The Libyan Crisis [Threads Merged]

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Pressure mounts as Qadhafi loses west Libya towns

Response of the world and UN in particular...


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usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Defiant Gaddafi vows to die as martyr, fight revolt

No to all the dictators around the world. They are sick arses who want to rule no matter what happens. If they do something good they will undo it with the bad they have done. No room for these dictators. Humans are not animals to be ruled by any one with power. They can be ruled by the rules they set for themself. Thats it.
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Pressure mounts as Qadhafi loses west Libya towns

i will just say one liner.

ghaddafi has made situation worst. he will have to go.
 

sarmad

Senator (1k+ posts)
Saif Gaddafi(Gaddafi's Son) filmed arming militias in Libya!


Translation:
Saif -- guys, guys, listen, listen We need high spirits [More chanting]
Saif: Listen, listen brothers, the people have said the police force have joined the protesters, but today we will prove the opposite (Context -- Saif is hinting at an idea -- to equip his supporters with police clothing and request them to enter the protests undercover.)
Saif: Do you need weapons?!
Saif: One minute please, you will receive all the support, all the facilities and weapons etc. Everything will be okay, and you will be victorious.
Saif: 'Today we're not inviting you for rice & meat' (Libyan saying meaning: we mean business). This is what I want to tell you today.'
Saif- listen, listen, this is your country ... now we shall leave, and you have all the backing. But your country [unknown word] Italians. The protesters you confront are nothing; they are bums, brats and druggies. Today brothers, Tripoli that you live in, will be cleared (of protesters).
Saif: I shall leave now, and I will send you weapons. Tonight I will return with more people and weapons.
 

dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saif Gaddafi(Gaddafi's Son) filmed arming militias in Libya!

InshaAllah ye zalim saif usi tarah Mara jaiy ga jaisey saddam shaytaan Kay baitey maarey gaey thay.
 

alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Saif Gaddafi(Gaddafi's Son) filmed arming militias in Libya!

kitny afsos ke bat he sab Allah pak ka name ley ker 1 dosry ko qatal ker rahye he , usa tu sahee mazy may he us ka aslaha tu khob bik raha hoo ga, Allah hamari halat per reham farmaye or zalmoo say nijat dealaye
 

sarmad

Senator (1k+ posts)
Libyan Opposition reject 'weapons' from United States

This revolution will be completed by our people

The Libyan opposition has asserted that it is fully capable of toppling Muammar Qadhafi, rebuffing calls from influential quarters in Washington for weapon supplies to hasten the collapse of the regime.

The apparent ambitions of the United States to exercise early control over a nascent shadow leadership and the patriotic aspirations of the opposition for a united Libya seemed to have collided on Sunday. At a press conference in Benghazi to announce the formation of the Libyan National Transitional Council, Abdel-Hafidh Ghoga, who described himself as the organisation's spokesman, said the opposition could do without American intervention in its affairs.

We are against any foreign intervention or military intervention in our internal affairs, said Mr. Ghoga. This revolution will be completed by our people with the liberation of the rest of Libyan territory controlled by Qadhafi's forces.

Mr. Ghoga, a human rights lawyer, confirmed that around 2,000 volunteers had left for Tripoli by-passing Surt, Mr. Qadhafi's hometown, by taking a desert detour of hundreds of kilometres.

Mr. Qadhafi retains his stranglehold over most of Tripoli city, but the suburb of Tajoura, where protesters on Sunday chanted that they would prevail, has become restive. In the coastal city of Mistrata, dissidents repelled a pro-government assault.

Mr. Ghoga's emphasis on self-reliance followed remarks by the U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton offering dissidents any kind of assistance. Appearing on CNN, U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman compared the Libyan situation to the one in the Balkans in the 1990s when the U.S. intervened to stop a genocide against Bosnians. And the first we did was to provide them the arms to defend themselves. That's what I think we ought to do in Libya.

