US firms begin big job reshoring drive : Shining India to Whining India

gottiII

Banned

As expected, the Indian running out of a debate to only resort to personal, ad hominem attacks to either derail the discussion or invite more insult to themselves given their culture of self-harm and causing pain to themselves.

Not a single point was used to address the Tamil issue and after having been embarrassed and insulted, for being an ill-informed, brainwashed, dogmatic, buffoon, the person starts to ask me if I pray five times a day
[hilar]


In short, the colonization that the Tamils are going through is publicly known and I didn't have to call a few folks in the future embassy of India in Chennai to find it out.

It is not my own voices and neither have I made these talking points.

These things are internationally
known and their voices are heard, worldwide.

When you have people like AR Rahman, an Oscar-winning musician, alongside other superstars who
are Shaivites, complain about North Indian Brahmin police brutality and discrimination, people are reminded of Turkey's Kurdish origin singer Ibrahim Tatlises speaking for the rights of the Kurds in Turkey who are internationally recognized as a persecuted minority.

Here is an example of North Indian Brahmin police and their brutality.

Here, they arrest Mr.
Karunanidhi (known as Kaliagnar by his supporters) publicly
in the middle of the night on live television to humiliate him and the Tamil people. Look how they man handle a septuagenarian.
If this is how the Brahmins treat the leaders of the Tamils, an old man who can't even walk with his own two feet and needs support, how would they treat the "aam Tamil aadmi"?

Here, you can see them beating a couple in public, unashamedly.



And then, you're telling me that no one should worry about the Tamil people and it is something that should be shoved under the rug?

There are many such examples but I only showed you a few (that you may already).

In short, until and unless, the people with a kudimi
don't stop treating people without one, as less than animals, the Tamil rights activism will not stop.
 
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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Thanks Gotti, for raising this critical issue for our brothers and sisters in Tamil Nadu-Desh.

You are indeed a tireless crusader and a valiant champion of the rights of the downtrodden people of Tamil Nadu and elsewhere where the shaivite people of INdia face discrimination.

We pakistanis and the international community stand with you in supporting the rights of any downtrodden people and are ready to discuss this issue on any forum to bring true peace, prosperity and rights to Tamilians.

Thanks once again !
(bigsmile)

As expected, the Indian running out of a debate to only resort to personal, ad hominem attacks to either derail the discussion or invite more insult to themselves given their culture of self-harm and causing pain to themselves.

Not a single point was used to address the Tamil issue and after having been embarrassed and insulted, for being an ill-informed, brainwashed, dogmatic, buffoon, the person starts to ask me if I pray five times a day
[hilar]


In short, the colonization that the Tamils are going through is publicly known and I didn't have to call a few folks in the future embassy of India in Chennai to find it out.

It is not my own voices and neither have I made these talking points.

These things are internationally
known and their voices are heard, worldwide.

When you have people like AR Rahman, an Oscar-winning musician, alongside other superstars who
are Shaivites, complain about North Indian Brahmin police brutality and discrimination, people are reminded of Turkey's Kurdish origin singer Ibrahim Tatlises speaking for the rights of the Kurds in Turkey who are internationally recognized as a persecuted minority.

Here is an example of North Indian Brahmin police and their brutality.

Here, they arrest Mr.
Karunanidhi (known as Kaliagnar by his supporters) publicly
in the middle of the night on live television to humiliate him and the Tamil people. Look how they man handle a septuagenarian.
If this is how the Brahmins treat the leaders of the Tamils, an old man who can't even walk with his own two feet and needs support, how would they treat the "aam Tamil aadmi"?

Here, you can see them beating a couple in public, unashamedly.



And then, you're telling me that no one should worry about the Tamil people and it is something that should be shoved under the rug?

There are many such examples but I only showed you a few (that you may already).

In short, until and unless, the people with a kudimi
don't stop treating people without one, as less than animals, the Tamil rights activism will not stop.
 

gottiII

Banned

Thanks Gotti, for raising this critical issue for our brothers and sisters in Tamil Nadu-Desh.

You are indeed a tireless crusader and a valiant champion of the rights of the downtrodden people of Tamil Nadu and elsewhere where the shaivite people of INdia face discrimination.

We pakistanis and the international community stand with you in supporting the rights of any downtrodden people and are ready to discuss this issue on any forum to bring true peace, prosperity and rights to Tamilians.

