Why Principal Of Aitchison College Resigned?

[Kashif Rafiq]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=444686826023317

 

[NeutralMafia]

And pti walay is k aashiq ko ticket Dai rahay han

 

[Okara]

Thanks to PTI government to start spreading education and is good to start with Kashmala's son. We must force everyone who is not facilitating to educate Pakistan.

 

[Sunbeam]

Kashmala Tariq is a Badmash Aurat and does not deserve to be called a Aurat.
But she might be ready to get her son readmitted through bedroom of Principal, that is how she came to assembly.

 

[pinionated]

Put the kid in public school as punishment

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

And pti walay is k aashiq ko ticket Dai rahay han

I think that aashiq is a choice of establishment. Mr. Aashiq always stay in government no matter who is in power.

Otherwise the kind of language and attacks he did on IK and PTI, he should be nowhere near PTI's government.

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

Thanks to PTI government to start spreading education and is good to start with Kashmala's son. We must force everyone who is not facilitating to educate Pakistan.

Musharraf destroyed Pakistan's democracy by allowing free female seats in National Assembly.
Now Kashmala kind of 2 $ cheap females have become lawmakers in Pakistan without even running any election.

Musharraf damaged our systems more than any elected politicians. I think he should also be brought back and should be hanged.

 

[Okara]

Musharraf destroyed Pakistan's democracy by allowing free female seats in National Assembly.
Now Kashmala kind of 2 $ cheap females have become lawmakers in Pakistan without even running any election.

Musharraf damaged our systems more than any elected politicians. I think he should also be brought back and should be hanged.

But In Pakistan, we don't have backache treatment for a brave commando. Unless we don't have good treatment facilities like below we can't bring Musharraf back
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...a-back-surgery-dances-on-punjabi-song/391858/

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

But In Pakistan, we don't have backache treatment for a brave commando. Unless we don't have good treatment facilities like below we can't bring Musharraf back
https://www.financialexpress.com/wo...a-back-surgery-dances-on-punjabi-song/391858/

Justice system is crap. For poor people, there is no backach accepted but for rich haramkhorz all sicknesses are accepted to give bail and happily send them to foreign lands for treatment.

Why government even have control over ECL system. All over the world, only judges and courts place/remove criminals on this list.

This law should also be changed.

 

[Eyeaan]

Rather than unduly criticizing the government, it is not the government that pressurized but she had to go to SC which means she failed to use the strings. There seems a problem within the justice system -- that on what grounds SC accepted his petition (if media report is correct).
Obviously the government will not help her son but will side with the principal in the court.
However let's see what is material to the case before jumping guns; there are always two sides of a case and he has approached the court after he assess that he has a merit, in his opinion.

It is true that such minor conflicts should be resolved at committee level and the schools should have autonomy with a system of internal independent review process However neither a complainant ought to be retrained nor the the court can be limited to accept it by the executive; whatever the frivolous petitions may be. Only the court has to decide about the merits and that is necessary for an independent judiciary.

Government's duty is limited only to facilitate easy and equal access to the court system and to adopt the laws with the recommendations of judiciary that judicial system is not misused.

It is true that justice system is in shambles and a toy in the hands of the powerful however without independent police and investigation, system cannot be possibly reformed.

 

[Eyeaan]

Why government even have control over ECL system

Because that is an administrative issue and a part of the investigative process often needed before the case reaches to the court. Further the law enforcing bodies are a party in assessing for the reach of a criminal.
However, after a justifiable time, it is the court that have to make the decision - or the court may relegated its powers to an independent body to review such cases.

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

Because that is an administrative issue and a part of the investigative process often needed before the case reaches to the court. Further the law enforcing bodies are a party in assessing for the reach of a criminal.
However, after a justifiable time, it is the court that have to make the decision - or the court may relegated its powers to an independent body to review such cases.

Sounds more like bullshit and tyranny.

Every citizen has rights. He can't be arrested without a court issued order. He has constitutional right to travel then how government can take away such right without permission of the court?

I call that travesty of justice. Giving government right that government shouldn't have at first place without a judges order.

Let's say government is a plaintiff in a case yet to be proven against me in a court of law. Then how the hell they can place me on ECL when they are direct party to a case.

It's like government becoming judge, jury and executioner at the same time.

In Pakistan everything is upside down. Everyone is guilty in Pakistan until proven innocent and Constitution is like piece of trash who doesn't even provide basis rights to it's citizens.

How can you give Government authority to take away fundamental rights of a citizen. Never heard of that.

 

[Eyeaan]

Musharraf -- by allowing free female seats in National Assembly.

Just for info:
Nominated seats for minorities were in the original constitution. Zia introduced direct (dual voting) system for election which was rejected by the minority groups.

Zia added (10%) nominated women seat to shoora for 10 years.

Both parties contested elections in 90s on the slogans to increase such seats (ppp suggested for 1/3rd).
However after elapse of time for the original provision, PMLN wanted the elect women by direct election while PPP opposed this suggestion. No compromise was achieved for 96 election but later the seats were reintroduced.
Musgarraf drastically increased the nominated women sand minority seats at all levels including LB; such that one third of the electorate was not direct represented.
This altogether changed the character of parliament, decreasing the powers or MNAs/MPAs vis-a-vis party leaders and pushed proportional election system from the backdoor. 18th amendment further decreased powers and independence of the parliament members. and bound up their voting rights.
By now, it has become clear that this was not helpful for women or minorities but for the leaders and led to wide corruption and the system should be reformed.