But reinforcing Mr. Ghoga's contention, and asserting that Libya was different, a former Libyan General with the opposition, Ahmed El-Gatrani, stressed foreign military support was unnecessary.

We don't need foreign help as we moved on our own, on orders from no one outside.

General Gatrani said that the opposition was also protecting Libya's precious oil resources, including the oil and product terminals of El-Brega and Ras Lanuf. New York Times is quoting Hassan Bulifa, who is on the committee of the Arabian Gulf Oil Company, the country's largest oil producer, that the company had resumed oil shipments on Sunday. It had loaded two tankers one bound for China and another for Austria at a port in Tobruk

Analysts say the U.S. inclination to work with a hastily formed provisional government that would fill the political vacuum in Tripoli following Mr. Qadhafi's anticipated exit was also not being appreciated in Benghazi. Mr. Ghoga rejected the call by Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, a former Justice Minister, to establish a provisional government that would prepare for elections in three months. It's premature to talk about elections because we have a capital under siege, he observed.
 

sarmad

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Libyan Opposition reject 'weapons' from United States

How nice of the United States to offer weapons to the guys who control the oil in Libya...

And well done for the opposition for telling the Americans where to stick their help...

Accept the help then you accept a debt...

Dont let the Americans take away your revolution...
 

faqira786

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Libyan Opposition reject 'weapons' from United States

Western are taking over all muslim resources in IRAQ, Saudia, Libya, Bahrainm, Afghanuistan and all others countries. What a shame on US
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Libyan Opposition reject 'weapons' from United States

Americans are shameless creatures.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
حالات کی خرابی کا ذمہ دار القائدہ ہے - قذافی

امریکہ نے دنیا کو اچھا رستہ دیکھایا ہے، سو ناکامیوں کا ایک علاج - القائدہ

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mimran301

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Everybody is watching: Muammar Gaddafi - Zenga Zenga Song


Since he said, he will not let Libya tremble in the hands of Al-Quida like, i.e Afghanistan or Pakistan. Many voices roared in Pakistani press and electronic media to change the name of Gaddafi Stadium, back to Lahore Stadium. I think very soon we have to change the name of Faisalabad city, back to Lyallpur(after the name of its founder Sir Charles James Lyall) and so on for Faisal Mosque( back to Islamabad Masjid). Because of simple reason ; it is time of democracy in arab world. The King is dead. Long live the King.
 

pakhtoon pardesi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: حالات کی خرابی کا ذمہ دار القائدہ ہے - قذاف&#174

This is really a Bizarree guy. Some times say USA is involved, sometimes say Alqaieda. I wonder how this fool ruled for 40 yrs on Libyan people??
 

Bangash

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: حالات کی خرابی کا ذمہ دار القائدہ ہے - قذاف&

This is really a Bizarree guy. Some times say USA is involved, sometimes say Alqaieda. I wonder how this fool ruled for 40 yrs on Libyan people??


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الله سب سے بہتر پلان بنانے والا ہے. اب دجال کے سیسٹم بنانے والوں کو پتا ہے کہ ان کا خاتمہ ہونے والا ہے تو وہ ایک نیا پلان بنا رہے ہیں. مقصد صرف ایک ہی ہے ساری دنیا پر حکومت کرنا
 
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sergeant

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dancer earned millions on Birthday party of Saadi Gaddafi

Former nightclub dancer reveals how she had a 'crazy' six-year fling with Gaddafi's son and watched as he blew millions
By MATT SANDY
Last updated at 12:45 PM on 6th March 2011
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Claims he kept suitcases stuffed with bank notes and spent 170m in a single year
He paid 500,000 for the Pussycat Dolls to perform live at his birthday party
Allegedly got wildly drunk, offered her cocaine and beat up his servants
Gleaming in a 5,000 white suit, the wealthy young Arab sat mesmerised as he watched a striking dancer gyrate at the Pink Paradise club in Paris. The girl turned and her long chestnut hair caught in a candle, setting it on fire.

