Pakistani entrepreneurs arrested for allegedly stealing source code

Chachu

MPA (400+ posts)
Pakistani entrepreneurs arrested for allegedly stealing source code


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Investors Lounges Sennen D Souza. PHOTO SOURCE: TECH IN ASIA

Four members of a startup formerly incubated at Google-backed The Nest I/O have been arrested for infringing on intellectual property rights, according to local media reports in Pakistan.

The entrepreneurs run Investors Lounge, a portal for budding investors to see updated financial data on things like stocks, mutual funds, and commodities. It recently secured its first round of funding.

The four individuals Baqar Abbas Jafri, Sennen DSouza, Hammad Ali Hashmi, and Waqar Ehsan were previously associated with The Nest I/O, a startup incubator based in Karachi which has received funding from Google for Entrepreneurs, Samsung, and the US State Department.

The complainant in the case says the founders of Investors Lounge were its former employees. While at AMZ MAK Capital, they had been given the task of building a social media platform for investors. Instead they allegedly stole the source code and used it to build an alternative product with a few minor modifications.

After the product was developed, all the above named four employees, along with the head of software programing and project head, quit at the same time taking the source code along with them, says a statement from the complainant provided today to Tech in Asia. The mastermind behind this fraud, Baqar Abbas Jafri, re-launched the same website few months later, which was the idea and property of AMZ MAK Capital, by changing a few interfaces while keeping the exact same idea and the source code.

Mir Mohammad Ali Khan, the CEO of AMZ MAK Capital, said he took to the courts to prevent the entrepreneurs from running away with the idea. After hearing the merits of the case, the judge decided to issue arrest warrants. The source code is valued at US$140,000.

A formal trial will now be held to determine the outcome of the case.

However, the team behind Investors Lounge categorically denies the accusations. In a press statement they said they created new and original software code for Investors Lounge portal with the assistance of shared content recently purchased from recognised vendors with the specific intention of using such shared content for Investors Lounge only.

Jehan Ara, the head of Nest I/O, says the case is totally without any merit. This is a false accusation, she outlines. I know these youngsters personally and the product was created from scratch [] It is heartbreaking and totally unjust that these young entrepreneurs who have struggled so much and worked so hard to get to this stage should be put through this. I stand by them.


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Politically1981

MPA (400+ posts)
Bloody thieves. That's why I never hired a developer in Pakistan. Keep giving a bad name to Pakistan and when you steal, keep justifying it. So easy to copy a code, change the interface and relaunch it but only thieves will do it and we have no scarcity of them. Even mark of Facebook hid the idea from his friends.
 

Politically1981

MPA (400+ posts)
Don't talk about prime minister. He is ill. This is our mentality, when a thief is ill, we shall not discuss him because he is ill. We must hang their dead bodies if they have stolen money
 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
Never trusted on Pakistani developers or IT industry. Indian's are much more professionals and skilled.
This is the reason that all big companies like google, Apple, Microsoft and thousands big names have development centers in India but noon of them have in Pakistan.
 
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arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Never trusted on Pakistani developers or IT industry. Indian's are much more professionals and skilled.
This is the reason that all big companies like google, Apple, Microsoft and thousands big names have development centers in India but noon of them have in Pakistan.

actually my clients tell me they have worse experience with indians.
 

DaPainKiller

Senator (1k+ posts)

aimless

Minister (2k+ posts)
Never trusted on Pakistani developers or IT industry. Indian's are much more professionals and skilled.
This is the reason that all big companies like google, Apple, Microsoft and thousands big names have development centers in India but noon of them have in Pakistan.

what a bullshit :P ... i never heard more bullshit in 3 lines ... seems ur an indian ...



First IT industry is full of thieves starting from Bill gates , Steve Jobs ...till Mark Zuckerberg
.
Learn the history be4 start talking

2nd There r no worst IT developer than of India .. for sure u have no idea how Indian IT industry got big :P becz u seems extreme ignorant person anyway
 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
hahaha it is natural from us Pakistanis as we like to live in fool's world.
So you mean all those big IT giants like to have worst IT developers and CEO's from India to run their companies.


what a bullshit :P ... i never heard more bullshit in 3 lines ... seems ur an indian ...



First IT industry is full of thieves starting from Bill gates , Steve Jobs ...till Mark Zuckerberg
.
Learn the history be4 start talking

2nd There r no worst IT developer than of India .. for sure u have no idea how Indian IT industry got big :P becz u seems extreme ignorant person anyway
 

aimless

Minister (2k+ posts)
hahaha it is natural from us Pakistanis as we like to live in fool's world.
So you mean all those big IT giants like to have worst IT developers and CEO's from India to run their companies.