 

[Eyeaan]

Sounds more like bullshit and tyranny.

Every citizen has rights. He can't be arrested without a court issued order. He has constitutional right to travel then how government can take away such right without permission of the court?

I call that travesty of justice. Giving government right that government shouldn't have at first place without a judges order.

Let's say government is a plaintiff in a case yet to be proven against me in a court of law. Then how the hell they can place me on ECL when they are direct party to a case.

It's like government becoming judge, jury and executioner at the same time.

In Pakistan everything is upside down. Everyone is guilty in Pakistan until proven innocent and Constitution is like piece of trash who doesn't even provide basis rights to it's citizens.

How can you give Government authority to take away fundamental rights of a citizen. Never heard of that.

Please calm down! The basic rights are the prime responsibility of the court and not to a lesser extent the duty of the executive. Their is no second opinion to it.
However there are always practicality issues and the corpus of law originates from those considerations not just from the principals.

ECL restricts the movements of a citizen at the borders. Think of a suspected or under-investigation murderer or smuggler on the run out of reach of law investigators who lack any solid proof. Further the intent, reach of a gang or external connections of an accused on bail which are suspected to the investigators but are neither a part of the court proceedings nor can made a part of the case for the sake of a fair trial.

The law agencies require a leeway to make a fair and well-intended prompt decision However this cannot be unlimited and unjustified. The right of the citizen to challenge the decision cannot be restricted. Further the investigators are to be made legally bound in a timeframe to seek verification from the court - bringing peripheral circumstances without making them the part of a court preceding, preferably to a judge who is not part of a trial. Even that the court should be vigilant/with a due right to appeal.
We agree to disagree; however there is a large list of law devised with this spirit. As a rule when the basic rights affect the basic rights of the other citizens (which is the case in case of criminals) the law takes course.

 

[ajaved]

And pti walay is k aashiq ko ticket Dai rahay han

Janab is k ex ashiq k baray bhai ko dia. Current ashiq sialkot say pmln k mna hain

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

Please calm down! The basic rights are the prime responsibility of the court and not to a lesser extent the duty of the executive. Their is no second opinion to it.
However there are always practicality issues and the corpus of law originates from those considerations not just from the principals.

ECL restricts the movements of a citizen at the borders. Think of a suspected or under-investigation murderer or smuggler on the run out of reach of law investigators who lack any solid proof. Further the intent, reach of a gang or external connections of an accused on bail which are suspected to the investigators but are neither a part of the court proceedings nor can made a part of the case for the sake of a fair trial.

The law agencies require a leeway to make a fair and well-intended prompt decision However this cannot be unlimited and unjustified. The right of the citizen to challenge the decision cannot be restricted. Further the investigators are to be made legally bound in a timeframe to seek verification from the court - bringing peripheral circumstances without making them the part of a court preceding, preferably to a judge who is not part of a trial. Even that the court should be vigilant/with a due right to appeal.
We agree to disagree; however there is a large list of law devised with this spirit. As a rule when the basic rights affect the basic rights of the other citizens (which is the case in case of criminals) the law takes course.

I am calm but fundamental rights are no joke for me. When you take them away, government become tyranny and tyranny becomes the law which eventually starts the civil wars.

I am not a lawyer and what you wrote here may makes sense in Pakistani law but in a free world, it's bunch of malarkey.

Law shouldn't work based on assumptions. If LEOs has enough evidence/suspicion against a citizen, they should go to a judge and ask for restriction to be placed on that particular individual's fundamental right to travel. Judge should examine their claim and only then he should ONLY have to prerogative whether or not to restrict someone's constitutional right to travel.

Otherwise, LEAs will abuse this as they have been abusing in Pakistan historically to target people of their choosing.

Also you mentioned that the individual has right to challenge LEAs decision to place him on ECL. This is like a joke. Now he will have to bear cost of seeking justice and burden to proof that he is innocent.

Why can't government do that at the first place and provide the man with the decision of the judge to put him on ECL?

Therefore, to me it seems like one is guilty until proven innocent by himself in the court of law.

 

[LovePK-or-LeavePK]

Just for info:
Nominated seats for minorities were in the original constitution. Zia introduced direct (dual voting) system for election which was rejected by the minority groups.

Zia added (10%) nominated women seat to shoora for 10 years.

Both parties contested elections in 90s on the slogans to increase such seats (ppp suggested for 1/3rd).
However after elapse time for original provision, PMLN wanted the elect women by direct election while PPP opposed this suggestion. No compromise was achieved for 96 election but later the seats were reintroduced.
Musgarraf drastically increased the nominated women sand minority seats at all levels including LB; such that one third of the electorate was not direct represented.
This altogether changed the character of parliament, decreasing the powers or MNAs/MPAs vis-a-vis party leaders and pushed proportional election system from the backdoor. !8th amendment further decrease their powers and independent of the parliament members. and bound their voting rights.
By now, it has become clear that this was not helpful for women or minorities but for the leaders and led to wide corruption and the systen should be reformed.

Yes, you summed it up very well. That is what I meant to write that Musharraf expanded number of these free grazers.