religious extremism must be tackled

[alimohsan52]

No one can dare tear down anything ...Inshallah the Mizaar is there and no one has the authority to tear down any mazars ANYWHERE in the world Let alone Pakistan ...a country that was made by the hard work of Auliya Allah swt !:)

Allah u Akbar !

Ya RasullAllah pbuh !

Ya Ali ra

Ya Ghousia ! ra

(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

I second what you have said.

 

[Sohraab]

@muslimpak

Please say Pakistan Zindabad?

wah re alimohsan52 kia khoob twist karte ho posts ko .. ;)

bohut fit reply kiye hain aap ko Muslimpak ne

main ne sirf 2 pages read kiyee hain abhi tak Mr alimohsan52 , Tight Ragraa diya hai aap ko MuslimPak ne

 

[Sohraab]

I thought you were a decent person. However, you are backing these people who want to knock down the Mazar of Hazrat Quaid E Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah R.A.

No brother i am not a Decent person

lovers of Pakistan army , Followers of Zaid Hamid and Supporters of Pervez mushharaf are the only decent people left in Pakistan

 

[alimohsan52]

No brother i am not a Decent person

lovers of Pakistan army , Followers of Zaid Hamid and Supporters of Pervez mushharaf are the only decent people left in Pakistan

Who is talking about the army, Ziad Hamid or Pervert Musharraf here?
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This is about Najdi maniacs who want to knock down Mazar e quaid.

 

[Sohraab]

Who is talking about the army, Ziad Hamid or Pervert Musharraf here?
:13::13::13:

This is about Najdi maniacs who want to knock down Mazar e quaid.

So you want that no one discuss your munaafqat and your favourtism to your beloveds in this thread ???

only u have right to point out fingers towards others ???

 

[Unicorn]

Any views should be tolerated no matter how extreme they are. It is the violence that should not be tolerated.

The gentleman's avatar clearly indicate what line of thinking he subscribe to.

 

[Sohraab]

Who is talking about the army, Ziad Hamid or Pervert Musharraf here?
:13::13::13:

This is about Najdi maniacs who want to knock down Mazar e quaid.

Tum woh banday ho ke agar Imran khan ka Election beech main na hota to tum abhi Tahir Ul Padri ke saath kharay hote

I know you very well

 

[alimohsan52]

Any views should be tolerated no matter how extreme they are. It is the violence that should not be tolerated.

The gentleman's avatar clearly indicate what line of thinking he subscribe to.

What he is suggesting would mean that all Mazaars of saints Ajmer Sharif and other places of sufi saints would be destroyed.

That is ultimately going to lead to violence.

 

[Unicorn]

What he is suggesting would mean that all Mazaars of saints Ajmer Sharif and other places of sufi saints would be destroyed.

That is ultimately going to lead to violence.

He can share his views and if he can convince the enough people to amend the constitution than there is no need of violence. The only problem is when minority pick up guns instead of persuasion.

 

[حکایت جنوں]

Building mausoleums are allowed in Islam...How will you justify all these Ahadith !!

1) It is in Hadith - Narrated Abu Bakr bin 'Aiyash (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ): Sufyan at-Tammar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) told me that he had seen the Grave of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم)elevated and convex. (Bukhari - Book #23, Hadith #473).
All Muslims of the world know that the three pious graves inside Masjid-e-Nabawi (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) are elevated, considerably higher from the ground. These remain the same from the earliest times as reported in the above Hadith.


(2) It is in Hadith - Narrated Al-Qasim ibn Muhammad ibn AbuBakr(رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) : I said to Ummul Momineen Aisha (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہا)! Mother, show me the Grave of the Apostle of Allah (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) and his two Companions (رضئ اللھ تعالی عنہم). She showed me three Graves which were neither high nor low, but were spread with soft red pebbles in an open space (in the secured room). (Abu Dawood Book #20, Hadith #3214).

The above Hadith nails the lies of Wahhabis / Salafis / Deobandis and their like minded groups. The Wahhabis have destroyed and flattened the graves (without a trace) of all family members of Prophet Mohammad(صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) Sahabah(رضئ اللھ تعالی عنہم اجمعین ), Imams and Awliya Allah. There were hundreds of thousands pious graves of Sahabah in Arabian peninsula. Now, there is none available.
There is no Hadith or Quranic Verse which saysthat the Graves of the family members of Prophet Mohammad (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم), Sahabah(رضئ اللھ تعالی عنہم اجمعین ) should be destroyed and flattened to the ground without a trace.

