The Legacy of the Bhuttos - Is it true tha Z.A.Bhutto was born out of hindu convert dancing girl?

[JewayPakistan]

Weren't Hazrat RAT,Abu Bakar Siddique and other not converted?

 

[naddyjr]

Not concerned at all. Just wanted to share a historic fact which many woul'nt know. Is'nt it intersting?

 

[shagi]

Naddyjr... you are doing useless propp****a against Bhutto. Istead of counting achievements of Z A Bhutto, you are just tarnishing him by exploring his family. Shame on you. Do you know Islam teaches us eaquality whether white or black, born from poor mother or rich.

 

[Raaz]

Are they in NRO?
Any corruption or fraud case against them?

Jamat at-least not a Family Dictatorship

:lol::lol::lol:
جماعت صرف کوہلو کا بیل ہے
ایک کے بعد دوسرا آنکھو پی پٹی بندہ کے آ جاتا ہے

اسٹبلشمنٹ کا کام اسسان کرنے

 

[naddyjr]

Is this propa****a started by me. I found something interesting on the internet infact there are several hundred articles about this. I just asked opinion of the other learned members about this historic fact being sited by many.

As for as Z.A.Bhutto's contribution and good work is concerned I am admirer of him and infact actively worked for his party as well. So shame is returned on you my friend.

 

[Star Gazer]

Dear all ,if anything it goes to the credit of the Bhutto's who have converted to Islam and it must have been against some pressure which speaks more fof them as compared to most of the muslims born into muslim families and really never even raise their voices against the tyrants of this world.
I have serious differences and objections regarding the political decisions made by the Bhuttos but I also have a lot of respect for their courage.

 

[Zionist Hindu]

I think it is load of rubbish promoted by some right wing Hindu org. Internet is flooded with these theories. I read one good well researched book regarding Nehru dynasty don't remember the author. I believe Feroze was a Parsi. So there is no Muslim link in ****hi family. However there are Sikh, Christian etc. link. They are very liberal family and I like this aspect. Even if there was a Muslim link nothing to worry about. Regarding the post, good post, lots of information intriguing history of bhutto family. I will try to find Stanley Wolpert book about bhutto next time I visit library.Every person is unique and he is responsible for his karma. We shouldn't judge them by their family.

Since Bhutto's family history has been noted here, and the intrigues to go with it, therefore it will be fitting to write about Nehru family, the story of Nehru family if compared with Bhutto family, it pales the story of Bhutto family. the uncanny conversions of the family to Muslim or Christianity and back to Hinduism disrespect for all faith, What ever was needed to get married they did.

Both Indra and Rajive had converted few times to fool those they married. Nehru family was a failure in education, failure in religion and failure in all aspects of being good family.

Read on.

