islamabadi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

After today's Kamran Khan show it is clear US wanted to remove Musharraf and bring in PPP and also threatened Musharraf that if PML(Q) wins US wont accept the results.

Now Paksitani govt without a nod from ISI allowed americans to come inside pakistan which Musharraf was resisting through out and it annoyed the US.

It explains why sudden after musharraf suicide bombings increased; drone strike increased. When he was in power the numbers were very low and controlled such that the elections were held without a single incident.

Long Live Quaid-e-Pakistan and we pray that he leads us again with the same wisdom.

USA didnt remove Musharraf he was VOTED out of office. We have elections in our country in case you missed it...
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Pervez is disliked:S

who said that.. which sect of islam i shud say.. might be abdullallone sect says pervez is disliked in islam...

i dnt wanna respond.. u dnt have mental capacity to analyze any thing judging by yr name comment so why waste energy on a fool. u be happy with wht ever u believe...
Firstly name "Pervaiz" is disliked name in Islam.
Secondly, its Musharaf who bowed down to Bush asking him to take Musharaff as they like even if it was taking off his trousers.
Musharaf allowed space and base for drone attacks from pak soil.
Musharaf allowed US criminal and terrorists on pakistani soil.
Musharaf is war criminal and must be stonned to death
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

no they didnt... MQM, PML(Q) are musharraf votes .... MMA was in govt that time... pml(Q) got more votes than PML(N); MQM can dislodge teh govt when ever it wants....... so talk sense ...
Short memory? People of Pakistan kicked Musharaf out. Did you forget the long march already? Lawyers movement?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

You are accepting that Musharraf granted limited liberty to CIA to operate in Pakistan, is this patriotism?
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Yes; ISI and CIA were working together to finish alqaeda.
ISI and army are true symbol of national security and patriotism; i trust ISi more than the politicians when it comes to national security. So I am with their decision if a joint operation with CIA is done with ISI's consent.

When this stupid peoples representatives came they tried to bypas ISi and issued Visas withotu ISi clearance.

Socho samjho and analyse karo.
You are accepting that Musharraf granted limited liberty to CIA to operate in Pakistan, is this patriotism?
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Musharraf visa has expired
He will never come to Pakistan.
 

shaheedchoudry

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Pervez is disliked:S

who said that.. which sect of islam i shud say.. might be abdullallone sect says pervez is disliked in islam...

i dnt wanna respond.. u dnt have mental capacity to analyze any thing judging by yr name comment so why waste energy on a fool. u be happy with wht ever u believe...
Sir, abdullahlone is talking about Islam. You are Musharraf supporter. Aap ka Islam sey kia taulaq?
 

Adeel

Founder
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

yes, they will kick him again and he will lead Pakistan inshAllah, as they realizing that they have been fooled by Nawaz Zardari nuura kushti and they are paying for this game heavily, sugar price,petrol prices, daaal, gosht, bechara ghareeb to ban gia bewaquuf aik martaba phir, upar military man ho ya so called democratic fake degree holders hon, in ko farq parta he agar to wo he, what they can afford, atleast khana to mile bhai, Musharraf's era was 1000% better , inshAllah he will lead soon, you will see

The current Government is so bad that they make incompetent Musharaf look like a Hero.
 

aneeskhan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Mush made pakistan 11th most developing nation ,zardari/nawaz adlia made pakistan below111,thousand students were given scholarships to do doctrate in best versities,qualified pakistani,s were asked to come & do research in pak universities,were paid in dollars,those who want to revenge can still go to afghanistan, get jacket of ittefaq foundry from rana sana ,no body will stop ,if come back as ghazi,can become qadri here after repeating same kind of act,in court they will get reception with flowers,chief will put hand on their shoulders n head what a life time achievement ,if martyrs hoorain great golden oppurtunity
 

yasir1981

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Short memory? People of Pakistan kicked Musharaf out. Did you forget the long march already? Lawyers movement?

hahaha Lawyer movement what a joke.....People of pak now know that all these were done to please Sharif brothers to have judges of their own choice and Iftikhar ch to save his seat only......Nawaz sharif ist tell why assaulted on Supreme court and removed CJ through other judges when he was in power.....CJ has not yet cleared his reference and has hidden them like he has hidden corrupt cases of Nawaz sharif under his belt..........
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Long Live Quaid-e-Pakistan and we pray that he leads us again with the same wisdom.


Bhai Visa, let him rest there in london. He is retired now . He has done enough . Please do not disturb your Bazurgs.

Why you r disturbing him like a Zidi Child , " come and lead us , come and help us ".

Now it is your time to come forward and lead the nation. with new spirt ...and throw the Americans out as your Qaid did.

As far most of the Pakistanies think that blood is gushing out from every cut , he practiced.

Mush was American asset and Zardari is his successor. You could not change this fact, with the name of Kamran Khan.
 
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adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

mujey kafir kehney waley.. iski saza aapko marney ke baad hi mileygi... ya may be pehle... magar mileygi zaroor
Sir, abdullahlone is talking about Islam. You are Musharraf supporter. Aap ka Islam sey kia taulaq?
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

After today's Kamran Khan show it is clear US wanted to remove Musharraf and bring in PPP and also threatened Musharraf that if PML(Q) wins US wont accept the results.