Paranoid: Saadi and Dafinka in the only picture she has of them, taken on Safari in Tanzania
The Arab waved desperately to alert her, saving her from serious damage.
The unlikely Samaritan was Saadi Gaddafi, the then 31-year-old third son of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
The girl, Bulgarian Dafinka Mircheva, then 21, says it was the start of a six-year relationship that gives a fascinating insight into his family.
Today, as Saadi helps his father cling to power in Libya in his role as an army colonel, she discloses how he squandered millions on his breathtakingly extravagant lifestyle.
Dafinka says his aides told her he spent 170million a year on private jets, five-star hotels, supercars, lap-dancers, jewels and designer clothes.
Money was no object, she says. He would always have a black suitcase stuffed with thousands of banknotes.
If he ran out, he would call the embassy and they would have more delivered to his hotel.
She says he began a prolonged pursuit of her after that first meeting in 2004 lavishing her with gifts and proposals of marriage despite having a wife, the daughter of a commander in the Libyan military.
After she finally agreed to date him, Dafinka says Saadi paid 500,000 for her favourite pop group, The Pussycat Dolls, to perform for her at his birthday party in Cannes in the South of France.
She even made him help secure the release of six Bulgarian nurses being held in Libya, accused of plotting to infect 400 children with HIV.
But she says she also experienced the familys darker side and his servants claimed he slapped them. I have no friends, only servants, he told her.
Dafinka says Saadi was banned from several five-star hotels and claims that once she walked in on the practising Muslim in bed with another man. Another time, she says he offered her cocaine. She also found him to be like an immature if spoilt child, who begged her constantly to love him and enjoyed nothing more than taking his entourage to Disneyland Paris.
She has provided letters apparently from Saadi and a photo of them on a safari trip. Her story is also backed by a leaked U.S. diplomatic cable posted on the WikiLeaks website.
Written by then-U.S. ambassador to Libya in 2009, it stated: Saadi has a troubled past, including scuffles with police in Europe (especially Italy), abuse of drugs and alcohol, excessive partying [and] travel abroad in contravention of his fathers wishes.
The couple are an unlikely match. She was born to modest parents, a glass-maker and civil servant, in communist Bulgaria. He is the third child of eight born to Libyas all-powerful ruler.

Chased: Dafinka says Saadi Gaddafi pursued her for six years but she refused to have sex, which 'drove him mad'
But on an evening in May 2004, for very different reasons, they were both at the Pink Paradise club in a Paris business district.
Dafinka, who goes by the stage name Nikki, recalls: I was dancing on the stage and as I turned I saw him sitting there, in a white suit with blonde highlights in his hair, just staring at me.
For Saadi, it seems, it was love at first sight. Within minutes of being introduced, she says he agreed to pay 1,000-an-hour to talk to her in a private room but he never asked her to undress.
She says: He ordered Baileys for me and a gin and tonic and at first was coy about who he was. I had to tease it out of him. Eventually he told me his name was Gaddafi. Despite only knowing me for a few hours, he then asked me to go with him to the Caribbean the next day on his jet.
Shocked, she says she refused. He promised to return.
I was dancing on the stage and as I turned I saw him sitting there, in a white suit with blonde highlights in his hair, just staring at me.
A bizarre courtship began. Dafinka says Saadi would return to Paris by private jet every few weeks to woo her. He was playing football in Italy for Perugia, an ill-fated spell in the country that saw him signed by three clubs but barely play a match.
In Paris, she says he would hire two black limousines and a team of bodyguards. He would book a suite at the 3,500-a-night George V or Plaza Athenee hotels.
She says he would always have an entourage of at least half-a-dozen including his manservant Langy. At the club he would sit with her for hours. But, for more than a year, she says she would not agree to date him.



