Why did MQM not register FIR against ANP? Why Just Blame Game........?

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
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Why MQM didn't register FIR against ANP?

Why were they just playing blame game and accusing Shahi Sayed?

It means that :

..............MQM also doesn't want to Register FIR against ANP, because they also want to kill innocent Pakhtoons

..............They don't want peace in Karachi.

..............MQM doesn't want the rule of Law. They just want the rule of "Bullet and Gun" and for One Person they have killed about 50 innocent people. Was Mr Raza Haider was valuable than these 50 people?

Note: This shows that MQM is a Terrorist Organisation and nothing less.

Pleae Just read the following news as an example.

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Source. Jang News. Dated 3rd August 2010
 
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mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Why MQM didn't register FIR against ANP?

Why were they just playing blame game and accusing Shahi Sayed?

It means that :

..............MQM also doesn't want to Register FIR against ANP, because they also want to kill innocent Pakhtoons

..............They don't want peace in Karachi.

..............MQM doesn't want the rule of Law. They just want the rule of "Bullet and Gun" and for One Person they have killed about 50 innocent people. Was Mr Raza Haider was valuable than these 50 people?

Note: This shows that MQM is a Terrorist Organisation and nothing less.

Pleae Just read the following news as an example.

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Source. Jang News. Dated 3rd August 2010

معذرت کے ساتھ، مگر آپ بہت تعصبانی عینک سے حالات کو دیکھ رہے ہیں اس لیے آپ کو متحدہ کا مؤقف نظر نہیں آتا۔

رضا حیدر صاحب کی شہادت کے مقابلے میں اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم کے آفس میں فائرنگ کرنے والے اے این پی کے کارکنوں کو باقاعدہ طور پر علاقے کے لوگوں نے اچھی طرح پہچان لیا اور اسکی ایف آئی آر درج کروائی۔

اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم نے 150+ افراد کی پوری لسٹ ہر ہر ایجنسی اور حکومت کو مہیا کی ہے جن کی اکثریت اے این پی کے کارکنوں کی ہے۔

مگر یہ سب کچھ آپ کو کیوں نظر آئے گا۔

آپ کو تو یہ بھی نظر نہیں آ رہا کہ ایم کیو ایم کے تمام آفیشلز بشمول الطاف حسین کل رات سے ہی ٹی وی پر اور ہر ہر جگہ عوام کو پرسکون رہنے کی ہدایات کر رہے ہیں۔

اگر آپ واقعی کہتے ہیں کہ تحریک انصاف پڑھی لکھی جماعت ہے، تو پھر آپ کو اپنا برتاؤ بھی انصاف کے تقاضوں کے مطابق رکھنا چاہیے۔

جیوری بھائی نے یہاں صاف صاف ویڈیوز پیش کی تھیں جہاں پولیس نے اے این پی کے لیڈروں کو باقاعدہ طور پر گرفتار کیا ہوا ہے۔ افسوس کہ وہ بھی آپ کو نظر نہیں آئیں۔

جب نفرتیں پھیلتی ہیں تو گیہوں کے ساتھ ساتھ گھن بھی پس رہا ہوتا ہے۔

قائد اعظم نے کبھی پاکستانی مسلمانوں کو نہیں کہا تھا کہ وہ ہجرت کرنے والے ہندؤوں کو لوٹیں اور قتل کریں۔ مگر عوام کبھی لیڈران کی بات نہیں سن رہی ہوتی ہے بلکہ اندھی ہوئی ہوتی ہے۔ آپ ہر چیز کا الزام اب ایم کیو ایم پر رکھنا نہ شروع کر دیں بلکہ ہر بات میرٹ پر کریں۔ شکریہ۔
 

Mumtaz

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
معذرت کے ساتھ، مگر آپ بہت تعصبانی عینک سے حالات کو دیکھ رہے ہیں اس لیے آپ کو متحدہ کا مؤقف نظر نہیں آتا۔

