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saeed khan
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Re: Davis case; US threatens to snap diplomatic ties with Pakistan
I fully agree with you.
If United Snakes wants to kick out Haqani and close US consulates then it means Allah taala has given us a golden chance to kick out US forces.
What we will get after Zar visit, just more burden? and Zar will get commission.
I fully agree with you.
If United Snakes wants to kick out Haqani and close US consulates then it means Allah taala has given us a golden chance to kick out US forces.
What we will get after Zar visit, just more burden? and Zar will get commission.
canadian
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US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
US threatens to expel Haqqani
* Tom Donilon made threat after summoning Pak envoy to White House
* NSA warned consulates in Pakistan may be closed and Zardaris visit to US could be cancelled
* Haqqani, US deny report
WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obamas national security adviser threatened to expel Pakistans ambassador unless arrested US citizen Raymond Davis was not released by Friday, a report said.
Citing two Pakistani officials, ABC News said National Security Adviser Tom Donilon made the threat after summoning Hussain Haqqani to the White House.
He reportedly warned that US consulates in Pakistan may be closed and President Asif Ali Zardaris upcoming visit to Washington could be cancelled if Davis, who is charged for killing two Pakistani citizens, was not freed.
ABC News said a senior US official confirmed the details, but Haqqani and the US embassy in Islamabad denied the report.
While the US side has let its position known to us, at no stage has any threat been made to me by any US official at any level and our dialogue continues, Haqqani said. The US and Pakistan remain partners and we look forward to resolving the Raymond Davis case in accordance with international and Pakistani law and in the spirit of our countries friendship, he added.
Courtney Beale, spokeswoman for the US embassy in Islamabad, in a statement said, Although we are unable to discuss the substance of a private diplomatic meeting, the Islamabad US Embassy can state categorically that the description of the conversation in this report is simply inaccurate.
Davis was arrested on January 27 and told police that he shot two men in self-defence, fearing they were about to rob him. The incident took place in broad daylight on a busy street and has sparked angry protests in Pakistan. A Pakistani court on Friday extended Davis remand by another 14 days as police rejected the self-defence claim that he had made. afp(http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\02\12\story_12-2-2011_pg7_2)
US threatens to expel Haqqani
* Tom Donilon made threat after summoning Pak envoy to White House
* NSA warned consulates in Pakistan may be closed and Zardaris visit to US could be cancelled
* Haqqani, US deny report
WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obamas national security adviser threatened to expel Pakistans ambassador unless arrested US citizen Raymond Davis was not released by Friday, a report said.
Citing two Pakistani officials, ABC News said National Security Adviser Tom Donilon made the threat after summoning Hussain Haqqani to the White House.
He reportedly warned that US consulates in Pakistan may be closed and President Asif Ali Zardaris upcoming visit to Washington could be cancelled if Davis, who is charged for killing two Pakistani citizens, was not freed.
ABC News said a senior US official confirmed the details, but Haqqani and the US embassy in Islamabad denied the report.
While the US side has let its position known to us, at no stage has any threat been made to me by any US official at any level and our dialogue continues, Haqqani said. The US and Pakistan remain partners and we look forward to resolving the Raymond Davis case in accordance with international and Pakistani law and in the spirit of our countries friendship, he added.
Courtney Beale, spokeswoman for the US embassy in Islamabad, in a statement said, Although we are unable to discuss the substance of a private diplomatic meeting, the Islamabad US Embassy can state categorically that the description of the conversation in this report is simply inaccurate.
Davis was arrested on January 27 and told police that he shot two men in self-defence, fearing they were about to rob him. The incident took place in broad daylight on a busy street and has sparked angry protests in Pakistan. A Pakistani court on Friday extended Davis remand by another 14 days as police rejected the self-defence claim that he had made. afp(http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\02\12\story_12-2-2011_pg7_2)
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
Islamabad refuses to let Davis go scot-free
* Matter of diplomatic immunity will be taken up in court of law
* US told religious parties can ‘benefit’ from Davis’ release and bring masses on streets
By Raja Riaz
LAHORE: Islamabad has made it clear to Washington that it is unable to give a clean chit to the US national Raymond Allen Davis and let him go. The matter of diplomatic indemnity will also be taken up in the court of law.
