Rare "Jihadi" Seeks Bhagwan's Forgiveness in "Mumbai Confession"

Rashna

Banned
This is precisely the reason he said it. They had been told to act like hindus. They came wearing those red wrist bands. When u go in to an environment that is threatening to u, u will try to behave like them to avoid any conflict. He was doing just that. But in the end he talked of sawab and jannat both islamic concepts. If he had been a hindu trained to behave like a muslim he wud have used the word Allah and given specific description of Jehad. He couldn't because he was not that educated himself and he could only remember wat little words were taught to him by his trainers. This has been confirmed by others who gave testimony in this case. Abu jundal one of the handlers is under arrest in India.
Learning Hindi Or Hindi Accent Doesn't Make A Jihaadi Say "BHAGWAN mujhe Maaf Nahi Kary Ga"
 

Suhana

Senator (1k+ posts)
Is this thread on samjhota express? If not kindly take ure train somewhere else.



This thread like a samjhota express because every time indians media and hindu peopls lies about Pakistan..and same way last weeks drama of Sea boat co sponser by RAW and indian media which one exposed after one day..
 

Rashna

Banned
lol. don't get emotional.

This thread like a samjhota express because every time indians media and hindu peopls lies about Pakistan..and same way last weeks drama of Sea boat co sponser by RAW and indian media which one exposed after one day..
 

mithyaa

MPA (400+ posts)
The whole world lies about Pakistan. Pakistan is the only pure country in this world and everyone else is conspiring against this pure muslim nuclear power. All the reports from around the world are a lie, even the few Pakistanis who confessed that Kasab was Pakistani are foreigners who used secret alien technology to make themselves look and sound Pakistani.
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
One of the prime suspects in last year's Mumbai terrorist attacks suddenly withdrew his confession today and claimed he had been framed by police.

Mohammad Ajmal Kasab is on trial in Mumbai accused of being the lone surviving gunman from the attacks, in which 166 people died over three days in November last year.

Prosecutors are adamant that Kasab is the young man seen clutching an automatic rifle and striding through the city's railway station in a picture that has become the iconic image of the attacks.

Kasab insisted today that this was not the case, smiling as he set out his new version of events. Far from arriving by sea with the other gunmen on the night the attacks began, he said, he had pitched up nearly three weeks earlier hoping to break into the Bollywood film industry and had been picked up by the police three days before the attacks for being Pakistani.

It was his misfortune, he claimed, to be the doppelgnger of one of the gunmen shot dead by police. Lacking a culprit to put on trial, they had taken him from his cell the day the attacks were launched, shot him to make it look as if he had been injured in the crossfire and then framed him, he said.

"I was not present in the Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus and I did not open firing inside the railway station. I have never seen an AK-47 in my life, or even a rubber dingy," he told the astonished courtroom.

It was a remarkable twist, even in a week in which David Headley, the man alleged to have masterminded the attacks, was accused by Indian intelligence sources of acting as a double agent for the CIA and al-Qaida.

It is not the first time Kasab has changed his story. The 21-year-old, who faces the death penalty if convicted, initially denied the charges. He surprised everyone including his lawyer by changing his plea to guilty in July and regaling the court with an account of how he had travelled to Mumbai by boat from Pakistan with his fellow gunmen to launch the attacks. He would rather be hanged in this world than face God's punishment in the next, he explained.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/18/mumbai-suspect-withdraws-confession
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He isn't Pakistani for sure. There is no place in Pakistan that people speak in the accent and dialect he is using. Maybe indian people don't know this little tidbit.
lurker your account recently got hacked or what? :D
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
this particular video has been posted many times and discussed to death.....wonder what made this haq musings guy suddenly wake up today......lol.....
 
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lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
lurker your account recently got hacked or what? :D
Hahah Naah man. I am just saying what the video shows. I do contend that there maybe other terrorists, but I find Ajmal Kassab as a really bad play. Seems like a quick way to seal the case and give the masses what they were clamoring for.
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hahah Naah man. I am just saying what the video shows. I do contend that there maybe other terrorists, but I find Ajmal Kassab as a really bad play. Seems like a quick way to seal the case and give the masses what they were clamoring for.
so you think this kasab guy shown in the video is some Indian actor?......
 