Thanks once again !
(bigsmile)

As a spokesperson for Tamilian rights in the Pakistani webosphere, I would like to thank you on behalf of our most oppressed and persecuted Tamil brethren and welcome you to raise your voice on their behalf and show moral support on all Pakistani forums, including PDF, which has more Indian traffic than Indian forums, themselves.

I would also be very happy to
take this most opportune, opportunity to share with you this article:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/528756/indias-vicious-racism/

Please scroll down to read my comment, there.

There are a few grammatical mistakes as it was made in a hurry but it shows that the Lakhanis have finally broken their vow of silencing me, which is the same as silencing freedom of speech, expression and the holy press.

This is one of the many comments that I shall be making on ET and you will enjoy, dearly, being a sincere and committed Tamil rights activist.

The independent state of Tamil Nadu will be the Dubai of the Indian ocean and we Pakistanis support any and all developments that shall take place there (including in the Sethusamudram).

Pak-Tamil Dosti Zindabad!
 
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gottiII

Banned

Thanks Gotti, for raising this critical issue for our brothers and sisters in Tamil Nadu-Desh.

You are indeed a tireless crusader and a valiant champion of the rights of the downtrodden people of Tamil Nadu and elsewhere where the shaivite people of INdia face discrimination.

We pakistanis and the international community stand with you in supporting the rights of any downtrodden people and are ready to discuss this issue on any forum to bring true peace, prosperity and rights to Tamilians.

Thanks once again !
(bigsmile)

For the convenience of those who might not have time to scroll and search, here's my comment:

"
The MUFC (Modi United Fan Club) trolls have finally invaded the Pakistani webosphere. After invading every last Twitter and Facebook account of every Indian journalist, and vandalizing every social media outlet (to vent their frustration, which is otherwise vented through sexual assault), they thought they could do the same here.


Alas! They failed to realize what the author was actually doing because they were too busy in their quest to Hindutvaize the entire subcontinent by teaching people who separated from them that they only converted by force (as in their view, the Hindu girls in Pakistan are being forced to, today) or to escape the caste-based discrimination (as they told the Bengalis who believe their ancestors converted because of being low-caste and wanted to escape such bigoted discrimination). It’s ironic that they tell the Christians the same thing and forcibly revert the newly converted Christians by telling them that they have no right to escape the caste-based discrimination “god” has imposed on you (13th amendment, anyone?).



Even worse is their obsession with their own faith that they believe anyone who converts is only doing so by force because any believer of Hinduism is so obsessed that they would never find an alternate way of life or belief system that suits their personality and needs. I mean, even if the girl says she did it, voluntarily, they don’t accept it. But, the real reason is actually them trying to tell their own followers and others, the xenophobic narrative of everyone believing in an Abrahamic faith being either a colonist or an invader (despite both religions existing in the region, even before any such event had been enforced on the “obsequious” warrior castes and children of Asoka, the tyrant).



Anywhoo, the author actually wrote the article to defend the so-called secrets of Indian society that they want hidden from the world, in a day and age of technology. Whilst they are aware of Pakistani society and our differences, they want to keep hidden the differences that they have with the Dravidian Tamils of South India who don’t believe in Ram (Vaishnavism) and are actually Shaivites.



They want us to not look at history where Periyar and Jinnah met to show solidarity with the cause of the other. Jinnah was given support for Pakistan while Periyar was supported for is Dravidistan/Dravida Nadu/Dravida Desam/Tamil Nadu.



Jinnah said he believes there should be four countries in the Subcontinent, namely, Pakistan, Bengalistan, Dravidistan, and Hindustan. It see,s the Indians were able to do a complete blackout on the fourth and only three were to be made.



Up until 1957, the constitution of India was burnt at the speech of Periyar and 2007 was when people were arrested for burning the Indian flag. The recent protests were against India for siding with the Sinhalese and abandoning the Tamils they had themselves created, only to stop the so-called string of pearls by the Chinese. Anti-Indian sentiment among the Tamils roared when they locked down the entire state by closing colleges, universities and protesting. India did pass the resolution but it did them no good. The Sethusamudram where the North Indian Vaishnavites believe the Adam’s bridge was made by Raman and the monkeys (bigoted euphemism for Tamils). Tamilians, who are mostly Shaivites don’t believe in this or in Raman, so they want it made but the North Indians keep using their Ramayana to subjugate others. Either it is the Babri Masjid, or it has been the Tamils. Tamils don’t like them or want them around, which is why they tore down BJP offices.