(3) It is in Hadith - Narrated by Abu Dawood and al-Bayhaqi in al-Kubra (3:412) with fair chains. Ibn Hajar, Talkhis al-Habir (2:134) andIbn al-Mulaqqin, Tuhfat al-Muhtaj (2:29): "Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم)asked a man (Sahabi) to place a rock on top of Ibn Maz`un's (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) Grave. When he was unable to move it (as the rock was too large), Allah's Apostle (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) rolled up his sleeves and helped him and the whiteness of his arms was visible (to everyone). Ibn Maz`un (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) was the first of the Muhajirin buried in Baqi al-Gharqad. Hadhrat Ibrahim (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ), the Prophet's (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) son, was buried next to him. (Abu Dawood, al-Bayhaqi, Ibn Hajar, Ibn al-Mulaqqin).
The above Hadith was also mentioned by Bukhari under Chapter titled 'Stalk on the top of the Grave'.
Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Bari (3:256=1959 ed. 3:223): "Al-Bukhari narrated this Hadith with its (sound) chain in al-Tarikh al-Saghir (1:42) "


The above Hadith clearly establishes the fact that it is Sunnah to make the graves of Sahabah and Awliya Allah higher and elevated from the ground and prominent to keep them as memorials for the following generations. It is also important to visit these pious graves for Dua. If you remove these important memorials, then you will deprive the entire Ummah of the Dua of these pious souls.

Mujhe aap ki is baat se ittefaq hai keh Aulia ke mazaraat banaane mei koi harj nahi. Mujhe alimohsan52 ki baat se bhi koi ikhtilaaf nahi keh Quaid e Azam ka mazar ghair Ismlami nahi. Aakhir hamare beloved Nabi pbuh ka mazar bhi elevated aur buland hai jise kisi ko :naooz: dhaane ki himmat aur jurrat nahi hai. Lekin aulia ke in mazarat per hone wali tamam practices thik nahi. In mazaraat per chars se ley ker intehai shirkia aamal tak kiye jaate hain. Yeh sab kuch mein apni aankhon se dekh chuka hoon. Aur yeh practices Islam ke tamam makatib e fikr ke tehet na jaez hain. Aur in practices ki Islah bhi usi maktab e fikr ke ulama ker sakte hain jin ke maanane wale in mazaraat per jaate hain. Meri nazar mein agar in mazarat per chars, ***** aur shirkia aamal na ho rahe hote to yeh shiddat pasand soch bhi na ubharti keh in mazaraat ko dha do. Mera khyal hai ham sab ko apni apni islah kerni chahiey

 

[حکایت جنوں]

No one can dare tear down anything ...Inshallah the Mizaar is there and no one has the authority to tear down any mazars ANYWHERE in the world Let alone Pakistan ...a country that was made by the hard work of Auliya Allah swt !:)

Allah u Akbar !

Ya RasullAllah pbuh !

Ya Ali ra

Ya Ghousia ! ra

(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

Wese aik baat to bataen keh aap Nabi e Kareem pbuh ke baad Hazrat Ali ke naam ka nara lagate hain. Why not for Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Usman????

 

[Pakola Khi]

The thread started has dubious intentions. The intention stinks similar to his avatar.

Can you please name credible person who wanted to blow up Jinnah's Mazar?

 

[iceburg]

Dawa to aap ka bhee eslah karney walon mein sey honey ka hay. Aap sirf ye hi bata dain k emaan hota kia hay? kahin aap bhee to inn mein se to nhen:astagh:

bhole insaan ... islah kerne ka dawa ... plus ... islah k naam pe fassad kerna ... ye donon cheezain jis main hon.gi wo following Quranic verse ka subject matter hai... And these two qualities clearly point to Talban and supporter companies like JI

[FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]اور جب اُن سےکہاجاتاہےکہ فساد مت کرو زمین میں توکہتےہیں کہ ہم تو اصلاح ہی کرنےوالے ہیں۔ (۱۱) [/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]یاد رکھوبےشک یہی لوگ مفسدہیں لیکن وہ اس کاشعورنہیں رکھتے۔ (۱۲)
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[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمۡ لَا تُفۡسِدُواْ فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّمَا نَحۡنُ مُصۡلِحُونَ (١١)[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]أَلَآ إِنَّهُمۡ هُمُ ٱلۡمُفۡسِدُونَ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَشۡعُرُونَ (١٢)

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[insaan]

Wese aik baat to bataen keh aap Nabi e Kareem pbuh ke baad Hazrat Ali ke naam ka nara
lagate hain. Why not for Hazrat Abu Bakr, Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Usman????