رضا حیدر صاحب کی شہادت کے مقابلے میں اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم کے آفس میں فائرنگ کرنے والے اے این پی کے کارکنوں کو باقاعدہ طور پر علاقے کے لوگوں نے اچھی طرح پہچان لیا اور اسکی ایف آئی آر درج کروائی۔

اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم نے 150+ افراد کی پوری لسٹ ہر ہر ایجنسی اور حکومت کو مہیا کی ہے جن کی اکثریت اے این پی کے کارکنوں کی ہے۔

مگر یہ سب کچھ آپ کو کیوں نظر آئے گا۔

آپ کو تو یہ بھی نظر نہیں آ رہا کہ ایم کیو ایم کے تمام آفیشلز بشمول الطاف حسین کل رات سے ہی ٹی وی پر اور ہر ہر جگہ عوام کو پرسکون رہنے کی ہدایات کر رہے ہیں۔

اگر آپ واقعی کہتے ہیں کہ تحریک انصاف پڑھی لکھی جماعت ہے، تو پھر آپ کو اپنا برتاؤ بھی انصاف کے تقاضوں کے مطابق رکھنا چاہیے۔

جیوری بھائی نے یہاں صاف صاف ویڈیوز پیش کی تھیں جہاں پولیس نے اے این پی کے لیڈروں کو باقاعدہ طور پر گرفتار کیا ہوا ہے۔ افسوس کہ وہ بھی آپ کو نظر نہیں آئیں۔

جب نفرتیں پھیلتی ہیں تو گیہوں کے ساتھ ساتھ گھن بھی پس رہا ہوتا ہے۔

قائد اعظم نے کبھی پاکستانی مسلمانوں کو نہیں کہا تھا کہ وہ ہجرت کرنے والے ہندؤوں کو لوٹیں اور قتل کریں۔ مگر عوام کبھی لیڈران کی بات نہیں سن رہی ہوتی ہے بلکہ اندھی ہوئی ہوتی ہے۔ آپ ہر چیز کا الزام اب ایم کیو ایم پر رکھنا نہ شروع کر دیں بلکہ ہر بات میرٹ پر کریں۔ شکریہ۔

blah blah blah blah....stupid excuses
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Why MQM didn't register FIR against ANP?

Why were they just playing blame game and accusing Shahi Sayed?

It means that :

..............MQM also doesn't want to Register FIR against ANP, because they also want to kill innocent Pakhtoons

..............They don't want peace in Karachi.

..............MQM doesn't want the rule of Law. They just want the rule of "Bullet and Gun" and for One Person they have killed about 50 innocent people. Was Mr Raza Haider was valuable than these 50 people?

Note: This shows that MQM is a Terrorist Organisation and nothing less.

Pleae Just read the following news as an example.

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Source. Jang News. Dated 3rd August 2010


My friend please remove the blind fold from your face and start looking at things as they are. I must agree that you have vivid imaginations. You are imagining things that are not even there. All this is your figment of imagination. In psychology your state of mind is called projection, please look it up and do some soul searching. For your convenience I am posting the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Mehwish Ali, as always, has explained it very politely and decently and in fair detail. Please read it and try to come to some informed conclusions. Thankyou!
 
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YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
The reason might be because EYE WITNESS CANT BE SURE WHOM THE KILLER WAS ASSOCIATED WITH....That is why FIR wasnt launched against ANP...ANP is a SUSPECT in this event not actually framed...I think that must clear the misconception....
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The reason might be because EYE WITNESS CANT BE SURE WHOM THE KILLER WAS ASSOCIATED WITH....That is why FIR wasnt launched against ANP...ANP is a SUSPECT in this event not actually framed...I think that must clear the misconception....

Laughable reply
All your leaders are following one route only that it was ANP and now you say that Eye Witness can not be sure who the killers are associated with.
Effectively you are saying that your leaders have no brains
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The reason might be because EYE WITNESS CANT BE SURE WHOM THE KILLER WAS ASSOCIATED WITH....That is why FIR wasnt launched against ANP...ANP is a SUSPECT in this event not actually framed...I think that must clear the misconception....

