Nationalism Is Biggest Shirk of Present Time :- Dr Israr Ahmad

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
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  • `Asabiyya or asabiyah refers to social solidarity with an emphasis on unity, group consciousness and sense of shared purpose, and social cohesion, originally in a context of "tribalism" and "clanism". ...




    tribalism
    - behaviour and attitudes that are based on strong loyalty to the tribe .
    - patriarchal system of clans or loyalty to one's clan
    - fanaticism or ardent zeal
    - a person filled with excessive and often misguided enthusiasm for something
    - loyality to a special part
    - the state of being organized into tribes .





    And why can't we love saudia and iran if you believe they are muslims.

    "The faithful are but brothers..." [Qur'an 49: 10]


Am talking in about countries and loyalties. Yes you can love saudia and iran but when it comes in competition with Pakistan , then Pakistan comes first.

And yes am proud of loving Pakistan , if you don't you should rethink.
 
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Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
اگر جھنڈے کی محبت مذہب سے محبت پر حاوی ہے

شاید آپ نے ڈاکٹر صاحب کا موقف سامنا نہیں رکھا، انہوں نے "شرک" قرار دیا ہے، اور شرک کی تعریف ویلے سے بہتر آپ جانتے ہیں
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم

شاید آپ نے ڈاکٹر صاحب کا موقف سامنا نہیں رکھا، انہوں نے "شرک" قرار دیا ہے، اور شرک کی تعریف ویلے سے بہتر آپ جانتے ہیں

آپ نے ڈاکٹر صاحب کے موقف کو سمجھا ہی نہیں
 

Irobot

Senator (1k+ posts)
Am talking in about countries and loyalties. Yes you can love saudia and iran but when it comes in competition with Pakistan , then Pakistan comes first.

And yes am proud of loving Pakistan , if you don't you should rethink.

This is where problem starts.
Islam is first not pakistan or saudia or iran.
If every muslim starts to think like that then we dont need individual states, instead one big islamic state under one khalifa having different governers for different reigons.
 

oqaziuet

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
ڈاکٹر صاحب نے وہی بات کی ہے جو علامہ اقبال نے فرمائی تھی۔
اِن تازہ خداوں میں بڑا سب سے وطن ہے
جو پیرہن اِسکا ہے،وہ دِین کا کفن ہے
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is where problem starts.
Islam is first not pakistan or saudia or iran.
If every muslim starts to think like that then we dont need individual states, instead one big islamic state under one khalifa having different governers for different reigons.

Actually Pakistan is made on the name of ISLAM and no other country in world is made on the name of ISLAM , so when we say Pakistan first then it means that ISLAM first.

SAUDI or IRANI or any other state none is made for ISLAM only Pakistan where all ISLAMIC sects live happily.

We can not allow and we should not allow any other other country or state or group to use the name of ISLAM and create a divide in Pakistan.

Further more discussion is about shirk and its not a shirk its not even a sin.
 
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Irobot

Senator (1k+ posts)
Actually Pakistan is made on the name of ISLAM and no other country in world is made on the name of ISLAM , so when we say Pakistan first then it means that ISLAM first.

SAUDI or IRANI or any other state none is made for ISLAM only Pakistan where all ISLAMIC sects live happily.

We can not allow and we should not allow any other other country or state or group to use the name of ISLAM and create a divide in Pakistan.

Further more discussion is about shirk and its not a shirk its not even a sin.


Made in name of islam but rules are of non muslims.
Plz dont say that we have islamic government and islamic constituation.
Then our nawaz and zardari are ameer ul moomneen.

islamic government is more important thant just land in name of islam.
Islam teaches us about brotherhood not about division by land.
These boundries are just mordern creation.
There should be only one islamic government all over land where muslims live.

macca was holy place even before prophet muhammad SAWS.
But he SAWS had to come to clean it from shirk and idols.
Even that most holy place was not pure and had to b cleaned according to islamic teachings.

Same here pakistan was build in name of islam but sorry to say today islam does not rule here
 

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