Nationalism Is Biggest Shirk of Present Time :- Dr Israr Ahmad

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umer

Minister (2k+ posts)
He had knowledge and he was good but not that we will have to agree on everything . He had his views n we have ours.
 
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atensari

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ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد پر بھڑاس نکالنے والے دراصل فرید پراچہ کی طرح علامہ اقبال سے بغض میں مبتلا ہیں​
 
hans

hans

Banned
Yah u are so correct.....

like your heart stamped with love of Taliban.

Sir Jeee... what we see in Pakistan is due to such crazy mullah.

wadaich said:
Dr. Sahib's lecture are for people who are open to learn and mend their ways.....not for those whose hearts are "STAMPED".
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Slim Mushi

Banned
hans said:
Yah u are so correct.....

like your heart stamped with love of Taliban.

Sir Jeee... what we see in Pakistan is due to such crazy mullah.
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Agree with you. I had great respect for this guy but after this i think he belongs to same Jahil Mullah league.
 
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Mikkix

Minister (2k+ posts)
what about Allam Iqbal,

sare khudayon mai bara sub se watan hai
jo perhan iska hai wo mazhab ka kafan hai.
 
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JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
wadaich said:
Dr. Sahib's lecture are for people who are open to learn and mend their ways.....not for those whose hearts are "STAMPED".
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I refuted Dr's claim on the basis of argument if you can prove nationalism is shirk then i will accept his claim , else if its only mullahz fart nothing more.
 
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Irobot

Senator (1k+ posts)
JusticeLover said:
I refuted Dr's claim on the basis of argument if you can prove nationalism is shirk then i will accept his claim , else if its only mullahz fart nothing more.
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Grouping the Muslims on tribalistic lines is clearly forbidden. It is narrated by Abu Da'wud that the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said,
"He is not one us who calls for `Asabiyyah, (nationalism/tribalism) or who fights for `Asabiyyah or who dies for `Asabiyyah."


On one occasion during the time of the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam), a party of Jews conspired to bring about disunity in the ranks of the Muslims after seeing the Aus and Khazraj harmonious with each other within Islam. A youth from among them was sent to incite remembrance of the battle of Bu'ath, where the Aus had been victorious over the Khazraj. He recited poetry to stir their feelings, remind them of their past differences, and bring about division between them. As a result there was a call to arms. When the news reached the Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) he said, "O Muslims, remember Allah, remember Allah. Will you act as pagans while I am present among you, after Allah has guided you to Islam, and honoured you thereby and made a clean break with paganism; delivered you thereby from disbelief; and made you friends thereby?" When they heard this they wept and embraced each other. [The Roots of Nationalism In The Muslim World]
 
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JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
Irobot said:
Grouping the Muslims on tribalistic lines is clearly forbidden. It is narrated by Abu Da'wud that the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said,
"He is not one us who calls for `Asabiyyah, (nationalism/tribalism) or who fights for `Asabiyyah or who dies for `Asabiyyah."

On one occasion during the time of the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam), a party of Jews conspired to bring about disunity in the ranks of the Muslims after seeing the Aus and Khazraj harmonious with each other within Islam. A youth from among them was sent to incite remembrance of the battle of Bu'ath, where the Aus had been victorious over the Khazraj. He recited poetry to stir their feelings, remind them of their past differences, and bring about division between them. As a result there was a call to arms. When the news reached the Messenger of Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) he said, "O Muslims, remember Allah, remember Allah. Will you act as pagans while I am present among you, after Allah has guided you to Islam, and honoured you thereby and made a clean break with paganism; delivered you thereby from disbelief; and made you friends thereby?" When they heard this they wept and embraced each other. [The Roots of Nationalism In The Muslim World]
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Asabiyyah تعصب means prejudice not nationalism , if we live in pakistan we have to love and serve it we cannot love IRAN or SAUDIA .

In Pakistan many nationalities live many languages are spoken so if GVT does justice with all there must be no question of Asabiyyah.
 
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Irobot

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JusticeLover said:
Asabiyyah تعصب means prejudice not nationalism , if we live in pakistan we have to love and serve it we cannot love IRAN or SAUDIA .

In Pakistan many nationalities live many languages are spoken so if GVT does justice with all there must be no question of Asabiyyah.
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[COLOR=#878787 !important]Web definitions[/COLOR]

  • `Asabiyya or asabiyah refers to social solidarity with an emphasis on unity, group consciousness and sense of shared purpose, and social cohesion, originally in a context of "tribalism" and "clanism". ...




    tribalism
    - behaviour and attitudes that are based on strong loyalty to the tribe .
    - patriarchal system of clans or loyalty to one's clan
    - fanaticism or ardent zeal
    - a person filled with excessive and often misguided enthusiasm for something
    - loyality to a special part
    - the state of being organized into tribes .





    And why can't we love saudia and iran if you believe they are muslims.

    "The faithful are but brothers..." [Qur'an 49: 10]

 
Aladdin

Aladdin

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Veila Mast said:
جناب، اس جھنڈے کی پوجا کرنے والوں کو ڈاکٹر صاحب کو مداح خوان پایا ہے، کیا یہ منافقت نہیں
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اگر جھنڈے کی محبت مذہب سے محبت پر حاوی ہے
 
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