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EniGma90

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hazrat Muhammad (saw) called todays mullahs worst creature under the sky 1400 years before. And current period mullah proved by their own act that they are worst creature under the sky...

Can you please provide the link of above statement??? I heard that Rasool pbuh stated the last ummah as best ummah of all time because we are believing in islam and rasool saw even without seeing them..
There were people and so called freinds of prophet pbuh who turned against His pbuh orders, while He pbuh was present among them. for example Gazwa-ahad.. and there were people like abbasis, umavis, yazed ibne muawya and marwans, who witnessed prophethood of Hazrat Muhammad pbuh with their own eyes, but turned against Him and killed His Household :Allaih: and Sahbas:razi: just after prophet's pbuh death..

As far as social sins and crimes are concerned, unfortunately we have more opportunities for sins as compare to them but these bad habits were practiced by them as well..
 

mrbaig

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں؟

i took this from wikipedia please refer to for more details

[SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Raza_Khan_Barelvi[/SUP]

Raza Khan opposed the belief in a heliocentric universe, instead stating that the sun and moon circulate around the Earth.[SUP][citation needed]







do you beleave this ???
He analysed whether it was credible that Hussain was able to travel from Mecca to Kerbala on 3rd Zilhij and reach there on 2nd of Moharram. He investigated the types of horse, the loads they carried, the route of the caravan, the types of terrain, and other factors, and finally concluded that the caravan could feasibly have reached Kerbala by the 2nd.

(well how??was he equiped with gprs/spedometer sort of devices or he himself traveled on horses not clear to me)


well its indeed laughable scientific assumption as we all know.. lets correct it and he has involvement in breaking umma further apart so lets be united.
aik ho muslim haram ki pasbani ka lia.
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احمد رضا تو بہت شرارتی اور انگریزوں کا پروردہ تھا۔بے انتہا مشرک۔اس ہی لیئے اس کی کتابوں پر 22 مسلمان ممالک میں پابندی لگی ہوئی ہے۔جاہل لوگ اب بھی اس کو مانتے ہیں اور شرک میں گھسے جا رہے ہیں۔
اس کے پیروکار تو اس کو سپر مین بنا کر پیش کرتے ہیں۔کہتے ہیں وہ سر ضیاالدین سے بڑا حساب داں تھا۔اس نے ہی دو قومی نظریہ پیش کیا۔100 سے زیادہ علوم پر دسترس حاصل تھی۔وغیرہ وغیرہ۔اس فتنے کا زہر آج تک جہلا میں پھیلا ہوا ہے۔اس قران پاک کی تفسیر میں بھی ہیر پھیر کی اور حضور کو زندہ اور عالم الغیب بتایا۔
 

shaheedchoudry

Minister (2k+ posts)
Its war of sects. Brelvi vs deobandi. Brelvi ka founder Ahmad Raza aur Deobandi ka Qasim Nanotvi. Both of these sects hail from India. Allah dono sey bachay. Lets condemn every firqa.
 

shaheedchoudry

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں؟

احمد رضا تو بہت شرارتی اور انگریزوں کا پروردہ تھا۔بے انتہا مشرک۔اس ہی لیئے اس کی کتابوں پر 22 مسلمان ممالک میں پابندی لگی ہوئی ہے۔جاہل لوگ اب بھی اس کو مانتے ہیں اور شرک میں گھسے جا رہے ہیں۔
اس کے پیروکار تو اس کو سپر مین بنا کر پیش کرتے ہیں۔کہتے ہیں وہ سر ضیاالدین سے بڑا حساب داں تھا۔اس نے ہی دو قومی نظریہ پیش کیا۔100 سے زیادہ علوم پر دسترس حاصل تھی۔وغیرہ وغیرہ۔اس فتنے کا زہر آج تک جہلا میں پھیلا ہوا ہے۔اس قران پاک کی تفسیر میں بھی ہیر پھیر کی اور حضور کو زندہ اور عالم الغیب بتایا۔
Dil khosh ker diya aap nay. You wrote every thing I wanted to say only in a better way. I must say you made my day. Thanks. I am so glad to find people like you on this forum.
 

Scorpion

Banned
The question is were these the only goofs to represent the Ulama-e-Deen? Or Media is purposely involved in damaging the image of Ulama by bringing such goons on board? Every move of media seems to be targeted.

