Raymond Davis didn't act in self-defence: Police

GEO Pakistan Davis not acted in self-defence: police

Updated at: 1150 PST, Friday, February 11, 2011
LAHORE: The police investigations into the Lahore incident have been completed and it has now been confirmed that Raymond Davis did not acted in self-defence, Geo News reported.

CCPO Lahore Aslam Tarin told media that Davis shot at the fleeing boy and the motorcyclists did not point guns at him adding that the gun recovered from the deceased was not loaded.

He rejected the self-defence claim made by Davis who shot dead two men last month, saying it was a clear case of murder.

"The police investigation and forensic report show it was not self-defence," he told a news conference.

"His plea has been rejected by police investigators," he said. "He gave no chance to them to survive. That is why we consider it was not self-defence. We have proof it was not self-defence. It was clear murder."
 
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/11/no-threats-given-to-haqqani-us-embassy.html

Bu the police hv also said the two men were robbers and 4 mobile phones 2 snatched were recovered.. this bayaan is to quench the thirst of jazbati patoras.. mark my words.. davis will be freed to go to US by our courts... PERIOD

catch the driver who killed an innocent man.. he is teh real criminal... no one is asking for him.. jazbati idiots







GEO Pakistan Davis not acted in self-defence: police

Updated at: 1150 PST, Friday, February 11, 2011
LAHORE: The police investigations into the Lahore incident have been completed and it has now been confirmed that Raymond Davis did not acted in self-defence, Geo News reported.

CCPO Lahore Aslam Tarin told media that Davis shot at the fleeing boy and the motorcyclists did not point guns at him adding that the gun recovered from the deceased was not loaded.

He rejected the self-defence claim made by Davis who shot dead two men last month, saying it was a clear case of murder.

"The police investigation and forensic report show it was not self-defence," he told a news conference.

"His plea has been rejected by police investigators," he said. "He gave no chance to them to survive. That is why we consider it was not self-defence. We have proof it was not self-defence. It was clear murder."
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

No threats given to Haqqani: US embassy

No threats given to Haqqani: US embassy
DAWN.COM
(2 hours ago) Today

Ayaz Fakhri
haqqani-543.jpg


Pakistani Ambassador to US Hussain Haqqani – File Photo

ISLAMABAD: The US embassy in Pakistan, in response to the US media’s take on the Raymond Davis case, said that the media reports were fabricated and that the US and Pakistan maintain a relationship of trust which could not be threatened.

On Friday, the embassy confirmed that Pakistani Ambassador to the US, Husain Haqqani did meet National Security Advisor Tom Donilon to discuss the release of Davis, however, no threats were given to the envoy.

Speaking exclusively to DawnNews, Acting US spokesperson Courtney Beale confirmed that the Pakistani envoy was not being removed from Washington and neither were the strategic dialogue or trilateral talks going to be affected by this case.

“The ABC report is not true. The description of the conversations in the report are simply inaccurate,” Beale said.

Beale also said that there was no change of plan in President Asif Ali Zardari’s trip to the US, and nor was President Obama planning to cancel his trip to Pakistan. The spokesperson said that the US embassy and consulates will continue work as per usual in Pakistan.

Beale said that Davis had acted out in self-defense and because he has diplomatic immunity, Pakistan’s attitude towards the case was not valid. The spokesperson said that the Davis case can be resolved by mutual cooperation between Pakistan and the US.

“The US and Pakistan remain partners and we look forward to resolving the Raymond Davis case in accordance with international and Pakistani law and in the spirit of our countries’ friendship.”
http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/11/no-threats-given-to-haqqani-us-embassy.html
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

According to the reporte published in ABC News, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon told Ambassador Husain Haqqani that the U.S. will [HI]kick him out [/HI]of the U.S., [HI]close U.S. consulates[/HI] in Pakistan, and cancel an [HI]upcoming visit[/HI] by Pakistani President to Washington, if Davis is not released from custody by Friday.

Kick this busterd out,close consulates ,Karachi, lahore ,quetta and peshawar,i think than there is nomore Khudkushh hamlay anymore in these teritories.
Lastly about zardari,Who care about zard ari,he is a sick person and a burden on the country.
 
