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gottiII

Banned
Read what your darling Sri Lankans are doing. After reading this i am beginning to see why there was a problem between Tamils and Sinhalese to begin with. Your "lack " of ideology is reverberating so loudly that you don't need to use that as an excuse for any plan of yours.

http://dawn.com/2013/03/29/sri-lanka-boosts-security-after-anti-muslim-attack/

I already believe that the Tamils were rightfully claiming "discrimination". I had been following this for months, just like every other news so this is nothing new to me.

This is not a lack of "ideology" because I have been arguing for a free Tamil homeland in that it can only be achieved if Tamil Nadu is freed. Such a small 20 million island nation to be divided by a minority is never going to happen unless the larger, 90 million people take part in it.

I was also the one who told you that they make Sri Lankan Muslims convert before entering the national cricket team like T.M. Dilshan and another player whose name was already announced for the national team and was a Muslim but before making the actual entry into the game, he had to convert to Buddhism.

Furthermore, the only Muslim national player that was acceptable to them was Farveez Maharoof whose father was/is a NASA Scientist (here, I also argued that America is a better place for Muslims than Sri Lanka, yet you morons still hate them).

To add more salt to your wounds (metaphorically), in principle, I do believe that the Tamil cause was just and the Muslims not siding with their terrorist activities was the right way to go about their politics. The Tamils labelled them as traitors and hacked hundreds of them to death in their sleep in Jaffna. This was condemnable and the Sinhala used this to woo in the Bangladeshis, Malaysians and most importantly, the Pakistanis.

I believe they should have supported them morally in a peaceful movement and nothing less, which is also what Jinnah said when he said that the 7% of the Muslims will extend their hands of friendship to the Dravidians if they are given equality and the country is run on the basis of fairplay (something that Periyar had already stated).

In Tamil Nadu, the mood among the Muslims is the same as the Hindus. There is no difference. This is shown by Kamla Hassan, a Brahmin, adopting a Muslim last name out of respect for his friend.

Therefore, they are all Tamilians, first. I have nothing further to add to this as it is already quite clear, I support the freedom for the Tamilians but it can only be achieved with the freedom of Tamil Nadu first, which can later support the referendum in Tamil Eelam (where most Muslims are Tamilians as Sinhalese are too small-minded and radicalized to accept anything "foreign").

In short, you have failed to project by assuming that this is just a ploy of some kind of geopolitics like in India and that I have no sincerity to human rights and especially to those of the Tamilians.

PS. I also don't believe that cricket plays a role in politics but I do believe that it reflects the national psyche, which is why it is clear that the Buddhists are bigoted quite like the Indian Hindutva extremists like yourself.
 
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gottiII

Banned
lol@ gotti
If you go to any Hindu temple, it has Lord ganesha inside it and nandi. Do you know who they are? There are no temples of vishnu as in vishnu. Vishnu is revered in his various forms which include lord krishna, lord rama, balaji, pandurang/ vithal to name a few. In the south shiva's elder son karthikeyan is worshipped. So what the hell are you talking about?

Ganesha was the son of Parvati and Shiva.

Ram was the son of Kaikeyi and a leader of a North Indian kingdom.

You can't fool me, miss.

Vishnu is a never-ending reincarnating "being" but do the Shaivites believe in his avtaars? Yes or No?
 

chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
You have very nicely forgotten that Dravidians are not just tamilians. And everybody is inter-mingled there in. They are asking for justice for tamilians in Sri Lanka, and that is about it. Your claims about "supporting their cause" is laughable because you are living in a tinder box from which if you make it alive, you can perhaps live in some kind of a country resembling a nation. Unlike what you think Hindus are not divided due to any reason. Ethnic issues are common in every diverse country. But when you already have a linguistic state, freedom to do what you want, and are part of a vibrant country making its mark in the world, and proud to be called Indian these distinctions fade away. Most of the Indian states will maintain their uniqueness but will always acknowledge that we share a lot more than we do not share. India's politics keeps changing colours. But Tamil nadu is a place where temples are dedicated to film stars and this is the kind of power the politicians enjoy in Tamil nadu too. And the reason they do not cuss about religion is because there is no need to.
Kamal haasan is also the man who created Hey Ram, Dashavataram, and Vishwaroopam and all this while being an atheist born into a brahmin family. While i can understand that its more peaceful to look outwards than inwards, please do not live in some utopian world of your creation. What i do not understand is this? When you have the power to create, why are you always discussing destruction? There is a need for you to introspect about your motives. A moth flirts with fire, but its fate is known beforehand.