?????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?? ??

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=422221437850215

 

[alimohsan52]

Mujhe aap ki is baat se ittefaq hai keh Aulia ke mazaraat banaane mei koi harj nahi. Mujhe alimohsan52 ki baat se bhi koi ikhtilaaf nahi keh Quaid e Azam ka mazar ghair Ismlami nahi. Aakhir hamare beloved Nabi pbuh ka mazar bhi elevated aur buland hai jise kisi ko :naooz: dhaane ki himmat aur jurrat nahi hai. Lekin aulia ke in mazarat per hone wali tamam practices thik nahi. In mazaraat per chars se ley ker intehai shirkia aamal tak kiye jaate hain. Yeh sab kuch mein apni aankhon se dekh chuka hoon. Aur yeh practices Islam ke tamam makatib e fikr ke tehet na jaez hain. Aur in practices ki Islah bhi usi maktab e fikr ke ulama ker sakte hain jin ke maanane wale in mazaraat per jaate hain. Meri nazar mein agar in mazarat per chars, ***** aur shirkia aamal na ho rahe hote to yeh shiddat pasand soch bhi na ubharti keh in mazaraat ko dha do. Mera khyal hai ham sab ko apni apni islah kerni chahiey

Every sect has the right to practice their beliefs, no one has the right to tie suicide belts and blow up mazars. This practice of forcing others towards a Taliban centered ideology is wrong.

 

[حکایت جنوں]

?????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?? ??

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=422221437850215

Mei tum se kisi firqa warana behes mei nahi ulajhna chahta aur na he Dr. Israr aalim they. Ahl e Sunnat mei yeh masla mukhtalif feeh hai keh Khilafat naam zadgi ki bunyaad per muntaqil hui ya intikhabi thi. Dr. Israr ka khyal hai keh yeh naamzadgi per muntaqil hui lekin is ka koi wazeh tareeka deen mei bayan nahi hua. Aik doosra nuqta e nazar bhi hai jisey tum Maulana Maududi ki kitab Khilafat o Mulukiyyat mei dekh sakte ho jin ka khyal hai keh Khilafat intikhabi thi. Mujhe wese bhi tum kaafi bachgaana zehen ke lagte ho keh aik video se tum mere is sawal ka jawab deine ki koshish ker rahe ho jis video ka mere sawal se koi barah e raast talluq nahi. Is trah ki munazarana videos dekhne ki bijaye kuch achhey darjey ki kitaben parhne ki aadat daalo shaid tumhen kuch zehni kushadgi haasil ho

 

[Sohraab]

What is your opinion on the Pakistani National anthem?

Please can you say the anthem before you go?

wah kia bachkana posts hain tumhari

who the hell r u that someone prove something to you ??????

you stupid person

 

[alimohsan52]

wah kia bachkana posts hain tumhari

who the hell r u that someone prove something to you ??????

you stupid person

I already told you I do not want to talk to a mentally ill person like you. Please go somewhere else and b***

 

[حکایت جنوں]

Every sect has the right to practice their beliefs, no one has the right to tie suicide belts and blow up mazars. This practice of forcing others towards a Taliban centered ideology is wrong.

I think that my quote has nothing to do with the justification of Taliban's suicidal attacks on Mazars. On the contrary, I wrote in my comment (which you didn't consider while writing your comment) that there is nothing wrong in constructing Mazars but there are some practices going on on the Mazars which are highly immoral and irreligious according to all sects. Smoking chars is one of them which should be stopped through state law. Secondly, I emphasized in my comment that Barelvi ulama and sufia (who are the custodians of these Mazars) who also consider these practices against religion and morality should reform these practices because the main responsibility of reforms is upon them. So I was talking about reforms I don't know where in my comment you found that I am talking about forcibly changing someone's beliefs. And lastly, please stop bracketing everyone with Taliban who disagrees with you. Such generalizations will take you to fascist tendencies of which you are a strong critic in case of MQM

 

[Sohraab]

You being a supporter of Imran Khan and i cant believe of making a a big deal out of someone said earlier.. he simply said that according to what he believes in Quran and Sunnah. by law he would be against the MIZAR made by humans of Muhammad Ali Jinnah.. and you acting like someone who is immature are spreading hatred against that person on simply what he believes.. I feel you are an extremists and childish.. Maybe you belong to a certain sect and want to spread hatred against MuslimPak beliefs.. Shame on you

i know which Maslak He (alimohsan52) belongs to and i know what he is doing

he thinks that using My Loved brother my beloved brother and putting smily emotions will hide his childish and fitna posts