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[Pak1stani]

Nope she Is Pakistan citizen. Unlike Altaf Hussain and others

http://tribune.com.pk/story/599166/aafia-siddiquis-citizenship/

nope, shes an american citizen!!!

 

[GujjarPakistani]

:biggthumpup:سہراب جی ، زیادہ چپس نہ کھایا کریں ،موٹاپا بڑھ جائے گا

baqi baatain phir hongi , main apne liye chips banane ja raha hoon aftari k liye

 

[GujjarPakistani]

زید حامد نے خود کو مصیبت میں پھنسایا ہے ، کیا اس پاغل کو سعودی عرب کے سخت قوانین کا علم نہ تھا ؟ یہ سمجھ رہا تھا کہ تقریر اور بکواس بازی کی جو آزادی پاکستان میں ہے وہ سعودی عرب میں بھی ہو گی ۔ اب بھگتو

 

[Sohraab]

:biggthumpup:سہراب جی ، زیادہ چپس نہ کھایا کریں ،موٹاپا بڑھ جائے گا

main ne chips khai hi nahi the meri sister ne mujhe tang kia tha jis ki wajha se main kitchen se bahar nikal gaya

 

[such bolo]

Read it again - a little carefully this time. If still that's all you could make out of what I said then I can't really help.

I was expecting you to say something about it anyways as it involved Saudis ;)
Its obvious that you are getting a little carried away in your love for the kings and princes and reading more into it than what I wrote in my post.

There is no authenticated news that he said anything against the saudis while in Saudi Arabia.

The real issue is that this guy called out the saudis in public on their intervention in Yemen.

جب بهی سعودی سے متعلق کسی تهریڈ میں آپ مجھ سے مخاطب هوتے هیں تو یہ الزام لگائے بغیر نهیں رهتے کہ معامله سعودیہ کا هے اس لئے میں تعصب سے کام لے رها هوں

بهرحال میں بهی یہ الزام آپ پر لگاسکتا هوں
مگر بات کو آگے بڑهاتا هوں

آپ کهتے هیں کہ کو حتمی خبر نهیں
اگر ایسا هے تو پهر کمنٹس کرنے سے پهلے انتظار کرلیا جائے

مزید یہ کہ سعودی طرز حکومت میں عوامی اجتماعات میں حکومت پر تنقید جرم هے..کیا همیں اس طرز کے خلاف سعودیہ کے سامنے کهڑا هونا چاهئے؟
آپ نے پچهلی پوسٹ میں یہی تعلیم دی هے

آپ پاکستانیوں کو دوسرے ممالک کے قانون کی پاسداری کا درس کیوں نهیں دیتے

 

[mrk123]

جب بهی سعودی سے متعلق کسی تهریڈ میں آپ مجھ سے مخاطب هوتے هیں تو یہ الزام لگائے بغیر نهیں رهتے کہ معامله سعودیہ کا هے اس لئے میں تعصب سے کام لے رها هوں

بهرحال میں بهی یہ الزام آپ پر لگاسکتا هوں
مگر بات کو آگے بڑهاتا هوں

آپ کهتے هیں کہ کو حتمی خبر نهیں
اگر ایسا هے تو پهر کمنٹس کرنے سے پهلے انتظار کرلیا جائے

مزید یہ کہ سعودی طرز حکومت میں عوامی اجتماعات میں حکومت پر تنقید جرم هے..کیا همیں اس طرز کے خلاف سعودیہ کے سامنے کهڑا هونا چاهئے؟
آپ نے پچهلی پوسٹ میں یہی تعلیم دی هے

آپ پاکستانیوں کو دوسرے ممالک کے قانون کی پاسداری کا درس کیوں نهیں دیتے

thats what i wrote earlier that you completely missed the point i was trying to make.

and, as far as saudis and you are concerned you are the one who engaged me and it was not the other way around but most old timers on this forum know that as soon as saudis and saudia is discussed then without fail you and mirza sahib appear out of nowhere to defend them.

also, i would love for you to speak your mind even if its about me. I am not a saudi king or prince who couldn't take a little criticism and wouldn't know a thing about respecting difference of opinion. I wouldn't ask for you to be put in jail or whipped for speaking your mind.:)

I am questioning the stupid law.

I know Zaid from way back from our college days and of course he has become a certified idiot but he is certainly not that dumb to go to Saudi Arabia
and start to publicly challenge the saudi state. What I said was that beside the point that there are very details available I fundamentally disagree with
the stupid Saudi law as I would disagree with a stupid law in Pakistan or Iran or Saudi Arabia or America or anywhere in the world.

On these lines I was making the point that I made in my post in response to Muqadas' post which you obviously didn't understand at all.

