Thread Deleted......Daily Jasarat Idaria......Why????

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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مدارس پر پابندی کا امریکی منصوبہ

Started by Za Chaudhry, Yesterday 06:26 PM

Thread deleted by Saeed
Reason Just false information. please avoid Jasarat
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http://jasarat.com/index.php?page=03&date=2014-03-25
 
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Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Chaudhary saheb, kia aap waqei Ummat, Jasarat, Nada-e-Millat jaisay "magazines" ko reliable source samjhtay haen ??

en ki "political" journalism quality bhi CNN/Fox News/BBC jaisee hee hay.


Kia aap nay kabhi CCN/Fox News ka koi link daikhha hay Siasat.pk per??
(hmm)(hmm)
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Chaudhary saheb, kia aap waqei Ummat, Jasarat, Nada-e-Millat jaisay "magazines" ko reliable source samjhtay haen ??

en ki "political" journalism quality bhi CNN/Fox News/BBC jaisee hee hay.


Kia aap nay kabhi CCN/Fox News ka koi link daikhha hay Siasat.pk per??
(hmm)(hmm)
If it is not credible according to your saying than it should not have been deleted and should have been argued upon and proven baseless .

Generally Shanzeh of USA digital outreach team also respond to such threads and present her viewpoint.Had this news been baseless she should have cleared it????????
 

Imran Siddiqi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Washington Post ke article chaapa karo woh Bilkul Such likhtay hain. Harf ba harf such hota hai. Aur ooper say Pakistan Media allocated fund (60 Million Dollar) mein share cut honay ka dar bhi naheen hota..
Samja Qaroooo Bhai Mian
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ان سعید صاحب سے میں نے ایک دفعہ کہا کہ کشمیر پر ایک سٹکی تھریڈ بنا دو ، ان صاحب نے وعدہ کیا یکن یاد دہانی کے باوجود نہیں بنایا ، اگر جسارت سچی خبر نہیں لگاتا تو یہ بتائیں اس ملک میں کون سچی صحافت کر رہا ہے ، ایم کیو ایم کے سامنے ان سب اخباروں اور چینلز کی کراچی میں آواز نہیں نکلتی ، غصہ جسارت پر
 
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sadani

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is absolutely non-sense reason by Admin that "Jasarat Artciles are baseless and fake".

I mean people can post columns of Ata-Ul-Haq Qasimi , Irfan Siddiqui etc (who we know is a paid agent of Nawaz Shareef )
People can post media anchors programs to whom we know are yellow journalists ,
People can post news from worldwide tabloids but JASARAT is termed as FAKE newspaper :-/

Absolutely strange and that shows nothing but admin biasness towards one political party or ideology.

Yes weknow Jasarat represents one school of thought, primarily Jamat-e-Islami but who else does not represent their political or ideological point of view ???

Express Tribune is under heavy influence of DESI - LIBERAL , Geo news network including Jang group takes funding from USA and we all know that , they also do funded programs and campaign for SAFMA ( Aman ki Asha ) , Nawai-e-Waqt has been supported by PML , similarly Daily aman has been vocal in favor of MQM...

I mean this is a forum where every one CAN and every should post his point of view ( keeping few rules in mind like no sectarianism , no religious offence , no ethnic offence ) but as far as this judgement is concerned that Jasart artcile should be banned as they are fake is hilarious and condemnation act by Admins.

Jasarat has been accepted as credible newspaper by Pakistan Newspaper and Media organizations and not even governments of PPP and PML-N banned it for any fake article , so banning by siasat.pk is just awkward....


Admin may have their own biasness towards any party or ideology but they should not be a party in discussions.

People should be allowed to post from any newspaper which is published inside pakistan.

I am a big critique of Ummat newspaper but anyhow i am also not against their articles as it is against freedom of expression , if its a propaganda or not , leave it to Pakistan Government , Admins are not in PEMRA :)
 
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Imran Siddiqi

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is absolutely non-sense reason by Admin that "Jasarat Artciles are baseless and fake".

I mean people can post columns of Ata-Ul-Haq Qasimi , Irfan Siddiqui etc (who we know is a paid agent of Nawaz Shareef )
People can post media anchors programs to whom we know are yellow journalists ,
People can post news from worldwide tabloids but JASARAT is termed as FAKE newspaper :-/

Absolutely strange and that shows nothing but admin biasness towards one political party or ideology.

Yes weknow Jasarat represents one school of thought, primarily Jamat-e-Islami but who else does not represent their political or ideological point of view ???

Express Tribune is under heavy influence of DESI - LIBERAL , Geo news network including Jang group takes funding from USA and we all know that , they also do funded programs and campaign for SAFMA ( Aman ki Asha ) , Nawai-e-Waqt has been supported by PML , similarly Daily aman has been vocal in favor of MQM...