The US citizen is involved in killing two Pakistanis in broad daylight at one of the busiest places of the city. Mystery still shrouds about his diplomatic status as Davis was declared a “technical adviser” and a “consular” official. The US embassy officials described him as a “functionary” of the embassy assigned to the US Consulate in Lahore and carrying a US diplomatic passport. The other reports say he was hired at the US Consulate in Lahore as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm Hyperion Protective Consultants.
After killing the two persons in the city, Davis claimed that he did the act in self-defence while on Friday city police chief while addressing a press conference said that their “investigation into the fatal shooting of two citizens by US national Raymond Davis in January has found that the man did not act in self-defence.”
Lahore CCPO Aslam Tareen said that Raymond Davis carried out “an intentional and cold-blooded murder. The investigation was carried out on pure merit which led the police to the conclusion that Davis was guilty of murder.” The police submitted the provisional challan requesting the court to take action against him under the Article 302 of the Pakistan Penal Code.
The US officials have taken up the matter with the Pakistan political and administrative hierarchy and stressed his release. The US officials and diplomatic personalities also contacted the Punjab government and officials and repeatedly demanded his releases. The Punjab government had a simple stance that the matter was to be decided by the court and the matter of diplomatic immunity lies with the Foreign Office and that is a federal subject.
After marathon sessions Islamabad made it clear to the US authorities directly or through American officials that it was not possible for it to release Davis because of several reasons: The Islamic forces have bettered their ranks and have shown their muscles in recent past. They have launched a movement against the government on blasphemy law and the movement was so vigorous that a guard of the Punjab governor killed him. The federal government conveyed to Washington that due to the Islamists movement they have lost their governor Salmaan Taseer and cannot afford their becoming forceful at the movement as the anti-American sentiments are high and religious parties can get benefit of it and bring the masses on streets.
Islamabad feared a Tunisia and Egypt like situation and conveyed to Washington that release of Raymond Davis can create conducive atmosphere for the fundamentalists.
It also conveyed to Washington that the media in Pakistan is free and has created an atmosphere where the public sentiments have diverted to the families of the victims. The suicide of the wife of one of the victims, Faheem, has emotionally charged the atmosphere and public at large is demanding public hanging of Raymond Davis.
It is pertinent to mention that the widow of Muhammad Faheem, one of the two civilians shot dead by Raymond Davis, committed suicide by taking poisonous pills last Sunday, fearing the American would be released without trial. Shumaila, (the widow of Faheem), on deathbed, said that she was upset over the reports that efforts were being made to secure Davis’ release. “I was under shock and decided to kill myself,” she said, adding, “We want blood for blood.”
A large number of local organisations have put up banners on roads, instigating the public emotions with slogans like “Shumaila’s blood challenges the Ghairat (honour) of Pakistani nation.” Islamabad conveyed to Washington that in such situation release of Raymond Allen Davis can create great trouble for them.
On the question of diplomatic immunity, Islamabad conveyed to Washington the concerned person should have told this to the police ab intio but he stressed to be a consultant of the US diplomatic missions and the Punjab Police lodged an FIR against him for murder. The accused did not claimed immunity at the first step and the case was registered now it was not possible to get him out of jail, give him a clean chit and berth on a plane to go scot-free.
A judicial magistrate ordered on Friday that the accused be sent to jail for 14 days.
Islamabad also conveyed to Washington that if they release Davis at this moment it would give a political mileage to their opponent parties who are archrivals and contender of the ruling party in coming elections. They would exploit the fact that a criminal was booked and the federal government released him.
Islamabad asked Washington that raise the question of immunity in the court of law and let it decide his fate. Davis’ lawyer filed an application in the relevant court on Friday seeking indemnity and the judge asked the government prosecutor to file a reply on it.
Islamabad refuses to let Davis go scot-free
* Matter of diplomatic immunity will be taken up in court of law
* US told religious parties can ‘benefit’ from Davis’ release and bring masses on streets
By Raja Riaz
LAHORE: Islamabad has made it clear to Washington that it is unable to give a clean chit to the US national Raymond Allen Davis and let him go. The matter of diplomatic indemnity will also be taken up in the court of law.