PESTONJI SODADARUWALA

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Learning Hindi Or Hindi Accent Doesn't Make A Jihaadi Say "BHAGWAN mujhe Maaf Nahi Kary Ga"


hota hai hota hai ,

is tarah ke kaamo me log apne baap ko bhi nahi pahchante .

aur tumhe to apna accent bhi hindustani lagega .

waise bhi pakistani ek amanpasand qaum hai , usme aaj tak koi jehadi paida nahi kiya jo india me jakar qatl kare ,

zaid hamid ne to dekh kar pahle din hi bataya tha ki yah raw ka agent hiralal aur amar sing hai ,in dono ke abbajan waziristan ke sadarussudur the. (bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)
 

PESTONJI SODADARUWALA

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Hahah Naah man. I am just saying what the video shows. I do contend that there maybe other terrorists, but I find Ajmal Kassab as a really bad play. Seems like a quick way to seal the case and give the masses what they were clamoring for.


you tut lurker ?

wah re lurker tune bhi such ka saath chhod diya ?


jin patto pe taqiya tha wohi patte hawa dene lage.
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
so you think this kasab guy shown in the video is some Indian actor?......
I know the inclination is incredibly strong to hold Pakistan responsible. But this video at face value does not convey a Pakistani account. There is no Pakistani dialect like the one this person is speaking. And Pakistan isn't as big a country as India is. So it's not that difficult to know this.
you tut lurker ?

wah re lurker tune bhi such ka saath chhod diya ?

jin patto pe taqiya tha wohi patte hawa dene lage.
Sach kiya hai? Jo apko bataya jata hai? The US killed Bin Laden. Didn't show even a body, just told the world so. We have to believe it. Just take their word for it. This is why I take such claims not that seriously.
 

Rashna

Banned
I am being advised to read on samjhota express to understand why Ajmal Kasab is not Pakistani (talk about logic). I suggest some reading too.


