Hameed Gul & Imran Khan tried to use me to overthrow Benazir's Government, alleges Edhi

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Joo dar kay bhaag jaay usay bhagora kehtay hain,zara yeh bhee bata daitay kiss kay dar say bhagay thay,Kia imran nay loot kaa mall bahar lay janay kay liay kaha tha jiss kee waja say aarzee toor per mulk chorna para?

Rifahee kamoon kay liay aapkee koshashain liq e tareef hain magar sisat aapkay bass kaa roog naheen.
 

khandk

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
general hamid gul retired in 1992 while imran khan was plaing cricket til 1992 so how is it possible to threat edhi sahab. edhi sahab got threat from mqm but he can,t tell mqm, name
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
With due respect to Mr. Edhi, is he supporter of MQM, if he is, this makes sense, usually he is known to say that he does not want to say anything or get involved in Politics, why he than say this unless someone is twisting his arm
 

Cheemaa

Banned
Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In EXPRESS NEWS: Baat Say Baat with Maria Zulfiqar



[FONT=&quot]Q. Have you ever been approached by political or other groups for support?

A. Once, I was approached by General Hamid Gul, Imran Khan and few others, mostly military and intelligence officials, who were conspiring to overthrow Benazir Bhutto`s second government and wanted me to get involved. I declined because I am a social worker and not a politician. I also did not want to tarnish the credibility of my organisation by getting embroiled in something that obviously seemed quite disturbing. Eventually, I was made to feel threatened enough to temporarily leave the country.[/FONT]


http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...ws/pakistan/metropolitan/02-edhi-interview-01

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Yeh to bhanda ho gaya
 

Cheemaa

Banned
Re: Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In Baat Say Baat Talkshow

@ lllcolumbuslll here is the clarification from IK. We are still waiting for Nawaz? Kiya Ahsan Iqbal chutee pay hay?


on Monday, March 22, 2010 - PTI had already been clarified the statement of Edhi sb ......

these dirty politicians are playing cheap game .. :angry_smile::angry_smile:

Lets have a luk .....

Clarification about Abdul Sattar Edhi's comment
By Hammad Cheema
In a recent interview, renowned social worker Abdul Sattar Edhi made a comment regarding chairman Imran Khan that he contacted him to overthrow Benazir's second government. Chairman Imran Khan has refuted this allegation and issued the following statement through secretary general Dr. Arif Alvi.

The PTI Chairman Mr Imran Khan has met Mr Edhi only once and that was when he was collecting funds for SKMT in 1994. He met on the recommendation of Dr Haroon who was the physio of the Pakistan team. Mr Khan remembers that Dr Haroon was also the Trustee of the Edhi Foundation and he insisted with Mr Khan that Edhi Sahib is in London and that they must meet up. Khan Sahib was then neither in politics nor was he interested in politics.

Khan Sahib says that he met with Mr Edhi in London. Mr Khan remembers that all that transpired, details of which can still be confirmed from Dr Haroon, was that as there were only two major NGOs on Pakistan then SKMT and Edhi, they both should form a pressure group to push the government into spending more on Health, Education and Welfare. The discussion of a pressure group was purely in this regard. Mr Imran Khan never met Mr Edhi along with Lt Gen Hameed Gul, and never was any discussion held with Mr Edhi regarding politics. Mr Khan continues to respect Mr Edhi for his philanthropic work.

source : http://www.insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/ar...s-comment.aspx


Clarification by Dr.Alvi :

The PTI Chairman Mr Imran Khan has met Mr Edhi only once and that was when he was collecting funds for SKMT in 1994. He met on the recommendation of Dr Haroon who was the physio of the Pakistan team. Mr Khan remembers that Dr Haroon was also the Trustee of the Edhi Foundation and he insisted with Mr Khan that Edhi Sahib is in London and that they must meet up. Khan Sahib was then neither in politics nor was he interested in politics.

Khan Sahib says that he met with Mr Edhi in London. Mr Khan remembers that all that transpired, details of which can still be confirmed from Dr Haroon, was that as there were only two major NGOs on Pakistan then SKMT and Edhi, they both should form a pressure group to push the government into spending more on Health, Education and Welfare. The discussion of a pressure group was purely in this regard. Mr Imran Khan never met Mr Edhi along with Lt Gen Hameed Gul, and never was any discussion held with Mr Edhi regarding politics. Mr Khan continues to respect Mr Edhi for his philanthropic work.

I would request all of you to put this clarification everywhere Mr Edhis statement is being printed, and would also request Mr Omar Cheema to issue a press release to the paper where Mr Edhis statement has been published.

Yours sincerely,


Dr Arif Alvi,
Secretary General,
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf

This clarification does not mean that Edhi sahab is a liar. Pakistanis have more trust on Edhi sahab than any politician.
 

Islam4u

Citizen
PTI clarification on Edhi statements- Cleared. NEXT!

The PTI Chairman Mr Imran Khan has met Mr Edhi only once and that was when he was collecting funds for SKMT in 1994. He met on the recommendation of Dr Haroon who was the physio of the Pakistan team. Mr Khan remembers that Dr Haroon was also the Trustee of the Edhi Foundation and he insisted with Mr Khan that Edhi Sahib is in London and that they must meet up. Khan Sahib was then neither in politics nor was he interested in politics.

Khan Sahib says that he met with Mr Edhi in London. Mr Khan remembers that all that transpired, details of which can still be confirmed from Dr Haroon, was that as there were only two major NGOs on Pakistan then SKMT and Edhi, they both should form a pressure group to push the government into spending more on Health, Education and Welfare. The discussion of a pressure group was purely in this regard. Mr Imran Khan never met Mr Edhi along with Lt Gen Hameed Gul, and never was any discussion held with Mr Edhi regarding politics. Mr Khan continues to respect Mr Edhi for his philanthropic work.

