Re: Hudhuda insaan ys parinda?
Dear Mughal1,
So if taken your own logic and one should read the concerned verses
with context and text, then Hud HUd was a bird. BTW in these verses,
it is clearly mentioned that Birds were lined up or counted and Hud Hud
was absent. Similarly, when it is was matter to bring the throne of
Queen Sheeba, it was from Jin, these are very clear conveyings!!!!
Which one is the translation of Quran, its author's name which U will
prefer to discuss. Mr. GA Pervez may be a learned man, but what he
translated or written or said is open to question and it is valid for
all.
Dear babadeena, please look into dictionary for meaning of word bird. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. In urdu it is the same thing ie prinda does not only mean bird with feathers. Likewise in Arabic word bird does not mean just a bird with feathers. It also means soaring bird ie a free spirited person who likes flying high or a lively, strong and well trained person for a particular task.
As for translations of the quran, mr parwez's interpretation is better than any but still lacks here and there.
The current translation are wrong because no one has bothered to emphasis the points I am raising they just followed tradition.
Translations are not wrong in essence but in emphasis. Just as they translated taair into bird rather than cavalry. Word TAAIR=bird of feather, steed, horse that is trained and used for a particular purpose, omen etc for example. Likewise word jinn=jinn is not a wrong translation but people who have wrong ideas about word jinn will continue hoplding on to it unless the spect that more sensible is given to this word jinn= demon, nomad, rarely seen, stranger, powerful person, expert, controlling freak, giant etc. When a word has so many meanings why should one use a meaning that keeps confusion going?
Mr parwez does not have beard because it is not sunnah or necessary. Arab shaikhs many still not have beards. Iqbal did not think beard was deeni obligation and jinnah for the same reason.
Moreover, I am challenging these mullas right here to prove me wrong about it. Just talking and talking more is not the answer. It is better to learn what you do not know than start talking nonsense.
I do not follow anyone but the quran and the authentic ahadith and support anyone on any opinion anyone has that I think is appropriate.
It is mulla slaves who cannot imagine life beyond mullas that are showing their flying colours.
I am not asking anyone to accept my opinion blindly, who am I to do that? I am sharing my view on issues and people are free to share theirs. However the problem with mulla slaves is that they cannot accept that anyone should express their opinion at all, particularly if it exposes them and their mullas.
They are not here to exchange views but to fight to impose their views. Regardless it is not their muhalla masjid where they beat each other up but an open forum for sensible people who wish to learn from each other.
Anyway thanks for your participation and all the best.