I already believe that the Tamils were rightfully claiming "discrimination". I had been following this for months, just like every other news so this is nothing new to me.

This is not a lack of "ideology" because I have been arguing for a free Tamil homeland in that it can only be achieved if Tamil Nadu is freed. Such a small 20 million island nation to be divided by a minority is never going to happen unless the larger, 90 million people take part in it.

I was also the one who told you that they make Sri Lankan Muslims convert before entering the national cricket team like T.M. Dilshan and another player whose name was already announced for the national team and was a Muslim but before making the actual entry into the game, he had to convert to Buddhism.

Furthermore, the only Muslim national player that was acceptable to them was Farveez Maharoof whose father was/is a NASA Scientist (here, I also argued that America is a better place for Muslims than Sri Lanka, yet you morons still hate them).

To add more salt to your wounds (metaphorically), in principle, I do believe that the Tamil cause was just and the Muslims not siding with their terrorist activities was the right way to go about their politics. The Tamils labelled them as traitors and hacked hundreds of them to death in their sleep in Jaffna. This was condemnable and the Sinhala used this to woo in the Bangladeshis, Malaysians and most importantly, the Pakistanis.

I believe they should have supported them morally in a peaceful movement and nothing less, which is also what Jinnah said when he said that the 7% of the Muslims will extend their hands of friendship to the Dravidians if they are given equality and the country is run on the basis of fairplay (something that Periyar had already stated).

In Tamil Nadu, the mood among the Muslims is the same as the Hindus. There is no difference. This is shown by Kamla Hassan, a Brahmin, adopting a Muslim last name out of respect for his friend.

Therefore, they are all Tamilians, first. I have nothing further to add to this as it is already quite clear, I support the freedom for the Tamilians but it can only be achieved with the freedom of Tamil Nadu first, which can later support the referendum in Tamil Eelam (where most Muslims are Tamilians as Sinhalese are too small-minded and radicalized to accept anything "foreign").

In short, you have failed to project by assuming that this is just a ploy of some kind of geopolitics like in India and that I have no sincerity to human rights and especially to those of the Tamilians.

PS. I also don't believe that cricket plays a role in politics but I do believe that it reflects the national psyche, which is why it is clear that the Buddhists are bigoted quite like the Indian Hindutva extremists like yourself.
 
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chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Haha. There is no need for me to fool you. This is the reality. Difficult for you to swallow perhaps. What is Shaivism according to you? Hahaha. Do you know about the Hindu trinity Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh? This is the trinity of Hindus and it represents the ultimate Brahman. When you are a Hindu, you believe in everything. If i prefer Shiva, that does not mean i do not go to the balaji temple which is in south india. Shiva lived in kailash which is someplace near tibet. Manasarovar is in China. Why would a shiva worshipper in south india have anything to do with him if he was a north south divide believer? Hindu gods and goddesses are pan India. When shiva did the tandav with sati's body held in his hands, vishnu intervened and sati's body parts lay scattered all over the Indian sub continent. Where these parts fell, shakti peeth's have been formed. one of them is in hinglaj, balochistan. Shiva is worshipped pan india and so is vishnu. So come out of your utopia. Hinduism is not divisive. It is inclusive in fact. I am not an extremist. You may consider me to be one since i do not follow your faith or your belief system. That is your choice.

Ganesha was the son of Parvati and Shiva.

Ram was the son of Kaikeyi and a leader of a North Indian kingdom.

You can't fool me, miss.

Vishnu is a never-ending reincarnating "being" but do the Shaivites believe in his avtaars? Yes or No?
 

gottiII

Banned
You have very nicely forgotten that Dravidians are not just tamilians. And everybody is inter-mingled there in.

That is true but it is also true that the only parties with the name Dravidian or are still clinging on to the "cause" are DMK and Anna DMK. Do you need me to tell you what the D stands for?

They are asking for justice for tamilians in Sri Lanka, and that is about it.

