Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: "You in Zawiya turn to Bin Laden," ......"They give you drugs." Gaddafi.

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Protesters chant anti-government slogans in a square in Benghazi city. ((Asmaa Waguih/Reuters))

So these all are being druged? why all these dictaotors think alike?
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Gadhafi familys web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeaks !!!

Gadhafi familys web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeaks

Published On Wed Feb 23 2011
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Juventus team Captain Alessandro Del Piero (L), teammate Alessandro Birindelli (C) and Gadhafi's son Al-Saadi Gadhafi's (R front) pose with the Supercup trophy in Tripoli, August 25, 2002.
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Karin Laub Associated Press










CAIROThe children of Moammar Gadhafi were increasingly engaged in recent months in covering up scandals fit for a Libyan soap opera, including negative publicity from extravagant displays of wealth, such as a million-dollar private concert by pop diva Beyonc, according to a new batch of secret diplomatic cables released Wednesday.
The assessments by U.S. diplomats were published by the secre-spilling website WikiLeaks as Gadhafi vowed to fight to the last drop of blood to put down an uprising against his 42-year rule of the North African nation. At least 300 protesters are believed to have been killed by pro-government forces in the past week of clashes.
Growing anger over crass behaviour by Gadhafis offspring, such as son Hannibals 2008 arrest for beating servants in a hotel in Switzerland, may have helped spark the current uprising. The family has been in a tailspin recently, a cable assessed a year ago.
The diplomats at the U.S. Embassy in the Libyan capital of Tripoli describe how Gadhafis children have carved out spheres of influence, seemingly treating the country as their personal fiefdom.
Muhammad, the oldest son, dominated telecommunications, another son, Muatassim, was National Security Adviser, Hannibal was influential in maritime shipping, Khamis commanded a top military unit, while daughter Aisha ran a quasi-governmental organization. Another son, Saadi, was given the job of setting up an Export Free Trade Zone in western Libya.
Seif al-Islam Gadhafi cultivated a respectable image as Libyas face to the West, and had locals rallying for him to be heir-apparent, the 2010 cable said. However, that image may well have been destroyed in a single instant earlier this week when he went on TV to threaten anti-government protesters with civil war if they persisted.
The familys unchecked control in Libya is highlighted in a July 2008 embassy report that Muatassim put pressure on the chairman of the National Oil Corp., Shukri Ghanem, to give him $1.2 billion in cash and oil shipments. Ghanem told a confidant at the time he was considering resigning because he feared Muatassim could seek revenge if he wasnt paid, a 2008 cable said.
The confidant described Gadhafis children as thugs, saying that no one can cross or refuse such people without suffering consequences, particularly when the matter is to do with money, the cable said.
Another 2008 dispatch noted that government funding was used to capitalize Hannibals maritime transportation company. The close integration of private and public interests in many of Libyas key economic entities became apparent when Libya quickly halted oil shipments in response to his detention in Geneva over the alleged beating of the servants.
Two years later, a cable cited reports that Hannibal physically abused his wife, Aline.
In 2009, Aline had threatened to leave Hannibal and fled to London, the cable said. Hannibal pursued Aline in London, and the encounter ended in assault, the cable said. Hannibals mother, Safiya, and sister, Aisha, then persuaded Aline to report to police that she had been hurt in an accident and not mention abuse, according to the diplomats.
Saadi was described as having a troubled past, including run-ins with police in Europe, drug and alcohol abuse, and excessive partying, a 2009 cable said. It was an important objective for the regime to create the appearance of useful employment for Gadhafis children, the report said.
Flaunting of wealth was starting the hurt the familys image, the diplomats said. They noted that Muatassim kicked off 2010 the same way he spent 2009 with a New Years Eve trip to St. Barts reportedly featuring copious amounts of alcohol and a million-dollar personal concert courtesy of Beyonc, Usher, and other musicians.
The family has provided local observers with enough dirt for a Libyan soap opera, the 2010 cable concluded.
The diplomats also noted acute discord among the Gadhafi siblings. The growing rivalries in the absence of a succession mechanism and amid rumours of Gadhafis health problems could play an important, if not determinative role, in whether the family is able to hold on to power after the author of the revolution exits the political scene, a 2009 dispatch said.
Still, Gadhafi still remains very much in control, despite his carefully crafted image as an aloof philosopher-king, a cable said.
The dictator is intimately involved in the most important work, such as vetting business deals involving public funds to ensure that opportunities to extract rents from those contracts are distributed to key regime allies, the diplomats observed.(http://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...y-s-web-of-greed-nepotism-rivalries-wikileaks)
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Obama Prepares Invasion Of Libya Under Humanitarian Cover