Its a political statements which has nothing to do with evidence.And the excuse, that the FIR was filed in previous case when the worker of ANP was recognized but since nothing came out of that FIR ,so we decided not to pursue the lawfull path but rather take the matter in our own hands this time, is a clear indication of your intention. I am against these kind of coward killings no matter who the culprit is. Yesterday, it is MQM local leader who was killed by this blind hatred, today there were many innocents who lost their lives only because actual culprits were not apprehended, "suspicion" got better of MQM and the retaliation started. It is complete failure of both level of the Government as far as the law and order situation is concerned.The only thing Rehman utter is the word "TALIBAN" out of his regularly used vocabulary.Taibans are not unseen aliens who come on bike, strike the victum and just disappear.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Laughable reply
All your leaders are following one route only that it was ANP and now you say that Eye Witness can not be sure who the killers are associated with.
Effectively you are saying that your leaders have no brains
If you are launching an FIR then you need to be very sure about the element which could be involved or otherwise some innocent might get caught due to all this or investigation's angle also changed so that is why to keep the angle of investigation on the right track the FIR is launched against Unknown person.....Organization might know but the real person who can play his part is an EYE WITNESS and It is not likely that an eyewitness who actually saw the killer also know that he is the member of which organization so that is why FIR is launched against unknown person because of IDENTIFICATION PROBLEM....
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If you are launching an FIR then you need to be very sure about the element which could be involved or otherwise some innocent might get caught due to all this or investigation's angle also changed so that is why to keep the angle of investigation on the right track the FIR is launched against Unknown person.....Organization might know but the real person who can play his part is an EYE WITNESS and It is not likely that an eyewitness who actually saw the killer also know that he is the member of which organization so that is why FIR is launched against unknown person because of IDENTIFICATION PROBLEM....

FIR is your account of the event
Give your account who do suspect of the killing and let the investigating officer rule them out not other way round.
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)
If you are launching an FIR then you need to be very sure about the element which could be involved or otherwise some innocent might get caught due to all this or investigation's angle also changed so that is why to keep the angle of investigation on the right track the FIR is launched against Unknown person.....Organization might know but the real person who can play his part is an EYE WITNESS and It is not likely that an eyewitness who actually saw the killer also know that he is the member of which organization so that is why FIR is launched against unknown person because of IDENTIFICATION PROBLEM....

And yet you people have assumed the killer must be non-muhajir......he could be sunni...he could be an agent.....the crimminal entity took law in its hand killed innocent people....this entity has been doing this for a very long time...this entity is lucky (unfortunately for the rest of Pakistan) Pakistan Army is busy with other traitors at large...the crimminal entity is MQM
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
معذرت کے ساتھ، مگر آپ بہت تعصبانی عینک سے حالات کو دیکھ رہے ہیں اس لیے آپ کو متحدہ کا مؤقف نظر نہیں آتا۔

رضا حیدر صاحب کی شہادت کے مقابلے میں اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم کے آفس میں فائرنگ کرنے والے اے این پی کے کارکنوں کو باقاعدہ طور پر علاقے کے لوگوں نے اچھی طرح پہچان لیا اور اسکی ایف آئی آر درج کروائی۔

اس سے قبل ایم کیو ایم نے 150+ افراد کی پوری لسٹ ہر ہر ایجنسی اور حکومت کو مہیا کی ہے جن کی اکثریت اے این پی کے کارکنوں کی ہے۔

مگر یہ سب کچھ آپ کو کیوں نظر آئے گا۔

آپ کو تو یہ بھی نظر نہیں آ رہا کہ ایم کیو ایم کے تمام آفیشلز بشمول الطاف حسین کل رات سے ہی ٹی وی پر اور ہر ہر جگہ عوام کو پرسکون رہنے کی ہدایات کر رہے ہیں۔

اگر آپ واقعی کہتے ہیں کہ تحریک انصاف پڑھی لکھی جماعت ہے، تو پھر آپ کو اپنا برتاؤ بھی انصاف کے تقاضوں کے مطابق رکھنا چاہیے۔

