gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Intelligence assets: After Davis arrest, US operatives leaving Pakistan

Fawad Digital Outreach Team US State Department



يہ بات ناقابل يقين ہے کہ پاکستانی بلاگز اور فورمز پر بعض راۓ دہندگان يہ مضحکہ خيز تھیوری پيش کر رہے ہيں کہ ايک امريکی سفارت کار اپنی حکومت کے ايما پر طالبان کی ايٹمی ہتھياروں تک رسائ کو يقينی بنانے کے عمل ميں ملوث ہو سکتا ہے۔ ميں نے کچھ ٹی وی ٹاک شوز بھی ديکھے ہیں جو اس بے بنياد کہانی کی تشہير کر رہے ہيں جس کی بنیاد ای يو ٹائمز نامی ويب سائٹ پر شائع ہونے والی ايک رپورٹ ہے۔


کوئ بھی شخص جو خبر کو رپورٹ کرنے کے حوالے سے اس ويب سائٹ کے پس منظر، صحافتی ساکھ اور تشخص کے حوالے سے معلومات رکھتا ہے، وہ اس بات کی گواہی دے گا کہ اس ويب سائٹ پر پيش کيا جانے والا کچھ مواد سنی سنائ باتوں، افواہوں اور ناقابل يقين منظرنامے پر مبنی تخلياتی کہانيوں کی بنياد پر ہوتا ہے۔


يہاں ميں کچھ حاليہ مثاليں پيش کر رہا ہوں جہاں اس ويب سائٹ نے فلمی طرز پر بغير کسی ثبوت اور مواد کے ايسے حالات کی منظر کشی کی جو بالآخر غلط ثابت ہوۓ۔


نومبر 28 2009 کو اس ويب سائٹ پر يہ دعوی کيا گيا کہ امريکی صدر اوبامہ نے ايک فوری حکم جاری کيا جس کے تحت جنوری 30 2010 تک امريکی افواج کی تعداد ميں ايک ملين کا اضافہ کر ديا جاۓ گا جس کی وجہ يہ بيان کی گئ کہ موسم سرما کے آخر تک امريکہ ميں خانہ جنگی کا آغاز ناگزير ہو جاۓ گا۔ ايسا کوئ واقعہ رونما نہيں ہوا۔




مئ 24 2010 کو اسی ويب سائٹ نے بی پی آئل کمپنی کے تيل کے کنويں سے متعلق حادثے کے حوالے سے عوامی جذبات کو استعمال کرتے ہوۓ يہ دعوی کيا کہ تيل کے بہاؤ کا يہ حادثہ انسانی تاريخ کا سب سے بڑا حادثہ بننے والا ہے جس کے نتيجے ميں آدھے سے زيادہ براعظم امريکہ مکمل تبائ کا شکار ہو جاۓ گا۔ ہم جانتے ہیں کہ يہ دعوی بھی محض سائنس فکشن ہی ثابت ہوا۔




اپريل 6 2010 کو اپنے مخصوص طرز رپورٹنگ کے عين مطابق اس ويب سائٹ پر دعوی کيا گيا کہ امريکی حکومت اپنی 11 مغربی رياستوں ميں 300 سے زائد "ڈيتھ کيمپ" تعمير کروا رہی ہے۔ اسی رپورٹ ميں يہ بھی کہا گيا کا صدر اوبامہ کی وزارت داخلہ 13 ملين ايکٹر زمين اپنے ہی لوگوں سے چھيننے کا منصوبہ بنا رہی ہے۔ يہ بھی بالکل غلط ثابت ہوا۔





جون 3 2010 کو ويب سائٹ پر يہ دعوی کيا گيا کہ صدر اوبامہ سال 2012 سے قبل ہی اپنی صدرات سے مستعفی ہو جائيں گے۔ اس میں بھی کوئ صداقت نہيں ہے۔