The US citizen is involved in killing two Pakistanis in broad daylight at one of the busiest places of the city. Mystery still shrouds about his diplomatic status as Davis was declared a “technical adviser” and a “consular” official. The US embassy officials described him as a “functionary” of the embassy assigned to the US Consulate in Lahore and carrying a US diplomatic passport. The other reports say he was hired at the US Consulate in Lahore as a security contractor from a Florida-based firm Hyperion Protective Consultants.
After killing the two persons in the city, Davis claimed that he did the act in self-defence while on Friday city police chief while addressing a press conference said that their “investigation into the fatal shooting of two citizens by US national Raymond Davis in January has found that the man did not act in self-defence.”
Lahore CCPO Aslam Tareen said that Raymond Davis carried out “an intentional and cold-blooded murder. The investigation was carried out on pure merit which led the police to the conclusion that Davis was guilty of murder.” The police submitted the provisional challan requesting the court to take action against him under the Article 302 of the Pakistan Penal Code.
The US officials have taken up the matter with the Pakistan political and administrative hierarchy and stressed his release. The US officials and diplomatic personalities also contacted the Punjab government and officials and repeatedly demanded his releases. The Punjab government had a simple stance that the matter was to be decided by the court and the matter of diplomatic immunity lies with the Foreign Office and that is a federal subject.
After marathon sessions Islamabad made it clear to the US authorities directly or through American officials that it was not possible for it to release Davis because of several reasons: The Islamic forces have bettered their ranks and have shown their muscles in recent past. They have launched a movement against the government on blasphemy law and the movement was so vigorous that a guard of the Punjab governor killed him. The federal government conveyed to Washington that due to the Islamists movement they have lost their governor Salmaan Taseer and cannot afford their becoming forceful at the movement as the anti-American sentiments are high and religious parties can get benefit of it and bring the masses on streets.
Islamabad feared a Tunisia and Egypt like situation and conveyed to Washington that release of Raymond Davis can create conducive atmosphere for the fundamentalists.
It also conveyed to Washington that the media in Pakistan is free and has created an atmosphere where the public sentiments have diverted to the families of the victims. The suicide of the wife of one of the victims, Faheem, has emotionally charged the atmosphere and public at large is demanding public hanging of Raymond Davis.
It is pertinent to mention that the widow of Muhammad Faheem, one of the two civilians shot dead by Raymond Davis, committed suicide by taking poisonous pills last Sunday, fearing the American would be released without trial. Shumaila, (the widow of Faheem), on deathbed, said that she was upset over the reports that efforts were being made to secure Davis’ release. “I was under shock and decided to kill myself,” she said, adding, “We want blood for blood.”
A large number of local organisations have put up banners on roads, instigating the public emotions with slogans like “Shumaila’s blood challenges the Ghairat (honour) of Pakistani nation.” Islamabad conveyed to Washington that in such situation release of Raymond Allen Davis can create great trouble for them.
On the question of diplomatic immunity, Islamabad conveyed to Washington the concerned person should have told this to the police ab intio but he stressed to be a consultant of the US diplomatic missions and the Punjab Police lodged an FIR against him for murder. The accused did not claimed immunity at the first step and the case was registered now it was not possible to get him out of jail, give him a clean chit and berth on a plane to go scot-free.
A judicial magistrate ordered on Friday that the accused be sent to jail for 14 days.
Islamabad also conveyed to Washington that if they release Davis at this moment it would give a political mileage to their opponent parties who are archrivals and contender of the ruling party in coming elections. They would exploit the fact that a criminal was booked and the federal government released him.
Islamabad asked Washington that raise the question of immunity in the court of law and let it decide his fate. Davis’ lawyer filed an application in the relevant court on Friday seeking indemnity and the judge asked the government prosecutor to file a reply on it.
tiger54
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
only if u want to be even poorer than this would be a good decision! right now pakistan is on the lifeline of american and international aid.
anything goes wrong here v wont have money to even buy milk!
only if u want to be even poorer than this would be a good decision! right now pakistan is on the lifeline of american and international aid.
anything goes wrong here v wont have money to even buy milk!
