Maulana Fazl ur Rehman's aides met US diplomats in Islamabad - Dr Shahid Masood

[Siasi Jasoos]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1179061910542721030

 

[stargazer]

Kaun kis ka agent??!!

 

[ninetykman]

haha...Yahoodi looby ?? hahaha

 

[Aslan]

Fazloo munafiq kissed American ambassador's feet and beg her to help him become PM.This munafiq will do anything to get into power.Even if Israel offers help he will gladly accept it.

 

[Saboo]

فضلو نے کہا ہے لوگوں کو تو خواہ مخواہ میں کسی بھی
بات کا بتنگڑ بنانا خوب اتا ہے؟ میرے کچھ ساتھی امریکا
ڈزنی لینڈ سیر کو جانا چاہتے ہیں تو ویزا اپلائی کرنے
گئے تھے؟ ایک بچہ تو کسی داڑھی والے میں بھی ہو سکتا ہے؟
فضول میں اسے سیاسی رنگ نہ دیا جائے ?

 

[ninetykman]

Where is Khalai Maqhlooq Pimp ??? hahahaha...

 

[Eyeaan]

Namoos e Faloo ke liey yeh mulaqaat zaroori thi.

Shame on madrassa student who follow this moral scum. He is not a religious person but an agent of evil and liars.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Namoos e Faloo ke liey yeh mulaqaat zaroori thi.

Shame on madrassa student who follow this moral scum. He is not a religious person but an agent of evil and liars.

You reap as you sow..... It is your legacy, he is just a follower....

 

[Eyeaan]

You reap as you sow..... It is your legacy, he is just a follower....

I don't recall where do you find parallels.
If you are referring to dhana that was about 4-halqey which Nawaz government dragged for no valid reason (except hubris). Dhandli issue in any case relates to the core of legitimacy of an elected government. Recall what happened when Bhutto government rigged (including rigging admitted and confirmed by EC on 36 constituencies and much much more.) The fiction and conspiracies woven around that dharna is all yours and nothing to do with us - nor that is worth a debate.

If you are referring to Rizvi's episode, what's that to do with us or our legacy. Mind you the conspiracy theories are your own fabrications and precisely against the facts in spite of outside help from crazy J. kaazi. Yet nothing whatsoever to do with PTI except for some over-stretched (but lazy) minds.

Nice to know that "agitation politics" is our legacy and invention - YES own that legacy because agitational politics is major part of democratic struggle from the day one even before anarchist+trade unionists perfected it in the beginning of last century; Anyhow all are welcome for agitation politics
however JUI's agitation on religious pretexts, blatant disinformation and lies and with poisonous sectarian undertone is problematic; and perhaps against the law as well. In any case a political government has to handle the situation with political actions until law n order issues arise.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

I don't recall where do you find parallels.
If you are referring to dhana that was about 4-halqey which Nawaz government dragged for no valid reason (except hubris). Dhandli issue in any case relates to the core of legitimacy of an elected government. Recall what happened when Bhutto government rigged (including rigging admitted and confirmed by EC on 36 constituencies and much much more.) The fiction and conspiracies woven around that dharna is all yours and nothing to do with us - nor that is worth a debate.

If you are referring to Rizvi's episode, what's that to do with us or our legacy. Mind you the conspiracy theories are your own fabrications and precisely against the facts in spite of outside help from crazy J. kaazi. Yet nothing whatsoever to do with PTI except for some over-stretched (but lazy) minds.

Nice to know that "agitation politics" is our legacy and invention - YES own that legacy because agitational politics is major part of democratic struggle from the day one even before anarchist+trade unionists perfected it in the beginning of last century; Anyhow all are welcome for agitation politics
however JUI's agitation on religious pretexts, blatant disinformation and lies and with poisonous sectarian undertone is problematic; and perhaps against the law as well. In any case a political government has to handle the situation with political actions until law n order issues arise.

Look . There is no need to extract excuses for Dhernas. If the problem lied with the results of the few constituencies , the right platform to address such issues were electoral tribunals duly run by ECP.The rigging of few such constituencies were mere eye wash and the real intention was to topple the Government by using the ISI and the former army generals .
PTI is the Pioneer of dherna, using Religion for the political purposes , asking TUQ to bring his students to lock down the Capital. Attacking Parliament ,supreme court and PTV .
Even in Rizvi's episode, IK remain on saying that Rizvi dherna could have been attended by PTI and its members. Shaikh Rasheed , the Railway Minister handed them full support under the name of Namos e Resaalat .
So, there is lot on PTI plate as far as the sowing division and using religion for the political mileages. I said so you reap what you sow. I am against Fazlu dherna to remove the Bongi Khan , because any one who can bring few hundred miscreants and close the Capital could have won to displace legit rulers as well.

