Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Threads - Collection

Azaad Alfaaz

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Sorry urdu main translate kar do phir agay baat ho gi.
Yar tumari Arabic bhi kamzor hai !! Hadits ki arabic toa phar loo ,, arabic meh baraber kheen nahi likah !! translator neh apney app see azafa kia hai " ke saab bara ber hai !!
OR Hadis or Quran ke aya ko compare karo !! is meh kia chees missing hai ? Quran ke aya 275 sura 2 meh sood dehney waley ke barey meh missing hai !!
Koyee asee Quran kee aya show karo jis meh sood dehney waley ke barey meh bhee saza liki ho ! jese aya 275 sura 2 meh sood LEYNEY WALA ( KHANEY WAL ) ke barey meh saza hai !!

Please Yar yeh batey tumarey sir se upper se guzar rahi hai !!!
JO cheeze samaj nah ayee Deen key baray meh osey chor do !!! AYEH SAAB ULMAH kehtey hai !! tumahri zindagi meh koyee basic fark nahi paray ga !!
NAh SOOD lo NAH SOOD DO ! simple !! meh Sood ke kud bohat sakt kilaf hoon ,, But i THANK YOU for Point out Video of GAHMDI jis ke dehney key baad mere ILAM meh IZAFA howa hao .
Thank you
 

paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Yar tumari Arabic bhi kamzor hai !! Hadits ki arabic toa phar loo ,, arabic meh baraber kheen nahi likah !! translator neh apney app see azafa kia hai " ke saab bara ber hai !!
OR Hadis or Quran ke aya ko compare karo !! is meh kia chees missing hai ? Quran ke aya 275 sura 2 meh sood dehney waley ke barey meh missing hai !!
Koyee asee Quran kee aya show karo jis meh sood dehney waley ke barey meh bhee saza liki ho ! jese aya 275 sura 2 meh sood LEYNEY WALA ( KHANEY WAL ) ke barey meh saza hai !!

Please Yar yeh batey tumarey sir se upper se guzar rahi hai !!!
JO cheeze samaj nah ayee Deen key baray meh osey chor do !!! AYEH SAAB ULMAH kehtey hai !! tumahri zindagi meh koyee basic fark nahi paray ga !!
NAh SOOD lo NAH SOOD DO ! simple !! meh Sood ke kud bohat sakt kilaf hoon ,, But i THANK YOU for Point out Video of GAHMDI jis ke dehney key baad mere ILAM meh IZAFA howa hao .
Thank you

Acha tu sirf tumarey ghamdi fitna ko hi POORA deen sirf samjha agaya????

baaki aaj tak jitnay 4 imaam sarey ULema karam kam-ilm thay??

ghamdi fitnay ney akar poora Islaam main nai nai batein ijaad karli tu is ka matlab wo sahi hai aur baaki sarey loog ghalat hain aur un ki ARABIC bhi sahi nahi sirf ghamdi FITNAY ki Arabic sahi hai Wah wah kia logic hai aap ki..

Q) tum ghamdi ki kon kon se jhootey akaid ko defend karo gay? kia tum Hazrat Essa alahey salam k nai aney ko defend karo gay????

Q) kia tum hazrat Mehdi alehay salam ka koi wajood nahi is ko defend karo gay??

(ab tumara ghamdi fitna hadees bhi jhutlaney lagay ga saha sata ki books ki).



aur aap ka ye kehna k banda 200, 500 Rs k liye baniye ka paas jai ga,tu aap meray aik saawal ka jawab do k jo loog Bank se sood letay hain un k barey main tumara kia kahayl hai??kia wo halal hai ya haram??
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

baaki aaj tak jitnay 4 imaam sarey ULema karam kam-ilm thay??

Q) kia tum hazrat Mehdi alehay salam ka koi wajood nahi is ko defend karo gay??

Imamo Ki baat aaiy to Imam Malik ka Mahdi kay baray me kiya hayal hai?

Or Abu Hanifa kay nazdeeq nasoot e rasalt ki saza kiya hai?
 
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paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Imamo Ki baat aaiy to Imam Malik ka Mahdi kay baray me kiya hayal hai?

Or Abu Hanifa kay nazdeeq nasoot e rasalt ki saza kiya hai?

Tum batao tum kon se Imam ko follow kartey ho???

YA tum sirf Ghamdi o pervezi fitnay ko follow kartey ho??
 