جیوری بھائی نے یہاں صاف صاف ویڈیوز پیش کی تھیں جہاں پولیس نے اے این پی کے لیڈروں کو باقاعدہ طور پر گرفتار کیا ہوا ہے۔ افسوس کہ وہ بھی آپ کو نظر نہیں آئیں۔

جب نفرتیں پھیلتی ہیں تو گیہوں کے ساتھ ساتھ گھن بھی پس رہا ہوتا ہے۔

قائد اعظم نے کبھی پاکستانی مسلمانوں کو نہیں کہا تھا کہ وہ ہجرت کرنے والے ہندؤوں کو لوٹیں اور قتل کریں۔ مگر عوام کبھی لیڈران کی بات نہیں سن رہی ہوتی ہے بلکہ اندھی ہوئی ہوتی ہے۔ آپ ہر چیز کا الزام اب ایم کیو ایم پر رکھنا نہ شروع کر دیں بلکہ ہر بات میرٹ پر کریں۔ شکریہ۔


..............Why are you "beating about about bushes", come to the point and discuss the title of the Thread. Why are you telling me what was happened before the the killing of Mr Raza Haider or why Shahi Sayed was Threating in Press conference?.

If you have eyes and brain and if you can use it then just read the Title of the thread, where I am asking that since the day of this particular Murder every MQM worker on TVs and even on this forum were blaming ANP and Shahi Sayyed (President ANP Sindh), why FIR was not registered against ANP or Sahi Sayed?

..........Who are these "Unknowns"?

..........Please tell us about these "Unknowns"

..........Why MQM are killing innocent peoples?

..........Why MQM doesn't want the Help of Police (when MQM itself is in govt.)?

..........Why these "Unknowns" only kill MQM supporters?

..........Why MQM is doing politics on these Deaths?

>>>>>>>>>It means that MQM even doesn't want to unconver the faces of these "Unknowns". If MQM has really any honour for his wokers, it should stop killing innocent and burning Public cars & buses and shoud register FIR with names and not about uknowns

And as you said that Mr Altaf and other MQM officials are contineusly appealing to his workere to stop voilence but there is still voilence in the city. Why workers are not obeying Altaf and the rest?

..........Is it really a sincere appeaple by Altaf? I don't think so.

Note: Again, please stick to the title of the thread.
 

nasir212

Voter (50+ posts)
The reason might be because EYE WITNESS CANT BE SURE WHOM THE KILLER WAS ASSOCIATED WITH....That is why FIR wasnt launched against ANP...ANP is a SUSPECT in this event not actually framed...I think that must clear the misconception....

I agree with you brother...
Very well said
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
And yet you people have assumed the killer must be non-muhajir......he could be sunni...he could be an agent.....the crimminal entity took law in its hand killed innocent people....this entity has been doing this for a very long time...this entity is lucky (unfortunately for the rest of Pakistan) Pakistan Army is busy with other traitors at large...the crimminal entity is MQM
Sunni Shia or non Mahajir can be identified by analyzing death threats against him as claimed by Rehman Malik he had death threat from banned Sectarian organization(Sunni of course because Raza Haider was himself Shia)...Another thing is that his property in Orangi town was also forcefully taken by Land mafia operating in that area....Another thing is that most sectarian outfits and Taliban commanders are arrested from ANP area and most especially from Orangi town ANP areas so their are more then enough Information available in all majo findings but the real information is that KILLER BELONG TO WHICH ORGANIZATION and that is where Eye witness's role comes out and even an eye witness can also identify the ethnicity in case of Urdu speaker or Pakhtun due to visible differences but cant identify the organization or outfit which the killer represent....
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
My friend please remove the blind fold from your face and start looking at things as they are. I must agree that you have vivid imaginations. You are imagining things that are not even there. All this is your figment of imagination. In psychology your state of mind is called projection, please look it up and do some soul searching. For your convenience I am posting the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Mehwish Ali, as always, has explained it very politely and decently and in fair detal. Please read it and try to come to some informed conclusions. Thankyou!