Civil rights movement in America would not have succeeded and blacks would not have won their rights if they had not challenged the stupid law of the land.
Nelson Mandela and the blacks would not have got rid of the apartheid regime if they had submitted to the law of the government of South Africa.
Laws are man made and in most cases - specially the exploitative forces and groups install these laws and rules to suppress dissent.

The saudi law is one such law and exists because the kings want to continue their illegitimate rule and wouldn't want any dissenting voices.

To criticize that law is perfectly fine in my books. I would not ask people to go flaunt that law as you 'wrongly' suggested that I would encourage people to do.

I am trying to explain myself which I hate to do because I have a feeling that you probably still miss the point that I am trying to make given that you didn't see the point I was making with referencing laws of the Saudis or the Apartheid South Africa or Colonial British rulers or the Israelis.

 

[Neutral man]

Saudia ko pehle hi mirchen lagi hui hen, k Pak Army wahn nahi gayi thi,,,
ab wo aese krke badle le rahe hen,,,

 

[Zain Itrat]

All Takfiris of this forum celebrating, looks like he was giving a real tough time :-D

 

[There is only 1]

All Takfiris of this forum celebrating, looks like he was giving a real tough time :-D

Thank you for your comment.
Not only he was giving tough time to TTP/ISIS terrorists but also he was attacking indians, croupt politicians.

 

[gorgias]

تکفیری کون ہوتے ہیں؟؟

 

[such bolo]

thats what i wrote earlier that you completely missed the point i was trying to make.

and, as far as saudis and you are concerned you are the one who engaged me and it was not the other way around but most old timers on this forum know that as soon as saudis and saudia is discussed then without fail you and mirza sahib appear out of nowhere to defend them.

جو راۓ آپ میرے بارے میں رکھتے ہیں وہ غلط ہے
میں اس سے متفق نہیں

also, i would love for you to speak your mind even if its about me. I am not a saudi king or prince who couldn't take a little criticism and wouldn't know a thing about respecting difference of opinion. I wouldn't ask for you to be put in jail or whipped for speaking your mind.:)

تنقید اور اظہار راۓ کے اصول و ضوابط ہوتے ہیں
جمہوری ملکوں تک میں اسکی قیود و شرائط مختلف ہیں

بادشاہت کا اپنا مزاج ہوتا ہے
جمہوریت کا اپنا مزاج

I know Zaid from way back from our college days and of course he has become a certified idiot but he is certainly not that dumb to go to Saudi Arabia
and start to publicly challenge the saudi state. What I said was that beside the point that there are very details available I fundamentally disagree with
the stupid Saudi law as I would disagree with a stupid law in Pakistan or Iran or Saudi Arabia or America or anywhere in the world.

Nelson Mandela and the blacks would not have got rid of the apartheid regime if they had submitted to the law of the government of South Africa.
Laws are man made and in most cases - specially the exploitative forces and groups install these laws and rules to suppress dissent.

The saudi law is one such law and exists because the kings want to continue their illegitimate rule and wouldn't want any dissenting voices.

To criticize that law is perfectly fine in my books. I would not ask people to go flaunt that law as you 'wrongly' suggested that I would encourage people to do.

I am trying to explain myself which I hate to do because I have a feeling that you probably still miss the point that I am trying to make given that you didn't see the point I was making with referencing laws of the Saudis or the Apartheid South Africa or Colonial British rulers or the Israelis.

آپکا کسی ملک کے قانون سے اختلاف کرنا حق ہے
مگر اس ملک میں جا کر قانون کی پاسداری کرنا فرض ہے

آپنے اپنی پہلی پوسٹ میں سعودی حکومت کے سامنے کھڑے ہونے کی بات کی
جس پر میں نے اعتراض کیا کہ اگر زید حامد نے سعودیہ میں جا کر کوئی بکواس کی ہے جس کی تفصیل اب آجانی چاہیے...تو پھر آپکی بات انتہائی نا مناسب ہے

"this is the time that we drop our biases and stand for principles for once and show that just because we get handouts from the Saudis that we don't bend over backwards and defend all of their stupid actions."

اطلاعات یہی ہیں کہ مدینہ میں کسی تقریب نے موصوف نے جوش خطابت میں قابل اعتراض باتیں کرلیں جسے کسی پاکستانی نے ہی رپورٹ کردیا

باقی معاملات پر گفتگو پھر کبھی موضوع کے حساب سے کرلینگے

ان شا اللہ

 

[Zain Itrat]

تکفیری کون ہوتے ہیں؟؟

دوسروں کو کافر قرار دینے والے ، یہاں مراد داعش اور طالبان سپورٹر ہیں . ان شارٹ وہ سب لوگ جنکو زید حامد برا بھلا کہتا تھا