"Intelligent'' Atheists Left Speechless On A Question on Evolution

chandaa

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Amazing, scientists have even discovered the tiny germs which can be seen by microscope but yet failed to discover the true CREATOR (ALLAH) who has created the beautiful and giant universe.:(
 
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BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Hazrat Adam came from another planet and he was alone and Maay Hawaa was born through cloning and her DNA was taken from the rib of Hazart Adam. No evolution here and one day we all have to go to that far off Planet from where Hazrat Adam came from. What do you think???
 

Aik_Sawal

Minister (2k+ posts)
Amazing, scientists have even discovered the tiny germs which can be seen bi microscope but yet failed to discover the true CREATOR (ALLAH) who has created the beautiful and giant universe.:(
Clearly all the scientist are "in" on the sazish.

I mean, I for one wish to banish all these so-called "scientists" from this earth because all the do is lie and cheat.

I will then replace them with religious scholars and then the world will be really really peaceful and prosper.

Really I tell you, I will do it. Don't you stop me from my fantastic ideas...
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Religion is a science but very difficult to understand and explain. When your religion says," speak the truth" believe me speaking the truth keeps you away from a lot of future problems that it is just impossible to prove before they happen. but you can show with the help of math that there will be a solar eclipse in the future and when.
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And also if you remember the story of Qoom-e-Lote and two people came to give them guidance and they were wearing shining dress!!!! like I say astronauts. So there is perhaps a planet far far away.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
This video is cheesy but extremely counterproductive for extremely superstitious and jahil Pakistani society.

The evolution through genetic mutation is an observable fact. The 80% of the food that is eaten in Europe, North America and many other parts of the world is genetically modified food. The food has longer shelf life, has more nutrition, and it tastes better. If man can induce genetic evolution then God can too.

Its been known for a fact that cosmic rays (from sun i.e. alpha, gamma, and beta) induce genetic mutation. But now man has taken control and can do it as and when he wishes. Some international protocols/ treaties prevent scientists to perform certain genetic experiments (for good reasons) otherwise scientists can make a man out of a monkey or vice versa any time. Check this website for the protocol:

http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/en/Treaties/Html/203.htm

I would request all Pakistanis to step out of this jihalat and accept the science for what it is.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
It had been suggested that the Hindu god Ganesh was in fact an astronaut and his proboscis was in fact the breathing tube from his pressure suit. Over the years the pressure suit became the body of the elephant. Lets stay from this pseudo-science ok?

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And also if you remember the story of Qoom-e-Lote and two people came to give them guidance and they were wearing shining dress!!!! like I say astronauts. So there is perhaps a planet far far away.
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This video is cheesy but extremely counterproductive for extremely superstitious and jahil Pakistani society.

The evolution through genetic mutation is an observable fact. The 80% of the food that is eaten in Europe, North America and many other parts of the world is genetically modified food. The food has longer shelf life, has more nutrition, and it tastes better. If man can induce genetic evolution then God can too.

Its been known for a fact that cosmic rays (from sun i.e. alpha, gamma, and beta) induce genetic mutation. But now man has taken control and can do it as and when he wishes. Some international protocols/ treaties prevent scientists to perform certain genetic experiments (for good reasons) otherwise scientists can make a man out of a monkey or vice versa any time. Check this website for the protocol:

http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/en/Treaties/Html/203.htm

I would request all Pakistanis to step out of this jihalat and accept the science for what it is.

Evolution is unproven science, Islam and Evolution are compatible, Evolution to a point where a giraffe neck became long over a period of time,

But a perfect example right infront our noses is the INDUS river Dolphins which are genetically seperated from ocean dolphins for over 50 MILLION years.

Yet the dolphin is still a dollphin only diffrence is the adaption to the enviornment and physical features.
Gentically its still a species of the dolphin, looks like a dolphin swims like a dolphin, breathes like an dolphin and so on so forth.

I am open to evolution, but the father of Evolution Darwin only prposed his observations not experiments.

Just like old world though that the Sun and the moon go around the earth according to their observations.
 

Aik_Sawal

Minister (2k+ posts)
but the father of Evolution Darwin only prposed his observations not experiments.
It's not Darwin's fault if humanity wasn't at a point where they could scientifically experiment on his observations.

For example, Einstein's mass into energy conversion was only not experimented by him. Later on humanity found out experiments which were in line with his calculations.

Like that, recent bio-genetics studies, especially ones on genetic mutation are in line with Darwin's theory.

You saying Darwin is wrong doesn't change the fact that leading Biologists and scientists in the world are find his theory to be true. You and your religious scholars can sit in a corner and whine and protest on the streets but facts are facts.
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It's not Darwin's fault if humanity wasn't at a point where they could scientifically experiment on his observations.

For example, Einstein's mass into energy conversion was only not experimented by him. Later on humanity found out experiments which were in line with his calculations.

Like that, recent bio-genetics studies, especially ones on genetic mutation are in line with Darwin's theory.

You saying Darwin is wrong doesn't change the fact that leading Biologists and scientists in the world are find his theory to be true. You and your religious scholars can sit in a corner and whine and protest on the streets but facts are facts.

Evolutionist are just as blind and dead brain as the Mullahs, people like you refuse to use your brain. You are spoon fed crap and you like it.

