What Else You Want To Open Your Eyes ?

[Ammad Hafeez]

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[greywolf]

a hot steaming cup of coffee ... one sugar and two lumps of cream ... and hurry up with that.

 

[hassam]

So what is your point? He was a human being and every human is bound to make mistakes. People perception is based on the knowledge at their hand and can not know what Allah has in His plans.

 

[LeftBrain]

Modoodi's political struggle and ideology was as flawed and corrupted and negative that on the surface of it, you cant tell any difference between jamat-e-Islmai and Vishwa Hindu Pareshad.....

No wonder why Ameen Ahsan Islahi and Irshad Ahmed haqqani and other scholars left him as early as in 1956....

As far as his religious credibility is concerned, I am not qualified to comment on it, but I know What Hazrat Yousuf Ludhianvi wrote about "MODOODIAT" in his great book "Ikhtilaaf-e-Ummat or Sirat-e-Mustaqeem" and termed him and his ideology as a seperate sect from Islam and Muslims.

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

a hot steaming cup of coffee ... one sugar and two lumps of cream ... and hurry up with that.

LOL @ your foolish Comment :D

 

[greywolf]

you are stupid ... you asked in the title of the thread as to what we want to open our eyes ... ? did not you ?

I ordered you coffee ... now get it for me, pronto ! thats what you are fit for.

 

[sarbakaf]

oh yar
are to trying to say Altaf hussain has same metal capability as molana moudaddi ?



you must be kiddin ..right...

Alftaf hussain has neither knowledge, not saleeka and tareeqa........
Molana was probably talking from his foresightness ..........but altaf only talks from his blindness and stupidity ...........

by quoting statement of molana you have made altaf look more jahil.....................

 

[greywolf]

^don't you wanna order something that might open your eyes ? it looks you are sleepy with a very zaroori kaam sarbakaf ?

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

oh yar
are to trying to say Altaf hussain has same metal capability as molana moudaddi ?



you must be kiddin ..right...

Alftaf hussain has neither knowledge, not saleeka and tareeqa........
Molana was probably talking from his foresightness ..........but altaf only talks from his blindness and stupidity ...........

by quoting statement of molana you have made altaf look more jahil.....................

Ohho, Bhai saab Mr. Altaf hussain and his Family scarified for the Pakistan and they raised the Slogan of freedom of Pakistan..! while Moulana saab strongly against the pakistan..

 

[Waseem]

dear Ammar we can't trust on this image. Please provide a valid source, otherwise we have to delete it.

Regards

 

[Lucky4u]

Ohho, Bhai saab Mr. Altaf hussain and his Family scarified for the Pakistan and they raised the Slogan of freedom of Pakistan..! while Moulana saab strongly against the pakistan..

Just a simple question for you Bro!!! Without differing with you, What if I ask you for any reference?? Well, the references that you provided says,, ''Tarjuman ul Quran, page number .... 1948''.
Is this what you call a reference??? I don't think this is what we call a reference.....
Do you have any idea for how many months Tarjuman ul Quran was published in 1948???
-Peace

 

[GeoG]

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Many will question the authenticity of the above
but who will question the Baigharti of the traitor pictured below:

 

[MEVET]

i am so surprised to know that there are still few ignorant that dont believe that MAODOODI , he has taken all ideas from Syed Qutub who was founder of IKHWAN movement in EGYPT keep in mind AL=QAIDA No.2 AL ZAWAHIRI id also member of IKHWAN..they dont believe on dialog they only want to impose there own idea of ISLAM on every one in the world...MAODOODI was the first person who apposed war in KASHMIR and given fatwa that who ever will say JANAZA prayer of SHUHDAAY KASHMIR will be no more muslim and if some want proof i have lot many proofs...

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

Just a simple question for you Bro!!! Without differing with you, What if I ask you for any reference?? Well, the references that you provided says,, ''Tarjuman ul Quran, page number .... 1948''.
Is this what you call a reference??? I don't think this is what we call a reference.....
Do you have any idea for how many months Tarjuman ul Quran was published in 1948???
-Peace

Mr Abdul Majeed Jaffrey (March 1) appears to be a member of the younger generation, who lacks full awareness about the role of different leaders and parties during the freedom struggle for Pakistan. I, therefore, feel compelled to put the record straight for the benefit of my countrymen.

Maulana Maudoodi always openly opposed the Quaid-i-Azam and the Muslim League during the freedom struggle, calling the Muslim League leadership lesser Muslims, who did not live up to the Maulana's standards.

He opposed the creation of Pakistan as a separate state for the Muslims of the subcontinent, and when Pakistan was created, he advised his party members in government service not to swear allegiance to the state.

For this he was tried by a competent court, which found him guilty of treason and sentenced him to death. The death sentence was later commuted at the request of the Saudi monarchy.

Anyone interested in reading Maudoodi's statements may refer to the Jamaat-i-Islami's publications Musalman aur Maujoohdah Siyasi Kashmakash (vol. 3), Tehreek-i-Azadi-i-Hind aur Musalman, and the June 1948 and July 1948 issues of Tarjuman-ul-Quran.