Azaad Alfaaz

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Acha tu sirf tumarey ghamdi fitna ko hi POORA deen sirf samjha agaya????

baaki aaj tak jitnay 4 imaam sarey ULema karam kam-ilm thay??

ghamdi fitnay ney akar poora Islaam main nai nai batein ijaad karli tu is ka matlab wo sahi hai aur baaki sarey loog ghalat hain aur un ki ARABIC bhi sahi nahi sirf ghamdi FITNAY ki Arabic sahi hai Wah wah kia logic hai aap ki..

Q) tum ghamdi ki kon kon se jhootey akaid ko defend karo gay? kia tum Hazrat Essa alahey salam k nai aney ko defend karo gay????

Q) kia tum hazrat Mehdi alehay salam ka koi wajood nahi is ko defend karo gay??

(ab tumara ghamdi fitna hadees bhi jhutlaney lagay ga saha sata ki books ki).



aur aap ka ye kehna k banda 200, 500 Rs k liye baniye ka paas jai ga,tu aap meray aik saawal ka jawab do k jo loog Bank se sood letay hain un k barey main tumara kia kahayl hai??kia wo halal hai ya haram??

Barey ajeeb baat,,
Ans 1) Allah know best key Hazarat Isa (peace be upon him) ayen gay ya nahi ! I dont know
Ans 2) IMAM MEHDI asaal word matalb yeh hai !
IMAM = Leader in URDU SERBARA !!
MEHDI = Righteous in URDU SACHA
IMAM MEHDI = SACHA SERBARA " Allah Hum per reham karey ho IMAM MEHDI atah kerey " Ameen

jo bank see sood lehtey hai wo haram kahtey hai !

So far Qamdi ney koyee finat nahi phelayeh ,,, Asaal Finta yeh Qadari or is jese? jo Qabaro kee pooja kerety hai or Happy birthday manatey hai NABIYOON KEE , Qlander ko Perfect kehtey hai
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Tum batao tum kon se Imam ko follow kartey ho???

YA tum sirf Ghamdi o pervezi fitnay ko follow kartey ho??

Me sirf Quran or Sunnah ko follow krta hu... Or tamam Imamo ki Izzat krta hu

Hazoor SAW ki zaat kay baad koi Ek esi shaksiyat nahi hai jis kay alfaaz hatmi hai or me kisi ko kisi darjay me unki adna insani hesiyat se ziyada nahi manta

Tum konsay Imam ko follow krtay ho? Imam Mullah Omer?
 
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paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Me sirf Quran or Sunnah ko follow krta hu... Or tamam Imamo ki Izzat krta hu

Hazoor SAW ki zaat kay baad koi Ek esi shaksiyat nahi hai jis kay alfaaz hatmi hai or me kisi ko kisi darjay me unki adna insani hesiyat se ziyada nahi manta

Tum konsay Imam ko follow krtay ho? Imam Mullah Omer?


Agar tum kisi k alfaaz ko hatmi nahi maantey tu phir ghamdi k alfaaz ko bhi hatmi nahi mantey??

jin baton ka poori UMMAt ka itefaak start se raha hai ,un baton ko bhi ghamdi fitney ney change kion kar diya hai.

Jo batein tumari ghamdi fitney ney ijaad ki hain wo akhir aaj tak kisi Alim ko samajh kion nahi ai???
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: ارباب منہاج القرآن کی خدمت میں

As far as my study of the quran goes, I found no translation of the quran good enough for representing the message of the quran.

The main reasons are;

1)the quranic words are concept based and can only and only be explained because the language in those times used to work that way.

2)Some languages use words that are more inclusive or have wider implication and other languages have no such equivalent words to be equally accommodating for expressing the ideas but on the other hand some languages have better words for expressing precision than others.

3)not only that but understanding of the messages context is also of vital importance because if the context and perspective is not understood then whatever is expressed as equivalent will not convey the desired meanings. For examle, if we take islam as a deen then same words will mean very different than if we took islam as a mazhab. The problem will become yet more confusing if we took it in a sort of mixed way ie took islam as a deen and mazhab.

4)Yet other problem is that people replace the actual message of the quran by so called hadith reports as the prophetic explanation of the quran or use other riwayaat and saying of the scholars.

If one followed the rules I have explained for explanation of the quran one is likely to make least number of such mistakes.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: ارباب منہاج القرآن کی خدمت میں

Ghamdi is MU'ATAZALI and padri is LA DEEN.
 
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

who the hell you are to decide..... stop giving fatwas and just concentrate on your doings.......