I would request all of you to put this clarification everywhere Mr Edhis statement is being printed, and would also request Mr Omar Cheema to issue a press release to the paper where Mr Edhis statement has been published.


Yours sincerely,

Dr Arif Alvi,
Secretary General,
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
عجب کھل ہیں زمانے کے. عبدالستار ایدھی صاحب اور عبدالقدیر خان صاحب اس وقت وہ حیات ہستیاں ہیں پاکستان کی جنکی تقریبا پورا پاکستان دل و جان سے عزت کرتا ہے. جہاں تک ایدھی صاحب کے اس انکشاف کے بعد اور عمران خان کی بالواسطہ تردید جو کے انکی جماعت کے نمائندوں کے توسط سے سامنے آئ ہے اب یہ عام پاکستانی پر بات آ گئے ہے کے وہ خود فیصلہ کریں کے ان دونوں میں سے ایک شخص جھوٹا ہے

وہ شخص کون ہو سکتا ہے فیصلہ آپ کا

ایک بات اور بیان عبدالستار ایدھی صاحب نے دیا پر تحریک انصاف کے چیلوں چانٹوں کو کچھ اور نہیں ملا تو متحدہ قومی موومنٹ پر برس پڑے. لگتا ہے تحریک انصاف کے چیلوں کی خلوتوں تک میں متحدہ کا دخول ہو گیا ہے. ناکام کپتان سیاست میں ہمیشہ غلط میدان میں کھلا ہے اور کھیلتا رہے گا

Edhi Sb has to live in Karachi and your party supporters say that nothing can be happened in Karachi without our party permission.
Your party had a hope of alliance with PTI and allowed IK a demonstration in Karachi but when it felt that IK is not interested in alliance, it started using its old tactics.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Lagta hai PTI waloon ko Khuwab mai bhi MQM dikhai deti hai jis tarhan ajkal Imran Khan ko har jagah Nawaz Sharif Dikhai dai raha hai......Sirf Nafrat ki Siasat k ilawa Contribution hi kia hai Imran Khan ki Politics mai?????Ab tu yeh bhi Sabit hu gaya k Imran Khan khud Agency k Cheloon ki Paidawaar hai....Pehlay Hameed Gul tu ab Ganeral Pasha....Ab kis monh say Apnay app ko defend karega Imran Khan k woh Agencyu ki Zuban nahi bolta????????

Jahan tak Edhi aur Abdus Sattar k connection ka Taluq hai tu MQM jin Gali Muhaloon say uth kar yahan Pohanchi hai wahan Edhi Sahab ko bohat Respect di jati hai itni k agar MQM k khilaaf Edhi sahab kuch bool dain tu shayad MQM ki woh Support bhi wahan say Khatam hujai......Edhi Sahab MQM say nahi dartay balkay MQM Edhi Sahab say Darti hai cause unhain pata hai k unka aik Lafz MQm ko kitna Nuqsaan Phoncha sakta hai....

Jahan tak Taluq hai Imran Khan ka tu Hameed Gul jaisoon k sath reh kar Imran Khan nay Edhi ko is nehaj tak Pohanchaya k unhain Mulk Choorh kar jana Parha Aur Edhi jaisa Insaan k liye yeh Baat Naqabil-e-Faramoosh hai k usay apni Zindagi aur apni sari Zindagi ki Mehnat ko bachanay k liye kisi Aur mulk jana parhay.....Yahan Imran Khan ka Direct ya Indirect Connection hu us waqt magar unki in Harkatoon nay Edhi sahab ko bohat Takleef Pohanchai hai ab yeh Hameed Gul ka Infaradi qadam hu ya is mai Imran Khan bhi us kay sath Sharik hu is baat ki wazahat karni Parhegi Imran Khan ko.....Hameed Gul ki tu koi Izat baqi reh nahi gai magar Imran Khan ki bhi Izat ko Chaar Chand lag rahay hain Edhi sahab ki is baat say.....Ab dekhtay hain Imran Khan kis tarhan apnay app ko Hameed Gul jaisay logoon say Alag karta hai aur Edhi sahab ki is baat say kaisay apnay app ko alag karpata hai.....

 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
acha yeh wohi edhi sahib hain na jin ki ambluances men MQM k liye weapons aur mafroor qaidi mareez ban k travel kia kartay thy........
 

jhootaylog

MPA (400+ posts)
Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

Those who say that this War in not ours should take a deep breath and go through the newspapers of 90s and they may find that much before 911 "The Sectarian Killings of Shia Community" were rampant in Pakistan throughout the Tenures of Benazir and Nawaz Sharif. That dunce Imran Khan and super genius Hamid Gul say time and again that this isn't our War and PML-N has also joined the Mantra conveniently forget these Harsh Facts which have been properly reported in the media: Wiki Leaks on Deobandis & Mu?ammar al-Qa???f?. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/05/wiki-leaks-on-deobandis-muammar-al.html This War was imposed on Pakistan not by USA but by Pakistani State right after the death of General Zia when Aslam Beg became COAS and it was he and his minions who Unleashed "Sectarian War dogs i.e. Non State Actors on Unsuspecting Pakistanis.