يہ کچھ ايسی مثاليں ہیں جن سے آپ کو اس ويب سائٹ پر کی جانے والی رپورٹنگ کی نوعيت کا اندازہ ہو جاۓ گا۔ ايک ايسی ويب سائٹ جو بظاہر يورپ کی خبروں کے حوالے سے اپنی شناخت ظاہر کرتی ہے، حيرت انگيز بات يہ ہے کہ اس پر شا‏ئع ہونے والی اکثر خبروں کا يورپ سے کوئ تعلق نہيں ہے بلکہ امريکہ سے متعلق واقعات پر زيادہ فوکس کيا جاتا ہے۔ اگر اس ويب سائٹ کے عنوان سے ہٹ کر اس کی تفصيل والے سيکشن کا جائزہ ليں تو يہ حقيقت آشکار ہوتی ہے کہ يہاں بھی کوئ خاطر خواہ معلومات موجود نہیں ہيں۔ نہ ہی عملے کے ناموں کا کوئ ذکر ہے، نہ ہی کوئ ايڈريس اور نہ ہی ويب سائٹ کی کوئ تاريخ۔ ويب سائٹ کے اپنے دعوے کے مطابق يہ ايک عالمی اخبار ہے جو يورپ ميں موجود ہے ليکن اس کی فعال شاخيں امريکہ اور کينيڈا ميں ہيں۔ دلچسپ بات يہ ہے کہ اس ويب سائٹ کا ڈومين بھی يورپ ميں رجسٹرڈ نہیں ہے۔


اس ساری معلومات اور پس منظر کو مد نظر رکھتے ہوۓ کيا کوئ بھی محترم صحافی يا ميڈيا سے متعلق کوئ شخص کسی تعميری بحث ميں اس ويب سائٹ کی کسی رپورٹ کا ريفرنس يا حوالہ پيش کرنے کا جواز رکھتا ہے؟



فواد ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ







Freedom of expression is the corner stone of your constitution. You have sowed the seed and now you are harvesting the fruit, you should be happy/

There 100's of media outlet in your cpountry that does nothing but propaganda, takes a drop from Muslim country and makes it into an ocean.

Egypt Tunisia and Libya, I have no doubt that these are the hard work of your underground powerful CIA and your Jewish friend Israel
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
US State Department=Ugly Satan State Department

Nobody could be as shameless a liar as the disciples and progeny of Satan. US State Department fulfills this criteria by being a shameless liar. It should be renamed as
US State Department = Ugly Satan State Department
Please give your opinion.
 
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Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Desparate efforts to save Davis

I think CIA and ISI have reached an agreement
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simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Davis case: Court to make media reports part of hearing

http://tribune.com.pk/story/126281/davis-case-court-to-make-media-reports-part-of-hearing/

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LHC tells petitioner US govt cannot be made a part of the hearing.
LAHORE: The Lahore High Court on Wednesday passed orders to make American media reports about Raymond Davis, an American facing double murder charges, a part of the courts record in the case.
Lahore High Court (LHC) Chief Justice Ijaz Ahmed Chaudhry gave the order while hearing a petition that requested the court to make the US government a party to the Raymond Davis case.
The chief justice ruled out the possibility of making the US government a party to the case unless the Pakistan government adopted a clear stance on the case.
However, the court ordered that all reports appearing in the US media about Davis should be included in case records.
In the last hearing, Davis insisted he had diplomatic immunity and refused to receive a copy of the charge-sheet submitted in the court against him.
On March 14, the Lahore High Court will decide on the issue of Davis immunity.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Forget Aafia, well keep Davis !!!

Forget Aafia, well keep Davis

Kiran Nazish March 2, 2011

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Raymond Davis has been accused of two counts of murder

On Monday, Waseem, the brother of one of the men Raymond Davis has been accused of murdering, announced that he was open to an exchange involving Dr Aafia Siddiqui and Davis. Later, Aafias sister Dr Fauzia and mother seconded the idea.
They are notalone. Calls to exchange Aafia for Davis emerged soon after the American was arrested. To me, these do not make much sense as both cases are completely different cases.
Aafia was tried and sentenced to 86 years in a US prison on seven charges. Davis, on the other hand, has been accused of shooting two Pakistani citizens and his case is one of crime, possession of illegal weapons and murder.
He was arrested for murder not an attempted of murder. More importantly, he is a CIA agent.
Why is America so desperate?
The US desperate attempts to secure Davis release spell out one fact: he is important. His arrest has already led to steps that have exposed Americas clandestine affairs in the region. If an exchange was to take place, we could potentially lose out on information that Davis may have.
The US is obviously uneasy about this. It has warned that funds will stop coming and the release based on the Vienna Convention. When nothing seemed to work, some leaders threatened to approach the same International Court of Justice (a court the US has been known to show little regard for in the past.)
Raymond Davis case is a gold mine of secrets

As new information is being revealed about this case, our own intelligence agencies are becoming vigilant. Records ofother US officials are being scrutinized and information about US operatives working under Joint Special Operations Command programs in Pakistan is surfacing.
This information is reason enough to investigate this case further, instead of coming up with alternatives like an exchange.
We need to follow the trail which uncovers Davis possible involvement with Taliban militants and explains why he could have been photographing sensitive areas and defense installations, including army bunkers on the eastern border with India.