by: "Yogesh Saxena" [email protected] yogrekha
Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:46 pm (PST)
NEHRU-****HI' S FAMILY TREE WORTH SPENDING 15 MINUTES TO READ
At the very beginning of his book, "The Nehru Dynasty", astrologer K.
N. Rao mentions the names of Jawahar Lal's father and grandfather.
Jawahar Lal's father was believed to be Moti Lal and Moti Lal's
father was one Gangadhar Nehru. And we all know that Jawahar Lal's
only daughter was Indira Priyadarshini Nehru, Kamala Nehru was her
mother, who died in Switzerland of tuberculosis. She was totally
against Indira's proposed marriage with Feroze. Why? No one tells us
that Now, who is this Feroze? We are told by many he was the son of
the family grocer. The grocer supplied wines etc. to Anand Bhavan,
preciously known as Ishrat Manzil, which once belonged to a Muslim
lawyer named Mobarak Ali. Moti Lal was earlier an employee of Mobarak
Ali. What was the family grocer's name? One frequently hears that
Rajiv ****hi's grandfather was Pandit Nehru. But then we all know
that everyone has two grandfathers, the paternal and the material
grandfather. In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be the
more important grandfather in most societies. Why is it then nowhere
we find Rajiv ****hi's paternal grandfather' s name? It appears that
the reason is simply this Rajiv ****hi's paternal grandfather was a
Muslim gentleman from the Junagadh area of Gujrat. This Muslim grocer
by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman after converting
her to Islam. This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a
Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze was Feroze Khan before he
married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes. Feroze mother's family
name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed to
****hi, sometime before his wedding with Indira by an affidavit. The
fact of the matter is that (and this fact can be found in many
writings) Indira was very lonely. Chased out of the Shantiniketan
University by Guru Dev Rabindranath himself for misdemeanor, the
lonely girl was an by herself while father Jawahar was busy with
polities pretty women and illicit sex; the mother was in hospital.
Feroze Khan, the grocer's son was then in England and he was quite
sympathetic to Indira and soon enough she changed her religion,
became a Muslim women and married Feroze Khan in a London mosque.
Nehru was not happy; Kamala was dead already or dying. The news of
this married eventually reached Mohandas Karan Chand ****hi. ****hi
urgently called Nehru and practically ordered him to ask the young
man to change his name from Khan to ****hi. It had nothing to do with
change of religion, from Islam to Hindustan for instance. It was just
a case of a change of name by an affidavit. And so Feroze Khan became
Feroze ****hi. The surprising thing is that the apostle of truth, the
old man soon to be declared India's Mahatma and the `Father of the
Nation' didn't mention this game of his in the famous book. `My
Experiments with Truth' Why? When they returned to India, a
mock `Vedic marriage' was instituted for public consumption. On the
subject, writes M. O. Mathai (a longtime private secretary of Nehru)
in his renowned (but now suppressed by the GOI) `Reminiscences of the
Nehru Age' on page no. 94, second paragraph: "For some inexplicable
reason, Nehru allowed the marriage to be performed according to Vedic
rited in 1942. An inter-religious and inter-caste marriage Vedic
rites at that time was not valid in law. To be legal, it had to be a
civil marriage. It's a known fact that after Rajiv's birth Indira and
Feroze lived separately, but they were not divorced. Feroze used to
harass Nehru frequently for money and also interfere in Nehru's
political activities. Nehru got fed up and left instructions not to
allow him into the Prime Minister's residence Trimurthi Bhavan.
Mathai writes that the death of Feroze came as a relief to Nehru and
Indira. The death of Feroze in 1960 before he could consolidate his
own political force, is itself a mystery. Feroze had even planned to
remarry. Those who try to keep tabs on our lenders in spite of all
the suppressions and deliberate misinformation are aware of the fact
that the second son Indira (or Mrs. Feroze Khan) known as Sanjay
****hi was not the son of Feroze. He was the son of another Moslem
gentleman, Mohammad Yunus. Here in passing, we might that the second
son was originally named Sanjeev. It rhymed with Rajiv, the elder
brother's name. It was claimed to Sanjeev when he was arrested by the
British police in England and his passport impounded, for having
stolen a car. Krishna Menon was then India's High Commissioner in
London. He offered to issue another passport to the felon who changed
his name to Sanjay. Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with the Sikh
girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira ****hi found the
name of Lord Indra's court dancer rather offensivet) took place quite
surprisingly in Mohammad Yunus house in New Delhi. And the marriage
with Manaka who was a model (She had modeled for Bombay Dyeing
wearing just a towel) was not so ordinary either. Sanjay was
notorious in getting unwed young women pregnant. Menaka too was
rendered pregnant by Sanjay. It was then that her father. Colonel
Anand threatened Sanjay with dire consequences if he did not marry
her daughter. And that did the trick. Sanjay married Menaka. It was
widely reported in Delhi at the time that Mohammad Yunus was unhappy
at the marriage of Sanjay with Menaka; apparently he had wanted to
get him married with a Muslim girl of his choice. It was Mohammad
Yunus who carried the most when Sanjay died in the plane accident. In
Yunus book, `Persons, Passions & Polities' one discovers that baby
Sanjay had been circumcised following Islamic custom, although the
reason stated was phimosis. It was always believed that Sanjay used
to blackmail Indira ****hi and due to this she used to turn a blind
eye when Sanjay ****hi started to run the country as though if were
his personal fiefdom. Was he black mailing her with the secret of who
his real father was? When the news of Sanjay's death reaches Indira
****hi, the first thing she wanted to know was about the bunch of
keys which Sanjay had with him. Nehru was no less a player in
producing *******s. At least one case is very graphically described
by M. O. Mathai in his "Reminiscences of the Nehru Age" page 206.
Muthai writes: "In the antumn of 1948 ( India became free in 1947 and
a great deal of work needed to be done) a young woman from Benares
arrived in New Delhi as a sanyasin named Shraddha Mata ( an assumed
and not a real name). She was a Sanskrit Scholar well versed in the
ancient Indian scriptures and mythology .People including MPs,
thronged to her to hear her discourses. One day S. D. Upadhyaya,
Nehru's old employee, brought a letter in Hindi from Shraddha Mata.
Nehru gave her an interview in the PM's House. As her departed, I
noticed ( Mathai is speaking here) that she was young, shapely and
beautiful. Meetings with her became rather frequent , mostly after
Nehru finished his work at night. During one of Nehru's visits to
Lucknow, Shraddha Mata turned up there, and Upadhyaya brought a
letter from her as usual . Nehru sent her the reply, and she visited
Nehru at midnight€ ’. Suddenly Shraddha Mata disappeared. In November
1949 a convent in Bangalore sent a decent looking person to Delhi
with a bundle of letters. He said that a young woman from northern
India arrived at the convent a few months ago and gave birth to a
baby boy. She refused to divulge her name or give any particulars
about herself. She left the convent as soon as she was well enough to
move out but left the child behind. She however forgot to take with
her a small cloth bundle in which, among other things, several
letters in Hindi were found. The Mother superior, who was a
foreigner , had the letters examined and was told they were from the
Prime Minister. The person, who brought the letters surrendered
them,. "I ( Mathai) made discreet inquiries repeatedly about the boy
but failed to get a clue about his whereabouts. Convents in such
matters are extremely tightlipped and secretive. Had I succeeded in
locating the boy. I would have adopted him. He must have grown up as
a Catholic Christian blissfully ignorant of who his father was."
Coming back to Rajiv ****hi, we all know now that he changed his so
called Paris religion to become a Catholic to marry Sania Maino of
Turin, Italy. Rajiv become Roberto. His daughter's name is Bianca and
son's name is Raul. Quite cleverly the same names are presented to
the people of India as Priyanka and Rahul. What is amazing is the
extent of our people's ignorance in such matters. The press
conference that Rajiv ****hi gave in London after taking over as
prime minister of India was very informative. In this press
conference , Rajiv boasted that he was NOT a Hindu but a Paris Mind
you, speaking of the Paris religion, he had no Paris ancestor at all.
His grandmother (father's mother) has turned Muslim after having
abandoned the Paris religion to marry Nawab Khan. It is the western
press that waged a blitz of misinformation on behalf of Rajiv. From
the New York Times to the Los Angles Times and the Washington Post
the big guns raised Rajiv to heaven. The children's encyclopedias
recorded that Rajiv was a qualified Mechanical Engineer from the
revered University of Cambridgewhich is falsehood but actually he
was cicked out by Rolls Royec from their apprenticeship programme
for non performance . No doubt US kids are among the most
misinformed in the world today. The reality is that in all three
years of his tenure at that University Rajiv had not passed a single
examination. He had therefore to leave Cambridge without a
certificate. Sonia too had the same benevolent treatment. She was
stated to be student in Cambridge. Such a description is calculated
to mis lead Indian. She was a student in Cambridge all right but not
of the University of Cambridge but of one of those fly by night
language schools where foreign student come to learn English. Sonia
was working as an `an pair' girl in Cambridge and trying to learn
English at the same time but failed in exams. rajeev and Antonia were failures was a coomon point of attraction between them.
And surprise of surprises, Rajiv was even
cremated as per vedic rites in full view of India's public. This is
the Nehru dynasty that India worships and now an Italian house maid made
madam by congress leads a
prestigious national party because of just one qualification being
married into the Nehru family