WASHINGTON: Pakistanis opinion about the US before and after Osama bin Laden has remained unchanged, according to the Pew Research Centre poll results. President Zardaris popularity among Pakistani leaders plummeted the most and Imran Khans popularity shot up the most. President Zardaris popularity, which was rated at 20 percent, has fallen to 11 percent, revealed the poll, while PM Gilanis popularity has plunged to 37 percent from 59. Muslim League-N Quaid Mian Nawaz Sharif is in a better position, however, his popularity has also dropped down to 63 percent from 71. Most popular leader is Imran Khan, whose popularity has surged from mere 16 percent to 68 percent. Majority of the people have positive opinion about Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry although his rating has plummeted from 61 percent to 51 percent. US unilateral operation killing Osama bin Laden triggered some criticism on the army, but 79 percent think that the perception of army in the country is good. Army chief General Kayani is in a balance position and his rating before the operation was 57 percent which fell to 52 percent. Most of Pakistanis do not approve of the US operation killing OBL and it is considered as a bad omen, while only 14 percent thought it is good. 76 percent Pakistanis are of the opinion that media has been playing positive role, while 60 percent have similar opinion about the religious leaders. According to the poll most Pakistanis are dissatisfied with the prevalent situation in the country. Ninety two percent think that the direction to which the country is heading is not correct. 85 percent are of the view that economic condition is bad and 60 percent apprehend it further deteriorated in 12 months. Most people consider inflation, unemployment, increase in crimes, terrorism and political corruption key issues of the country. REFERENCE: Zardaris popularity down to 11pc: Pew poll 76 percent support media; Imran liked by 68 percent, Thursday, June 23, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=6942&Cat=13&dt=6/23/2011


Geo News: PEW Survey Report declare Imran Khan as most Popular Politicion in Pakistan

URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h5Bj3ySwX4
Jang Group/The News International/GEO TV are quite fond of quoting PEW RESEARCH:)

The public is reacting to the killing of Osama bin Laden with relief, happiness and pride. And Americans overwhelmingly credit the U.S. military and the CIA for the success of the operation. An overnight survey of 654 adults, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and The Washington Post finds that 72% say they feel "relieved" by Osama bin Laden's death, while 60% feel "proud" and 58% say they are "happy." Far fewer, just 16%, say the news of bin Laden's death makes them feel "afraid." The public has high praise for the U.S. military's role in the killing of bin Laden, with 86% saying they deserve a great deal of the credit. Two-thirds (66%) also give a great deal of credit to the CIA and other intelligence agencies who tracked the al Qaeda leader and located his hideout. Both the military and the intelligence agencies receive high marks across the political spectrum. Nearly all Republicans (96%), as well as 82% of Democrats and 88% of independents give the military a great deal of credit. Similarly, 75% of Republicans, 64% of Democrats and 68% of independents give the intelligence agencies a great deal of credit. Roughly a third (35%) say Obama deserves a great deal of credit and another 41% saying he deserves "some" credit. Just 21% say he deserves "not much" credit or none at all. About half of Democrats (52%) give Obama a great deal of credit, but only 17% of Republicans do so; 36% of independents give the president a great deal of credit. George W. Bush is given a great deal of credit for the killing of bin Laden by 15% of the public, and an additional 36% given him some credit. Nearly a third of Republicans (31%), 16% of independents and just 4% of Democrats give Bush a great deal of credit. REFERENCE: Public "Relieved" By bin Laden's Death, Obama's Job Approval Rises May 3, 2011 Pew Research Center for the People & the Press http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1978/po...ama-bush-military-cia-credit-first-heard-news
To a question about political settlements with militants, Imran asked that if the US was negotiating with the Taliban what was stopping us from entering into a dialogue with the militants. REFERENCE: Save country from corrupt govt, Imran asks judiciary Our Correspondent Friday, June 24, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=54183&Cat=5&dt=6/24/2011
Imran Khan Condemning Talibans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Q0iLVOY2s




ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Saturday said the parleys between Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Afghan President Hamid Karzai were like a puppet-show, having no importance. Talking to media persons here, Imran alleged that the Pak-Afghan dialogue would have no tangible results. He advised Pakistani rulers again to hold talks with the Taliban, as the United States, which claimed to be the only superpower was already engaging the Taliban and even not putting a condition of laying down of arms. About the NRO, he said it was an attempt to grab power and in return subjugate Pakistan to the US and undermine ISI as well as the Army. Imran said PML-Quaid Nawaz Sharif was also unleashing criticism on the military to realise his foreign agenda. He also came down hard on Interior Minister Rehman Malik. When asked about the PTI election strategy, Imran said party tickets in the next elections would be given to only those who neither had their assets abroad nor were defaulters. Imran said in response to a question what would be PTIs criterion of awarding party tickets that candidates with credible credentials would be given party tickets to take part in the electoral process if and when held.REFERENCE: Imran calls for talks with Taliban our correspondent Sunday, June 12, 2011

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=52147&Cat=2&dt=6/12/2011


Imran Khan support Taliban's Shariah Law


URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJmT3RNFpk


He made it clear even if the PTI came to know about misinformation about any candidate before or even after the election, action would be taken there and then without any delay. The PTI maintained Pakistan would have to have an independent foreign policy but this could only be possible after having relied on the countrys own resources. Independent foreign policy and a sound economy are interlinked, he contended. Imran pointed out that over 80pc taxes were indirect, which clearly meant taking away money from the masses to meet expenses of the rich and elite ruling class. He lamented no firm economic policy was adopted in the last 63 years and the rulers relied on foreign lending for their lavish style and spent not even a penny on the common man and instead put a burden of dollar 68 billion on Pakistan. Imran said the so-called sympathisers of Pakistan and its people stood exposed, who had their accounts and assets, whereas they wanted to keep befooling the people by their rhetoric. REFERENCE: Imran calls for talks with Taliban our correspondent Sunday, June 12, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=52147&Cat=2&dt=6/12/2011
In one his above sermon "Imran 'Taliban' Khan" has narrated a Hadith (Traditions of Holy Prophet Mohammad - PBUH) about the importance of Seeking Knowledge even if one has to go to China but there is a one big problem that "Mufti Imran Taliban Khan" doesn't even bother to authenticate and confirm that whether this Hadith was Valid or Simply Concocted!
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This narrative does not appear in any reliable Hadith collection and finds mention only in some of the less authoritative works. Different scholars have recorded it from a very weak and unreliable chain of narrators. The Sanad (chain of narrators) and Matn (text) of the H?ad?th, as quoted in Allamah Ibn Abdul Barrs Jami Bayaan al ilm, follows:


?????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ???? ???: ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ? ???:?????? ????? ? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?? ????