I would only like to quote an extract from the April 1954 judicial inquiry tribunal report of the apex court bench consisting of Mr Justice Mohammad Munir and Mr Justice M. R. Kiyani in support of the above:

"Jamaat-i-Islami was a declared opponent of Muslim League's ideology of Pakistan, and ever since Pakistan came into existence, it is referred to as "Na-Pak-istan" by them.

This party is always opposing the present form of government and its functionaries. The literature of Jamaat presented before us does not include a single document which even remotely points towards the support of the demand for Pakistan. On the contrary, these documents, which include many hypothetical situations, totally oppose the manner in which Pakistan came into being, and as it exists today".

 

[greywolf]

at least, one thing that this document says is true ... it is mentioned in the last number of second column ...

mohajir woh bhagoray hain jinhon ne qoamiyyat ki jang lari ... (so they are right, they did not come to Pakistan for Islam but for qoamiyyat) aur jab saza bhugatne ki baari ayee to raah lekar chal pare (so they have been like that from the beginning, always evading their responsibilities).

 

[Lucky4u]

at least, one thing that this document says is true ... it is mentioned in the last number of second column ...

mohajir woh bhagoray hain jinhon ne qoamiyyat ki jang lari ... (so they are right, they did not come to Pakistan for Islam but for qoamiyyat) aur jab saza bhugatne ki baari ayee to raah lekar chal pare (so they have been like that from the beginning, always evading their responsibilities).

Dear, Could you please some times discuss the actual topic???? No one is interested in your views on MQM or its supporters,,,,,,, we are discussing that what is the credibility of this document and if you can't take part in that, please just take your MQM fight to your personal messages. Sorry if it sounds a bit rude.
-Peace

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

at least, one thing that this document says is true ... it is mentioned in the last number of second column ...

mohajir woh bhagoray hain jinhon ne qoamiyyat ki jang lari ... (so they are right, they did not come to Pakistan for Islam but for qoamiyyat) aur jab saza bhugatne ki baari ayee to raah lekar chal pare (so they have been like that from the beginning, always evading their responsibilities).

Calm down..Bhai saab, bhagorey Muhajir hotey toh Pakistan nai hota Aap jese aayyaash se hi hum ne Bangladesh khoo diya ap logon ne un k saath bhi behramana sulook kiya Jbhi.. Aur baatain bana ne dedo jitna Muhajiron ne Pakistan k liye apni jaano k nazrana diya hai utna ks ne diya yeh toh bata do batole baaz :D

 

[Lucky4u]

Mr Abdul Majeed Jaffrey (March 1) appears to be a member of the younger generation, who lacks full awareness about the role of different leaders and parties during the freedom struggle for Pakistan. I, therefore, feel compelled to put the record straight for the benefit of my countrymen.

Maulana Maudoodi always openly opposed the Quaid-i-Azam and the Muslim League during the freedom struggle, calling the Muslim League leadership lesser Muslims, who did not live up to the Maulana's standards.

He opposed the creation of Pakistan as a separate state for the Muslims of the subcontinent, and when Pakistan was created, he advised his party members in government service not to swear allegiance to the state.

For this he was tried by a competent court, which found him guilty of treason and sentenced him to death. The death sentence was later commuted at the request of the Saudi monarchy.

Anyone interested in reading Maudoodi's statements may refer to the Jamaat-i-Islami's publications Musalman aur Maujoohdah Siyasi Kashmakash (vol. 3), Tehreek-i-Azadi-i-Hind aur Musalman, and the June 1948 and July 1948 issues of Tarjuman-ul-Quran.

I would only like to quote an extract from the April 1954 judicial inquiry tribunal report of the apex court bench consisting of Mr Justice Mohammad Munir and Mr Justice M. R. Kiyani in support of the above:

"Jamaat-i-Islami was a declared opponent of Muslim League's ideology of Pakistan, and ever since Pakistan came into existence, it is referred to as "Na-Pak-istan" by them.

This party is always opposing the present form of government and its functionaries. The literature of Jamaat presented before us does not include a single document which even remotely points towards the support of the demand for Pakistan. On the contrary, these documents, which include many hypothetical situations, totally oppose the manner in which Pakistan came into being, and as it exists today".

My Dear,
First let me make it clear to you that there is no such thing in the books you mentioned above and if you need I can arrange a soft copy of ''Musalman aur Maujoohdah siyasi kashmakash'',,, BUT I don't promise...... Funny part of the story is that you are giving me a reference which is basically a letter to editor of DAWN from Tariq Nazir of Karachi...... Again, is this a reference?????

 

[greywolf]

It is the undeniable proof that you presented here says it ... no need to wag your tail at me.

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

My Dear,
First let me make it clear to you that there is no such thing in the books you mentioned above and if you need I can arrange a soft copy of ''Musalman aur Maujoohdah siyasi kashmakash'',,, BUT I don't promise...... Funny part of the story is that you are giving me a reference which is basically a letter to editor of DAWN from Tariq Nazir of Karachi...... Again, is this a reference?????

No bro, Its not the reference i quoted the letter of Editor