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adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

I always mantained what davis is doing here is a secondary question; that army, isi and govt will answer whether he is here with thier permission or not. We cannot do any thing about it. and they are numb in answering it. If he is here with armys permission then its fine; army knows better than govt or us.

And catch the driver ; i am also on teh same page. He must be caught as he is the main criminal. And stop Musharraf phobia. 3 years into the current govt and they have issued visas to davis. So stop being a jazbati patora
This is not jazbat. Let us see your way of being cool. Let me clear this. EVEN IF, IF, IF & ONLY IF, they both were robbers and blah blah.What the hell this Davis doing there? Allah unveiled this US spy infront of the whole nation, when we said that Musharraf is allowing black water and spies to enter Pakistan the so-called "Liberals" named us "idiot mullahs", but now Allah has revealed the matter which they concealed. Who is responsible for the third and fourth person? Do they give us a shi* by not handing us the reckless driver?
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

This is where Geo ignites and fuels jazbati patoras; here is dawn
http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/11/police-reject-davis-self-defence-plea-say-clear-murder.html

A police official previously told AFP that two pistols, magazine belts and four mobile phones, at least two of which they believe could have been stolen, were found on the bodies of the two dead Pakistanis.
The officer described one of them as a street robber “wanted” in connection with three or four incidents and the other as his accomplice.


GEO Pakistan Davis not acted in self-defence: police

Updated at: 1150 PST, Friday, February 11, 2011
LAHORE: The police investigations into the Lahore incident have been completed and it has now been confirmed that Raymond Davis did not acted in self-defence, Geo News reported.

CCPO Lahore Aslam Tarin told media that Davis shot at the fleeing boy and the motorcyclists did not point guns at him adding that the gun recovered from the deceased was not loaded.

He rejected the self-defence claim made by Davis who shot dead two men last month, saying it was a clear case of murder.

"The police investigation and forensic report show it was not self-defence," he told a news conference.

"His plea has been rejected by police investigators," he said. "He gave no chance to them to survive. That is why we consider it was not self-defence. We have proof it was not self-defence. It was clear murder."
 
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

This is where Geo ignites and fuels jazbati patoras; here is dawn
http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/11/police-reject-davis-self-defence-plea-say-clear-murder.html

A police official previously told AFP that two pistols, magazine belts and four mobile phones, at least two of which they believe could have been stolen, were found on the bodies of the two dead Pakistanis.
The officer described one of them as a street robber “wanted” in connection with three or four incidents and the other as his accomplice.

A police official isn't the final word. The final word comes from the head of the investigation team who is CCPO Lahore Aslam Tarin!

Now go and lick your wounds!
 
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

One news source reports a story and another official denies it...so what is the purpose of your story when all you are going to post initially you will deny later....
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

http://www.dawn.com/2011/02/11/no-threats-given-to-haqqani-us-embassy.html

Bu the police hv also said the two men were robbers and 4 mobile phones 2 snatched were recovered.. this bayaan is to quench the thirst of jazbati patoras.. mark my words.. davis will be freed to go to US by our courts... PERIOD

catch the driver who killed an innocent man.. he is teh real criminal... no one is asking for him.. jazbati idiots

Can I have the link for the police statement please??
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

According to the reporte published in ABC News, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon told Ambassador Husain Haqqani that the U.S. will [HI]kick him out [/HI]of the U.S., [HI]close U.S. consulates[/HI] in Pakistan, and cancel an [HI]upcoming visit[/HI] by Pakistani President to Washington, if Davis is not released from custody by Friday.

Kick this busterd out,close consulates ,Karachi, lahore ,quetta and peshawar,i think than there is nomore Khudkushh hamlay anymore in these teritories.
Lastly about zardari,Who care about zard ari,he is a sick person and a burden on the country.

كاش ایسا ہو جائے۔۔۔۔

We will get rid of this painful relationship for ever Inshallah....
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

Final verdict will be from court.... and why the investigative officer didnt say any thing about teh two killed??? who were they??? reminder: stop being a jazbati patora; think factually not emotionally
A police official isn't the final word. The final word comes from the head of the investigation team who is CCPO Lahore Aslam Tarin!