Ahmed narrates from Muslamah who narrates from Yaqub b. Ibrahim al Asqalani who narrates form Yusaf b. Muhammad al Faryaabi who narrates from Sufyaan b. Uyayna who narrates form Al-Zuhri who narrates from Anas b. Malik that the Prophet (pbuh) said: Seek knowledge even [you have to go to] China, for seeking knowledge is a duty binding on every Muslim.


According to the authorities, the narrative is a fabrication. Ibn al Jawzi in his work al-Mawzuat, Allamah Dhabi, in his work Tarteeb-al-Mawzuat and Allamah Nasir Uddin Albaani in his Silsilah Ahadith Zaheefah commented that the narrative is a fabrication and has no basis in the sources. REFERENCE: al-Mazooaat vol. 1, page 215, Tarteeb-al-Mawzooaat page 111 and Silsilah Ahadith Mawzooah narrative no: 906. Courtesy: Question and Answer Main >The Hadith >Explanation of Hadiths >

http://www.al-mawrid.org/pages/questions_english_detail.php?qid=1084&cid=511




With regard to the hadeeth mentioned, Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China, for seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim, Shaykh al-Albaani said in Daeef al-Jaami: (It is) fabricated. (no. 906).


The proven hadeeth is that which was narrated by Ibn Maajah from the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik, who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim. (220. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah. What is meant by knowledge here is knowledge of shareeah (Islamic knowledge). Al-Thawri said: It is the knowledge for which no person has any excuse for not knowing. And Allaah knows best. REFERENCE: Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China is a false hadeeth http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13637 COURTESY: Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid


??? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? : ( ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?? ???? )


??? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ( ????? ) ???? (906) .


??????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????? ????? : ????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ????????? ( ?????? ????????? ????????? ????? ????? ???????? ) ( 220 ) ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ???? . ???????? ?????? ??? ?? ????? ?????? . ??? ?????? : ?? ????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ? ????? ???? .


REFERENCE: Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China is a false hadeeth http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13637 COURTESY: Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid


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Caliph Imran Taliban Khan is also very fond of Blackmailing, Strong arm tactics particularly when he is in company of General (R) Hamid Gul (The Former Infamous rather Notorious ISI Chief) and subject is an innocent and harmless "Social Worker" like Abdul Sattar Edhi.

Here is a very old news "culled" from Daily Dawn 1996 about Abdul Sattar Edhi: The last of these rings a bell. It was a proposed pressure group that made Maulana Abdul Sattar Edhi see red a little over a year ago, leading him briefly to abandon the leadership of his mammoth humanitarian operation in Karachi. He revealed little beyond that his life was in danger after he had turned down an offer to join a subversive lot to destabilise the Benazir Bhutto government, and that Imran Khan was somehow involved in it a charge which, despite its vagueness, the former fast bowler has never satisfactorily been able to explain away. At the time, Imran Khan association with retired General Hamid Gul prompted speculation that the ex-military intelligence chief, notorious for his Afghan exploits and an inveterate foe of Ms Bhuttos regime, was up to no good. The stigma has not disappeared, and it will be interesting to see whether Hamid Gul has an upfront role in the forthcoming organisation. Imrans twists and turns By Mahir Ali DAWN WIRE SERVICE Week Ending : 25 April 1996 Issue : 02/17 http://www.lib.virginia.edu/area-studies/SouthAsia/SAserials/Dawn/1996/25Ap96.html#imra

Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In EXPRESS NEWS/Daily Dawn




Q. Have you ever been approached by political or other groups for support?

A. Once, I was approached by General Hamid Gul, Imran Khan and few others, mostly military and intelligence officials, who were conspiring to overthrow Benazir Bhutto`s second government and wanted me to get involved. I declined because I am a social worker and not a politician. I also did not want to tarnish the credibility of my organisation by getting embroiled in something that obviously seemed quite disturbing. Eventually, I was made to feel threatened enough to temporarily leave the country.

Abdul Sattar Edhi, the founder of the Edhi Foundation, is unarguably the most renowned philanthropist in Pakistan. - Eefa Khalid/Dawn.com
Pakistan is at a critical make-or-break stage By Qurat ul ain Siddiqui March 15, 2010 http://archives.dawn.com/archives/66970

Abdul Sattar Edhi, the founder of the Edhi Foundation, is unarguably the most renowned philanthropist in Pakistan. He began his work in 1951 with the opening of a free, one-room medical clinic in Karachi. Currently, his foundation runs 250 centres across the country and houses more than 2,000 children at any given time.

The centres also provide free burial of unclaimed bodies, free health care and dispensaries, rehabilitation of drug addicts, free assistance for the handicapped, and family planning counselling. Over 6,000 destitute, runaways, and mentally challenged individuals are also in the foundation`s care. The Edhi Foundation has also managed to raise the largest single fleet of ambulances in Pakistan, providing transportation to over one million persons annually. The foundation is also involved in relief efforts for victims of natural and other disasters on a national and international level.

Dawn.com speaks with Edhi to gauge how the foundation has been affected by the ongoing political and security situation.

Q. Your foundation is involved in a range of activities. How do you decide what projects to pursue?

A. My work involves supporting those who have no one to look after them. That also involves looking after the dead bodies and arranging a respectable burial for them. I cannot say no to anyone.

