Zaid Hamid furious over Nawaz Sharif's statement on Two-Nations Theory

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Nawaz Shareef metaphorically slams Creation of Pakistan in his SAFMA speech

Noon Leagi Chamchay: "Jiay Nawaz Jiay Shahbaz! Humara Sher Jo Bhi Kahay Hum Maan Len Ge, Kyunke Hum Us Ke Mulazim Hain..."
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Unicorn why are you offended about the foundation of Pakistan when you are an Indian?

Asqari - your knowledge is short. You are an army preacher and follower so you are saying this. I have seen live interview of A Q Khan and seen who took the decision. It wasn't Army for sure. Also, have you forgotten Kargil.... if u say it was not Army's mistake, then I am not replying to any comments from you coz ur information wouldn't be worth spending time on.

Zaid Hamid - I listend to this guy for over 100 hours. Watched all his programs. No doubt he has brought some good knowledge to people but instead of placing himself well he has became a red-hat joker. He is on ISI's payroll and gets all the information from ISI. He is paid very high by ISI to just clean up Army and ISI. Also, kis mun say he is mentioning about East Pakistan event>?? It was not the aaloo gosht khanay walay....it was sharab peenay walay, wife swinging krne wale, land maafia bananay walay, military Inc. kay bananay walay or malik hamaray khaki wardi walay.

Asqari - I agree we should support our Army but there is a limit to it. If Army doesn't want to fix itself we don't need such an army. They have done more harm than favor to Pakistan. That's not true about Canadian or US-Army....atleast not Canadian Army.

Army does not want to fix itself, what a strange thing to say, that is why these Leaders are elected to fix every thing. Army. power, water, infrastructure, all they do is blame previous GOP and or threaten or ask Army to fix itself.

According to reports Pak Army was working on Kargil for few years, making trenches,taking supplies to those points, and Prime minister did not know but following report tells that NS was in Kashmir part near Kargil to inspect the troops, read and be enlightened.

http://www.paktribune.com/pforums/posts.php?t=2311&start=1
 

pak4rule

Senator (1k+ posts)
I am still waiting .............. where is your link that which proves that IK is against two nation theory?

IK, Zaid JI aur doosaroo ka bura khanay say Nawaz ka statement sahi nahi ho jayee ga bhai.

Do some research and present some creditable evidence that IK gave any statement against two nation theory.

Have you given evidence about Nawaz that he said two nation theory was wrong ?
I have given you URLs where IK has said identical sentences as of NS that india and pakistan have common culture .

Dear as for as Aik Rab statement , I have said its not that wrong but just for the sake of criticise NS you just making fuss out of nothing.
Kindly stop making same accusation again and again when I have answered it already.
its time waste.
 

warsalan

Citizen
And that same Army arrested ,humiliated, dis grassed Doc Qadeer ,in 2004, :angry_smile: And about Kargil how Nawaz mishandle it , why Army accepts his cease fire order,s at that time , and when that same Nawaz ordered about that Rascal Musharaaf is no more a COAS Then they revolt , instead of revolting at the time of so called National interest of Kashmir why they choose to revolt on the day of 12th Oct 1999, So do talk sense.

What world do you live in, look at the Armies of U.S, Canada and U.K, though many soldiers and citizens disagree with what is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan but they stand by their country and their Army and there soldiers.

Those bomb tested by Nawaz shareef were actually forced by Army. Nawaz was very much against it, read moemoirs by dr. Qadeer.

Kargil where when withdrawing Army as Nawaz had given in about Kashmir being disputed territory and being scared from bill withdrew our forces and that is when most of our soldiers were martyed by Indian Army even though it was part of the withdrawal not to shoot soldiers from behind. Read book by Mushraf.
 

warsalan

Citizen
And If same stance on India will be taken by Imran Khan ? then, Who is seems to be our last hope,
 