So, the Sethusamudram, trashing offices of BJP and the police being North Indian or Brahmin is not their "concern"?

Now, we know that their complaints aren't just hollow just like in Sri Lanka against the Sinhalese. It is clear to whoever might be reading this that the dismissive attitude of the North Indians is real and it truly does exist. Secondly, it is no different than the bigoted approach of their fellow Sanskrit-using Sinhalese.

Your claims about "supporting their cause" is laughable because you are living in a tinder box from which if you make it alive, you can perhaps live in some kind of a country resembling a nation.

Again, with the mockery of the sensitivities of other communities (clap)

We're just going to have to wait and see how long this bigoted attitude keeps the so-called Indian union, united.

Unlike what you think Hindus are not divided due to any reason. Ethnic issues are common in every diverse country. But when you already have a linguistic state, freedom to do what you want, and are part of a vibrant country making its mark in the world, and proud to be called Indian these distinctions fade away. Most of the Indian states will maintain their uniqueness but will always acknowledge that we share a lot more than we do not share. India's politics keeps changing colours. But Tamil nadu is a place where temples are dedicated to film stars and this is the kind of power the politicians enjoy in Tamil nadu too. And the reason they do not cuss about religion is because there is no need to.

A quote from Mr. Karunanidhi,

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi, at a function in Erode on Saturday night, said: "Who is this Raman (as Lord Ram is referred to in Tamil)? In which engineering college did he study and become a civil engineer? When did he build this so-called bridge? Is there any evidence for this?"


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/where-is-proof-ram-built-bridge-asks-karunanidhi/217566

Kamal haasan is also the man who created Hey Ram, Dashavataram, and Vishwaroopam and all this while being a atheist born into a brahmin family.

I was clear in my last post, he is a Brahmin, so no point trying to score points. It's like saying A.R. Rahman made Sufi Music to prove that Tamil Nadu should be part of Pakistan. Religious affiliations have nothing to do with the rights of the people. A.R. Rahman is also a strong Tamil rights activist and speaks against the colonizing Brahmin, North Indian police force of North India.

While i can understand that its more peaceful to look outwards than inwards, please do not live in some utopian world of your creation. What i do not understand is this? When you have the power to create, why are you always discussing destruction? There is a need for you to introspect about your motives. A moth flirts with fire, but its fate is known beforehand.

I am talking about creation. Creation of a more peaceful and strong united Tamil Nadu, which will be the Dubai of the Indian ocean and the peaceful, moderate people of Pakistan and North India will be able to find education, facilities and a civilized environment there to live. They won't have to travel too far or be among people of other ethnicities. The Tamilians have similar interests like cricket and a similar sensitive culture of South Asia.

My motives are what I am telling you very openly in each and every post but it seems to me that you're playing the game that females usually play, don't believe the male counterpart despite his confessions [hilar]
 
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gottiII

Banned
Haha. There is no need for me to fool you. This is the reality. Difficult for you to swallow perhaps. What is Shaivism according to you? Hahaha. Do you know about the Hindu trinity Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh?

Yes, I do know, actually.

This is the trinity of Hindus and it represents the ultimate Brahman. When you are a Hindu, you believe in everything.

Ironically, "Raman" isn't part of the list and neither is the Ramayana, for the Dravidians.


If i prefer Shiva, that does not mean i do not go to the balaji temple which is in south india. Shiva lived in kailash which is someplace near tibet. Manasarovar is in China. Why would a shiva worshipper in south india have anything to do with him if he was a north south divide believer?

I also know about this, ironically enough. What's even more ironic is you trying to show similarities that I have not actually ignored because if I had, I wouldn't be calling it a sect of Hinduism. It has to be accepted as a sect because of the similarities.

You, on the other hand, are adamant about trying to hide the very blatant and obvious differences, which only goes to show your belief in suppressing real and actual pieces of information over what you desire to believe as true.

If you were a neutral and balanced observer, as you are trying to portray (but never claimed because that would be a barefaced lie), you would also consider the differences alongside the similarities that you have been so adamant about sharing.


Hindu gods and goddesses are pan India. When shiva did the tandav with sati's body held in his hands, vishnu intervened and sati's body parts lay scattered all over the Indian sub continent. Where these parts fell, shakti peeth's have been formed. one of them is in hinglaj, balochistan. Shiva is worshipped pan india and so is vishnu. So come out of your utopia. Hinduism is not divisive. It is inclusive in fact. I am not an extremist. You may consider me to be one since i do not follow your faith or your belief system. That is your choice.