Q. Is there any part of the country where your organisation has encountered problems owing to the security situation?

A. We have never had any serious problems with anyone. There have been incidents reported by our workers and volunteers regarding hide-snatching [during Eid-ul-Azha] in the past, but we are operating as we always have. In fact, we are also planning to establish centres in Tank and Hangu. Even the Taliban haven`t made any trouble for us; they donated money to the foundation and said they did so because I was helping those who couldn`t help themselves.

Q. The foundation has accepted donations from the Taliban; does that mean that you agree with their ideology?

A. No, I do not. I also told them that I do not agree with all the violence and destruction and the effect it has on people`s lives. To that, they said they were not behind the attacks that targeted civilians and ordinary people.

Q. What is it that makes your angry?

A. I don`t get angry it`s not in my nature. Sometimes [my wife] Bilquis and I have arguments, but that`s all.

Q. Do you think philanthropic organisations such as yours cause the state to further abscond from its civic responsibilities?

A. If the state can ensure that all who are subject to pay taxes do so, that would be a good enough start. If people were to honestly pay their taxes and also give charity, it would solve more than half of the country`s problems.

Q. In 2008, eight children were abandoned by three women at an Edhi Foundation centre. The foundation later paid the families Rs. 100,000 each to take the children back. Are pay-offs of this kind effective when the root causes for children being abandoned are not addressed?

A. Pay-offs are, of course, no solution, and we normally do not hand out money like that. Usually, we give shelter to children whose families abandon them, primarily for monetary reasons. The day people stop abandoning their children at our centres, I will believe that things are changing in Pakistan. But that does not seem to be happening. It is also quite clear that the government does not get actively involved, so I have no hope of people getting support from the state.

Q. No hope? Isn`t that a fatalistic position to take regarding the state machinery?

A. It is. But how can I have hope in a state that is being exploited by the current system a system that is itself being manoeuvred by groups with no commitment to the people of this country. The whole political frame as it currently exists has to reinvent itself before we can even begin to hope for change in Pakistan.

Q. Have you ever been approached by political or other groups for support?

A. Once, I was approached by General Hamid Gul, Imran Khan and few others, mostly military and intelligence officials, who were conspiring to overthrow Benazir Bhutto`s second government and wanted me to get involved. I declined because I am a social worker and not a politician. I also did not want to tarnish the credibility of my organisation by getting embroiled in something that obviously seemed quite disturbing. Eventually, I was made to feel threatened enough to temporarily leave the country.

Q. How do you see the future of Pakistan?

A. I will continue to do my work and serve the people. However, Pakistan is now at a critical make-or-break stage, and if the system does not undergo a major overhaul, I am afraid that the country may even break up. Given the current conditions, it will take nothing short of a calculated, studied revolution to change things and save Pakistan.
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

Come with something new ... this we discussed ages back... this post shows nothing but your intentions and mentality... you wanna call us ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST ??? Alhumdollillah we are very much OK with this tag ... rather then being puppies of the west. in the name of moderate and democracy lovers.
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

interesting to see new members joining everyday trying to bash the popularity of Imran Khan! lagay raho jiyalo aur pithoou.
 

GraanG2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

If u come up with even bigger post than that,You can't fool the people anymore...The Pakistanis know who is who now...So don't waste ur energy in these kinda things...Cos it won't do any harm to Imran Khan .Cheers
 

jhootaylog

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

ایک دن میں پبلک باتھہ رم دیوارمٰن گیا اور لکھا تھا
بہاں پہ بڑے پڑو کی ٹٹی نکل جاتی ہے

پاکستان مین عمران خان کیا چیز ہے ۔۔۔

 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

ایک دن میں پبلک باتھہ رم دیوارمٰن گیا اور لکھا تھا
بہاں پہ بڑے پڑو کی ٹٹی نکل جاتی ہے

پاکستان مین عمران خان کیا چیز ہے ۔۔۔


I think this post is enough to show ur moral level what kind of parha likha jaahil u r.... I really feel sorry for people like u....
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

Imran "Taliban" Khan, Abdul Sattar Edhi & Trip to China!

Those who say that this War in not ours should take a deep breath and go through the newspapers of 90s and they may find that much before 911 "The Sectarian Killings of Shia Community" were rampant in Pakistan throughout the Tenures of Benazir and Nawaz Sharif. That dunce Imran Khan and super genius Hamid Gul say time and again that this isn't our War and PML-N has also joined the Mantra conveniently forget these Harsh Facts which have been properly reported in the media: Wiki Leaks on Deobandis & Mu?ammar al-Qa???f?. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/05/wiki-leaks-on-deobandis-muammar-al.html This War was imposed on Pakistan not by USA but by Pakistani State right after the death of General Zia when Aslam Beg became COAS and it was he and his minions who Unleashed "Sectarian War dogs i.e. Non State Actors on Unsuspecting Pakistanis.