Now go and lick your wounds!
 

CoolDool

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

these are the tactics to pressurize Pakistan, and i bet all of our rolling political leadership must have been shocked upon these news.
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

munafiqeens lie ,lie than lie some more...infact its one of their major characteristic.lying shamelessly.
and we know that

pakistani civil and army leadership and media is totally ruled by munafiqeen who are kufar,s slaves.

few days ago an american ambassador reymond davis was caught when he killed three pakistani youths in busy lahore street...somehow this matter got out of hand and now pakistani munafiqeens government is afraid to release this american as it fears public backlash...
few days ago matters got worse when a widow of one of the slain youths committed suicide after pakistani agencie,s men pressured her family to take back the case against this american killer and get monetary compensation instead..when the family refused this offer they were threatened and in great tension the widow of slain youth committed suicide..so public got even more angry after that .

than munafiqeen,s army and agencies and rulers devised a plan like they have done in past...to divert this public hatred against reymond davis against islamic mujahideen somehow ,and give america and munafiqeen some respite and relief.

so i was shocked today after reading and listening in news that pakistani government and agencies now claim that reymond has links with taliban!!!!this is such a big lie that sky will fall (may allah make it fall on munafiqeen amen).
see how easily they will now divert publics anger towards mujahideen of islam...aik teer main do shikaar!killing two birds with one stone!

how funny is that!pakistani army and agencies are like pet poodles working for zionists intrests in this region and still they have gall to label taliban as american and indian agents!its really funny...and by such shameless lies they are doing damage to themselves as they are bringing their horrible end near.

everyone knows that its only taliban who are fighting against zionists in present era,rest of muslims are either with kufar or are silent,both of these things are not enough!( that one gets classified among muslims anyway!)
also
everyone knows that when blackwater commandos came in pakistan its their army and agencies who helped them get training ,arms and residences..
but as media is with munafiqeen so its easy to brain wash people with lies ,lies and some more lies...
as for people ,majority of them have no religious know how and are just like cattle,with no higher purpose of life nor any vision.so they are like cattle herd guided to slaughter house by their masters.

anyway!what a joke this is!to label mujahideen as american agents while army itself is working as b team of americans and killing their own people in dozens daily to please them!

i remember a big bearded munafiq graveworshipper once telling me with quiet assured voice that "you know.taliban work for america and india! " when i asked him which mental institute he ran from than he replied that he heard this news on tv channel!i asked him that does the same tv channel not joke about islamic laws ?does the same tv channel not label islamic sharia as barbaric,,and you munafiq still believe the words of these kufar,s slave munafiqeen!

such people are worse than animals.who believe in kufars and munafiqeens media..
 

waleedhussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

munafiqeens lie ,lie than lie some more...infact its one of their major characteristic.lying shamelessly.
and we know that

pakistani civil and army leadership and media is totally ruled by munafiqeen who are kufar,s slaves.

few days ago an american ambassador reymond davis was caught when he killed three pakistani youths in busy lahore street...somehow this matter got out of hand and now pakistani munafiqeens government is afraid to release this american as it fears public backlash...
few days ago matters got worse when a widow of one of the slain youths committed suicide after pakistani agencie,s men pressured her family to take back the case against this american killer and get monetary compensation instead..when the family refused this offer they were threatened and in great tension the widow of slain youth committed suicide..so public got even more angry after that .

than munafiqeen,s army and agencies and rulers devised a plan like they have done in past...to divert this public hatred against reymond davis against islamic mujahideen somehow ,and give america and munafiqeen some respite and relief.

so i was shocked today after reading and listening in news that pakistani government and agencies now claim that reymond has links with taliban!!!!this is such a big lie that sky will fall (may allah make it fall on munafiqeen amen).
see how easily they will now divert publics anger towards mujahideen of islam...aik teer main do shikaar!killing two birds with one stone!

how funny is that!pakistani army and agencies are like pet poodles working for zionists intrests in this region and still they have gall to label taliban as american and indian agents!its really funny...and by such shameless lies they are doing damage to themselves as they are bringing their horrible end near.