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
امریکی حکام کے یہ بیانات صرف گیدڑ بھپکی ہے - آخری دم تک وہ کوشش کرینگے دھمکیوں سے کام چلانے کی
افغان کی سپلائی لائن بند ہوگیی تو کیا کرینگے یہ - امریکا ہمیشہ یہ ہی کہتا ہے اگر ایسا نہیں کروگے تو میں ایسا کر دونگا
سفارت کار نے یہ حرکت کرکے امریکی حکّام کو مصیبت میں ڈال دیا ہے - حکّام کو اچھی طرح پتہ ہے کہ صرف دھمکیاں ہی دے سکتے ہیں -
دوسری طرف زرداری کے لیے بہترین موقع ہے اپنی کریڈٹ ریٹنگ بہتر کرنے کا. انتخابات جو آ رہے ہیں - انکو اچھی طرح یہ بھی معلوم ہے کہ اگر قاتل کو رہا کر دیا گیا تو عوام عمران خان یا نواز کہ ساتھ ہو جاینگے اور یہ کبھی بھی وہ برداشت نہیں کرسکتے اس لیے کہ اسکی رہائی پی پی پی کی موت ہوگی
ہاں اگر ججوں کو بڑی بھاری رشوت دے دی یا وعدے وعید کر دیا بڑے عھدے کی تو پھر کامیابی ہو سکتی ہے
افغان کی سپلائی لائن بند ہوگیی تو کیا کرینگے یہ - امریکا ہمیشہ یہ ہی کہتا ہے اگر ایسا نہیں کروگے تو میں ایسا کر دونگا
سفارت کار نے یہ حرکت کرکے امریکی حکّام کو مصیبت میں ڈال دیا ہے - حکّام کو اچھی طرح پتہ ہے کہ صرف دھمکیاں ہی دے سکتے ہیں -
دوسری طرف زرداری کے لیے بہترین موقع ہے اپنی کریڈٹ ریٹنگ بہتر کرنے کا. انتخابات جو آ رہے ہیں - انکو اچھی طرح یہ بھی معلوم ہے کہ اگر قاتل کو رہا کر دیا گیا تو عوام عمران خان یا نواز کہ ساتھ ہو جاینگے اور یہ کبھی بھی وہ برداشت نہیں کرسکتے اس لیے کہ اسکی رہائی پی پی پی کی موت ہوگی
ہاں اگر ججوں کو بڑی بھاری رشوت دے دی یا وعدے وعید کر دیا بڑے عھدے کی تو پھر کامیابی ہو سکتی ہے
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
the question is can they afford to expel Pakistani embassador and close thir counselates? to my mind answer is big NO .friday here is already gone and after few hours it will be over in US also. lets wait and see. i m sure if they do so sky will not fall. it could be difficult time for those who r living on dollers or have their assets out side the country. for a common man it shall make no difference except that people have to come out on roads for changing, and that will be better for our country to get rid of their clutches.
the question is can they afford to expel Pakistani embassador and close thir counselates? to my mind answer is big NO .friday here is already gone and after few hours it will be over in US also. lets wait and see. i m sure if they do so sky will not fall. it could be difficult time for those who r living on dollers or have their assets out side the country. for a common man it shall make no difference except that people have to come out on roads for changing, and that will be better for our country to get rid of their clutches.
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
To the US Govt:
Please do expel Haqqani. We want him back too to replace him someone who is Pakistani. Please hurry up.
May be thats why Haqqani is in Pak because he has been expelled
To the US Govt:
Please do expel Haqqani. We want him back too to replace him someone who is Pakistani. Please hurry up.
May be thats why Haqqani is in Pak because he has been expelled
wanderer
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
Walikum as salam
U tell me (serious)??
Walikum as salam
U tell me (serious)??
wanderer
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
apnay puppet koh kaun expel karayga ??? Its all drama, zardari and his US lords kah.
apnay puppet koh kaun expel karayga ??? Its all drama, zardari and his US lords kah.
rolnrol
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: US threatens to expel Pakistan Ambassador Haqqani !!!
tiger54 let americans kill your father and sone or brother if you have one and then make the same statement about pakistan getting poorer and not able to buy milk and if anyone talks about your father brother or sons death tell him hey let it go man we need american money.
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