WASHINGTON: Pakistanis’ opinion about the US before and after Osama bin Laden has remained unchanged, according to the Pew Research Centre poll results. President Zardari’s popularity among Pakistani leaders plummeted the most and Imran Khan’s popularity shot up the most. President Zardari’s popularity, which was rated at 20 percent, has fallen to 11 percent, revealed the poll, while PM Gilani’s popularity has plunged to 37 percent from 59. Muslim League-N Quaid Mian Nawaz Sharif is in a better position, however, his popularity has also dropped down to 63 percent from 71. Most popular leader is Imran Khan, whose popularity has surged from mere 16 percent to 68 percent. Majority of the people have positive opinion about Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry although his rating has plummeted from 61 percent to 51 percent. US unilateral operation killing Osama bin Laden triggered some criticism on the army, but 79 percent think that the perception of army in the country is good. Army chief General Kayani is in a balance position and his rating before the operation was 57 percent which fell to 52 percent. Most of Pakistanis do not approve of the US operation killing OBL and it is considered as a bad omen, while only 14 percent thought it is good. 76 percent Pakistanis are of the opinion that media has been playing positive role, while 60 percent have similar opinion about the religious leaders. According to the poll most Pakistanis are dissatisfied with the prevalent situation in the country. Ninety two percent think that the direction to which the country is heading is not correct. 85 percent are of the view that economic condition is bad and 60 percent apprehend it further deteriorated in 12 months. Most people consider inflation, unemployment, increase in crimes, terrorism and political corruption key issues of the country. REFERENCE: Zardari’s popularity down to 11pc: Pew poll 76 percent support media; Imran liked by 68 percent, Thursday, June 23, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=6942&Cat=13&dt=6/23/2011


Geo News: PEW Survey Report declare Imran Khan as most Popular Politicion in Pakistan

URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h5Bj3ySwX4
Jang Group/The News International/GEO TV are quite fond of quoting PEW RESEARCH:)

The public is reacting to the killing of Osama bin Laden with relief, happiness and pride. And Americans overwhelmingly credit the U.S. military and the CIA for the success of the operation. An overnight survey of 654 adults, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and The Washington Post finds that 72% say they feel "relieved" by Osama bin Laden's death, while 60% feel "proud" and 58% say they are "happy." Far fewer, just 16%, say the news of bin Laden's death makes them feel "afraid." The public has high praise for the U.S. military's role in the killing of bin Laden, with 86% saying they deserve a great deal of the credit. Two-thirds (66%) also give a great deal of credit to the CIA and other intelligence agencies who tracked the al Qaeda leader and located his hideout. Both the military and the intelligence agencies receive high marks across the political spectrum. Nearly all Republicans (96%), as well as 82% of Democrats and 88% of independents give the military a great deal of credit. Similarly, 75% of Republicans, 64% of Democrats and 68% of independents give the intelligence agencies a great deal of credit. Roughly a third (35%) say Obama deserves a great deal of credit and another 41% saying he deserves "some" credit. Just 21% say he deserves "not much" credit or none at all. About half of Democrats (52%) give Obama a great deal of credit, but only 17% of Republicans do so; 36% of independents give the president a great deal of credit. George W. Bush is given a great deal of credit for the killing of bin Laden by 15% of the public, and an additional 36% given him some credit. Nearly a third of Republicans (31%), 16% of independents and just 4% of Democrats give Bush a great deal of credit. REFERENCE: Public "Relieved" By bin Laden's Death, Obama's Job Approval Rises May 3, 2011 Pew Research Center for the People & the Press http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1978/po...ama-bush-military-cia-credit-first-heard-news
To a question about political settlements with militants, Imran asked that if the US was negotiating with the Taliban what was stopping us from entering into a dialogue with the militants. REFERENCE: Save country from corrupt govt, Imran asks judiciary Our Correspondent Friday, June 24, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=54183&Cat=5&dt=6/24/2011
Imran Khan Condemning Talibans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Q0iLVOY2s




ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Saturday said the parleys between Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Afghan President Hamid Karzai were like a puppet-show, having no importance. Talking to media persons here, Imran alleged that the Pak-Afghan dialogue would have no tangible results. He advised Pakistani rulers again to hold talks with the Taliban, as the United States, which claimed to be the only superpower was already engaging the Taliban and even not putting a condition of laying down of arms. About the NRO, he said it was an attempt to grab power and in return subjugate Pakistan to the US and undermine ISI as well as the Army. Imran said PML-Quaid Nawaz Sharif was also unleashing criticism on the military to realise his foreign agenda. He also came down hard on Interior Minister Rehman Malik. When asked about the PTI election strategy, Imran said party tickets in the next elections would be given to only those who neither had their assets abroad nor were defaulters. Imran said in response to a question what would be PTI’s criterion of awarding party tickets that candidates with credible credentials would be given party tickets to take part in the electoral process if and when held.REFERENCE: Imran calls for talks with Taliban our correspondent Sunday, June 12, 2011

http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=52147&Cat=2&dt=6/12/2011


Imran Khan support Taliban's Shariah Law


URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJmT3RNFpk


He made it clear even if the PTI came to know about misinformation about any candidate before or even after the election, action would be taken there and then without any delay. The PTI maintained Pakistan would have to have an independent foreign policy but this could only be possible after having relied on the country’s own resources. “Independent foreign policy and a sound economy are interlinked,” he contended. Imran pointed out that over 80pc taxes were indirect, which clearly meant taking away money from the masses to meet expenses of the rich and elite ruling class. He lamented no firm economic policy was adopted in the last 63 years and the rulers relied on foreign lending for their lavish style and spent not even a penny on the common man and instead put a burden of dollar 68 billion on Pakistan. Imran said the so-called sympathisers of Pakistan and its people stood exposed, who had their accounts and assets, whereas they wanted to keep befooling the people by their rhetoric. REFERENCE: Imran calls for talks with Taliban our correspondent Sunday, June 12, 2011
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=52147&Cat=2&dt=6/12/2011
In one his above sermon "Imran 'Taliban' Khan" has narrated a Hadith (Traditions of Holy Prophet Mohammad - PBUH) about the importance of Seeking Knowledge even if one has to go to China but there is a one big problem that "Mufti Imran Taliban Khan" doesn't even bother to authenticate and confirm that whether this Hadith was Valid or Simply Concocted!
"QUOTE"


This narrative does not appear in any reliable Hadith collection and finds mention only in some of the less authoritative works. Different scholars have recorded it from a very weak and unreliable chain of narrators. The Sanad (chain of narrators) and Matn (text) of the H?ad?th, as quoted in Allamah Ibn Abdul Barr’s Jami‘ Bayaan al ‘ilm, follows:


?????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????????? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ?? ???? ???: ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ? ???:?????? ????? ? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?? ????