Im not giving any fatwa . if a so called muslim tries to twist the basic beliefs of islam, then every muslim should stand up or atleast condemn it instead of defending him
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Javed Ahmad ghamidi great answer

Tum batao tum kon se Imam ko follow kartey ho???

YA tum sirf Ghamdi o pervezi fitnay ko follow kartey ho??

are bhai paki muslim sb aap ko maloom hona chahiye sab musalmaanu ka ambiyaa samait imaam sirf aur sirf quran hai jo kitabe mubeen hai. itibaa ka maani kisi ke peechhe chalna nahin hai balkeh kisi ke saath amlan qadam milaa kar chalna hai kisi maqsad ke liye. ambiyaa ka saath sirf is liye diya jaata hai kyunkeh woh khudaa ki taraf se mission par hote hen. un kji muhim ko kaamyaab karne main madadgaar hona hi ambiyaa ki sachi itibaa hai. sir phire mullah ke chamche ban kar andhun ki tarah un ke peechhe peechhe chalna islam nahin hai jahaalat aur himaaqat hai.

samajhdaar insaan woh hen jo har kisi ki poori baat ko ghoro fikar ke liye sunte hen phir agar un ko aqlan us main behtari maloom hoti hai to us baat ka saath dete hen warna us baat ko rad kar ke aage badh jaate hen.

aap apne saathiyun samaaith apni posts ko padho aur meri posts ko bhi padho aur faraq khud hi dekh lo.

apne har aik molvi ki har aik baat ko samjho aur phir un ki socho samajh ka parwez ki socho samajh se muaazna kar lo khud hi maloom ho jaaye ga kis kis ki kon kon si baat aqlan aur naqlan drust hai aur kahan kahan par baatun ko samjhne ki abhi mazeed zaroorat baaqi hai.

main aap logoon ko baar baar samjhaa rahaa hun keh abhi quran ki samajh insaniyat ko nahin aayee. is par abhi ghoro fikar ki intahae zaroorat hai. yeh baat aap ko samajh nahin aa rahee keh abhi insaani fikar quran ko saheeh tor par samjhne ki satah par nahin pohnchi. yeh koi mamoli kitaab nahin hai aap bas alif baa padh kar is ko samajh len.

yeh is jahan ka insaan ke haatun musakhar hona bataati hai, kia aap ne is jahan ko musakhar kar liye hai apne molavyun samait? agar aap ko quran ki baaten abhi samajh main nahin aa rahee hen to sabar se kaam len aur taleem jaari rakhen doosrun se bekaar ladayee jhagde main apna waqt kyun zaaya kar rehe ho.

main aap ko bhi support karta hun jin baatun main aap drust maloom hote ho aur deegar logoon ko bhi jahan un ki baaten drust maloom hoti hen. insaan ko aqal seekhni padti hai khud bakhud nahin aati. is liye aap bhi ilm seekhne main khud ko masroof karo. molavyun ke peechhe chal pade to kaam ho gayaa aap ka.

apni fikri saliyat ko buland karo aur apni baatun se ham ko bhi samjhaa bujhaa kar aqal sikhaao bebunyaad aqeede nahin. jin baatun main aap masroof ho un main ummat ki barbaadi hai. is liye ke aap insaani soch ko oopar utane hi nahin dena chahte aur apne molavyun ki soch ki had tak mehdood karna chahte ho, bhai kuchh to aqal se kaam lo.

ilm par kisi ki ajaara dari nahin honi chahiye kyunkeh yeh insaniyat ki mushtarik asaas hai. har insaan kuchh na kuchh soch raha hai kuchh na kuchh behtar hi kar raha hai aur usi ka nateejah hai keh aaj insaaniyat is maqaam par pohnchi.

agar aap koi achhi baat karo ge to ham bhi ap hi ka saath den ge aur agar aap aisi batn karo ge jin se insaniyat ko nuqsan pohnche to aap kaise ham ko apna saath dene ke liye qaail kar sakte hen aisi baaten kar ke jaisi aap kar rehe ho? is liye apni soch ko bedaar karo aur kuchh behtar karne ki koshish karo.

aap ghamdi sb ko fitna fasaad bataa rehe ho aur ap ko apna peda kiya huwa fitna fasaad nazar nahin aa raha? agar aap ghoro fikar karen ge to tasub ki pati aankhun se utar jaaye gi. islam sirf amal main hi insaaf se kaam lene ka dars nahin deta soch bhi insaaf par mabni karne ki dawat deta hai.