everyone knows that its only taliban who are fighting against zionists in present era,rest of muslims are either with kufar or are silent,both of these things are not enough!( that one gets classified among muslims anyway!)
also
everyone knows that when blackwater commandos came in pakistan its their army and agencies who helped them get training ,arms and residences..
but as media is with munafiqeen so its easy to brain wash people with lies ,lies and some more lies...
as for people ,majority of them have no religious know how and are just like cattle,with no higher purpose of life nor any vision.so they are like cattle herd guided to slaughter house by their masters.

anyway!what a joke this is!to label mujahideen as american agents while army itself is working as b team of americans and killing their own people in dozens daily to please them!

i remember a big bearded munafiq graveworshipper once telling me with quiet assured voice that "you know.taliban work for america and india! " when i asked him which mental institute he ran from than he replied that he heard this news on tv channel!i asked him that does the same tv channel not joke about islamic laws ?does the same tv channel not label islamic sharia as barbaric,,and you munafiq still believe the words of these kufar,s slave munafiqeen!

such people are worse than animals.who believe in kufars and munafiqeens media..



Just one thing I may correct (according to what I believe), when it is said terrorists are agents of india and americans it is "in fact" "not necessarily" taliban. In Pakistan unfortunately anyone who has beard and prays is labelled as taliban. when ever any kind of explosion happens even if it is domestic gas cylinder, the breaking news would be "khudkush hamla" and second "taliban claimed the responsibility" ... this all is propaganda and lies . What is truth that true Mujahideen never hurt any innocent. They risk their lives not for worldly gains but for Allah. But at the same time hindus and zionists are working in the area as a "label" of taliban to malign the mujahideen and at the same time destroy Pakistan's nuclear assets ..thats called 2 birds with 1 stone . What general public dont realize these facts and just keep on believing what they are shown and that too by zionist media.

Mujahideen do not harm any being let alone humans, its the zionists and hindus who consider others worms and untouchables, but Alas our hukmuraan and "we" in general are America's B team really and consider them our ally.
 

waleedhussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Raymond Davis case: the Lal Masjid of present govt

this is indeed a very situation matter. It can prove as fatal as lal masjid for musharaf. totally agree with ansar abbasi sahab
 

mjzafar

MPA (400+ posts)
Raymond Davis Incident - Same Happened Once in 1964

I am pasting below an excerpt from the Imam Khomeini's Speech that he delivered after a similar incident (referring to Raymond Davis Incident) took place in Iran - 1964. After the speech, which incited a lot of people, he was sent in exile in November the same year. I am sure you will be able to relate it with what has happened in Lahore.....

Khomeini's Speech Excerpts The Granting of Capitaluatory Rights to the USA�� 27 October, 1964
.I cannot express the sorrow I feel in my heart Iran no longer has any festival to celebrate; they have turned our festival into mourningThey have sold us, they have sold our independence; but still they light up the city and dance The dignity of the Iranian Army has been trampled underfoot! A law has been put before the Majlis according to which we are to accede to the Vienna Convention, and a provision has been added to it that all American military advisers, together with their families, technical, and administrative officials, and servants � in short, anyone in any way connected to them " are to enjoy legal immunity with respect to any crime they may commit in Iran. If some American's servant, some American cook, assassinates your marja in the middle of the bazaar, or runs over him, the Iranian police do not have the right to apprehend him! Iranian courts do not have the right to judge him! The dossier must be sent to America, so that our master there can decide what is to be done They have reduced the Iranian people to a level lower than that of the American dog. If someone runs over a dog belonging to an American, he will be persecuted. But if an American cook runs over the Shah, the head of the state, no one will have the right to interfere with him. Why? Because they wanted a loan and Americans demanded this in return.


Source: Islam and Revolution: Writings and Declarations of Imam Khomeini, p 181-188.









 

m_umar

Citizen
Re: Raymond Davis Incident - Same Happened Once in 1964

only people with the foresight have the power, will and wisdom to say such things say such things,
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

They have sold us, they have sold our independence.
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan

Court will have to see, has he got immunity or not.
If he has got immunity then court can not do anything.
If he has no immunity then court will take action.
But my question is because he was spying, had some important documents and he was in a very important area so does our army not want to investigate him or not ?
 

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