Imran khans financial credibility??

malikazhar

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Tundi e baad e mukhalaf se na ghabra aay Ukaab,
ye to chalti hen tujhy ooncha urane ke liay.......

well done! Adnan aap ke iss propeganday se logon ko kam az kam ye khayal to ay ga ke sb leaderon ka hisab kia jay.......thank you dear.
 

victim

MPA (400+ posts)
Agar farishta bhi aajaye to tum ous me bhi aeb nikalo gay. Ore apnay shetan sifat Leaders tum ko bilkul be aeb lagtay hain. Sharam bhi koi cheez hoti hai. Apnay personal faide ka mat socho saray Pakistan ki fikar kero. Tum jesse logon ki waja se Pakista aaaj is nehj per ponch chuka hai
 

malikbhai

MPA (400+ posts)
Aib merey tay palla dainda huner kereinda zaahir

Jadon da Karam da wara kerda koi na rehnda baahir.

He hides my faults and shows my fair deeds, when ever He decides to shower Mercy none is left deprived.
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Allah jise aizat dai usay zaleel koi nhee ker sakta oor jise zilat day usay izat koi nhee day sakta, Imran ko mera Allah Izat bakhs rha hai, tum jaisay karai kai tatoo usay kya zaleel karain gay.

 

MYCOUNTRY

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear Adnanali !
Imran Khan is a painter , he painted a picture (Shukat Khanum Hospital) now if you find any kind of defect then ask your Leader Nawaz Sharif/Zardari/Altaf/Fazul Rehman ect to paint a better one ,rather talking rubbish about Imran,s credibility ?

Jo kar sakta haay woh kar jata haay , jo nahien kar sakta woh nasihat karta haay.......Don,t do Nasihaat try to do something like Imran
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Imran Khan, the Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf keeps roaring on the money of political leaders abroad and how that is affecting our country’s development. Imran Khan is known to be a person of means, and this I am quite certain that he has certain obligations abroad, like an ex-wife and sons living with his ex-wife. Does he send the kids any money or he doesn’t? If he does, he either does it from Pakistan, through remittance or has accounts abroad. If he doesn’t, that would speak volumes about the man who preaches morality, ghairat and honor. These are his personal matters and should not be discussed that much, however, something more public is his accomplished project of Shaukat Khanum Memorial Trust.
Before I begin, I want to highlight, why I am writing piece. Imran Khan after his Party’s CEC meeting, while briefing the press:

“He lamented the ruling elite had their accounts abroad and were taking away billions of dollars, as these were never spent for the welfare of the masses.”
I have just downloaded the 2009 financial statements of Shaukat Khanum Memorial Trust audited by AF Ferguson & Co. The 2010 statements are not yet available.
Some points I have noted, include:

  1. During 2009, the cash donations and zakat received by the Trust was Rs. 1.485 billion compared to Rs. 1.106 billion in 2008. The statements do not show the sources of the donations i.e. geography. We don’t know how much was raised in Pakistan and how much abroad. We can assume that if not majority, a significant amount is raised in Pakistan.
  2. Imran Khan talks against money being kept abroad. In notes to accounts number 11, I can see an amount at cost of US $5.5mn invested in form of capital protected notes in foreign funds. With interest rates down globally I am sure these notes are not yielding much.
  3. As much as $3mn is invested in a Virgin Islands based SPV called Cinnabar International Services that is doing a real estate project in Oman. The Omani market is as much affected like the rest of GCC. Based on investment analysis some Omani companies are down 35pc on the valuation. One also must ask why is the portfolio restricted to Oman? Isn’t this against the concept that Imran Khan keeps talking about. Instead of investing his portfolio in Pakistan where his own project that is operational he is investing abroad? By the way, the project in Oman is run by a company whose CEO is a member of Board of Governors of SKMT named Imtiaz H. Hyderi. Isn’t that a conflict of interest?
  4. As much as Rs. 99 mn in Bank of Punjab as fixed deposit and NIB Bank Rs. 18 million. The return expected is not known. These two are not the top tier banks of Pakistan. It is also a matter of surprise that Bank of Punjab is considered to be in trouble in light of their performance and the scandals. Why does the Trust consider these two banks only for their fixed deposits?
  5. There is another $4mn invested with Credit Agricole funds in Guernsey without explanation as to where the money is being invested in.
Is this the level transparency you would like to have with an organization whose head and a prominent public figure preaches morality? Is this morality that on one hand you lambast the political leadership that they have their money abroad, but on the other hand, you yourselves are investing money raised from general public in risky avenues? What would happen if the investments of nearly US$ 12.5 million were to go bust? That is almost Rs. 1.062 billion! Please think about it.
The public trusts Imran Khan; the problem is that he trusts the Taliban and defends them in public by denying their crimes against humanity.

Given the huge capital inflows into his various projects, can we trust Imran Khan to not donate money to terrorist organizations like the Taliban and their local affiliates, many of whom like Sipah Sahaba and Jamaat Dawa gave him support for his recent “dharna”?

Does the ISI view Imran Khan’s Trusts as a conduit to funnel money to Jihadis? These are all pertinent questions that come to mind when evaluating and auditing Imran Khan. Imran Khan recently won the Jinnah society award for his flood relief efforts. These efforts were not altruistic and were focused on gaining political mileage at the cost of actual flood relief efforts.

When President Zardari travelled to the UK which was the largest donor to Pakistan’s flood relief efforts, Imran Khan’s PTI combined with Hizb ul Tahrir to launch protests that called for Sharia. Given that there are inconsistencies in his own flood relief efforts, would it not be fair to ask for a detailed audit of all the funds that Imran Khan collected from Western democracies like UK, Canada and the US; an indication of his utter hypocrisy given his visceral hatred of Western thought!