Again, I did agree with you on the similarities and that Shiva is accepted from the North to the South but when the South Indians see small, three-foot men, armed with trishuls, on a rampage, destroying the places of worship of other religions whilst chanting "Jai Shri Ram", they go, who is this Raman, exactly?

Even more ironic is their lack of support for the movement that destroyed the Babri Masjid, which was based on a dream of a boy that no one can possibly accept as canonical Hindu belief. They were indifferent because they don't even believe in Raman's existence, let alone accept that place as his Janmabhumi.

To further exponentially increase the irony, while I am already on the path of doing so, I'll remind you that this event was the one that brought the BJP into power from UP, the only state electorate that the Indian parties or establishment cares about because of the number of seats in the state being enough to project a party into power.

Why not care about the Tamilians in the same way?

You only care for them enough to bring yourselves into power. Sometimes it's through the NDA with Amma or UPA with Mr. Karunanidhi. When do you give them or their rights or demands the same importance as you do with U.P.?

Why is it that the language of U.P. is the national or official language of India and not the language of Tamil Nadu?

These are the reasons they are aching for freedom and this is the discrimination I am against, even in Pakistan. It will only be natural for me to support the same in Tamil Nadu and it can only be achieved if they gain independence in a MLK Jr. or Mandela-like peaceful movement (Gandhi is not on the list because he was a North Indian Vaishnavite and only care for their concerns and not of the other Indians like the Tamilians).
 
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chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
This karunanidhi fellow is an atheist. Lots of Indians are atheists and many of them are communists. So his comments do not represent the views of any religion or state. Please try to understand this. He is sort of like salman rushdie. LOL The same treatment that believers give salman rushdie is being given by hindu beleivers to Karunanidhi.
Brahui is also a dravidian language. Do we unite them with their long lost dravidian brothers in India?
Where is the question of being North indian or dismissive here? Nobody can dismiss anybody in India. The Govt. will collapse if they pull out. North India just happens to have our capital there. The politicians sitting there are from all the states of India. This is the beauty of democracy, which unfortunately you haven't had much of. Do not taint others by your paintbrush.
We have our differences, but we are co-existing just fine.
If you make some point that is without doubt true then i will accept it that way. You may have a view but it is wrong. Your belief is colored by what is going on around you. We are all products of our surroundings.


That is true but it is also true that the only parties with the name Dravidian or are still clinging on to the "cause" are DMK and Anna DMK. Do you need me to tell you what the D stands for?



So, the Sethusamudram, trashing offices of BJP and the police being North Indian or Brahmin is not their "concern"?

Now, we know that their complaints aren't just hollow just like in Sri Lanka against the Sinhalese. It is clear to whoever might be reading this that the dismissive attitude of the North Indians is real and it truly does exist. Secondly, it is no different than the bigoted approach of their fellow Sanskrit-using Sinhalese.



Again, with the mockery of the sensitivities of other communities (clap)

We're just going to have to wait and see how long this bigoted attitude keeps the so-called Indian union, united.



A quote from Mr. Karunanidhi,

Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi, at a function in Erode on Saturday night, said: "Who is this Raman (as Lord Ram is referred to in Tamil)? In which engineering college did he study and become a civil engineer? When did he build this so-called bridge? Is there any evidence for this?"


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/where-is-proof-ram-built-bridge-asks-karunanidhi/217566



I was clear in my last post, he is a Brahmin, so no point trying to score points. It's like saying A.R. Rahman made Sufi Music to prove that Tamil Nadu should be part of Pakistan. Religious affiliations have nothing to do with the rights of the people. A.R. Rahman is also a strong Tamils rights activist and speaks against the colonizing Brahmin, North Indian police force of North India.



I am talking about creation. Creation of a more peaceful and strong united Tamil Nadu, which will be the Dubai of the Indian ocean and the peaceful, moderate people of Pakistan and North India will be able to find education, facilities and a civilized environment there to live. They won't have to travel too far or be among people of other ethnicities. The Tamilians have similar interests like cricket and a similar sensitive culture of South Asia.