Ahmed narrates from Muslamah who narrates from Ya‘qub b. Ibrahim al Asqalani who narrates form Yusaf b. Muhammad al Faryaabi who narrates from Sufyaan b. ‘Uyayna who narrates form Al-Zuhri who narrates from Anas b. Malik that the Prophet (pbuh) said: Seek knowledge even [you have to go to] China, for seeking knowledge is a duty binding on every Muslim.


According to the authorities, the narrative is a fabrication. Ibn al Jawzi in his work al-Mawzu‘at, ‘Allamah Dhabi, in his work Tarteeb-al-Mawzu‘at and Allamah Nasir Uddin Albaani in his Silsilah Ahadith Zaheefah commented that the narrative is a fabrication and has no basis in the sources. REFERENCE: al-Mazoo‘aat vol. 1, page 215, Tarteeb-al-Mawzoo‘aat page 111 and Silsilah Ahadith Mawzoo‘ah narrative no: 906. Courtesy: Question and Answer Main >The Hadith >Explanation of Hadiths >

http://www.al-mawrid.org/pages/questions_english_detail.php?qid=1084&cid=511




With regard to the hadeeth mentioned, “Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China, for seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim,” Shaykh al-Albaani said in Da’eef al-Jaami’: “(It is) fabricated.” (no. 906).


The proven hadeeth is that which was narrated by Ibn Maajah from the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik, who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim.’” (220. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah. What is meant by knowledge here is knowledge of sharee’ah (Islamic knowledge). Al-Thawri said: “It is the knowledge for which no person has any excuse for not knowing.” And Allaah knows best. REFERENCE: “Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China” is a false hadeeth http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13637 COURTESY: Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid


??? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? : ( ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ?? ???? )


??? ????? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ( ????? ) ???? (906) .


??????? ?????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??????? ????? : ????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ????????? ( ?????? ????????? ????????? ????? ????? ???????? ) ( 220 ) ????? ???????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ???? . ???????? ?????? ??? ?? ????? ?????? . ??? ?????? : ?? ????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?? ????? ?? ? ????? ???? .


REFERENCE: “Seek knowledge even if you have to go as far as China” is a false hadeeth http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13637 COURTESY: Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid


"UNQUOTE"
Caliph Imran Taliban Khan is also very fond of Blackmailing, Strong arm tactics particularly when he is in company of General (R) Hamid Gul (The Former Infamous rather Notorious ISI Chief) and subject is an innocent and harmless "Social Worker" like Abdul Sattar Edhi.

Here is a very old news "culled" from Daily Dawn 1996 about Abdul Sattar Edhi: The last of these rings a bell. It was a proposed pressure group that made Maulana Abdul Sattar Edhi see red a little over a year ago, leading him briefly to abandon the leadership of his mammoth humanitarian operation in Karachi. He revealed little beyond that his life was in danger after he had turned down an offer to join a subversive lot to destabilise the Benazir Bhutto government, and that Imran Khan was somehow involved in it a charge which, despite its vagueness, the former fast bowler has never satisfactorily been able to explain away. At the time, Imran Khan association with retired General Hamid Gul prompted speculation that the ex-military intelligence chief, notorious for his Afghan exploits and an inveterate foe of Ms Bhuttos regime, was up to no good. The stigma has not disappeared, and it will be interesting to see whether Hamid Gul has an upfront role in the forthcoming organisation. Imrans twists and turns By Mahir Ali DAWN WIRE SERVICE Week Ending : 25 April 1996 Issue : 02/17 http://www.lib.virginia.edu/area-studies/SouthAsia/SAserials/Dawn/1996/25Ap96.html#imra

Imran Khan Expoed By Abdul Sattar Edhi In EXPRESS NEWS/Daily Dawn




Q. Have you ever been approached by political or other groups for support?

A. Once, I was approached by General Hamid Gul, Imran Khan and few others, mostly military and intelligence officials, who were conspiring to overthrow Benazir Bhutto`s second government and wanted me to get involved. I declined because I am a social worker and not a politician. I also did not want to tarnish the credibility of my organisation by getting embroiled in something that obviously seemed quite disturbing. Eventually, I was made to feel threatened enough to temporarily leave the country.

Abdul Sattar Edhi, the founder of the Edhi Foundation, is unarguably the most renowned philanthropist in Pakistan. - Eefa Khalid/Dawn.com
“Pakistan is at a critical make-or-break stage” By Qurat ul ain Siddiqui March 15, 2010 http://archives.dawn.com/archives/66970

Abdul Sattar Edhi, the founder of the Edhi Foundation, is unarguably the most renowned philanthropist in Pakistan. He began his work in 1951 with the opening of a free, one-room medical clinic in Karachi. Currently, his foundation runs 250 centres across the country and houses more than 2,000 children at any given time.

The centres also provide free burial of unclaimed bodies, free health care and dispensaries, rehabilitation of drug addicts, free assistance for the handicapped, and family planning counselling. Over 6,000 destitute, runaways, and mentally challenged individuals are also in the foundation`s care. The Edhi Foundation has also managed to raise the largest single fleet of ambulances in Pakistan, providing transportation to over one million persons annually. The foundation is also involved in relief efforts for victims of natural and other disasters on a national and international level.

Dawn.com speaks with Edhi to gauge how the foundation has been affected by the ongoing political and security situation.