The unending Faridkot mystery

From the Newspaper
Published Nov 21, 2012 11:26pm




Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab. — File Photo by APLAHORE: Ajmal Kasab, the ‘baby-faced butcher’, arrived on the scene in November 2008 and even though he was executed in a Pune jail about four years later on Wednesday, his image and his stereotype threatens to live on without being fully probed.
The criminal investigation or a lack of it apart, no serious study to understand his coming about has yet been undertaken and none is likely if the conventional and convenient methods of investigation continue to be obsessively applied.
Ajmal Kasab was the lone survivor among the 10 Mumbai attackers. In late November 2008 intelligence leaks to Indian media claimed he was a Pakistani hailing from a village named Faridkot. A search was launched by media in Pakistan and many Faridkots beckoned out of their unnoticed existence on the map. Finally, after a series of blanks, a tip from Okara in central Punjab said Ajmal Kasab’s family might be living in Faridkot village bang on the Kasur-Depalpur road, not far from Depalpur town.
An investigation by a Dawn reporter confirmed that Amir Kasab, identified by Indian media as the father of Ajmal, had indeed settled in Faridkot many years ago after arriving from nearby Haveli Lakha, and that among his children was a son who had left home some time ago.
Two Dawn journalists arrived in a neat-looking Faridkot lane in the first week of December, 2008. They were looking for the Kasab home and were met on the way by a man of medium build, clad in shalwar kameez. “Do you know someone from the Kasab family? Are they home?,” the man was asked.
“I am Kasab,” he replied. Then quickly and mechanically, he took out his identity card from his chest pocket, as if he had kept it handy for an impending identification. “Amir Kasab,” the card read.
In a few seconds, the journalists were inside Amir Kasab’s house. A pale-eyed woman sat on a charpoy, introduced to the visitors as Ajmal’s mother. Two younger women who stood by were identified as Ajmal’s sisters. Also around and visibly intrigued by the visit was a young boy in winter school uniform. He was said to be Ajmal’s younger brother.
A few hours earlier, the same journalists had found the details in the Indian media’s breaking stories on Ajmal Kasab a bit too difficult to stomach --- an example of how intelligence agencies used media to forward their own interests, how too much information gave a story-teller away. It was a story they were desperate to disprove, ready to suffer the embarrassment that awaits pursuers at the end chasing a red herring. In these stories, the attacker was painted as a poor runaway boy who, after wandering through Lahore, had met his jihadi handlers in Rawalpindi. However, in the poor and well-kempt courtyard of the Kasab family that afternoon, the probing journalists found some striking similarities between their surroundings and the bits reported in Indian media accounts of Ajmal’s confessions.
The reports said Amir Kasab was a snacks-seller in Faridkot, and now a handcart stood in one corner of the yard, stacked with steel plates and glasses washed and ready to serve. Amir said he sold pakoras in the village, a collection of quite spacious brick-houses against a background of richly cultivated fields and smoke-emitting factories that had been under-projected in the media leaks.
Much more devastating, the master of the house admitted the pictures flashed in media were his son’s. “Initially, I did not own up to this. But now I know that this is my son,” he said.
Then he sobbed and his wife’s face disappeared in the chador she had on her. The younger lot of the family looked on, as did the small crowd that had gathered inside the house, probably neighbours not all of whom were comfortable with the content of the unfolding conversation.
There were a few points which Amir Kasab adamantly denied. The media had implied that he had taken money against Ajmal’s services to the ‘handlers’ of the Mumbai attack --- an accusation that has been repeated after the execution now. “He had asked me to buy Eid clothes for him. When I refused he got angry and left,” Amir’s simple explanation said.
That was apparently the only exchange between the Kasab family of Faridkot near Depalpur and the media. Over the following hours, the village was besieged by journalists faced by a local nazim and his men determined to prevent any further prying into their lives, even if it required manhandling the nosey journalists.
One reporter working with a British paper located the Kasab name on an electoral roll. Yet, no clue was available to the whereabouts of Amir Kasab and his family. They had simply vanished from the scene.
The first reaction in Pakistan back then was to disown Ajmal Kasab. Now, amid a debate as to who should claim his body, people in Faridkot are still reluctant to admit he belonged to their village. It needed some persuasion before a couple of them shared a few bits of information with Dawn on Wednesday.
One villager said Amir Kasab and his wife had briefly been in Faridkot a few times. From among those who did acknowledge the Kasabs had once been Faridkot residents told Dawn their house had since been “rented out”. The current occupants say they have been living there for three and a half years.
The house looks the same as it did in December 2008, but an animal shed has since taken up some part of the courtyard.
The advice given by elders to the locals has been to not discuss Ajmal Kasab with anyone. A local imam masjid reportedly used the mosque’s loudspeaker to tell his audience to stay away from the affair. It is this shield of silence that greeted journalists in Faridkot as they converged on the village again looking for stories to mark Ajmal Kasab’s hanging in distant Pune.
In the days following the Faridkot revelation in 2008, Pakistan and India remained locked in a tense exchange over the identity and origins of the Mumbai attackers. Pakistan was initially reluctant to admit that Ajmal was its national as the Indian side demanded action against the “Pakistan-based” perpetrators of the terrorist act.
Then, on Dec 10, 2008, Mahmood Durrani, adviser to the prime minister, did finally accept that Ajmal was a Pakistani citizen — a disclosure that cost Durrani his job. Around the same time, PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif told journalist Kim Barker of evidence which suggested that Ajmal did indeed belong to Faridkot. As the facts emerged, in time, Islamabad did shift from an outright denial to insisting on a distinction between the “state actors” and “non-state” actors, under pressure from India and the West to investigate and try Lashkar-e-Taiba men accused of masterminding Mumbai attacks.
Away from the trials and governmental standoffs, the phenomenon called Ajmal Kasab has received but only superficial attention and that too by and large from journalists working by short deadlines. The prosperous fields, the smoke-emitting mills and Amir Kasab’s own not-so-poor status have not prevented observers from looking at it from the classical poverty angle.
There is a book written by an Indian journalist which “dedicates several chapters to highlighting the Pakistani paradoxes that gave birth to Ajmal the terrorist” placing Faridkot “in an imaginary terrain existing at a distance from… civilisation”.
Task done? No need to explore any further and find out other linkages between Ajmal Kasab and his act, reasons such as enshrined in the thesis about clash between civilisations? It is this single-track approach that lends greater mystery to the affair, in the name of simplified reading and where discussion is stunted and an earnest probe is put on hold, denial comes easy. In the hush-hush of whispers Faridkot remains largely undiscovered beneath a pile of nationalist to administrative to faith-based excuses.

http://www.dawn.com/news/765854/the-unending-faridkot-mystery





I know the inclination is incredibly strong to hold Pakistan responsible. But this video at face value does not convey a Pakistani account. There is no Pakistani dialect like the one this person is speaking. And Pakistan isn't as big a country as India is. So it's not that difficult to know this.