Chacha jee :P India is very big if u take average ... u will know their abilities ... plus Indian labor was cheap ...

Let me put this way ... do u think german products are better or chines ? we all know Germans r better but then why the whole world is asking china to make things ... simple they r a lot and thats y they r very cheap ... so if u get an average quality stuff for very low price ppl go with it ; Including bigggg companies :P like APPLE and SONY and microsoft and google

Its nature of Pakistani that they talk logic and with Data i think u have spent too much time with indians so ur brain is unable to c the logic.
 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
We are talking about IT industry so stick to the topic.

Here you are stuck in your own statement. Now you are accepting in your own words that Indian and China are developing quality products in cheap prices.
Hope Pakistan can do the same as we also have the manpower but we are lacking the education and skills. The big and main reason that we are missing business environment that these big companies can not take risk to do much investment and can not open their production centers in Pakistan.

I think you want to talk with Logic and data. Can you put the IT export of India and Pakistan.

IT export from India is over $17 Billion whereas Pakistan is less than 0.25 Billion.

Chacha jee :P India is very big if u take average ... u will know their abilities ... plus Indian labor was cheap ...

Let me put this way ... do u think german products are better or chines ? we all know Germans r better but then why the whole world is asking china to make things ... simple they r a lot and thats y they r very cheap ... so if u get an average quality stuff for very low price ppl go with it ; Including bigggg companies :P like APPLE and SONY and microsoft and google

Its nature of Pakistani that they talk logic and with Data i think u have spent too much time with indians so ur brain is unable to c the logic.
 

aimless

Minister (2k+ posts)
We are talking about IT industry so stick to the topic.

Here you are stuck in your own statement. Now you are accepting in your own words that Indian and China are developing quality products in cheap prices.
Hope Pakistan can do the same as we also have the manpower but we are lacking the education and skills. The big and main reason that we are missing business environment that these big companies can not take risk to do much investment and can not open their production centers in Pakistan.

I think you want to talk with Logic and data. Can you put the IT export of India and Pakistan.

IT export from India is over $17 Billion whereas Pakistan is less than 0.25 Billion.


I gave u example where i said quality do not matter :P i don't know u reach to other conclusion as i gave example of germany vs china ...


Anyway Pak IT is low and down ... I know that but its not becz we don't provide good quality but in contrast we provide way good quality than Indians ... other wise why would we even get any IT work from the world when everything was in India ...


I my self is running an IT company in Pakistan for last 5.5 yrs and i run in from EU for last 4 yrs ... I think Pakistani IT guyz are amazing .. i also gave work to indians and bangalis ... but trust me there is a huge difference of Quality ...


Anyway i cannot claim whole indian IT guyz are bad but i again will say the same .. u have to see in ratios when ur compairing things ... if india give 100 projects in which 75 are good and Pakistani do 10 projects and give 9 good ones then i will trust Pakistani more

Plus read the history how india get all those companies ... and thanks to NS why Pakistan didn't allow big companies to come to Pak ... u will now it wasn't IT industry it was our Indian loving PM who made indian IT big and our small
 

Competent

Minister (2k+ posts)
How can you say that Indian and China do not provide quality. where all those big IT companies are developing quality products from India.

what is the name of you company so that I will check if that has any comparison or not. How big is your IT team? Can you name any Pakistani IT company that we can even compare internationally.

I think your maths is really weak when you compare India with Pakistan. India has Big It industry because they have skills and best business environment but Pakistan has none.

I gave u example where i said quality do not matter :P i don't know u reach to other conclusion as i gave example of germany vs china ...


Anyway Pak IT is low and down ... I know that but its not becz we don't provide good quality but in contrast we provide way good quality than Indians ... other wise why would we even get any IT work from the world when everything was in India ...


I my self is running an IT company in Pakistan for last 5.5 yrs and i run in from EU for last 4 yrs ... I think Pakistani IT guyz are amazing .. i also gave work to indians and bangalis ... but trust me there is a huge difference of Quality ...


Anyway i cannot claim whole indian IT guyz are bad but i again will say the same .. u have to see in ratios when ur compairing things ... if india give 100 projects in which 75 are good and Pakistani do 10 projects and give 9 good ones then i will trust Pakistani more

Plus read the history how india get all those companies ... and thanks to NS why Pakistan didn't allow big companies to come to Pak ... u will now it wasn't IT industry it was our Indian loving PM who made indian IT big and our small
 

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