We are all troubled at Imran Khan’s extremist views, his defence for the Taliban and his character attack on Pakistan’s noted scientist, intellectual and peace activist, Dr. Pervaiz Hoodbhoy. Imran proceeded to follow this with actual threats of physical violence against the good professor.
As far as Mr. Imran Khan is concerned, we request him again to bring his house in order before pointing generally towards others. SKMT is without doubt a proud project which belongs not to Imran Khan or other trustees but also to each and every person who gets treated there or ever donated to it. People will challenge what I have said, just to reiterate, I donated for the first time for SKMT way back in 1990, when for me Imran Khan epitomised a “hero”!!!!

Your post suggest you to be an old pro with new name and you are more likely to cut paste same questions so let me give you a precise response so that you can take a highway out of there.

Imran agreed his divorce terms with his ex-wife and they had amicably decided that Jamima will not claim anything from Imran's property holdings in Pakistan and Imran will not seek any claim in Jamima's family wealth. For your information, Jamima's personal share in Goldsmith Estate is more than 400 million Sterling and Imran could have claimed half of it. That means he could have made 200 million Pounds Sterling, a dream for anyone in the world let alone from Pakistan. He did not claim, get ready don't faint, 26 Arab (26,000,000,000).

If a MAN can forgo his claim to this much money, wtf are you talking about who is paying for Kids fees. It was part of agreement that who pays what and where do they stay. It was mutually agreed by the family and has worked out rather well for the family.

Your second point about SKH funding, IK has nothing to do with the finance management. He just takes part Fundraising side. Funds are kept in overseas which come from donations overseas to make payment for machinery, medicines and hospital supplies. Money in Pakistan can come in, no problem but if wish to legitimately take out for payment to machinery and supplies, there are thousands of hurdles and it will be used as a political stunt like Ran Sanaullah keeps saying about one machine imported without any tender which was actually a donation from American Doctor Association.

Don't compare these funds with corruption holdings of our politicians and bureaucracy which actually went out of Pakistan through Hundi and Hawala. SKH funds are overseas donations which are kept overseas and as management knows when payments are due, these are invested in non risk funds to earn something more and capital plus addition is used for payment to suppliers.

Hope this answers your concerns.
 

malikbhai

MPA (400+ posts)

Your post suggest you to be an old pro with new name and you are more likely to cut paste same questions so let me give you a precise response so that you can take a highway out of there.

Imran agreed his divorce terms with his ex-wife and they had amicably decided that Jamima will not claim anything from Imran's property holdings in Pakistan and Imran will not seek any claim in Jamima's family wealth. For your information, Jamima's personal share in Goldsmith Estate is more than 400 million Sterling and Imran could have claimed half of it. That means he could have made 200 million Pounds Sterling, a dream for anyone in the world let alone from Pakistan. He did not claim, get ready don't faint, 26 Arab (26,000,000,000).

If a MAN can forgo his claim to this much money, wtf are you talking about who is paying for Kids fees. It was part of agreement that who pays what and where do they stay. It was mutually agreed by the family and has worked out rather well for the family.

Your second point about SKH funding, IK has nothing to do with the finance management. He just takes part Fundraising side. Funds are kept in overseas which come from donations overseas to make payment for machinery, medicines and hospital supplies. Money in Pakistan can come in, no problem but if wish to legitimately take out for payment to machinery and supplies, there are thousands of hurdles and it will be used as a political stunt like Ran Sanaullah keeps saying about one machine imported without any tender which was actually a donation from American Doctor Association.

Don't compare these funds with corruption holdings of our politicians and bureaucracy which actually went out of Pakistan through Hundi and Hawala. SKH funds are overseas donations which are kept overseas and as management knows when payments are due, these are invested in non risk funds to earn something more and capital plus addition is used for payment to suppliers.

Hope this answers your concerns.
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good reply GeoG. an eye opener for Imran opposers.
 

fahid_asif

Senator (1k+ posts)
Imran se jealousy samajh nhi ati. Na to wo bomb dhamakey kerwata ha, na target killing, na bhatta khori, na bharay ka tutto. Logo bardash kro. kya is mulk main sirf puranay gissay pittay sisatdanoon ko siasat ka huq ha? Bhai sahib talban se ziada intaha pasand to aap hain.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Its all Hospital's property , not Imran Khan's personally . If he dies , Allah na krae , the hospital will continue under another chairman ,

U need to consult Pak law , its a limited organisation , not someone's property.

It is not only the property but all his charitable work holdings which includes fixed and moveable assets does not belong to IK or his family and will not belong to them. May Allah give him long life and strength to serve the nation instead of a few regions only.
 

cefspan

Minister (2k+ posts)

It is not only the property but all his charitable work holdings which includes fixed and moveable assets does not belong to IK or his family and will not belong to them. May Allah give him long life and strength to serve the nation instead of a few regions only.


I was really disturbed after reading his article , but then I thought that HEY? its all hospital's is it not?

Unlike other politicians , Imran Khan owned all for hospital , it isn't in his personal account .
Secondly , my uncle , who is himself a charted accountant in UK , told me that Aga khan and Shauqat Khanam and FFC had most crystal clear audit records........
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Its important to note that this is ADNANZALI's first post on siasat.pk and of all the issues facing the country i.e drone attacks, corruption, mismanagement, Nawaz Sharif/Shahbaz Sharif wikileaks and the list goes on, but this guy chose Imran Khan as his target and questioned his financial credibility even though everyone in Pakistan fully trusts Imran Khan and people give millions in donation every year. Also note the timing, while 20000+ people are now attending Dharna in Karachi today, he posted this thread. I dont think its hard to know the motive of this thread and which party this person belongs to.
 

Pakistan 1st

Minister (2k+ posts)
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