The author doesn’t want Pakistanis to know this, which is why he has presented an apology on behalf of the state of India by saying that the BCCI is run by a Tamil and cleverly only mentions the Brahmin Jayalalitha, who is in power and formed a government with the BJP-led NDA that his Gujarati self supports, but didn’t even mention the five time democratically-elected CM Karunanidhi who left the center and is pushing the rhetoric to even go farther to the right and ask for a referendum in Tamil Eelam. Amma is only bound to go to the right of this man, which would lead to a referendum in TN because remember people like Vaiko still exist.



In short, it had been six decades, since the Tamils have been discriminated and colonized by the North Indian police, which even prompted to make the Oscar-winning actor, AR Rahman become a Tamil rights activist, no different than the Kurd Ibrahim Tatlises on Turkey.



ET publish my comment please."
 
@Mods

Why is Mr. Kumar upset that he is not allowed to live peacefully in the Indian states of Maharashtra and Punjab whilst he can live peacefully in Sweden and Karachi?

Also, where has Zaid Hamid ever had the capacity to deal with such important internal issues of India?

I learned about India from Indians, themselves.

Secondly, Mr. Kumar is always indulging in racist name-calling and mocking the Marathis by calling them Manus, mockingly and calling Punjabi Jats as druggies, criminals and drunkards.

I believe such culture of Indian intolerance should not be allowed into a Pakistani forum where we do not accept or approve of bigotry and xenophobia, which is a common practice in the bigoted culture of India.

After being depressed at the state of his own country, he has now chosen to silence me and request my ban because my presence only serves to share information available about India, in mainstream news media.

Such information and news cannot be hidden in the information age and neither can we be open to allowing them to know every single thing about us but not have anything about them be known.

How is that fair?

Why impose the Indira Gandhi rule of emergency and force us to listen to only Doordarshan-Bihar and that too on a Pakistani website?


You again got me wrong. Punjab state in India is well known for its drug addicted youth with rising debt and lack of morality/ethics taking them backward. Marathi manoos is a socially constructed web misnomer to criticize those opportunist who use the vote bank. It has nothing to do with a native marathi.
As I mentioned before 99% of your post is useless, out of topic ; Most of us know of gloomy situation in India, Pakistan but your live delusion commentary is affecting your mental condition.
The above video will guide you get more deep into paranormal web activity ;which might later create emergency situation ;leading you to hospital [hilar][hilar]
 
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gottiII

Banned
You again got me wrong. Punjab state in India is well known for its drug addicted youth with rising debt and lack of morality/ethics taking them backward. Marathi manoos is a socially constructed web misnomer to criticize those opportunist who use the vote bank. It has nothing to do with a native marathi.
As I mentioned before 99% of your post is useless, out of topic ; Most of us know of gloomy situation in India, Pakistan but your live delusion commentary is affecting your mental condition.
The above video will guide you get more deep into paranormal web activity ;which might later create emergency situation ;leading you to hospital [hilar][hilar]


You're an honest man, Mr. Kumar.

Why indulge in trolling identical to that of the MUFC (Modi United Fan Club) trolls?
 

You're an honest man, Mr. Kumar.

Why indulge in trolling identical to that of the MUFC (Modi United Fan Club) trolls?
why not discuss the main topic.

There is no way, USA can afford to take back the jobs. In reality outsourcing helps american companies. They have to throw peanuts as salary to shift jobs to India.
In broad sense, Outsourcing hurts asian country. If there were limited opportunity in IT sector in India, the local entrepreneurial skills will rise to fill the vacuum which will be beneficial for India.
Banning of American IT companies in India created nest of Indian software start-ups in 1980's ;many of them rose to bilion $ clubs.
 

gottiII

Banned
why not discuss the main topic.

There is no way, USA can afford to take back the jobs. In reality outsourcing helps american companies. They have to throw peanuts as salary to shift jobs to India.
In broad sense, Outsourcing hurts asian country. If there were limited opportunity in IT sector in India, the local entrepreneurial skills will rise to fill the vacuum which will be beneficial for India.
Banning of American IT companies in India created nest of Indian software start-ups in 1980's ;many of them rose to bilion $ clubs.

Expecting a country facing the worst kind of unemployment since World War 2 to continue to support the employment of a foreign country instead of their own is nothing short of fantastic (root word: fantasy).