 

[Night-Hawk]

One may have serious differences with Bhuttos, but this is a ridiculous and unethical way of criticizing somebody. I have tried to track down the writer [Blaise P] but to no avail. He/She has spewed venom not only on Bhuttos but questioned the legitimacy of Pakistan and contemplatedly criticized Mughal rule in India (save for Akbar). The way he has labeled Akbar as "Akbar the Great" and Alamgir as "Alamgir the terrible" , suggests his whereabouts.

Secondly he has seriously undermined his credibility by mentioning the political 'murder of Wali Khan' in his actual post -- a folly rectified upon complaint by some visitor to his blog, but what he was unable to rectify was the date of formation of All India Muslim League (actual date was Dec 1906 and he mentions 1909), which shows his lack of interest in history. This also shows that his intentions to write this article were focused on maligning Bhutto, questioning the legality of Pakistan by calling it an international conspiracy, and defaming the rightful and justified struggle for independence by the Muslims of India.

 

[gazoomartian]

sawal yeh hai k would it really help us to know all these history? Ok so senior Bhutto was born out of wed with a Hindu, that was ages ago

Right now our problem is did we get all the details about the PPP CEC meeting? Only two statements in 3 hr meeting, is that they all discussed? I dont think so

 

[Wadaich]

This is not our tradition to discuss very private or personal matter of a dead person.

You may agree or differ with the views or concepts but shouldnt talk about things like that.

When one is converted to the true faith, then he/she is better then the ones who are Muslim due to their ancesters.

May Allah guide us to the right path.

But, unless they affect us in the current situation. We must identify the causes of the affects were are suffering from.