Sach kiya hai? Jo apko bataya jata hai? The US killed Bin Laden. Didn't show even a body, just told the world so. We have to believe it. Just take their word for it. This is why I take such claims not that seriously.
 

CHANAKYA

Banned
The world knows pakistan as...a failed terrorist nation...with terror as state policy...dollar smitten generals...who can sell any asset of pak....the army is good enough to kill its own country men...bomb its own people and tribe....it has never won any war...so best thing it can do is....change the history books with its false bravery...a us diplomat called pakistan...a paranoid state which believes even its own lies.....
 

RiazHaq

Senator (1k+ posts)
Wonder what kind of coastguard boat is outrun by an ordinary fishing boat for an hour? An Indian Coastguard boat..


Pakistani authorities reportedly seized two Indian fishing boats on Saturday a not uncommon occurrence, but one that has prompted greater controversy following a tense week in the waters between the two countries.


The boats, containing 12 Indian fishermen, were apprehended by Pakistans Maritime Security Agency (MSA) three days after the Indian Coast Guard intercepted an alleged terrorist boat off the Gujarat coast, the Times of India reported.


The Indian authorities claim that intercepted wireless communications show the Pakistani boat, which sank about 365 km away from Indias west coast on Jan. 1, to be working with an unidentified vessel nearby and coordinating with a contact in Pakistan as well as the MSA.


A statement from Indias Defense Ministry then stated that the four people on board the boat attempted to outrun the coast guard for over an hour, following which they hid under the deck and set fire to the boat, resulting in an explosion.


However, naval officers told the Indian Express that it was not possible for a typical Pakistani fishing vessel to outrun the powerful coast guard boats, and local fishermen said they did not see a fire. Moreover, photographs released to the media of the burning boat do not show damage consistent with the detonation of explosives.


Pakistan has rubbished claims that the Jan. 1 incident could be linked to terrorism, and there are reportedly no boats unaccounted for in Keti Bandar, the Karachi port where India claims the suspicious boat originated from.


No fishing crews or boats are missing from Keti Bandar, the head of the Pakistan Fisherfolk Forum, Saeed Baloch, told the Express.


Indias Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar stuck to his guns Monday morning, telling reporters that people smuggling drugs or other contraband would have surrendered rather than martyr themselves.


Why would smugglers keep in touch with Pakistani maritime authorities? he asked, adding that he would categorize them as suspected terrorists.


But that was not enough to placate opposition parties like the Indian National Congress, who urged the government on Monday to make the evidence public.


No material evidence from the Pakistani boat or bodies of its crew has been recovered so far because of reported bad weather, but a leading coast-guard official said he was hopeful that more clues would be forthcoming. The Defense Ministry, meanwhile, has ordered a full internal review of the intercepted communications and other evidence.


http://time.com/3653303/pakistan-india-maritime-tension-terrorism/
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I know the inclination is incredibly strong to hold Pakistan responsible. But this video at face value does not convey a Pakistani account. There is no Pakistani dialect like the one this person is speaking. And Pakistan isn't as big a country as India is. So it's not that difficult to know this.

Not very clear what you are trying to say......but what I could get is.....
- there is strong inclination to falsely blame pakistan and the video is fake
- the kasab guy is not pakistani because he is not talking in any pakistani dialect
that means the guy in the video is not the same same as the guy in one of the pictures posted, may be a look alike paid Indian actor or the picture itself is fake and there was no gunman at the CST railway terminus.
 

CHANAKYA

Banned
Puri duniya ko nautanki karney ka stage pakistan mein hi milta hai....osama ko military guest house se pakda...mumbai..sab nautanki hai...naam badnaam karney ke liye...its a paranoid state which recreates histort to suit its own needs....the country doesnt hv any doctrine...two muslim neighbours. ..Afghanistan and iran is drawing swords...its delusional. ..thinks everybody is plotting against it...plays victim card and its dollar smitten generals take all the dollars...indophobia keeps the army which lost half the nation as a idara which noone can question...if u do ur against the mafaad of pakistan...its a rudreless country...u can rent its army...if Usa gives dollars it will be ready to fight saudi or iran...
 

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