Trying to convince them of not doing this is mythical, at best, science fiction and fairy tales combined, at worst.
 
Expecting a country facing the worst kind of unemployment since World War 2 to continue to support the employment of a foreign country instead of their own is nothing short of fantastic (root word: fantasy).

Trying to convince them of not doing this is mythical, at best, science fiction and fairy tales combined, at worst.
Do you know the salary difference between an employee working in India and USA. Its 7:1. No % amount of tax can curb the profitability. Moreover WTO rules of GATT will prohibit USA from taxing those large Indian company who gain the most.
Outsourcing is not at single layer. BPO, Customer Call, IT support, Software Testing , Project management, Software Development, Software Integration using multiple products, Consultancy.. Its not just about profitability. Its also about the skill set, quality and research for certain jobs which are missing in developed country.
As I mentioned that necessity is the mother of invention. USA taxing the Indian companies, hurting their profitability may be disadvantageous tp the Indian companies n short terms, but It cant bog them down. Those companies can start investing in start up business in India ; have enough cash to get into product segment.
 
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gottiII

Banned
Do you know the salary difference between an employee working in India and USA. Its 7:1. No % amount of tax can curb the profitability. Moreover WTO rules of GATT will prohibit USA from taxing those large Indian company who gain the most.
Outsourcing is not at single layer. BPO, Customer Call, IT support, Software Testing , Project management, Software Development, Software Integration using multiple products, Consultancy.. Its not just about profitability. Its also about the skill set, quality and research for certain jobs which are missing in developed country.
As I mentioned that necessity is the mother of invention. USA taxing the Indian companies, hurting their profitability may hurt them in short time but It cant bog them down. Those companies can start investing in start up business in India, and have enough cash to get into product segment.


The amount of money they are losing by supporting an unemployed population and through higher taxes, it's better that they bring back the jobs. You're not thinking economically, despite claiming to.

You're thinking as an Indian who has family being supported by these jobs and I sympathize with them just like I sympathize with you for your naivety.

The problem is that the jobs are foreign and the industry is not local or indigenous, which will make India a hollow economy.

Furthermore, Americans are suffering from other psychological and social ills because of the high unemployment, which is making them invest in more government jobs like law enforcement and counselling, etc.

In short, the result would still benefit America despite the claims of them saving money by using "cheap labour" (BTW, last time they used cheap labour, people called it
slavery)
 

The amount of money they are losing by supporting an unemployed population and through higher taxes, it's better that they bring back the jobs. You're not thinking economically, despite claiming to.

You're thinking as an Indian who has family being supported by these jobs and I sympathize with them just like I sympathize with you for your naivety.

The problem is that the jobs are foreign and the industry is not local or indigenous, which will make India a hollow economy.

Furthermore, Americans are suffering from other psychological and social ills because of the high unemployment, which is making them invest in more government jobs like law enforcement and counselling, etc.

In short, the result would still benefit America despite the claims of them saving money by using "cheap labour" (BTW, last time they used cheap labour, people called it
slavery)

I am not speaking with feelings of sympathy. You get only 1 side of economics.

The world is globalized, survivors of the fittest move forward. Process of natural selection is making its way into society.
1. American companies outsource some jobs to Indian companies:

Question: They will tax them
How much tax : ?? 10%,20%,100%.
The WTO runs on framework of rules. Did you every try reading my last comment on GATT: General agreement of trade and tariffs.

Assume: USA tax those indian companies with 100% which makes outsourcing to India impossible. They break the law with some clauses attached.

Results =>
Some people in usa gets more jobs. Profitability of some of american companies get impacted. Germany, Japanese, Indian, Chinese companies still outsource and can produce better products at cheaper price.


Iphone manufacturing is entirely outsourced to China. Cost of production is hardly 3% but Apple makes 40% of profit which returns to usa.

Well the essence of the discussion is that:
1. USA cant enforce very very high tax , since they will break GATT WTO Law.
=> if they do, then Indian can do the same and stop buying any weapons or product from those defense companies which make bilion of $
2. Making things tough for Indian IT companies by high taxes might hurt India in short terms.
=> Those Indian companies have 5+ billion $ cash each in their pocket. They can create 1000 start up companies and compete with big american shots with in few years. Now they are just enjoying the free salvage of outsourcing cash with 20% of net profitability on every deal.
 

gottiII

Banned


Agreed! America should care less about its own employment and worry more about the well-being and opinions of Indians.
(clap)
The logic behind this entire economy facade is how a few start-ups save money by outsourcing whilst you are conveniently overlooking the social fabric being destroyed by a 10% unemployed population who can only flip so many burgers.