Dear

The true Ulemas has taken the right decision of not becoming the part of such stupid talk shows . . . .
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں؟

احمد رضا تو بہت شرارتی اور انگریزوں کا پروردہ تھا۔بے انتہا مشرک۔اس ہی لیئے اس کی کتابوں پر 22 مسلمان ممالک میں پابندی لگی ہوئی ہے۔جاہل لوگ اب بھی اس کو مانتے ہیں اور شرک میں گھسے جا رہے ہیں۔
اس کے پیروکار تو اس کو سپر مین بنا کر پیش کرتے ہیں۔کہتے ہیں وہ سر ضیاالدین سے بڑا حساب داں تھا۔اس نے ہی دو قومی نظریہ پیش کیا۔100 سے زیادہ علوم پر دسترس حاصل تھی۔وغیرہ وغیرہ۔اس فتنے کا زہر آج تک جہلا میں پھیلا ہوا ہے۔اس قران پاک کی تفسیر میں بھی ہیر پھیر کی اور حضور کو زندہ اور عالم الغیب بتایا۔



Assalam-o-alaikum wr wb



bhai Serf Huzoor Saww he nahi bal k tamam Anmbia as apni quboor main hayaat hain...or puri muslim ummah ka es baat pay Ijma hai
 

shaheedchoudry

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں

Pure Quran Or Hadith Kia Hoti Hai ??? Thora Ummah Ki Rehnumaee Bhi Kardayin Hazrat ???

Fazael-e-Amal Ki Taleem Ka Samar Tu Sab K Samny Hai Puri Dunya Main Eski Taleem Hoti Hai
or Her Rang-o-Nasal Ka Musalman Esko Sunta Hai Or Amal Karta Hai..Hazaroon Lakhoo Log Eski Taleem K Samar
Say Musalman Hoay Hain Or Hazaro Lakho Wapis Deen Pay Lotay Hain..


Kiuon Confusion Pehla Rahay Ho Awam Main ???
This book Fazal-e-Amal is with every tableegi jamat going around the world. You said, because of this book hazaroon lakhon muslaman huay. Can you give me the phone number of 1 person who became muslaman because of that. Main khuda ko hazar nazir jaan ker kehta hoon, k ous new muslaman sey jo bhi baat hui woh es forum per share karoun ga. I am anxiously waiting for that.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Dear

The true Ulemas has taken the right decision of not becoming the part of such stupid talk shows . . . .

So they have left the field open for Ulama-e-Soo, people like Zaid Hamid (Just for argument sake, as you strongly believe in him being a fishy character, though the reality may be different), and the political Hyenas and are enjoying the plight of the nation suffering from Azaab-e-Ilahi (aik dosray ka gala kaat kar maza chakh rahay hein), and soon they too shall become victim of this Azaab-e-Ilahi for not doing there job of "Nahi-Anil-Munkar".(serious)
 
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Scorpion

Banned
Hazrat Muhammad (saw) called todays mullahs worst creature under the sky 1400 years before. And current period mullah proved by their own act that they are worst creature under the sky...

Off course dear . . . . Especially your Mirza Qadiyani was the worst creature of all . . . . The political and religious divide which this Scoundrel has created under the umbrella of the British Raj is one of the main reason for the current divide . . . .
 

Ehraz

MPA (400+ posts)
Can you please provide the link of above statement???

There will come a time for my people when there will remain nothing of the Qur'an except its outward form and nothing of Islam except its name and they will call themselves by this name even though they are the people furthest from it. The mosques will be full of people but they will be empty of right guidance. The religious leaders of that day will be the most evil religious leaders under the heavens; sedition and dissension will go out from them and to them will it return. (Ibn Babuya, Thawab ul-A'mal, also Mishkatul Masabih, Kitabul Ilm)

This is now the condition of the so-called Muslims who have sought to hold Islam hostage.
 

