What does Hadeeth mean according to the Qur'an?

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[karachiwala]

first give us the source of your Quran then come and ask questions

 

[Citizen X]

first give us the source of your Quran then come and ask questions

Question : What is 2 + 2?
Answer : Purple

 

[Wake up Pak]

I just watched a few minutes of the video, and I agree with what he has said so far, but Munkar Quran won't understand it.

 

[Citizen X]

 

[Citizen X]

 

[Citizen X]

 

[Wake up Pak]

I have watched quite a few of his videos, and he seems to be quite knowledgeable about the ahadith and the Quran. At one time, he was a staunch supporter of ahadith, but he realized that the Quran is the only criterion for humanity's salvation.

 

[Wake up Pak]

2:2 This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah

 

[karachiwala]

my question was source of Quran and you started joking. who gave Quran to the Ummah? did the Prophet SAW left it in BOOK FORM?

 

[karachiwala]

2:2 This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah

you do understand I asked for the source?
why are you scared of mentioning Sahaba as the source of Quran?
Is it because you are basically refuting Sahaba on Hadeeth but taking Quran from them as without fault?

 

[Wake up Pak]

you do understand I asked for the source?
why are you scared of mentioning Sahaba as the source of Quran?
Is it because you are basically refuting Sahaba on Hadeeth but taking Quran from them as without fault?

Source of what?

 

[karachiwala]

Source of what?

well I am not talking about Dastaan-e-Amir Hamza am I?

 

[Citizen X]

you do understand I asked for the source?

Irrelevant question to this discussion, if you want, open a new thread on the subject. I will gladly oblige you there.

FYI in a nutshell. The source was Prophet Muhammad, and he made sure it was written and complied in his lifetime and under his supervision. Look up The Birmingham Manuscript. A few pages preserved of the Quran in the form of a book carbon dated to the period of the Prophet. So yes the Quran was complied and put together in the shape of a book in his lifetime and his supervision. A not a collection written on date palms, leather skins and animal bone as you are led to believe by the hadeeth.

And the Quran numerous times itself refers to itself as a book, For example. Zalik al kitabu la raiba fi ha .
And this is going to be the LAST post on the "source" in this thread, if you want more, feel free to start another thread.

 

[Citizen X]

At one time, he was a staunch supporter of ahadith,

Well aren't we all? Including myself.

 

[karachiwala]

Irrelevant question to this discussion, if you want, open a new thread on the subject. I will gladly oblige you there.

FYI in a nutshell. The source was Prophet Muhammad, and he made sure it was written and complied in his lifetime and under his supervision. Look up The Birmingham Manuscript. A few pages preserved of the Quran in the form of a book carbon dated to the period of the Prophet. So yes the Quran was complied and put together in the shape of a book in his lifetime and his supervision. A not a collection written on date palms, leather skins and animal bone as you are led to believe by the hadeeth.

And the Quran numerous times itself refers to itself as a book, For example. Zalik al kitabu la raiba fi ha .
And this is going to be the LAST post on the "source" in this thread, if you want more, feel free to start another thread.

the argument is that Book of Allah is infallible which every Muslim believes and this book was handed to us by Sahaba. Holy Prophet SAW did not leave it in book form. we believe Sahaba to be honest in matters of Quran than why do we not trust them in matter of Hadeeth?

 

[karachiwala]

Wake up Pak I am a staunch believer of Hadeeth!

 

[Citizen X]

the argument is that Book of Allah is infallible which every Muslim believes and this book was handed to us by Sahaba.

This is what you believe, which goes against the Quran itself as I mentioned in my previous post, We even have physical proof of that the Quran existed in his period, ( Birmingham manuscripts ) also mentioned earlier. Just your belief doesn't amount to anything, nor is a valid argument.

 

[Citizen X]

Wake up Pak I am a staunch believer of Hadeeth!

I believe in the hadith too and quite possibly have read more of it than you have And I urge everyone to read it too. I believe in the hadith as a historical record, nothing more or nothing less. And like all historical records I don't worship it, don't obey it, I don't follow it or take any deen from it. Because it doesn't have any.

 

[Citizen X]

Oh sorry forgot to address the latter part of your question.

Holy Prophet SAW did not leave it in book form.

That's where you are wrong. AS I pointed out in my previous two to three posts.

we believe Sahaba to be honest in matters of Quran

No one doubts there honesty and sincerity

than why do we not trust them in matter of Hadeeth?

How many collections of hadith did the Sahaba write in their lifetime? How many hadith attributed to his closet Sahabi Abu Bakar and Umar?