kia aap bataa sakte ho woh kon saa raasta hai jo ham ko yeh bataa de ke aap ki soch drust hai aur baaqi sab log ghalat hen? agar aap ko shok hai to is par behs kar lete hen? quran main isi liye kaha gayaa hai logoon ko kaho aisi bunyaad par apni soch ki imaarat banaayen jo pakki ho. jis ko koi bhi sahibe aqlo daanish hilaa na sake. aap meri baatun par ghoro fikar kar ke khud dekh len kis ki baatun ki bunyaad pakki hai jis ko koi sahibe aqal hilaa nahin sakta?

meri baaten le kar apne kisi bhi molvi ke paas jaayen aur dekhen agar woh in baatun ko apni jaga se hilaa sakta hai. aap ko khud hi andaaza ho jaaye ga aap ka molvi kitne paani main hai.

aap ko parwez sb ki baaten har hal main sunani chaiyen aur phir un par khoob dat kar tanqeed karni chahiye jahan jahan un ki baaten aap ko ghalat saabit ho jayen.

mujhe maloom hai woh kahan kahan ghalti par hen magar woh un baatun par sochne ke moqe se mehroom reh gaye. insaan ki zindagi mehdood hai isi liye woh sochne ke liye itna waqt hi nahin paata. idhar soch bedaar hona shuru hui udhar mot ka waqt qareeb aan pohncha. yahee wajah hai insaaniyat nasal dar nasal bahot hi kam raftaar se chal rahee hai. aap apni zindagi par ghor karo. aap peda hote hi phd na the. jahan tak aap ponche ho us main bhi najaane kitna waqt aur kitni mehnat lagi kitne logoon ki jin ko aap jaante bhi nahin ho.

is liye insaanu ki qadar karna sekho aur har kisi ke peechhe paaglun ki tarah laathi le kar mat bhaago. isse insaan ki khud apni izzate nafs zakhmi hoti hai.

aap ne agar meri post padhne ki takleef gawara ki hai to aap dekh lijiye insaan ko aik doosre ko samjhne aur samjhaane ke liye kitni mehnat karni padti hai.

agar aap ko doosrun ki mehnat ka ehsaas hi nahin to phir koi kia keh sakta hai.

Allah ham sab ko baatun ko samjhne aur samjhaane ki towfeeq de ta keh ham miljul kar insaaniyat ko farogh de saken.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: ارباب منہاج القرآن کی خدمت میں

Ghamdi is MU'ATAZALI and padri is LA DEEN.

bhai karachiwala sb, aap ki baat se maloom hota hai aap ke siwaa duniya main aur koi sahibe aqalo baseerat hai hi nahin. kia baat aap ki, ab to aap ne khud hi fatwe jaari karne shuru kar diye. aik na aik din aisa hona hi tha kyunkeh jis rah par aap chal rehe o us ka anjaam yahee hai. abhi bhi waqt hai bhai sb apne kandun par uthaaya huwa wazan istemaal kar lo. aap to jhagdalun auratun ki tarah taano tashnee par apni poori imaarat tayaar kar rehe hen. kia achha hota apne socho wichaar se kuchh ilmo fikar ko phelaate?

Allah ham sab ko towfeq de aqlo fikar se kaam lene ki.
 

کی جاناں میں کون

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

http://www.daanish.tv/


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TONIC

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

He is creating doubts in people mind about Islam......seems like people who have understood Islam for last 1400 years are wrong and these self proclaimed scholars know more....:naooz:
 

Not Mad

Citizen
Re: Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

Right or wrong, but he is one of the most logical persons existing on this planet earth.
Peace. :)
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

کیوں جناب دیکھنے کو یہی "لگھڑ بگڑ " ہی ره گیا ہے
سونے پر سہاگہ بھگوڑا بھی ہے
 

paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

ye fitna phir agaya,ab is ko kuch bola ga tu hasb e mamol qadiani is ko defend karney ajai gay. pata nahi in pervezi,ghamdi aur qadiani main kia un dekhay tallukaat hain.
 

paki-muslim

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Watch live Javed Ahmed Ghamdi

Right or wrong, but he is one of the most logical persons existing on this planet earth.
Peace. :)

kia logical hai?? jab bhi is k cheeley se poocho k is fitney ney sood denay ko hala kion kaha,hadith kion nahi maantey,Hazrat Imam Mehjdi A.S ka inkaar kion kartey ho,Azab e qabar ko kion nahi maantey,sharab,zana ki saza main takhfeef kion kartey ho tu wo bhaag jatey hain.