My motives are what I am telling you very openly in each and every post but it seems to me that you're playing the game that females usually play, don't believe the male counterpart despite his confessions [hilar]
 

gottiII

Banned
This karunanidhi fellow is an atheist. Lots of Indians are atheists and many of them are communists. So his comments do not represent the views of any religion or state. Please try to understand this. He is sort of like salman rushdie. LOL The same treatment that believers give salman rushdie is being given by hindu beleivers to Karunanidhi.


He was elected five-times CM in the state of Tamil Nadu?

Given the infallible Indian democracy that you boast about in places such as Kashmir and North East, are you saying that either the people of Tamil Naad have all become, collectively blashphemers by electing him or are you questioning the system of democracy in India? (doing this will get you down a slippery slope where the claims of the voter turnout in Kashmir and the North East being reflective of the moods of the populations will have to be questioned).

Brahui is also a dravidian language. Do we unite them with their long lost dravidian brothers in India?

Brahui is a Balochi dialect and after all of these years, has become mutually intelligible with it because of the Persian loan words that the Baluch brought in from Sistan va Baluchestan from Iran.

Also, this is irrelevant in that there is no such demand or movement that exists and neither do they identify themselves with being Dravidians like the DMK and Anna DMK that both play musical chairs in the state and have the D stand for Dravida.


Where is the question of being North indian or dismissive here? Nobody can dismiss anybody in India. The Govt. will collapse if they pull out. North India just happens to have our capital there. The politicians sitting there are from all the states of India. This is the beauty of democracy, which unfortunately you haven't had much of. Do not taint others by your paintbrush.

Government will not collapse.

Also, the question of democracy being or not being in Pakistan is not up for debate as the main topic is the system of governance where each government simply gives the Tamils the candy of a few ministries to keep the country going.

No such event is witnessed anywhere in the world where the system of democracy is practiced because democracies usually serve to address people's concerns - not just give them a few ministries to buy them out and silence them or suppress them.

We have our differences, but we are co-existing just fine.

You are, because you don't have to suppress your community or have to explain what the label of "Indian" means. Indian does not represent the people of Tamil Nadu as the label only means or is understood to mean the people of the North.

Had this not been the case, the constitution of India would not have been burnt up until the late 50's and the Tamils would not have been arrested for trying to burn the Indian flag in 2007 in the streets of Chennai.


If you make some point that is without doubt true then i will accept it that way. You may have a view but it is wrong. Your belief is colored by what is going on around you. We are all products of our surroundings.

Whilst I appreciate your affection with the English language, I must also suggest that you need to make your quotes and use of the language, relevant to the point and topic, at hand.
 
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chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Okay now "Raman" is a south Indian prononciation of the word Ram. The Ramayana has references to many places where Ram lived during his exile. And the actual story has happened in south india. Ravana was an erudite brahmin scholar who ruled over Sri Lanka. Because of his sister being insulted he abducted sita and spirited her away to lanka. Deepavali is celebrated in South india , north india, all over india and celebrates the return of Lord Ram after his exile. So the question of whether he is revered or not by dravidians is ridiculous. For an atheist there is no ram or shiva or any god. On the basis of his statement you have made a gross judgmental error. This is like satanic verses.
I already told you i was almost brought up by a tamil brahmin family. The differences are in language, food habits, and that's about it. For a hindu the first god invoked is vinayaka. Even in muslim indonesia vinayaka is invoked.
How can this be explained to you? Its difficult. Hindi is one of our national languages not the only one. We learn 3 languages in school. State language, Hindi, and English. If i live in Tamil Nadu i learn only 2 languages. They do not study hindi by the way. So the choice rests with the state. In maharashtra you have to learn marathi, in karnataka you have to learn kannada, same goes with tamil, malayalam,etc. Hindi depends on the state. If they want to implement it they can or leave it aside.
Gandhi was from gujarat which is a western indian state. What you are calling north india starts from delhi onwards. That is more culturally similar to Pakistan perhaps. The size of the state matters w.r.t how many members from that state make up the lok sabha. So naturally if you are larger you will have more constituencies and consequently more seats. Logical IMO.
Other than that everybody has to look after the running of their states. If somebody wants help, the centre will pitch in. Indian states enjoy freedom to function and they are electing their own people to their assemblies, so where is the question of them not being given their rights? Some states are neglected because the states themselvs are laid back. Finally You need to work at the grassroots level. Like how villagers in maharashtra have learnt to tackle the water problem. Like an Anna Hazare, who fights for India not for Maharashtra we are united in our common problems and equally intent upon maintaining our identities.