She says: He was sweet, like a ten-year-old. He told me he was coming to Paris purely to see me. He would see me for three hours and beg me to go out with him. But I was worried about security, that something might happen to me. I was worried about his enemies and worried about him.
Dafinka says he gave her a love letter on George V hotel notepaper which reads: I fly with wings of love to you . . . I dont want to lose this feeling . . . you waked me from inside after long time.
Within a few months, says Dafinka, he gave her 20,000 of Bulgari jewellery earrings, a ring and necklace made of white gold and studded with diamonds. Still she refused to date him.
She recalls: Then, even though we were not even dating, he asked me to marry him. He said his father would not like it and it would be difficult while he was still alive but he still wanted to do it. I started to have feelings for him.
'Its a long time for someone to keep asking you out. After nearly a year and a half where nothing had happened to me, I felt safer.
In October 2005, she agreed to a date. They saw the action film Four Brothers, starring Mark Wahlberg, at a 7 cinema on the Champs-Elysees.
He held my hand, says Dafinka.

Keen hunter: Saadi (left) with an impala he shot while on safari
Soon after, she says he promised her 50,000 (43,000) as a gift.
Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday show a payment of 50,000 from an account in the British Virgin Islands. Later Saadi bought her a 25,000 Audemars Piguet watch.
Dafinka recalls: After we started going out he came to Paris less frequently. We would go shopping or stay in his hotel suite and he would get drunk.
We sometimes slept in the same bed and kissed but I never had sex with him. I didnt want to as I knew he would sleep with lots of women. And I knew the closer I got to him the more difficult it would be for me and that still scared me. It drove him mad.
In his room were black leather suitcases full of cash. He would have 150,000 at any one time.
She says he bought her 25,000 designer dresses and spent 10,000 on dinner at Raspoutine, a Russian restaurant in Paris. He is said to have owned a purple Bugatti Veyron road car worth 1million.
Saadi will never look at the price. He doesnt care. Someone else always pays the bill.
She says his stays at hotels like the George V and Plaza Athenee were notorious.
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'Sweet': Love letters Dafinka says Saadi Gaddafi sent her on George V hotel headed notepaper
He would always have the biggest suite and pay for rooms for his servants. He would get very drunk and play loud music in the middle of the night. The rapper 50 Cent was his favourite.
He loved vampire films and he sent a servant out to buy lamb ribs at 2am so he could cook them himself in the room. Other guests would complain about the noise and I believe he got banned from those hotels. Now he stays at Le Meurice, which has a soundproofed suite.
Neither the George V or Plaza Athenee would comment on the claim that he was banned.
Dafinka claims her proximity to Saadi meant she saw both sides of his personality the spoilt, autocratic multi-millionaire who considers himself royalty and the emotionally stunted boy.
His entourage were mainly Libyans. He would call them all his servants. I told him many times not to tell people that. He told me, I do what I want. I want to call them servants.
Sometimes he would slap them. He was quite good with me but with others he didnt care. Once, he found a beggar in the centre of Paris and took him back to his hotel to entertain him.
He would always have the biggest suite and pay for rooms for his servants. He would get very drunk and play loud music in the middle of the night. The rapper 50 Cent was his favourite.'
He would insist on being called Engineer Saadi. His brother would always be Doctor Mutassim.
Another time, I went to his room at Plaza Athenee and found him sleeping in bed with another man. They were under the covers and their top halves were naked. I also saw him take drugs but only once. It was in the private room of a club and he offered me cocaine.
Other times, especially when they were alone, she says he could be sweet and childish.
He could be very funny. When you know how to handle him, he is like a baby.
He loved Disneyland Paris and would often take a group there, once buying them all Pirates of the Caribbean T-shirts and demanding they wear them, like it or not.
Soon she decided to exploit these vulnerabilities for a positive end.
In 2006 he was still bugging me to marry him. Normally if I mentioned his father or his wife, this would put him off. But he kept coming back and begging me. So I gave him an ultimatum: I would like him to free the Bulgarian nurses.
In 1999, Gaddafis regime had arrested six Bulgarian nurses and accused them of being agents of Israels Mossad agents who planned to infect 400 children with HIV.

