"Intelligent'' Atheists Left Speechless On A Question on Evolution

[DNICE1]

There is politics involved in promoting Darwinian Theory of Evolution. The key politics is the fact that it provides the the fundamental defendability or legitimacy to the atheist religion i.e. the people who BELIEVE that God does not exist. Yes, atheism is also a dogma until proven otherwise. In Europe after renaissance and subsequently in North America Christianity lost its political clout to the atheism and atheism enforces its political will by Secularism.

I totally agree!

The contention that a new specie cannot emerge from a previous species is not correct. The Glo-fish is a new specie, but it still looks like a fish because it is a chimera with jelly fish. It would have been quite possible to genetically engineer jelly fish tentacles on the zebra fish. Similarly, humans do look closer to Chimpanzees and apes rather than a starfish or a dog. All I am saying is that through natural mutation the evolution of man from an ape is probable but not impossible. Through induced genetics sky is the limit.

I beg to disagree on this point just because of one very hard fact, if man evolved from an ape and we have been able to find hundreds of thousands of fossils of various different species dating millions of years back and since evolution is perceived to be such an ultra slow process which could take thousands if not millions of years then why have we not been able to find a single fossilised remain of the evolving human being? Why can't we find the missing links between a Neanderthal and a Homosapien for example?

As a Muslim I cannot believe in evolution and so far it hasn't been proven by science but I believe in mutation which I believe cannot completely transform a specie into a new specie and can be seen in animals. Genetic mutation or rather genetic deformities can sometimes be seen in humans when babies in some cases have been born with extra limbs etc.

 

[Exiled-Pakistani]

You have used the word "believe" several times in your post. Science does not deal with belief, instead it looks at cold hard verifiable facts and evidence. Yes, the "missing link" is still missing, but at the end of the day it will still remain an assumption even if we find it. It will take way more than just finding it to conclusively prove the man-ape relationship, if there is any. Right now it is just a probability, which genetic sciences confirm that may have happened.

Now lets come to belief part. Our belief is that all humans descended from Adam. But if we look at humans today, there are several species of humans co-existing today. That confirms that both genotype and phenotype mutation among humans has occurred, which has separated us from each other e.g. African blacks, African Browns, European Whites, Caucasians, Slovaks, Chinese, South Asians (us), Vietnamese, Australian aboriginals, American aboriginals and so on and so forth. This mutation may still be happening e.g. Chinese are getting taller and stronger, from their older generation just decades ago. So if you don't believe in genetics then what is your belief, did each human specie had their own Adam? or if there was one Adam, was he black, white, or Brown or Chinese.

I totally agree!



I beg to disagree on this point just because of one very hard fact, if man evolved from an ape and we have been able to find hundreds of thousands of fossils of various different species dating millions of years back and since evolution is perceived to be such an ultra slow process which could take thousands if not millions of years then why have we not been able to find a single fossilised remain of the evolving human being? Why can't we find the missing links between a Neanderthal and a Homosapien for example?

As a Muslim I cannot believe in evolution and so far it hasn't been proven by science but I believe in mutation which I believe cannot completely transform a specie into a new specie and can be seen in animals. Genetic mutation or rather genetic deformities can sometimes be seen in humans when babies in some cases have been born with extra limbs etc.

 

[Sachbolo]

You didn't get the point of course it changed to a glow fish as you said but not a fish to an elephant or what ever it remained a fish. just like if one person from sub sahara desert marries a Caucasian women the child will have some features from father and some from mother or just from one but still the kid will be a human kid not a panda.

 

[DNICE1]

You have used the word "believe" several times in your post. Science does not deal with belief, instead it looks at cold hard verifiable facts and evidence. Yes, the "missing link" is still missing, but at the end of the day it will still remain an assumption even if we find it. It will take way more than just finding it to conclusively prove the man-ape relationship, if there is any. Right now it is just a probability, which genetic sciences confirm that may have happened.

Now lets come to belief part. Our belief is that all humans descended from Adam. But if we look at humans today, there are several species of humans co-existing today. That confirms that both genotype and phenotype mutation among humans has occurred, which has separated us from each other e.g. African blacks, African Browns, European Whites, Caucasians, Slovaks, Chinese, South Asians (us), Vietnamese, Australian aboriginals, American aboriginals and so on and so forth. This mutation may still be happening e.g. Chinese are getting taller and stronger, from their older generation just decades ago. So if you don't believe in genetics then what is your belief, did each human specie had their own Adam? or if there was one Adam, was he black, white, or Brown or Chinese.

What you are repeatedly referring to is called ADAPTATION. Why do you think the people living in very cold regions have light coloured skin and people from hot regions are dark? Why do people living in areas with bright sunshine all year round have longer eye lashes as compared with people from mostly overcast and cloudy regions of the world? Why does giraffe has a longer neck? How can a camel go without water for days in desert? This is all adaptation not mutation or evolution and genetic science has NOT confirmed evolution otherwise it would have been taught as a fact not theory don't you think?

 

[Allah_Ka_Banda]

JazakAllah

 

[monh zorr]

You have no idea what you are talking about, evolution has been proven wrong in every aspect, the only thing idiots like you have to hold on to now is mutation.

You imbecille Mutation does not mean the species change. Mutation (in evoltuion sense) mean DNA adapting to the damage to the nucleid bond. It could be positive insense that the body adapts to a disease. or mostly negative where it cause damage to the gene.

Stop reading one liners and think you know what evolution is.

Don't resond untill you have throughly studied mutations.

take it easy and be polite, it is your duty to teach facts , if you have that