Yes, I do know, actually.



Ironically, "Raman" isn't part of the list and neither is the Ramayana, for the Dravidians.




I also know about this, ironically enough. What's even more ironic is you trying to show similarities that I have not actually ignored because if I had, I wouldn't be calling it a sect of Hinduism. It has to be accepted as a sect because of the similarities.

You, on the other hand, are adamant about trying to hide the very blatant and obvious differences, which only goes to show your belief in suppressing real and actual pieces of information over what you desire to believe as true.

If you were a neutral and balanced observer, as you are trying to portray (but never claimed because that would be a barefaced lie), you would also consider the differences alongside the similarities that you have been so adamant about sharing.




Again, I did agree with you on the similarities and that Shiva is accepted from the North to the South but when the South Indians see small, three-foot men, armed with trishuls, on a rampage, destroying the places of worship of other religions whilst chanting "Jai Shri Ram", they go, who is this Raman, exactly?

Even more ironic is their lack of support for the movement that destroyed the Babri Masjid, which was based on a dream of a boy that no one can possibly accept as canonical Hindu belief. They were indifferent because they don't even believe in Raman's existence, let alone accept that place as his Janmabhumi.

To further exponentially increase the irony, while I am already on the path of doing so, I'll remind you that this event was the one that brought the BJP into power from UP, the only state electorate that the Indian parties or establishment cares about because of the number of seats in the state being enough to project a party into power.

Why not care about the Tamilians in the same way?

You only care for them enough to bring yourselves into power. Sometimes it's through the NDA with Amma or UPA with Mr. Karunanidhi. When do you give them or their rights or demands the same importance as you do with U.P.?

Why is it that the language of U.P. is the national or official language of India and not the language of Tamil Nadu?

These are the reasons they are aching for freedom and this is the discrimination I am against, even in Pakistan. It will only be natural for me to support the same in Tamil Nadu and it can only be achieved if they gain independence in a MLK Jr. or Mandela-like peaceful movement (Gandhi is not on the list because he was a North Indian Vaishnavite and only care for their concerns and not of the other Indians like the Tamilians).
 

chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Where is the question of committing blasphemy. I told you they worship their leaders and film stars who may be both at the same time. They are free to elect their leaders. No other indian state has any say or interest in who they elect. National Political parties have a stake because they have to have a coalition govt. when they cannot make a clean sweep. So they keep their options open. And that is required in a country the size of India. We can't get stuck with a hung parliament after having held the biggest ballot on this earth.
Brahui is a dravidian language. Period. No arguments on this. Seen the nose rings worn in both the nostrils in that part of the world? Same thing a tamilian amma does.
Brahui (Urdu: براہوی) or Brahvi (براوی) is a Dravidian language spoken by Brahui people of Pakistan and Afghanistan, and expatriate communities in Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Iraq, and Iran. It is isolated from the nearest Dravidian-speaking neighbour population by a distance of more than 1,500 kilometres (930 mi).[SUP][1][/SUP]


You must have heard of the cricketer rahul dravid. he is not a tamilian. he is a maharashtrian. So dravid is not any brand name restricted to a golden few that you suddenly got enamored with.
When you make so many irrational assumptions, you can jolly well digest some of my gaffes in the english language.



He was elected five-times CM in the state of Tamil Nadu?

Given the infallible Indian democracy that you boast about in places such as Kashmir and North East, are you saying that either the people of Tamil Naad have all become, collectively blashphemers by electing him or are you questioning the system of democracy in India? (doing this will get you down a slippery slope where the claims of the voter turnout in Kashmir and the North East being reflective of the moods of the populations will have to be questioned).



Brahui is a Balochi dialect and after all of these years, has become mutually intelligible with it because of the Persian loan words that the Baluch brought in from Sistan va Baluchestan from Iran.

Also, this is irrelevant in that there is no such demand or movement that exists and neither do they identify themselves with being Dravidians like the DMK and Anna DMK that both play musical chairs in the state and have the D stand for Dravida.




