for the country by not demanding more. However most below rank of full Colonel were not given defence plots till 1999. When Mush was COAS and President he allowed allottment to doctors as well as his niece is an army doctor.

For civilian doctors,I would advise not to dream of good life in Pakistan. Try going abroad. To start off UAE/Saudia is a good option. If you can make it to USA/Canada/UK and other Western countries, doctors are highly paid.Those are egalitarian sociecities;so everyone is equal but they keep doctors happy because they need them. In pakistan,govt doesn't need them but masses do but govt is not willing to pay good salaries as bureacrates and politicians go abroad for treatment and funds become available immediately.So why keep doctors happy back home.

I would alos point out most general with few exceptions in past few decades,seek treatment in military hospitals.Specialist doctors in military hospitals are good but general duty are a waste of human resource as they mostly do admin jobs which a non-medical person can do too. They are not welll trained and when they retire they are hardly doctors;rather they would boast of being admnistrators. What a waste of national exchequer and human resource. Things are different in other armies except Bangladesh and India. Doctors in modern countries see patient and are proud of being doctors. If they are administrators;then they are specialists first.Hence habve better know how of what's best for patients than the ones who never see any aptients after graduation.