There is no PROOF of "THEORY" of evolution otherwise it will be called "LAW" of evolution.

As a person of science i can tell you genetic mutation DOES NOT mean evolution. So please educate yourself before you start believing in crap.
 
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Aik_Sawal

Minister (2k+ posts)
...There is no PROOF of "THEORY" of evolution otherwise it will be called "LAW" of evolution...
Worst excuse I've heard. So by that logic, until Newton devised an experiment to measure and calculate acceleration due to gravity, gravity just was a theory.

Or, before Hubble saw the blackholes as predicted by Hawkings, they just existed in theory.

Or before Einstein's theory was put in experiment through nuclear fission, the sun generated light in theory only.

Or before scientists calculated the speed of light as the universal constant, every photon used to do whatever the hell it felt like.

What a joke!

...As a person of science i can tell you gentic mutation DOES NOT mean evolution. ..
Two things:
1) please tell me what does it mean to be 'as a person of science'.
2) genetic mutation IS the textbook definition of evolution. Please learn the definition at least before you start shooting in the dark.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Whether Islam is compatible with Evolution or not is not Science's problem. Science is what it is i.e. knowledge at a given point of time. The phenomenon, such as blinding of Indus River Dolphin, elongation of giraffes necks or bending of beaks of finches are all triggered by genetic mutation. An analogy of genes could be made with a switch board; genes are like on and off switches that turn certain features of the organism on or off. For example, in case of Indus River Dolphins, some "thing" turned the gene that controls sight off just as "something" turns the gene that controls skin pigment off in albinos. After genetic mapping human beings are now able to turn genes on and off but that trigger mechanism that causes the evolution at mega scale is not known yet. So in short, we now have the knowledge how evolution happens, but what triggers it is not known.


Evolution is unproven science, Islam and Evolution are compatible, Evolution to a point where a giraffe neck became long over a period of time,

But a perfect example right infront our noses is the INDUS river Dolphins which are genetically seperated from ocean dolphins for over 50 MILLION years.

Yet the dolphin is still a dollphin only diffrence is the adaption to the enviornment and physical features.
Gentically its still a species of the dolphin, looks like a dolphin swims like a dolphin, breathes like an dolphin and so on so forth.

I am open to evolution, but the father of Evolution Darwin only prposed his observations not experiments.

Just like old world though that the Sun and the moon go around the earth according to their observations.
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Worst excuse I've heard. So by that logic, until Newton devised an experiment to measure and calculate acceleration due to gravity, gravity just was a theory.

Or, before Hubble saw the blackholes as predicted by Hawkings, they just existed in theory.

Or before Einstein's theory was put in experiment through nuclear fission, the sun generated light in theory only.

Or before scientists calculated the speed of light as the universal constant, every photon used to do whatever the hell it felt like.

What a joke!


Two things:
1) please tell me what does it mean to be 'as a person of science'.
2) genetic mutation IS the textbook definition of evolution. Please learn the definition at least before you start shooting in the dark.

You have no idea what you are talking about, evolution has been proven wrong in every aspect, the only thing idiots like you have to hold on to now is mutation.

You imbecille Mutation does not mean the species change. Mutation (in evoltuion sense) mean DNA adapting to the damage to the nucleid bond. It could be positive insense that the body adapts to a disease. or mostly negative where it cause damage to the gene.

Stop reading one liners and think you know what evolution is.

Don't resond untill you have throughly studied mutations.
 

NasNY

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Whether Islam is compatible with Evolution or not is not Science's problem. Science is what it is i.e. knowledge at a given point of time. The phenomenon, such as blinding of Indus River Dolphin, elongation of giraffes necks or bending of beaks of finches are all triggered by genetic mutation. An analogy of genes could be made with a switch board; genes are like on and off switches that turn certain features of the organism on or off. For example, in case of Indus River Dolphins, some "thing" turned the gene that controls sight off just as "something" turns the gene that controls skin pigment off in albinos. After genetic mapping human beings are now able to turn genes on and off but that trigger mechanism that causes the evolution at mega scale is not known yet. So in short, we now have the knowledge how evolution happens, but what triggers it is not known.


I agree with all you said, i do beleive in evolution as a species adapts to its enviornment and existing genes in a species are turned on and off. or a body adapting to viral bacterial chemical and radition to survive and modifing genes in the process.

I dont beleive in a change of species from one to another.

I dont believe in evolution of the species from a monkey to a human. or a fish to a snake etc.
 

Exiled-Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
I would suggest that you read some more about gene splicing, which is apart from on and off mechanism of genes. In lay man terms, gene splicing can alter the specie as well. It means, it is possible that man could mutate from ape. For obvious reasons gene splicing is done in extremely controlled environment. Following are the pictures of genetically spliced fish where the genes of zebra fish (phylum chordate specie) and jelly fish (phylum Cnidaria) are combined to make a new specie called Glo-fish, which are luminescent at night. read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GloFish





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I agree with all you said, i do beleive in evolution as a species adapts to its enviornment and existing genes in a species are turned on and off. or a body adapting to viral bacterial chemical and radition to survive and modifing genes in the process.

I dont beleive in a change of species from one to another.

I dont believe in evolution
 

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