............I think you need such Pscychological treatment. It would be better for you to answer the thread and not advicing me of any treatement, which in my openion you need more.

...........It is not only your fault, it is the fault of every workers of MQM are always try to divert the discussion to a non-serious issue and always present confusing videos. I think they have been taught in this way.

...........Why are you rellying on Miss Mehwish, you don't have eye and brain and answer my question. If means MQM doesn't want to answer such question which can expose them.
 
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YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
............I think you need such Pscychological treatment. It would be better for you to answer the thread and not advicing me of any treatement, which in my openion you need more.

...........It is not only fault, it is the fault of every workers of MQM are always try to divert the discussion to a non-serious issue and always present confusing videos. I think they have been taught in this way.

...........Why are you rellying on Miss Mehwish, you don't have eye and brain and answer my question. If means MQM doesn't want to answer such question which can expose them.

their are two members who have tried to answer now its up to you to actually consider it or denial...If you consider then counter argument the post...
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
The reason might be because EYE WITNESS CANT BE SURE WHOM THE KILLER WAS ASSOCIATED WITH....That is why FIR wasnt launched against ANP...ANP is a SUSPECT in this event not actually framed...I think that must clear the misconception....

..............If there was no Eye Witness then why every MQM leader and worker was blaming Shahi Sayyed and ANP?

..............It was same like 9/11, when the Twin Towers were even intact and US had started blams on Al-Quida and Osama and couldn't provide any proof till yet or it is Zardari, who says that he knows the Murderer of Benazir and doesn't want to name. Both US and Zardari are responsible for these doings. You know what do I mean Mr Yahya?


............It means that MQM is just needing Media and Zardarr's attraction. If you blame someone then you should stick with it. Sharam Tu nahi aati.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
..............If there was no Eye Witness then why every MQM leader and worker was blaming Shahi Sayyed and ANP?

..............It was same like 9/11, when the Twin Towers were even intact and US had started blams on Al-Quida and Osama and couldn't provide any proof till yet or it is Zardari, who says that he knows the Murderer of Benazir and doesn't want to name. Both US and Zardari are responsible for these doings. You know what do I mean Mr Yahya?


............It means that MQM is just needing Media and Zardarr's attraction. If you blame someone then you should stick with it. Sharam Tu nahi aati.
The reason for blaming Shahi Syed is his press conference in 24July 2010 where he openly threatened MQM by saying that Pashtun dont forget his revenge and weapons are jewelry of Pashtun and blah blah blah about Pashtun and blah blahg blah about MQM....So this is the reason why MQM is suspecting Shahi Syed and another factor is that most members from those banned outfits and Taliban have been arrested in Karachi in ANP areas of Orangi town(Raza Hyder's constituency) and also because Raza Haider's own house was grabbed by Land mafia under ANP flag....Is that clear now????
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
their are two members who have tried to answer now its up to you to actually consider it or denial...If you consider then counter argument the post...

..............I don't think I am blind or have no brain (like MQM supporters), who answered my question to the points? They are just beating about the bushes. It is just like when a person is ask that who is the president of USA and the reply would Nilson Mendela because he is also black. Would you give him any marks?

............... If you mean that the preveous Replies were its answer, then 95 % of the members would declare it as wrong.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
The reason for blaming Shahi Syed is his press conference in 24July 2010 where he openly threatened MQM by saying that Pashtun dont forget his revenge and weapons are jewelry of Pashtun and blah blah blah about Pashtun and blah blahg blah about MQM....So this is the reason why MQM is suspecting Shahi Syed and another factor is that most members from those banned outfits and Taliban have been arrested in Karachi in ANP areas of Orangi town(Raza Hyder's constituency) and also because Raza Haider's own house was grabbed by Land mafia under ANP flag....Is that clear now????

...................HAHAHa again, wast of time. My question was that if you consider him as suspect then why you didn't mentione his name or any other ANP worker?
 
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