Hail Obama the Jewish d.o.g
Hail the Globalists.
Hail the Greater Israel.
 

wanderer

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Obama Prepares Invasion Of Libya Under Humanitarian Cover

I was already thinking why international community is not stopping human rights violation in libya. i support invasion in Libya otherwise Gaddafi will kill all his opponents. It has become necessary.


Put Pakistan in the place of Libya ?? Would u sit idle while US decided to take over Pakistan ??? NO !! Then dont wish bad for others, what you cant live with.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Obama Prepares Invasion Of Libya Under Humanitarian Cover

The world is a "global village" and America wants to be the "global wadaira", i think America should stop being the 'thekedaar' of the world.

First they plant the seeds of a problem, when it starts growing they come to uproot it and plant new seeds:
They back Taliban, and after a few decades they say its enough, setup Qarzai puppet show.
They back Musharraf, and after 8 years they say its enough, setup Zardari puppet show.
They back Qaddafi, and after 3 decades they say its enough, setup "XYZ" puppet show.

Well said!
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Obama Prepares Invasion Of Libya Under Humanitarian Cover

I don't know why we are admiring this USA + Israel Sponsor Revolution. Don't you people remember about the re-mapping of Arab world Geographic boundaries. They divide Sudan into two parts. For a moment If I accept it is revolution in Egypt, can anybody tel me what changed after Husni Departure. Fresh Army General take controlled of Egypt who is very happy with Israel and USA.

By the way Libya and Iran are not pro-american countries why there same sort of things start happening.

I smell the smoke of big fire on Muslims, beware of Dajal weapons !!!!!!!

I agree with you Bro.
 

lotaparty

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Obama Prepares Invasion Of Libya Under Humanitarian Cover

Put Pakistan in the place of Libya ?? Would u sit idle while US decided to take over Pakistan ??? NO !! Then dont wish bad for others, what you cant live with.

America will never attack on Pakistan because America is Pakistan's friend. Americans have been giving aid to Pakistan since 1947. America is one of the top 3 friends of Pakistan.

1. China
2. United states of America
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Turkey

http://www.usaid.gov/pk/
 

Young

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Gadhafi familys web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeaks !!!

Here is his family.