 

[siasatjaan]

I don't recall where do you find parallels.
If you are referring to dhana that was about 4-halqey which Nawaz government dragged for no valid reason (except hubris). Dhandli issue in any case relates to the core of legitimacy of an elected government. Recall what happened when Bhutto government rigged (including rigging admitted and confirmed by EC on 36 constituencies and much much more.) The fiction and conspiracies woven around that dharna is all yours and nothing to do with us - nor that is worth a debate.

If you are referring to Rizvi's episode, what's that to do with us or our legacy. Mind you the conspiracy theories are your own fabrications and precisely against the facts in spite of outside help from crazy J. kaazi. Yet nothing whatsoever to do with PTI except for some over-stretched (but lazy) minds.

Nice to know that "agitation politics" is our legacy and invention - YES own that legacy because agitational politics is major part of democratic struggle from the day one even before anarchist+trade unionists perfected it in the beginning of last century; Anyhow all are welcome for agitation politics
however JUI's agitation on religious pretexts, blatant disinformation and lies and with poisonous sectarian undertone is problematic; and perhaps against the law as well. In any case a political government has to handle the situation with political actions until law n order issues arise.

this zaidi qasim is an indian paid troll. ignore him

 

[Eyeaan]

Look . There is no need to extract excuses for Dhernas. If the problem lied with the results of the few constituencies , the right platform to address such issues were electoral tribunals duly run by ECP.The rigging of few such constituencies were mere eye wash and the real intention was to topple the Government by using the ISI and the former army generals .
PTI is the Pioneer of dherna, using Religion for the political purposes , asking TUQ to bring his students to lock down the Capital. Attacking Parliament ,supreme court and PTV .
Even in Rizvi's episode, IK remain on saying that Rizvi dherna could have been attended by PTI and its members. Shaikh Rasheed , the Railway Minister handed them full support under the name of Namos e Resaalat .
So, there is lot on PTI plate as far as the sowing division and using religion for the political mileages. I said so you reap what you sow. I am against Fazlu dherna to remove the Bongi Khan , because any one who can bring few hundred miscreants and close the Capital could have won to displace legit rulers as well.

Perhaps I failed to convey the gist of my reply. Of course I disagree with your conspiracy theories nor I wish to discuss what has become gospel to your clan.

I was about legacy of 'agitational, confrontational/protest, politics in a democratic system.
Imho that is the best and most fruitful part of democracy and politics. The gem

(The way I read the recent political and social history) about all of political changes and progress is made by protest movements and organizations. Elected parliaments (including the judicial system) make the law and solidify the progress on the ground but they (and especially judiciary) stay conservative and stick to status quo forces/interests unless pushed and shoved by protest movements and 'extra-parliamentary' political struggle.
It was Jefferson who said there is a need of a revolution after every decade.
Parliament (and judiciary) are ALWAYS a step behind unless it attains power through agitation struggle. However in a democratic system, agitation in itself does not bring about active laws or progress but push the political parties/agenda. Perhaps for generational/regional interests protest/agitation is the only way forward. Aims of revolutionary politics are quite different. So, I personally fully OWN to that legacy.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Perhaps I failed to convey the gist of my reply. Of course I disagree with your conspiracy theories nor I wish to discuss what has become gospel to your clan.

I was about legacy of 'agitational, confrontational/protest, politics in a democratic system.
Imho that is the best and most fruitful part of democracy and politics. The gem

(The way I read the recent political and social history) about all of political changes and progress is made by protest movements and organizations. Elected parliaments (including the judicial system) make the law and solidify the progress on the ground but they (and especially judiciary) stay conservative and stick to status quo forces/interests unless pushed and shoved by protest movements and 'extra-parliamentary' political struggle.
It was Jefferson who said there is a need of a revolution after every decade.
Parliament (and judiciary) are ALWAYS a step behind unless it attains power through agitation struggle. However in a democratic system, agitation in itself does not bring about active laws or progress but push the political parties/agenda. Perhaps for generational/regional interest changes protest/agitation is the only way forward. Aims of revolutionary politics are quite different. So, I personally fully OWN to that legacy.

I think you are stretching the meaning of protest too far off. Of course the protest in any democracy is allowed and has been recognized the most effective way of conveying the grievances of the people and forcing the rulers not to adopt the dictatorial habits. It is also use to continue to draw the attention of ruling party to the problems country facing .
But any democratically allowed protest should be remain within the law and order of the society. It should be peaceful and it should not be used to lock down the daily activity of the democratically elected Government.
What PTI did wasn't a peaceful agitation and protest. It was a concocted conspiracy with the ISI to force to shut down the Government and create chaos. No one can call those tactics which can foster the democracy and peace in the country . It was more of a Hooliganism than a protest . I still have pictures of goons running around inside the PTV building with long sticks and arms. This is the legacy of violence and rowdiness which can't be equate with peaceful demonstration
.