Here is a list of items that was allegedly found in Davis possession:
  • 100 M7 bullets
  • camera
  • knives
  • medical equipment
  • a pistol with four magazines
  • wire-cutters
  • telescopes
The question we should ask America is this: would they investigate a Pakistani diplomat who was carrying these items?
If this situation is handled wisely, it could change the fate of Pakistan. An exchange will be a cheap barter and one which will greatly disadvantageous.
The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

by Kiran Nazish





(http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/4657/forget-aafia-well-keep-davis/)
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Intelligence assets: After Davis arrest, US operatives leaving Pakistan

Fawad – Digital Outreach Team – US State Department



يہ بات ناقابل يقين ہے کہ پاکستانی بلاگز اور فورمز پر بعض راۓ دہندگان يہ مضحکہ خيز تھیوری پيش کر رہے ہيں کہ ايک امريکی سفارت کار اپنی حکومت کے ايما پر طالبان کی ايٹمی ہتھياروں تک رسائ کو يقينی بنانے کے عمل ميں ملوث ہو سکتا ہے۔ ميں نے کچھ ٹی وی ٹاک شوز بھی ديکھے ہیں جو اس بے بنياد کہانی کی تشہير کر رہے ہيں جس کی بنیاد ای يو ٹائمز نامی ويب سائٹ پر شائع ہونے والی ايک رپورٹ ہے۔

Fawad Mian,
Have you forgotten 'Gulf of Tonkin" incident. Need I remind you that?
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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'The Duel: Pakistan On The Flight Path Of American Power'


 
Re: Lahore shooting: US demands immediate release of Raymond Davis

It is not Pakistan that is dependent on the money, its the corrupt politicians and others who have more value for the dollar than a pakistani life.....
why sold out character, i know they are corrupt, baba but what this american has done to save his life, i would have done the same, Pakistan is jungle baba jungle and don't compare urself with U.S.A, unfortunately might is right, baaten bari bari karna bohot achcha lagta he but bottom line is that we r dependant on their money, u know bhikaari
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
LHC adjourns Davis hearing till March 8

By Agencies
Published: March 3, 2011

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The US consulate has nominated Syed Zahid Hussain Bukhari, who is former government prosecutor, as lawyer for Raymond Davis. PHOTO: FILE

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court (LHC) on Thursday said that the murder trial of Raymond Davis would go ahead, rejecting his plea that he could not be prosecuted because of diplomatic immunity. The hearing was adjourned till March 8.
The US consulate has nominated Syed Zahid Hussain Bukhari, who is former government prosecutor, as lawyer for Raymond Davis.
“The US consulate has contacted me and I will represent Raymond Davis,” Bokhari told Reuters before the hearing.
“The court passed an order today saying that he (Davis) had failed to produce any legitimate document proving his diplomatic immunity,” the lawyer representing the two men shot by him, Asad Manzoor Butt, told AFP after a closed-door hearing.
Security was tight at Kot Lakhpat jail, where the trial was held for security reasons. Machine guns were installed on top of water towers inside the jail and concrete barriers were placed on the road leading to it.
Davis, a former US special forces officer, has been charged with double-murder and faces possible execution.
On Wednesday, the Lahore High Court directed authorities to include news reports and articles on Raymond Davis in their records.
LHC Chief Justice Ijaz Ahmad Chaudhry gave the order while hearing a petition requesting the court to make the US government party to the Raymond Davis case.
The chief justice ruled out that possibility, saying the Pakistan government must first adopt a clear stand on the case.
On March 14, the Lahore High Court will decide whether Davis enjoys diplomatic immunity, another contentious issue that the government has said must be decided legally, at the risk of angering the United States and jeopardising up to $3 billion a year in US military and civilian aid.
In addition to causing a diplomatic standoff, the case has strained relations between the CIA and Pakistan’s main Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency, which says it did not know of Davis’ presence in the country.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/126824/lhc-adjourns-davis-hearing-till-march-8/
 

saliaz

MPA (400+ posts)
I believe Bhatti's murder is to divert concentration from Davies case.
Do not loose your concentration from Davies case!

 

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