Now Paksitani govt without a nod from ISI allowed americans to come inside pakistan which Musharraf was resisting through out and it annoyed the US.

It explains why sudden after musharraf suicide bombings increased; drone strike increased. When he was in power the numbers were very low and controlled such that the elections were held without a single incident.

Long Live Quaid-e-Pakistan and we pray that he leads us again with the same wisdom.

Musharraf served as a base for CIA infiltration and drone strikes it was musharraf who allowed CIA to come to pak and take houses and do their dirty job and it was also musharraf who allowed drone strikes. And also dont forget about the secret commitment between musharaf and US govt about these CIA agents exemption from various laws of Pakistan (I heard it during one of the talk shows capital talk or kal tak i dont remember) . Thanks in advance
 
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Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

The current Government is so bad that they make incompetent Musharaf look like a Hero.

The people on the negative side could never cross the boundaries of their crimes and could never enter in positive region ....

Yeh Qanoon e Qudrat he.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Yes; ISI and CIA were working together to finish alqaeda.
ISI and army are true symbol of national security and patriotism; i trust ISi more than the politicians when it comes to national security. So I am with their decision if a joint operation with CIA is done with ISI's consent.
When this stupid peoples representatives came they tried to bypas ISi and issued Visas withotu ISi clearance.
Socho samjho and analyse karo.

In your opinion Alqeda is not CIA's B team.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

"after musharraf suicide bombings increased; drone strike increased"
It doesnt prove Musharraf was a patriot who refused to do anything against Pakistan's interest, it just shows that he was a "chota beghairat" compared to Zardari. Besides, the public wanted to see a change of faces and Americans gave them that. Its just like a beta version and a release version of a software, the beta version does the same thing but with some reduced functionality and bugs.

Stop trying to prove Musharraf was a true patriot who never did anything against Pakistan's interest, he gave bases to America and he sold Pakistani nationals to America etc etc.

Well I would argue here about the "Change Of Faces". There isn't any changes in faces same people same corruption etc... Our nation is so innocent or rather i would say so stupid that they tried everyone in our politics two or three times and again they elected them and now they r suffering from it. A wise person would fall once or even twice and take lesson from it but a stupid person would commit that mistake again and again u know why? becoz he is stupid. Peace....
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Yes; ISI and CIA were working together to finish alqaeda.
ISI and army are true symbol of national security and patriotism; i trust ISi more than the politicians when it comes to national security. So I am with their decision if a joint operation with CIA is done with ISI's consent.

When this stupid peoples representatives came they tried to bypas ISi and issued Visas withotu ISi clearance.

Socho samjho and analyse karo.

CIA is not doing joint operation with ISI against al-qaeda. Al qaeda is a myth and only alive in news as it is the basic reason for US to attack or threaten other nations. Read what western and american newspapers say about raymond davis and what he was doing. Read in wikipedia about operation northwood and u would come to know about the reality of CIA and americans. ISI has admitted they were not aware of raymod davis before that incident and they even dont know how many of these agents like raymond davis are working secretly in Pakistan and their purpose. And everyone knows about benazir's visits to America before coming from exile to Pakistan and taking part in elections and u could assume these visa policy could be one of the main reason for her to come from exile. She is dead now and Allah (SWT) knows best what will be going on with her in the grave.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Yes they were; CIA used them for afghan jihad; they were CIAs team... every mercenary after the job well done will be settled or finished...US didnt do that after the soviet breakup... and now these jihadis are scattered killing who ever they want to... again the situation is two fold... either use them for anotehr goal or finish them.. in either case teh mercenaries dnt knw who are using them.... so stop dreaming about conspiracy theories and work on things we practically can influence....
In your opinion Alqeda is not CIA's B team.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

u guys jsut read all the conspiracy theorists... i dont knw whts behind alqaeda.. n i dnt care.. i care abt pakistans economy and prosperity.. ISI and army is there to kill all external threats.... and musharraf is the hero who saved pakistan from all that... i trust ISI and army more than the politicians... so let them deal with CIA and we work for our economy... for which i think musharraf was the best man...
CIA is not doing joint operation with ISI against al-qaeda. Al qaeda is a myth and only alive in news as it is the basic reason for US to attack or threaten other nations. Read what western and american newspapers say about raymond davis and what he was doing. Read in wikipedia about operation northwood and u would come to know about the reality of CIA and americans. ISI has admitted they were not aware of raymod davis before that incident and they even dont know how many of these agents like raymond davis are working secretly in Pakistan and their purpose. And everyone knows about benazir's visits to America before coming from exile to Pakistan and taking part in elections and u could assume these visa policy could be one of the main reason for her to come from exile. She is dead now and Allah (SWT) knows best what will be going on with her in the grave.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Now it is clear US removed Musharraf as he was not allowing CIA operatives with free hand within Pakistan

Yes they were; CIA used them for afghan jihad; they were CIAs team... every mercenary after the job well done will be settled or finished...US didnt do that after the soviet breakup... and now these jihadis are scattered killing who ever they want to... again the situation is two fold... either use them for anotehr goal or finish them.. in either case teh mercenaries dnt knw who are using them.... so stop dreaming about conspiracy theories and work on things we practically can influence....

My question is for present. America is using them or not.
 

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