I mean this is a forum where every one CAN and every should post his point of view ( keeping few rules in mind like no sectarianism , no religious offence , no ethnic offence ) but as far as this judgement is concerned that Jasart artcile should be banned as they are fake is hilarious and condemnation act by Admins.

Jasarat has been accepted as credible newspaper by Pakistan Newspaper and Media organizations and not even governments of PPP and PML-N banned it for any fake article , so banning by siasat.pk is just awkward....


Admin may have their own biasness towards any party or ideology but they should not be a party in discussions.

People should be allowed to post from any newspaper which is published inside pakistan.

I am a big critique of Ummat newspaper but anyhow i am also not against their articles as it is against freedom of expression , if its a propaganda or not , leave it to Pakistan Government , Admins are not in PEMRA :)

Bhai sahab farq ko samjheeay

siasat.pk admin
VS
Siasat pee kay admin

Admin admin Hota hai chahay .........
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is absolutely non-sense reason by Admin that "Jasarat Artciles are baseless and fake".

I mean people can post columns of Ata-Ul-Haq Qasimi , Irfan Siddiqui etc (who we know is a paid agent of Nawaz Shareef )
People can post media anchors programs to whom we know are yellow journalists ,
People can post news from worldwide tabloids but JASARAT is termed as FAKE newspaper :-/

Absolutely strange and that shows nothing but admin biasness towards one political party or ideology.

Yes weknow Jasarat represents one school of thought, primarily Jamat-e-Islami but who else does not represent their political or ideological point of view ???

Express Tribune is under heavy influence of DESI - LIBERAL , Geo news network including Jang group takes funding from USA and we all know that , they also do funded programs and campaign for SAFMA ( Aman ki Asha ) , Nawai-e-Waqt has been supported by PML , similarly Daily aman has been vocal in favor of MQM...

I mean this is a forum where every one CAN and every should post his point of view ( keeping few rules in mind like no sectarianism , no religious offence , no ethnic offence ) but as far as this judgement is concerned that Jasart artcile should be banned as they are fake is hilarious and condemnation act by Admins.

Jasarat has been accepted as credible newspaper by Pakistan Newspaper and Media organizations and not even governments of PPP and PML-N banned it for any fake article , so banning by siasat.pk is just awkward....


Admin may have their own biasness towards any party or ideology but they should not be a party in discussions.

People should be allowed to post from any newspaper which is published inside pakistan.

I am a big critique of Ummat newspaper but anyhow i am also not against their articles as it is against freedom of expression , if its a propaganda or not , leave it to Pakistan Government , Admins are not in PEMRA :)

The views of Ummat or Jasarat may not make sense and may not be great examples or objective and professional journalism but in Pakistan there are not many news organizations that would fit that category. Plus we can disagree with their point of view but they have every right to express their opinions as anyone else.
 

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If it is not credible according to your saying than it should not have been deleted and should have been argued upon and proven baseless .
Yes, this is a valid point.
IMHO, Admins must "atleast once" clarify the policy about media resources, there should be a White list, Grey list and Black list of known media/news sources.
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Chaudhary saheb, kia aap waqei Ummat, Jasarat, Nada-e-Millat jaisay "magazines" ko reliable source samjhtay haen ??

en ki "political" journalism quality bhi CNN/Fox News/BBC jaisee hee hay.

Kia aap nay kabhi CCN/Fox News ka koi link daikhha hay Siasat.pk per??
(hmm)(hmm)


Un ke link ko dekh ker main kia kerooo!!!!!!!!
Jasart is one of the reliable newspaper of this country....Jasarat Kuchara sahafat nahi kerta......ummat jamaat ka nahi hai, Just Salauddin was former Editor of Jasarat then he resigned.
 

Shah Brahman

Senator (1k+ posts)
ملا کی اسلام پراجارہ داری صرف خود دین کی تعلیم حاصل کر کے ہی ختم کی جاسکتی
ہے



اس کیلئے فقہ کی تعلیم کو انٹر تک لازمی کر دینا چاہئے اور تمام مدرسوں پر پابندی لگا دینی چاہئے



مساجد اور مدرسوں میں صرف حفظ قران کی اجازت ہو اور اگر کسی نے مزید فقہ کی تعلیم حاصل کرنی ہے تو وہ باقی علوم کی طرح یونیورسٹیوں میں ہو



یونیورسٹی کا فقہ نصاب تمام فقہوں کی تعلیم پر ہو اور فقہ کی ڈگری حاصل کرنے کیلئے تمام فقوں کا علم حاصل کرنا لازمی ہو

کسی ایک فقہ میں سپیشلائزیشن تعلیم صرف پی ایچ ڈی لیول پر ہو



صرف اسی شخص کو مستند عالم مانا جائے جس کے پاس پی ایچ ڈی لیول کی فقہ کی ڈگری ہو



کسی بھی فقی رائے کو محض رائے سمجھا جائے اور نفاذ صرف اور صرف حاکم کی تبنی پر ہو


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اگر کوئی فرد بغیر کسی شرعی اختیار کے اپنی رائے کے نفاذ پر اصرار کرے تو اسکو سخت سزا دی جائے



انفرادی/عبادت کے معاملات پر ہرگز تبنی نا ہو اور نا ہی اسکی اجازت دی جائے .