Government will not collapse.

Also, the question of democracy being or not being in Pakistan is not up for debate as the main topic is the system of governance where each government simply gives the Tamils the candy of a few ministries to keep the country going.

No such event is witnessed anywhere in the world where the system of democracy is practiced because democracies usually serve to address people's concerns - not just give them a few ministries to buy them out and silence them or suppress them.



You are, because you don't have to suppress your community or have to explain what the label of "Indian" means. Indian does not represent the people of Tamil Nadu as the label only means or is understood to mean the people of the North.

Had this not been the case, the constitution of India would not have been burnt up until the late 50's and the Tamils would not have been arrested for trying to burn the Indian flag in 2007 in the streets of Chennai.




Whilst I appreciate your affection with the English language, I must also suggest that you need to make your quotes and use of the language, relevant to the point and topic, at hand.
 

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khaas taur par toilet fakir and mulla goti 1,2,3 ki halat chot khaye saanp ya wounded snake jaisi ho rahi hai (bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

purani chot hai shayad 1971 bhool nahi pa rahe.[hilar].....................[hilar].............................[hilar]...................................[hilar]

Please don't try with **** with me over india pakistan... my message was for both indians and pakistanis..... if you want to get into history then I, being a Pakistani, can remind you of all those "Chot" jo shayad indians aaj tak nahi bhoolay.... so please.
 

deltaforce

Senator (1k+ posts)
Please don't try with **** with me over india pakistan... my message was for both indians and pakistanis..... if you want to get into history then I, being a Pakistani, can remind you of all those "Chot" jo shayad indians aaj tak nahi bhoolay.... so please.

sorry for the misunderstanding sir.
sorry boss it was not for gentlemen pakistanis like you . i respect you and all right minded pakistanis . it was for three losers who have some pathological and mental disorder for all things indian . their pathetic and retarded behaviour is quite inviting and demanding such type of treatment.
 

deltaforce

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yaar Admin nai aap ka account delete kia hai... Musharaf ko bhi Joota mara gaya hai.. aur aap hain k Gussa hum pai nikaal rahay hain...(clap)(clap)(clap)


very good , quite true (bigsmile)

abhi poori series gotti ..............9 ...10 . ana baqi hai.(bigsmile)
 

Nazimshah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr Unicorn I know India economy going to shrink more because india provide 20000 prostitutes to Nato army in Afghanistan once they leave at the end of 2014. but i heard that now they start new business wombs are for rent using indian woman for babies factory hahaha shining India ******* stupid.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Mr Unicorn I know India economy going to shrink more because india provide 20000 prostitutes to Nato army in Afghanistan once they leave at the end of 2014. but i heard that now they start new business wombs are for rent using indian woman for babies factory hahaha shining India ******* stupid.

Hahaha you forgot Afia Sidiqui $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
After listening to his latest debate on "times now" i officially declare him an idiot. Moreover you forgot he called Pakistan "Jurassic Park".

He loves to talk too much.


Yaar we are dealing with people who are certified IDIOTS by their own people ...Here read what katju a member of the Press Council of India has to say about Indians [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

90% of Indians are 'idiots', Markandey Katju says


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If you believe in what he said, you should believe in this too. Idiot can turn into intelligent, but can some body in Jurassic Park?

 
Can India become a great power?

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...hobbles-its-ambition-be-force-world-can-india

As a victim of jihadist violence, it is in the front rank of the fight against terrorism. It has a huge and talented diaspora. It may not want to be co-opted by the West but it shares many Western values. It is confident and culturally rich. If it had a permanent Security Council seat (which it has earned by being one of the most consistent contributors to UN peacekeeping operations)
Pakistan is dangerous and unstable, bristling with nuclear weapons, torn apart by jihadist violence and vulnerable to an army command threatened by radical junior officers. Yet India does not think coherently about how to cope. The government hopes that increased trade will improve relations, even as the army plans for a blitzkrieg-style attack across the border. It needs to work harder at healing the running sore of Kashmir and supporting Pakistan’s civilian government. Right now, for instance, Pakistan is going through what should be its first transition from one elected civilian government to the next. India’s prime minister, Manmohan Singh, should support this process by arranging to visit the country’s next leader.
 

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