They need jobs, plain and simple. If that means that they would have to pay more to hire people and save taxes, then so be it.

There is no room to accept the rising unemployment just so a few companies save a little extra cash that they would end up giving the government anyway.

If they were to give the money to the employees, they would save that money on taxes and the employee would be more useful in funding the tax revenues for the states.

This is basic economics when you want to run a country. I won't quote theorists because it seems you don't need that.

The basic point is that the more employed people there are, the more closer the economy gets to full employment, which is better for the country in that they can shed their expenses and allow more capital to flow for a prosperous local economy.

This is very, very basic economics.

On a sociological level, Americans need dignity and need to support themselves - the government cannot, in a Capitalist system, become a "nanny" to support them - it's only job is to provide opportunities, which is why it is encouraging the bringing back of jobs from Bangalore, to Boston. ;)
 
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Agreed! America should care less about its own employment and worry more about the well-being and opinions of India.

(clap)
The logic behind this entire economy facade is how a few start-ups save money by outsourcing and not the social fabric being destroyed by a 10% unemployed population who can only flip so many burgers.

They need dignity and need to support themselves - the government cannot, in a Capitalist system, become a "nanny" to support them - it's only job is to provide opportunities, which is why it is encouraging bringing the jobs from Bangalore, back to Boston.
;)

If there were no outsourcing; american industries, tech companies will collapse . Americans are still moving forward because of their Software, Tech and Defense companies.
Curb on outsourcing will hurt the competitiveness of their most core sectors plunging them into darkness.
The only solution to american problem is more innovation, to climb up the value chain where american companies are able to produce more Apple, Google, Fb, Microsoft ; make big differences with their competitors.
 

gottiII

Banned
If there were no outsourcing; american industries, tech companies will collapse . Americans are still moving forward because of their Software, Tech and Defense companies.
Curb on outsourcing will hurt the competitiveness of their most core sectors plunging them into darkness.
The only solution to american problem is more innovation, to climb up the value chain where american companies are able to produce more Apple, Google, Fb, Microsoft ; make big differences with their competitors.

If the Americans and the entire Western world survived and even did more development when OPEC had increased oil prices, then, there would be no issue if they lost their cheap labour (America maintained their world power status in the 18th and 19th centuries despite losing slavery, which was the cheap labour of its time).
 
If the Americans and the entire Western world survived and even did more development when OPEC had increased oil prices, then, there would be no issue if they lost their cheap labour (America maintained their world power status in the 18th and 19th centuries despite losing slavery, which was the cheap labour of its time).

World is entirely different with most of asia, europe being able to compete with america in every sector. Except Defense tech, you can find great business houses in every part of world.
Take for example, Samsung is reducing the profitability of apple and its likely to push it more down. Samsung will continue to outsource and its products are already cheaper than Iphone. How would you expect Apple to compete once Samsung starts coming out with newer features. Apple gives more tax than any company in USA with indirect contribution in GDP as high as 0.5%
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very valuable insight and it indeeds adds to the ammo of every patriot (bigsmile)


For the convenience of those who might not have time to scroll and search, here's my comment:

"
The MUFC (Modi United Fan Club) trolls have finally invaded the Pakistani webosphere. After invading every last Twitter and Facebook account of every Indian journalist, and vandalizing every social media outlet (to vent their frustration, which is otherwise vented through sexual assault), they thought they could do the same here.


Alas! They failed to realize what the author was actually doing because they were too busy in their quest to Hindutvaize the entire subcontinent by teaching people who separated from them that they only converted by force (as in their view, the Hindu girls in Pakistan are being forced to, today) or to escape the caste-based discrimination (as they told the Bengalis who believe their ancestors converted because of being low-caste and wanted to escape such bigoted discrimination). It’s ironic that they tell the Christians the same thing and forcibly revert the newly converted Christians by telling them that they have no right to escape the caste-based discrimination “god” has imposed on you (13th amendment, anyone?).



Even worse is their obsession with their own faith that they believe anyone who converts is only doing so by force because any believer of Hinduism is so obsessed that they would never find an alternate way of life or belief system that suits their personality and needs. I mean, even if the girl says she did it, voluntarily, they don’t accept it. But, the real reason is actually them trying to tell their own followers and others, the xenophobic narrative of everyone believing in an Abrahamic faith being either a colonist or an invader (despite both religions existing in the region, even before any such event had been enforced on the “obsequious” warrior castes and children of Asoka, the tyrant).