اگر حاکم بھی انفرادی /عبادات کے معاملات میں تبنی کرے تو اس کی ہر طرح سے مزاحمت اور مخالفت کی جائے



صرف اجتماعی معاملات میں تبنی کی اجازت ہو اور اسکا نفاذ ہو



کسی بھی رائے کی تبنی کو حرف آخر نا سمجھا جائے اور تبنی میں تبدیلی کو قران و سنت کی خلاف ورزی ہرگز نا سمجھا جائے



اگر پاکستان میں یہ سب کر دیا جائے تو تمام ملاؤں اور ان کی فرسودہ غیر اسلامی ملائیت سے چھٹکارہ مل جائے گا



تبنی =Adoption
برہمن

 
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Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
es maqsad kay liye Islamic International University Islamabad jaisee "replica" universities honi chahiyen har division mein (in all 27 divisions of Pakistan), with full funding (zero fees).



  • ملا کی اسلام پراجارہ داری صرف خود دین کی تعلیم حاصل کر کے ہی ختم کی جاسکتی ہے
  • اس کیلئے فقہ کی تعلیم کو انٹر تک لازمی کر دینا چاہئے اور تمام مدرسوں پر پابندی لگا دینی چاہئے
  • مساجد اور مدرسوں میں صرف حفظ قران کی اجازت ہو اور اگر کسی نے مزید فقہ کی تعلیم حاصل کرنی ہے تو وہ باقی علوم کی طرح یونیورسٹیوں میں ہو
  • یونیورسٹی کا فقہ نصاب تمام فقہوں کی تعلیم پر ہو اور فقہ کی ڈگری حاصل کرنے کیلئے تمام فقوں کا علم حاصل کرنا لازمی ہو اور اگر کسی ایک فقہ میں سپیشلائزیشن تعلیم صرف پی ایچ ڈی لیول پر ہو
  • صرف اسی شخص کو مستند عالم مانا جائے جس کے پاس پی ایچ ڈی لیول کی فقہ کی ڈگری ہو
  • کسی بھی فقی رائے کو محض رائے سمجھا جائے اور نفاذ صرف اور صرف حاکم کی تبنی پر ہو
  • . اگر کوئی فرد بغیر کسی شرعی اختیار کے اپنی رائے کے نفاذ پر اصرار کرے تو اسکو سخت سزا دی جائے
  • انفرادی/عبادت کے معاملات پر ہرگز تبنی نا ہو اور نا ہی اسکی اجازت دی جائے .
  • اگر حاکم بھی انفرادی /عبادات کے معاملات میں تبنی کرے تو اس کی ہر طرح سے مزاحمت اور مخالفت کی جائے
  • صرف اجتماعی معاملات میں تبنی کی اجازت ہو اور اسکا نفاذ ہو
  • کسی بھی رائے کی تبنی کو حرف آخر نا سمجھا جائے اور تبنی میں تبدیلی کو قران و سنت کی خلاف ورزی ہرگز نا سمجھا جائے

  • اگر پاکستان میں یہ سب کر دیا جائے تو تمام ملاؤں اور ان کی فرسودہ غیر اسلامی ملائیت سے چھٹکارہ مل جائے گا

برہمن
 

Shah Brahman

Senator (1k+ posts)

جناب امیر البحر صاحب

. سکولوں اور کالجوں میں موجودہ اسلامیات کے نصاب کو صحیح کر کے اور موجود یونیورسٹیوں میں ہی فقہ کی ڈگری کلاسوں شروع کر کے اس کو آسانی سے حاصل کیا جاسکتا ہے کسی نئی مخصوس یونیورسٹی کا کھولنا ، مدرسوں کے موجودہ نظام کو تقویت دینے والی بات ہو گی

برہمن
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
This thread should not have been deleted.
Let us make it a STANDARD that anything which is not according to my understanding is not reliable source.?

Jang Newspaper is a reliable SOURCE? When they do not publish the names of certain group of people.

Jasarat is a newpaper of Pakistan is published by a permit and has its significant circulation.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
In my humble opinion:
Let us define a source link of a news.
Any news item if posted from a source is authentic source, it does not matter what "I" think of that source.

 

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