  • His eldest son, Muhammad al-Gaddafi, was born to a wife now in disfavour, but runs the Libyan Olympic Committee.
  • The next eldest son, by his second wife Safia, is Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi, who was born in 1972 and is an architect. He runs a charity (GIFCA) which has been involved in negotiating freedom for hostages taken by Islamic militants, especially in the Philippines. In 2006, after sharply criticizing his father's regime, Saif Al-Islam briefly left Libya, reportedly to take on a position in banking outside of the country. He returned to Libya soon after, launching an environment-friendly initiative to teach children how they can help clean up parts of Libya. He is involved in compensation negotiations with Italy and the United States.
  • The third eldest, Saadi Gaddafi, is married to the daughter of a military commander. Saadi runs the Libyan Football Federation and signed for various professional teams including Italian Serie A team U.C. Sampdoria, although without appearing in first team games.
  • Gaddafi's fourth son, Moatessem-Billal Gaddafi, was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Libyan Army. He now serves as Libya's National Security Advisor, in which capacity he oversees the nation's National Security Council. His name مُعْتَصِمٌ (بِٱللّٰهِ) /muʿtaṣimu-n (bi l-lāhi)/ can be latinized as Mutassim, Moatessem or Moatessem-Billah. Saif Al-Islam and Moatessem-Billah are both seen as possible successors to their father.[citation needed]
  • The fifth eldest, Hannibal Muammar Gaddafi, once worked for General National Maritime Transport Company, a company that specializes in Libyan oil exports. Gaddafi's two youngest sons are Saif Al Arab and Khamis. Khamis is a police officer in Libya.
  • Gaddafi's only daughter is Ayesha al-Gaddafi, a lawyer who had joined the defense teams of executed former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and Iraqi journalist Muntadhar al-Zaidi.[102] She married a cousin of her father in 2006.
  • His adopted daughter, Hanna, was killed in the April 1986 United States bombing of Libya. At a "concert for peace", held on 15 April 2006 in Tripoli to mark the 20th anniversary of the bombing raid, U.S. singer Lionel Richie told the audience:
"Hanna will be honoured tonight because of the fact that you've attached peace to her name."
  • His adopted son, Milad Abuztaia Al-Gaddafi is also his nephew. Milad is credited with saving Gaddafi's life during the April 1986 bombing of the Gaddafi compound.
The family's main residence is on the Bab al-Azizia military barracks, located in the southern suburbs of Tripoli.
Gaddafi holds an honorary degree from Megatrend University in Belgrade conferred on him by former Yugoslav President Zoran Lilić.
 

Young

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Gadhafi familys web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeaks !!!

Allah bless Gadhafi and his family. America will not be succesful in his mission. Libya cannot find a leader better than him. They have not any economic issues. Everything is free there, medical, government facilities, education, higher GDP. low unemployement. Thts why no body is saying that they have any economic issues. THEY HAVE ECONOMY BETTER THAN USA. if he is dictator or not, people of Libya getting wht they wants. Offcourse 100% cant be satisfied.
 

Muhammad Tauseef A. Bajwa

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Gadhafi family’s web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeaks !!!

Re: Gadhafi family’s web of greed, nepotism, rivalries: WikiLeek

The assessments by U.S. diplomats to damage Muammar Al-Gaddafi stature were published by the secrete-spilling website WikiLeaks as Gaddafi vowed to fight to the “last drop of blood” to put down an uprising against his 42-year rule of the North African nation. At least 300 protesters are believed to have been killed by pro-government forces in the past week of clashes and the growing anger over crass behavior by Gaddafi’s offspring,

If subject claims are seriously taken into account ironically then, the character of Libyan Leader Muammar Al-Gaddafi becomes more heroic and perpetuated as against his taourishig image the U.S. is bent upon showing the World with the support of Western Media and U.S. Diplomats assessments. Crux is that, which all saviors of humanity failed to realize that he is the same Muammar Al-Gaddafi who had given his countrymen/women all basic things with impartiality a perdurable system of free food, hearth & shelter, education and jobs for all with an equal dignity for more than 42 years? Muammar’s tower of strength is unimaginable! Are the protestors killing any way nearer to what the World had seen in U.S. Occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan?

By same criterion they must broke their silence about Saudi Monarch’s, Husaine Mubbarak and similar others whose deeds are noticeable even to born blinds. These are real sinister and U.S. should have come forward to nip their evil in bud but Crux is that the Championing of Human Rights and Democracy overlooked for decades and instead gave them their esteem cooperation and an abetment support.