Scorpion

Banned
So they have left the field open for Ulama-e-Soo, people like Zaid Hamid (Just for argument sake, as you strongly believe in him being a fishy character, though the reality may be different), and the political Hyenas and are enjoying the plight of the nation suffering from Azaab-e-Ilahi (aik dosray ka gala kaat kar maza chakh rahay hein), and soon they too shall become victim of this Azaab-e-Ilahi for not doing there job of "Nahi-Anil-Munkar".(serious)

Dear,

This media itself is the Azab e Ilahi . . . . What do you want that the true Ulemas should join it . . . . Its same as you piss a few drops in a tub from one side and drink its water from the other side thinking it to be paak . . . . The day these true Ulemas came on the TV channels . . . . And even they will loose respect . . . . Because the religion is to be teached and followed instead of being debated . . . .
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں

This book Fazal-e-Amal is with every tableegi jamat going around the world. You said, because of this book hazaroon lakhon muslaman huay. Can you give me the phone number of 1 person who became muslaman because of that. Main khuda ko hazar nazir jaan ker kehta hoon, k ous new muslaman sey jo bhi baat hui woh es forum per share karoun ga. I am anxiously waiting for that.


bhai kiuon batoon ko khench tan k batangar banatay ho ap log tanqeed baray tanqeed achi cheaz nahi...


mera batay ka maqsad yeh tha k oski taleemat say jo tableeghi hazrat parh k sumhaj k logo ko dawat daytay hain us k samar say ...
ap achi tarha jantay hain k puri dunya main neklay hoay tableeghi hazraat ki tarteeb hai k rozana kise waqat masjid main es kitab say taleem di jati hai
or yeh tu fazail ki kitab masail ki tu nahi k koe masla os main ghalat likha ho os pay tanqeed karna sumhaj say bala tar hai


or call he karni hai tu Mohammad Yousf Ko Kar Layin ???


im in africa mainay yahan tableeghi hazraat k hath pay kaee kaee dozens logo ko musalman hotay dekha hai.....
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں

Pure Quran Or Hadith Kia Hoti Hai ??? Thora Ummah Ki Rehnumaee Bhi Kardayin Hazrat ???

Fazael-e-Amal Ki Taleem Ka Samar Tu Sab K Samny Hai Puri Dunya Main Eski Taleem Hoti Hai
or Her Rang-o-Nasal Ka Musalman Esko Sunta Hai Or Amal Karta Hai..Hazaroon Lakhoo Log Eski Taleem K Samar
Say Musalman Hoay Hain Or Hazaro Lakho Wapis Deen Pay Lotay Hain..


Kiuon Confusion Pehla Rahay Ho Awam Main ???

Bahi Mai koi confusion nahi pehla raha
PURE sai MURAD hai kai
SAHI BUKHARI
SAHI MUSLIM
ya deegar Mustanid Kitaboon ko kioon
NAHI BAYAN KIA JATA AWAM KAI SAMNEY
Aur
QURAN ko kioon nahi PARAH jata TARJUMEY aur TAFSEER kai saath
Jo MUSTANID tareen hain?

Har MAZHABHI TAIKHIDAAR nai apni marzi ki NAQAL ko ASAL bana kar
US PAR ZOOR RAKHA HOWA HAI
KIOON?
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: کیا یہ لوگ عالم دین ہیں

Bahi Mai koi confusion nahi pehla raha
PURE sai MURAD hai kai
SAHI BUKHARI
SAHI MUSLIM
ya deegar Mustanid Kitaboon ko kioon
NAHI BAYAN KIA JATA AWAM KAI SAMNEY
Aur
QURAN ko kioon nahi PARAH jata TARJUMEY aur TAFSEER kai saath
Jo MUSTANID tareen hain?

Har MAZHABHI TAIKHIDAAR nai apni marzi ki NAQAL ko ASAL bana kar
US PAR ZOOR RAKHA HOWA HAI
KIOON?


watan dost bhai

tu phir app khodh confuse hain ....

kiuon fazail-e-amal main ahadith-e-mubarka he darjh hain....


kiuon k awam na quran ko khodh sumhaj saktay hain na tarjuma or tafaseer ko baghir kise mustanad alim k..

app kise ek hadith say koe masla khodh say nahi sumhaj saktay ...... app in kutub k baghair namaz tak k masail quran hadith say nahi
sumhaj saktay ...


bilawaja ulema or mustand kutub pay tanqeed kar k na khodh gumrah hoon na dosroo ko karayin




JazakAllah khair
 
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