Anywhoo, the author actually wrote the article to defend the so-called secrets of Indian society that they want hidden from the world, in a day and age of technology. Whilst they are aware of Pakistani society and our differences, they want to keep hidden the differences that they have with the Dravidian Tamils of South India who don’t believe in Ram (Vaishnavism) and are actually Shaivites.



They want us to not look at history where Periyar and Jinnah met to show solidarity with the cause of the other. Jinnah was given support for Pakistan while Periyar was supported for is Dravidistan/Dravida Nadu/Dravida Desam/Tamil Nadu.



Jinnah said he believes there should be four countries in the Subcontinent, namely, Pakistan, Bengalistan, Dravidistan, and Hindustan. It see,s the Indians were able to do a complete blackout on the fourth and only three were to be made.



Up until 1957, the constitution of India was burnt at the speech of Periyar and 2007 was when people were arrested for burning the Indian flag. The recent protests were against India for siding with the Sinhalese and abandoning the Tamils they had themselves created, only to stop the so-called string of pearls by the Chinese. Anti-Indian sentiment among the Tamils roared when they locked down the entire state by closing colleges, universities and protesting. India did pass the resolution but it did them no good. The Sethusamudram where the North Indian Vaishnavites believe the Adam’s bridge was made by Raman and the monkeys (bigoted euphemism for Tamils). Tamilians, who are mostly Shaivites don’t believe in this or in Raman, so they want it made but the North Indians keep using their Ramayana to subjugate others. Either it is the Babri Masjid, or it has been the Tamils. Tamils don’t like them or want them around, which is why they tore down BJP offices.



The author doesn’t want Pakistanis to know this, which is why he has presented an apology on behalf of the state of India by saying that the BCCI is run by a Tamil and cleverly only mentions the Brahmin Jayalalitha, who is in power and formed a government with the BJP-led NDA that his Gujarati self supports, but didn’t even mention the five time democratically-elected CM Karunanidhi who left the center and is pushing the rhetoric to even go farther to the right and ask for a referendum in Tamil Eelam. Amma is only bound to go to the right of this man, which would lead to a referendum in TN because remember people like Vaiko still exist.



In short, it had been six decades, since the Tamils have been discriminated and colonized by the North Indian police, which even prompted to make the Oscar-winning actor, AR Rahman become a Tamil rights activist, no different than the Kurd Ibrahim Tatlises on Turkey.



ET publish my comment please."
 

gottiII

Banned

This article is only explaining to us what the IT industry is like.

World is entirely different with most of asia, europe being able to compete with america in every sector. Except Defense tech, you can find great business houses in every part of world.
Take for example, Samsung is reducing the profitability of apple and its likely to push it more down. Samsung will continue to outsource and its products are already cheaper than Iphone. How would you expect Apple to compete once Samsung starts coming out with newer features. Apple gives more tax than any company in USA with indirect contribution in GDP as high as 0.5%

This is only telling me what Apple and Samsung are doing technologically and financially.

The point still remains: Jobs at home are more important than the ones in India.
 

chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
@ gotti,
To erase your past you cannot conjure up some things from your imagination. Your hatred for all things is equal and universal, and that is just about the only redeeming factor. When people try to mislead others by their own distorted agendas they fail miserably. I am now unable to answer to your stupidity because i am going to be travelling for a few days. You may continue your psychotic ramblings. Anti Punjabi ranting included. LOL. So much for standing up for tamilians. First defend your rights in your own country. (thumbsdown)
 

deltaforce

Senator (1k+ posts)

Thanks Gotti, for raising this critical issue for our brothers and sisters in Tamil Nadu-Desh.

You are indeed a tireless crusader and a valiant champion of the rights of the downtrodden people of Tamil Nadu and elsewhere where the shaivite people of INdia face discrimination.

We pakistanis and the international community stand with you in supporting the rights of any downtrodden people and are ready to discuss this issue on any forum to bring true peace, prosperity and rights to Tamilians.

Thanks once again !
(bigsmile)



wah bhai wah andhe ne dekha aur bahre ne suna.[hilar]

khuda milaai jodi ,ek andha ek kodhi.(bigsmile).....................................[hilar]
 

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