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pakiace

Banned
can WE PLEASE HAVE THIS DOCTOR WATEVA **** KICKED OUTTA THIS FORUM! I URGE THE MODERATORS TO HAVE A CLOSE EYE ON ALL THE TOM, DICK, HARRY'S JOINING HERE & IF SOMEONE IS POSTING FOR THE SAKE OF POSTING - HE/SHE SHALL FACE A PENALTY OF NO PERMISSION TO POST/SUBMIT OR REPLY IN ANY THREAD/POST! SUCH WILL DISTINGUISH A FAKE PROFILE FROM A GENUINE'S
 

warsalan

Citizen
Yes ,You are right Army was working on Kargil way back in 1985 when Brig Aziz now Ret Leut Gen Aziz put this idea of adventure to Gen Zia ul haq he refused and snubbed that Aziz ,then same idea launched with Gen Aslam Beg he also refused to order to go head as it was nothing but a stupid suicide mission and it was totally proved later when happened.
That Musharaaf with three other,s who are totally responsible for that.
People with facts and figure,s are not all died as yet. And about Army do remember about Saif U Allah awarded by Hazrat Mohammad SAW to Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed , after committing wrong doing he was also punished by Hazrat Umar. No one is above the law.Not even a Sahabie, so do ask these Army men that are they have greater stature than Hazrat Khalid bin Waleed.
People in Pakistan are so Shaksiaat Parasat they do,nt have any idea about the issue,s just personal liking and disliking and talk nonsense as this website is a clear indication of that.

Army does not want to fix itself, what a strange thing to say, that is why these Leaders are elected to fix every thing. Army. power, water, infrastructure, all they do is blame previous GOP and or threaten or ask Army to fix itself.

According to reports Pak Army was working on Kargil for few years, making trenches,taking supplies to those points, and Prime minister did not know but following report tells that NS was in Kashmir part near Kargil to inspect the troops, read and be enlightened.

http://www.paktribune.com/pforums/posts.php?t=2311&start=1
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And that same Army arrested ,humiliated, dis grassed Doc Qadeer ,in 2004, :angry_smile: And about Kargil how Nawaz mishandle it , why Army accepts his cease fire order,s at that time , and when that same Nawaz ordered about that Rascal Musharaaf is no more a COAS Then they revolt , instead of revolting at the time of so called National interest of Kashmir why they choose to revolt on the day of 12th Oct 1999, So do talk sense.

Now you are blabbering, so I am not answering your blabbering, if and when you make sense, I shall answer you. It looks like truth is getting you.
 

Keepinformed

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Zahid Hamid is an Islamic terrorist supporter who has limited knowledge and would do anything for money. Anything he says is mostly taken from other websites. He googles and then spits out the material.

Same goes with the majority of media anchors that can reach new limits for their publicity. They too like zahid hamid etc have their bank accounts abroad and are just waiting for things to crack so that they can catch the next emirates airlines flight.

Nawaz sharif is also super currupt who has made billions looting ignorant jahil pakistanis however its like an old age don coming to senses and slowly repenting. It would take a lot more than that. Having said they he did make a good speech about what the truth really is and how things should have been. For a large part many Pakistanis have been permanently brainwashed and no one can change their mindset. Eventually we will all suffer and reach our deserving end.

(clap)
 

warsalan

Citizen
Now you are blabbering, so I am not answering your blabbering, if and when you make sense, I shall answer you. It looks like truth is getting you.

It looks like truth is getting you
Then do make sense on your own words, about US, EU ,Canadian public supports their Armies, how come? Before Iraq Invasion there were Million people marches in Washington and main capitals of EU,against their own Govt,s and Armies, and top of all that no other army in the world ever captured their own country instead of capturing enemy territory , while bordering with arch rival enemy like India accept Pakistan Army.

And about Nuclear tests issue there were debate was going on in the cabinet and in the closed sessions of the parliament with different opinions of pro,s con,s and eventually decided to go a head with the test. As it is very usual in a democracy .
And when NPT issue arises in 2004 who made Doc Qadeer an escape goat ,its Musharaaf and Qidwai, you referred a book of Dr Qadeer , he is still in good health one can ask about his point of view and feelings about Nuclear tests in 1998 ,and his humiliation in 2004 in that whole drama by Establishment under influenced by western powers and so called Qadeer Network ,much propagated and maligned by army Generals to save their own neck and Pakistani Media as well.
About Kargil if you know about that issue come along i can debate in reality than your some quoted references.
While supporting or criticizing any thing one must cater facts ,figures and history.