Couldn't find any solid material substantiating the trampling claim that Muammar Qaddafi’s family is a web of greed, nepotism, rivalries etc. Those who had some better source and authentic information on Muammar Qaddafi family loot and plunder should come forward or dump such defaming allegations once for all
 
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adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

i salute these soldiers that not only they sacrificed their jobs but their lives as well for the betterment and change of system .
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

what do think if pakistan army would b in this place what would they have done . i think they wouldnt take a second to kill citizens as they already are doing
 

mush_dewana

Banned
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

what do think if pakistan army would b in this place what would they have done . i think they wouldnt take a second to kill citizens as they already are doing
No need to assume they are now welltrained in this domain
But now they will ask for more $ before going to open fire

ARMY ZINDABAAAAAAAAAAD
Pak Army ka kom ko order
baita jaldi se baree ho jaoo taka tumhain mar ker yaa baich ker ham apni ayashian keraan
Bachay kam badhaal army
 

Young

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

Its only propoganda from USA media and his supporters in Pak. In libya only tripoli is in Gadhafi controll which will control the opposition party today, how they can happens this. Its only propoganda against Gadhafi and they want to kill him like a Saddam. Salute to Gadhafis death.
 

yasir1981

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

what do think if pakistan army would b in this place what would they have done . i think they wouldnt take a second to kill citizens as they already are doing
I think u have zero knowledge abt anything.When did pak Army killed innocent civilians.....If u r talking abt operation in swat then Army ist seperated innocent civilians fron terrorists and then they killed them...If u think killing terrorists is bad thing then Pak ka Allah hi Hafiz coz of this thinking......U people i think want to promote terrorism more.....
 

cifa1

Citizen
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

what do think if pakistan army would b in this place what would they have done . i think they wouldnt take a second to kill citizens as they already are doing
yes in army u cant say no its a army disepalon
and they do there jobs nothing moor
we love our army pak foog zanda bad
karayee k tatoo murda bad
 
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adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

No need to assume they are now welltrained in this domain
But now they will ask for more $ before going to open fire

ARMY ZINDABAAAAAAAAAAD
Pak Army ka kom ko order
baita jaldi se baree ho jaoo taka tumhain mar ker yaa baich ker ham apni ayashian keraan
Bachay kam badhaal army

u r rite . how foolish are Libya's soldier they are doing it for free. they need to come Pakistan and do some ""command and staff"" course here
 

adnan_swati

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

I think u have zero knowledge abt anything.When did pak Army killed innocent civilians.....If u r talking abt operation in swat then Army ist seperated innocent civilians fron terrorists and then they killed them...If u think killing terrorists is bad thing then Pak ka Allah hi Hafiz coz of this thinking......U people i think want to promote terrorism more.....

there is long list . may b a book to describe this. examples are

they dont have guts to stop drones
they are unable to stop suicide attacks
 

shaheer

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: biggest sacrifice in recent arab protests.wow. do u think our army has got the same guts??

look at the unity of these so called human rights preachers...EU HAS PUT SANCTIONS ON LIBYA STRAIGHT AWAY,WESTERN MEDIA IS COVERING ALL THESE PROTESTS IN ARAB WORLD ON FRONT PAGES.
who was behind all these dictators??from iran to libya,from shah raza pehlvi to hosni mubarak...these western support only their own interests,if a dictator is working well for them its fine if not they will design a DEMOCRACY which ll protect their interests.U CANT JUDGE THESE ISSUES IN HEADLINES,U HV TO LOOK IN A BROADER PICTURE..for one month western media didnt touch the issue of raymond davis,what u think they didnt know that?? of course they know from the day one but THAT WASNT IN THEIR BETTER INTEREST.
DAVID CAMERON IS ON TRADE TOUR TO ARAB WORLD....U KNOW WHAT TRADE? JUST WEAPENS...he is selling weapens to countries like bahrain,qatar....
NOW EVERYBODY SAYING THAT IRAQ INVASION WAS ON WRONG INTELLIGENCE INFORMATIONS....is any muslim country speaking on it???is anyone from muslim world can take these people in to court for war crimes??? last week AMERICA VETO THE RESOLUTION TO CONDEMN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN GAZA BY ISRAEL IN UN.all other 13 countries approved it but america used their power to veto this & thats only condemnation nothing beyond...IF THEIR IS NO JUSTICE (individually,socially,economically,geographically,country to country) THEIR WOULD BE NO PEACE AT ALL.SOONER OR LATER EVERY COUNTRY HV TO FACE THE MUSIC.