 

[ASQR1]

I think it is load of rubbish promoted by some right wing Hindu org. Internet is flooded with these theories. I read one good well researched book regarding Nehru dynasty don't remember the author. I believe Feroze was a Parsi. So there is no Muslim link in ****hi family. However there are Sikh, Christian etc. link. They are very liberal family and I like this aspect. Even if there was a Muslim link nothing to worry about. Regarding the post, good post, lots of information intriguing history of bhutto family. I will try to find Stanley Wolpert book about bhutto next time I visit library.Every person is unique and he is responsible for his karma. We shouldn't judge them by their family.

you call the writer of the article as Extremist Hindu, but did you ever see your name on this forum. HINDU ZIONIST. What is that, is that not an extremist name.

Hindu Zionist, u r sadly hilarious, and U by promoting Stanley Wolpert have indicated that u agree with his style of double talk., when he writes about Muslim Leaders, he spares no punches, but writing about other such as the one about Nehru, he down plays Nehru's falabilities such as his secret Relationship with Edwina, his economic coarse that put India back 50 years as he was unable to guide the right path, but wolpert keep praising him.


Most of acts of Nehru were bad for India as per wolpert, but still he keep calling him mesmerising, smart and clever, it is all a double talk. read on.

And about Feroze Khan being Parsi, all I will say is that you know very little about Parsies. their names are never Feroze Khan,Specially Khan, they pride themselves with being Irani so their names are all Iran based, Never Khan, so much for your knowledge.

http://www.indiastar.com/kak2.htm

 

[kashmiri]

Yes. this is true statement. Shanavaz Bhutoo was also converted to Islam . He was originally Hindu Rajput. 98% pakistani Muslims are converted from hindu by force from various Muslim kings.

Defiantly you have very poor knowledge of history
I do not want to blame you but do not put your mind-dirt on other
if you have time just listen this
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?44584-Prophet-Muhammad-(pbuh)-by-Bhushan-Kumar-Upadhyay

 

[ASQR1]

A poem by an anonymous writer about reverting to Islam,

Read and enjoy.

Deeply bothered when I think of all the time I wasted,
and wise advice I would constantly ignore.
How did I live with so much hate in my heart,
and survive being so spiritually poor?
How could I be so arrogant to think that I was so“profoundly wise”?
When I was nothing, but a mockery to myself, with bloodshot eyes!
How could I think I was living, when I was constantly
enslaved to drugs and alcohol.
Frequently, moving about this life in a drunken
stupor,finding so much humor in my devastating fall.
How could I not find my life so invaluable,
and actually contemplate suicide?
Blinded, and unwilling to accept, that I
was the cause of all the pain and depression inside.
How could I endure such a hopelessly sad life,
with no sign of change in sight.
Little did I know, that my life would soon
drastically change, after one special night.
Never expecting God to come and speak to me,
he did just that, in a life altering dream.

 

[Night-Hawk]

you call the writer of the article as Extremist Hindu, but did you ever see your name on this forum. HINDU ZIONIST. What is that, is that not an extremist name.

Hindu Zionist, u r sadly hilarious, and U by promoting Stanley Wolpert have indicated that u agree with his style of double talk., when he writes about Muslim Leaders, he spares no punches, but writing about other such as the one about Nehru, he down plays Nehru's falabilities such as his secret Relationship with Edwina, his economic coarse that put India back 50 years as he was unable to guide the right path, but wolpert keep praising him.


Most of acts of Nehru were bad for India as per wolpert, but still he keep calling him mesmerising, smart and clever, it is all a double talk. read on.

And about Feroze Khan being Parsi, all I will say is that you know very little about Parsies. their names are never Feroze Khan,Specially Khan, they pride themselves with being Irani so their names are all Iran based, Never Khan, so much for your knowledge.

http://www.indiastar.com/kak2.htm

A bit of correction here regarding Feroze ****hi (husband of Indira)---- I think Zionist Hindu is right in his claim that he was Parsi. I don't think he ever used the suffix 'Khan'.

 

[ASQR1]

A bit of correction here regarding Feroze ****hi (husband of Indira)---- I think Zionist Hindu is right in his claim that he was Parsi. I don't think he ever used the suffix 'Khan'.

tanx. I am right 99% of the time and Hindu Zionist is right 1% of the time, Being right 1% of the right is only by chance and not by choice.

 

[mirzayasir4]

Informative Article....

 

[Umer Baloch]

And IK's father was charged for corruption to for the matter of fact. PPP is reality and you gotta face it :)

 

[Altaf Lutfi]

Good work but the thread title shows bad taste of the owner.

 

[Abrar bol.today]

Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan: His Life and Time
Stanley Wolpert (Author)
You can found the video in the given link

Is it true tha Zulfiqar Bhutto was born out of hindu convert dancing girl?