Q. Your foundation is involved in a range of activities. How do you decide what projects to pursue?

A. My work involves supporting those who have no one to look after them. That also involves looking after the dead bodies and arranging a respectable burial for them. I cannot say no to anyone.

Q. Is there any part of the country where your organisation has encountered problems owing to the security situation?

A. We have never had any serious problems with anyone. There have been incidents reported by our workers and volunteers regarding hide-snatching [during Eid-ul-Azha] in the past, but we are operating as we always have. In fact, we are also planning to establish centres in Tank and Hangu. Even the Taliban haven`t made any trouble for us; they donated money to the foundation and said they did so because I was helping those who couldn`t help themselves.

Q. The foundation has accepted donations from the Taliban; does that mean that you agree with their ideology?

A. No, I do not. I also told them that I do not agree with all the violence and destruction and the effect it has on people`s lives. To that, they said they were not behind the attacks that targeted civilians and ordinary people.

Q. What is it that makes your angry?

A. I don`t get angry – it`s not in my nature. Sometimes [my wife] Bilquis and I have arguments, but that`s all.

Q. Do you think philanthropic organisations such as yours cause the state to further abscond from its civic responsibilities?

A. If the state can ensure that all who are subject to pay taxes do so, that would be a good enough start. If people were to honestly pay their taxes and also give charity, it would solve more than half of the country`s problems.

Q. In 2008, eight children were abandoned by three women at an Edhi Foundation centre. The foundation later paid the families Rs. 100,000 each to take the children back. Are pay-offs of this kind effective when the root causes for children being abandoned are not addressed?

A. Pay-offs are, of course, no solution, and we normally do not hand out money like that. Usually, we give shelter to children whose families abandon them, primarily for monetary reasons. The day people stop abandoning their children at our centres, I will believe that things are changing in Pakistan. But that does not seem to be happening. It is also quite clear that the government does not get actively involved, so I have no hope of people getting support from the state.

Q. No hope? Isn`t that a fatalistic position to take regarding the state machinery?

A. It is. But how can I have hope in a state that is being exploited by the current system – a system that is itself being manoeuvred by groups with no commitment to the people of this country. The whole political frame as it currently exists has to reinvent itself before we can even begin to hope for change in Pakistan.

Q. Have you ever been approached by political or other groups for support?

A. Once, I was approached by General Hamid Gul, Imran Khan and few others, mostly military and intelligence officials, who were conspiring to overthrow Benazir Bhutto`s second government and wanted me to get involved. I declined because I am a social worker and not a politician. I also did not want to tarnish the credibility of my organisation by getting embroiled in something that obviously seemed quite disturbing. Eventually, I was made to feel threatened enough to temporarily leave the country.

Q. How do you see the future of Pakistan?

A. I will continue to do my work and serve the people. However, Pakistan is now at a critical make-or-break stage, and if the system does not undergo a major overhaul, I am afraid that the country may even break up. Given the current conditions, it will take nothing short of a calculated, studied revolution to change things and save Pakistan.

One more question to be asked to Mr. Edhi " Did you ambulances ever transported weapons for MQM"?

Once he answers this, than the picture will be clear, now some one is trying to confuse the matter by one sided reports.
 

ALI ARYAN

Senator (1k+ posts)
Edhi Sb has to live in Karachi and your party supporters say that nothing can be happened in Karachi without our party permission.
Your party had a hope of alliance with PTI and allowed IK a demonstration in Karachi but when it felt that IK is not interested in alliance, it started using its old tactics.

بہت خوب متحدہ کو عمران کی ضرورت نہیں ہے. خواب و کھیل کی دنیا سےباہر آؤ . بچپن کی ایک نظم یاد آ گئے.
اٹھو بیٹا آنکھیں کھولو
بستر چھوڑو اور منہ دھو لو.
اتنی دیر تک سونا ٹھیک نہیں ہے
وقت کا کھونا تھیں نہیں ہے.
عملی کام کرو آزاد کشمیر کا میدان تو چھوڑ کر پھر سے بھاگ گئے ہو اور جو امیدیں لگا رہی ہیں اسٹبلشمنٹ کے وعدوں پر وہ دھری کی دھری رہ جائیں گی نوے فیصد عمران کے حمایتیوں کا نہ تو ووٹ ہے اور جنکا ووٹ ہے وہ کنیڈا میں بیٹھے سوشل کھا رہے ہیں. اور جنکو حرام کی خانے کی عادت لگی ہو وہ کسی کے ساتھ کیا مخلص ہونگے
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


بہت خوب متحدہ کو عمران کی ضرورت نہیں ہے. خواب و کھیل کی دنیا سےباہر آؤ . بچپن کی ایک نظم یاد آ گئے.
اٹھو بیٹا آنکھیں کھولو
بستر چھوڑو اور منہ دھو لو.
اتنی دیر تک سونا ٹھیک نہیں ہے
وقت کا کھونا تھیں نہیں ہے.
عملی کام کرو آزاد کشمیر کا میدان تو چھوڑ کر پھر سے بھاگ گئے ہو اور جو امیدیں لگا رہی ہیں اسٹبلشمنٹ کے وعدوں پر وہ دھری کی دھری رہ جائیں گی نوے فیصد عمران کے حمایتیوں کا نہ تو ووٹ ہے اور جنکا ووٹ ہے وہ کنیڈا میں بیٹھے سوشل کھا رہے ہیں. اور جنکو حرام کی خانے کی عادت لگی ہو وہ کسی کے ساتھ کیا مخلص ہونگے

MQM sey ziada haram or kon khata hai.
MQM ka to leader hi London main beitha social security kha raha hai to aap kis mune sey kisi ko keh hehey hain laikin kehtey hain na "chore ki darhi main tinka" ha ha ha
 

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