Like father, like son: Despite his connections, Saadi did not like talking about his family, including his father, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi
Dafinka says: It was widely seen as a conspiracy theory on Gaddafis part but his son seemed to believe it. But he said to show how much he loved me he would talk to his brother Saif, who was dealing with the case. Eventually he told me they would be freed during 2007, which they were. To this day I dont know if they were released because of me or if they were going to be released anyway.
At the time, it was reported they had been freed after a mission to Libya by Cecilia Sarkozy, then wife of French President Nicolas.
The most extravagant gift was yet to come.
In early 2007, he asked me who my favourite band were. I said The Pussycat Dolls. He said he would organise it so I could see them.
For his birthday, she says he rented a 8,000-a-day Arabic-style villa in Cannes. As 30 guests enjoyed Cristal champagne, Lentre chocolates, caviar and cigars, The Pussycat Dolls played in front of the pool.
Two years later, the Dafinka and Saadi visited Tanzania for a week-long safari, staying in 600-a-night lodges. She says: He killed an impala. I remember him asking, What other gaming do you have for royalty? He saw himself as the son of a king.
It is from this trip that she has the only photo of them together. She says: He is a very paranoid person. He doesnt like pictures.
She adds: If you asked him about his family, he would get angry. If his father closed the tap there would be no money, so he is not going to say anything bad. Once, his wife came to Paris and he put her in one hotel and he stayed in a second.
After Saadi stopped playing football in Italy he made just two substitute appearances in four years with three Serie A clubs Dafinka saw less of him and they grew apart.
She says: When we saw each other last year he was moody and refused to talk. I have no idea why. I last saw him in November. With whats happening in Libya, I dont expect to hear from him again.
'I feel bad for the people there. If they want freedom, give them freedom. Isnt 41 years enough? But I do not link Saadi to what is happening there. It is his father who is doing all the damage.
On learning how Saadi has been spending their money, most Libyans will doubtless violently disagree.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363413/My-crazy-year-fling-Gaddafi-s-son.html#ixzz1Fqbk5b8g
 

sergeant

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Dancer earned millions on Birthday party of Saadi Gaddafi

I have read all story about Saadi Gaddafi, how he was spending (He paid 500,000 for the Pussycat Dolls to perform live at his birthday party) and 170 Million pound in a single year.
This is a true picture of a ******* Leader’s son activities, how he was enjoying with dancing girls with country wealth which should be spend on people welfare of Libya.
This is actual reason of Muslim UMMA leader Humiliation. A leader should be role model for people but these dirty faces are unfit for ruling of Muslim Umma. People are on right direction to kick out these dirty figures from power.
All Muslim Rulers and specially Pakistani Political Mafia should make their direction valid by spending public exchequer on public welfare not on their family functions…. I assure them if they started with honesty spending on public welfare Projects and stop to support family by illegal money or national exchequer, will give you respect and power for long time….
 

Young

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Dancer earned millions on Birthday party of Saadi Gaddafi

First time i am looking today tht Swedish TV is having news tht most of things against Gadhafi is propoganda. Its amazing but other channels in Europe and America is still the same against him.

How is funding this malayshia which is fighting against Gadhafi so much money and they r giving on training for every man and after one week training they will fight against Gadhafi. one other Qabila which is fighting against him which was in biggest population in second biggest city in Libya. They want power now. its not revolution only finishing this country Libya.
God bless Gashafi and Libya
 

FaisalLatif

Councller (250+ posts)
US asks Saudi Arabia to arm Libyan Rebels with US weapons

America's secret plan to arm Libya's rebels

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi
By Robert Fisk, Middle East Correspondent

Monday, 7 March 2011






Saudi Arabia has not yet responded to a request from the US to supply weapons to rebels in Libya .

Desperate to avoid US military involvement in Libya in the event of a prolonged struggle between the Gaddafi regime and its opponents, the Americans have asked Saudi Arabia if it can supply weapons to the rebels in Benghazi. The Saudi Kingdom, already facing a "day of rage" from its 10 per cent Shia Muslim community on Friday, with a ban on all demonstrations, has so far failed to respond to Washington's highly classified request, although King Abdullah personally loathes the Libyan leader, who tried to assassinate him just over a year ago.