So i think i make sense if you still think that i do,nt , then do,nt bother to reply, because your all postings on the subject are completely base less with no
concrete supportive and logical substance.
 
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warsalan

Citizen
489482]If it is true than one good deed is commendable, but I am not privy to it, I said if it is true than it is a good deed, But i would like to know about what is being said in the following video, it is very serious charge against NS, Watch and let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlhslrK7Ank&feature=player_embedded[/QUOTE]

Only if one thinks Kim , Denial pearl and all other westerns journalists are unbiased, true angles and always correct , same stories were circulating in western media on Imran Khan as well, but i never bothered.

Why do,nt Our Media highlighted and propagated some books written by Muslim journalists about George W Bush, Tony Blair and other Western leaders and about 9/11 as well, just because they are being paid to do the same what they are doing.
 
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mrasif80

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
If it is true than one good deed is commendable, but I am not privy to it, I said if it is true than it is a good deed, But i would like to know about what is being said in the following video, it is very serious charge against NS, Watch and let me know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlhslrK7Ank&feature=player_embedded

Why it should bother me if NS had anything to say to a foreign journalist off the record. Have you forgotten your teaching to me its personal matter of Mehr etc etc...

Check what the woman has to say about IK in the end of this article http://e.jang.com.pk/pic.asp?npic=08-18-2011/Karachi/images/06_08.gif
 

mrasif80

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Why it should bother me if NS had anything to say to a foreign journalist off the record. Have you forgotten your teaching to me its personal matter of Mehr etc etc...

Check what the woman has to say about IK in the end of this article http://e.jang.com.pk/pic.asp?npic=08-18-2011/Karachi/images/06_08.gif

IK is not acceptable as a parliament member to us, he is not serious man and he was a playboy in his carrier. Married to a converted Muslim but she still followed unislamic life style and went away with a non muslim.

And this host a minister in the Musharraf era. Biased and 'kam aqal', unqualified and planted.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Beside all and every thing, My only concern is did NS pass on vital information about our Nuclear and other secrets, as a Prime minister he knows all these secret information, according to this video he did, I hope he did not, but it looks he did.

enemies of Pakistan want to know where our Nuclear assets are and if he gave them the secrets than Pakistan is in trouble.

I pray to Allah S.W.T. that he save Pakistan from Enemies within or without. Ameen
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And that same Army arrested ,humiliated, dis grassed Doc Qadeer ,in 2004, :angry_smile: And about Kargil how Nawaz mishandle it , why Army accepts his cease fire order,s at that time , and when that same Nawaz ordered about that Rascal Musharaaf is no more a COAS Then they revolt , instead of revolting at the time of so called National interest of Kashmir why they choose to revolt on the day of 12th Oct 1999, So do talk sense.

Again u r not seeing the true picture my friend, It is the duty of Leader, the political leader to fix and control Army, judiciary, civil services, and the police and the country, every thing, If a leader cannot do it than he is not a Leader, stop saying Army arrested and than did this and did that, please learn how a country is run, it is run by a leader, not by any one else, so stop putting blame and see if Leader is leading, do not say that police did this, Army did this, arrested this arrested that,

If it is what you say than It is a failure of Leadership, As a leader if he saw that Army or Police or judiciary or anyone else doing something wrong, he the leader must use his power, finesse,or smarts to fix the problem and not say he did this, or he did that.
 
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All i can say is that :2 Nation theory failed in 1947 itself when more than 1/3rd muslims decided to stay in their motherland!!

With creation of bangladesh;it was dumped into iggy bin of dhakha !!So much hypothetic brotherhood ->World saw killing and raping of millions of bangladeshi muslims!!


Why should not we close this farce thread?

Zahil hamid should stop living in mystified jinnah pakistan which was short lived,bogus and hoax!!

Jinnah pakistan was never conceived by its founders;delivery was never possible :( :( .....nor did his full blood daughter want to live in land of feudal landlords,zagirdars........
 
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