The Hijri Calendar and the Lost Month of Ramadan
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Nebula
Minister (2k+ posts)
Don't watch these fitna.
AS PER PROPHET. The whole muslim Ummah IJMAH can't be wrong. What ever Ummah (majority scholars) says follow it. That is following quran and Sunnah. As per muslim follow scholars IJMAH you will get rewards. Leave these quran only and these type of sudo intellectuals trying to create divide/fitna. whole muslim ummah is always on correct path as per prophet. These are like the qadiyani who created opinion against majority IJMAH of Ummah so they gone out of Islam.
AS PER PROPHET. The whole muslim Ummah IJMAH can't be wrong. What ever Ummah (majority scholars) says follow it. That is following quran and Sunnah. As per muslim follow scholars IJMAH you will get rewards. Leave these quran only and these type of sudo intellectuals trying to create divide/fitna. whole muslim ummah is always on correct path as per prophet. These are like the qadiyani who created opinion against majority IJMAH of Ummah so they gone out of Islam.
Wake up Pak
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Wake up Pak
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Where is the Muslim Ummah? Are the Shia, Suni, Braveli, Deobundi, and Ahle Hadith are Muslim Ummah? Don't be fooled by the Majoosi narrator's Islam.
The 2 billion Christians believe in Isa being the son of God, are they right or wrong?
Nebula
Minister (2k+ posts)
Nabi Pak PBUH Muslim Ummah who belive in iman e mujmal and mufassal. which means these sects Islamic mention they belive in it and hence they all are muslims. they have slight differences in implementations....dont compare with the Fitna of the month of ramadhan etc....the difference in scholars is good for the deen but if All Scholars of 1400 are have IJMAH on something now if someone new come up with new thing we need to check in light of Scholars....please read the Deen under Scholar and leave your own interoperations.
Wake up Pak
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You do not need Mullahs to understand Deen. Also, Deen is only in the Quran, not in man-made books.
The Quran condemns all sects. All sects in Islam, whether Sunni, Shias, Ahmadis, Ismailli......etc
6:159
As for those who divided their religion and became sects—you have nothing to do with them. Their case rests with God; then He will inform them of what they used to do
42:12
They didn’t become divided until after knowledge had come to them, out of mutual envy. If not for a prior decree from your Lord, judgment would’ve been issued between them. Those who were made to inherit the Scripture after them are in troubling doubt concerning it.
Do you still want to belong to a certain sect?
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
But the Quran says totally the opposite, majority is always mentioned in the negative, e.g : do not follow the majority as it will lead you astray. This concept of ijma does not exist in the Quran
So who and what are you going to follow? You mullahs and their man made books OR Allah and his one true undisputable book?
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
And who gave Umar authority do this? When even the Prophet could not add or take out something the size of a grain of sand from the deen, then on whose authority did Umar do this?
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
What a cunning plan. Make all these fake sayings of the Prophet then introduce them into the deen so whatever the enemies of Islam and those who used the deen for power and other wordly gains no one could question them, because "ijma"
The Hijri calendar is literally the worst calendar in the world right now. Calendars were invented to keep track of time, weather and seasons. So farmers would know now its time to plant their crops or time for harvest is coming close, or time to migrate to higher grounds for better grazing for cattle is coming buy, going on a voyage because seas are calmers in these months.
Practically everything a person needs a calendar for you cannot use a hijri calendar for that. Its like saying I'll meet you on Friday, but you don't know when Friday is? It could be after 3 days 6 days or even tomorrow because you just don't know.
Even our Desi Calendar used in Punjab which is also a lunar calendar called nanakshahi calendar across the border is more accurate and useable than the hijri. Because winter is always winter and summer is always summer in that
Nebula
Minister (2k+ posts)
Its upto you no one forcing you. For you may be No need to follow anyone you can go to heaven by your own.
The Quran and Sunnah all came through same sources. so no need of Quran and Sunnah or may be whatever u think correct take it.
Scholars are the people who bring proper hadees sciences and in depth knowlegde of each details. Will recommend you watch HamzaDen or Dawwahwise Channel on youtube and ask your concern on those channels which may give you more knowledge and better understanding.
Citizen X
President (40k+ posts)
Before I breakdown your current post in a moment. I was expecting some kind of reply to the false information you and your kind have been spreading about this nonsense concept of Ijama? When the Quran clearly always talks negatively when it comes to majority It is because of stupid things like "Ijma" a lot of barbaric things are practiced under the guise of Islam
Calling that science is honestly an insult to the word science. For eg:- Fulan heard fulan said that fulan heard fulan say X a million times and then claiming that all these Fulans have been traced down ( a big lie ) and were of very sound and honest character. And how do we know that, because we put their names in the books we wrote like Ilm Al Rijal saying fulan fulan fulan were good men of sound minds! Oh for gods sakes, can you get any dumber than that!
???? Totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand?
Please get your information right. Quran was not written down by Bhukari, Majah, Hanbal, Abu Dawud etc etc like your "sunnah" centuries after the Prophet passed away. Think for a second before your automatically just regurgitate what you have been indoctrinated with.
Oh God no!
Calling that science is honestly an insult to the word science. For eg:- Fulan heard fulan said that fulan heard fulan say X a million times and then claiming that all these Fulans have been traced down ( a big lie ) and were of very sound and honest character. And how do we know that, because we put their names in the books we wrote like Ilm Al Rijal saying fulan fulan fulan were good men of sound minds! Oh for gods sakes, can you get any dumber than that! Go to fulan fulan scholar go stud fulan science (lol) go watch fulan fulan channel. That is the problem with you people, you have recommended me everything and everyone under the sun except the most crucial thing. The Quran. I think Wake up Pak hit it on the nail when he once said you people have some kind of allergy towards the Quran. You will do everything in your power, go out of the way, not to read and understand the Quran but rather defend your garbage books which you people insultingly call the sunnah. When there is never any mention of sunnah ul nabi or sunnah al rasool in the Quran the word sunnah is never mentioned with name or title of any prophet or messenger except the Sunnat'ullah. The closet you can get is in Quran 16:123 where we are asked to follow the Millat of Ibrahim i.e creed Even then the Quran does not say follow the sunnah of Ibrahim.