Washington's request is in line with other US military co-operation with the Saudis. The royal family in Jeddah, which was deeply involved in the Contra scandal during the Reagan administration, gave immediate support to American efforts to arm guerrillas fighting the Soviet army in Afghanistan in 1980 and later – to America's chagrin – also funded and armed the Taliban.

But the Saudis remain the only US Arab ally strategically placed and capable of furnishing weapons to the guerrillas of Libya. Their assistance would allow Washington to disclaim any military involvement in the supply chain – even though the arms would be American and paid for by the Saudis.

The Saudis have been told that opponents of Gaddafi need anti-tank rockets and mortars as a first priority to hold off attacks by Gaddafi's armour, and ground-to-air missiles to shoot down his fighter-bombers.

Supplies could reach Benghazi within 48 hours but they would need to be delivered to air bases in Libya or to Benghazi airport. If the guerrillas can then go on to the offensive and assault Gaddafi's strongholds in western Libya, the political pressure on America and Nato – not least from Republican members of Congress – to establish a no-fly zone would be reduced.

US military planners have already made it clear that a zone of this kind would necessitate US air attacks on Libya's functioning, if seriously depleted, anti-aircraft missile bases, thus bringing Washington directly into the war on the side of Gaddafi's opponents.

For several days now, US Awacs surveillance aircraft have been flying around Libya, making constant contact with Malta air traffic control and requesting details of Libyan flight patterns, including journeys made in the past 48 hours by Gaddafi's private jet which flew to Jordan and back to Libya just before the weekend.

Officially, Nato will only describe the presence of American Awacs planes as part of its post-9/11 Operation Active Endeavour, which has broad reach to undertake aerial counter-terrorism measures in the Middle East region.

The data from the Awacs is streamed to all Nato countries under the mission's existing mandate. Now that Gaddafi has been reinstated as a super-terrorist in the West's lexicon, however, the Nato mission can easily be used to search for targets of opportunity in Libya if active military operations are undertaken.
Al Jazeera English television channel last night broadcast recordings made by American aircraft to Maltese air traffic control, requesting information about Libyan flights, especially that of Gaddafi's jet.

An American Awacs aircraft, tail number LX-N90442 could be heard contacting the Malta control tower on Saturday for information about a Libyan Dassault-Falcon 900 jet 5A-DCN on its way from Amman to Mitiga, Gaddafi's own VIP airport.

Nato Awacs 07 is heard to say: "Do you have information on an aircraft with the Squawk 2017 position about 85 miles east of our [sic]?"

Malta air traffic control replies: "Seven, that sounds to be Falcon 900- at flight level 340, with a destination Mitiga, according to flight plan."

But Saudi Arabia is already facing dangers from a co-ordinated day of protest by its own Shia Muslim citizens who, emboldened by the Shia uprising in the neighbouring island of Bahrain, have called for street protests against the ruling family of al-Saud on Friday.

After pouring troops and security police into the province of Qatif last week, the Saudis announced a nationwide ban on all public demonstrations.

Shia organisers claim that up to 20,000 protesters plan to demonstrate with women in the front rows to prevent the Saudi army from opening fire.

If the Saudi government accedes to America's request to send guns and missiles to Libyan rebels, however, it would be almost impossible for President Barack Obama to condemn the kingdom for any violence against the Shias of the north-east provinces.

Thus has the Arab awakening, the demand for democracy in North Africa, the Shia revolt and the rising against Gaddafi become entangled in the space of just a few hours with US military priorities in the region.

Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...secret-plan-to-arm-libyas-rebels-2234227.html
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: US asks Saudi Arabia to arm Libian Rebels with US weapons

Trouble in Saudi coming up so the so-called Royal family better prepare for the worst! American boots in the kingdom means WW3!
 

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