Something Phenomenal could be emerging out of Greece: A Nation rising

[kakajee]

Early exit polls show a clear majority for 'NO' to austerity measures, in short cruelty.

If things go this way, Greece could be out of the EURO soon enough. EURO done and dusted and so is the IMF.

With more than 30% of votes counted, results from the Greek referendum suggest voters have rejected the terms of an international bailout.


Results published by the interior ministry showed about 60% of those whose ballots had been counted voting "No", against some 40% voting "Yes".


Greece's governing Syriza party campaigned for a "No", saying the bailout terms were humiliating.
The "Yes" campaign warned this could see Greece ejected from the eurozone.


Senior European officials had also said that a "No" would be seen as an outright rejection of talks with creditors.
But Greek government officials have insisted that a "No" vote would strengthen their hand and that they could rapidly strike a deal for fresh funding in resumed negotiations.


Greek banks will reopen by Tuesday, they say.


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"The mandate from the Greek people is for the government to defend its own proposal and its own positions," government spokesperson Gabriel Sakellaridis said as results began to come in on Sunday. "The real negotiations must start from tonight."


Euclid Tsakalotos, Greece's deputy foreign minister, told Star TV that two developments would allow Greece to pursue "a solution that is financially viable".


"Firstly, the government now has a new popular mandate and the second is the latest IMF report which says that the Greek debt is unsustainable."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33403665

 

[kakajee]

 

[thinking]

If Greece goes for No...its means they are Khud dar qoum.
I will salute Greece for saying No...

 

[ConcernedPaki]

Tough days ahead for Greece. If they get kicked out of Eurozone, they would have to go back to their worthless Drachma. Banks could soon run out of euros and there could be a civil war on the streets. I cannot believe that these people retire at the age of 50-55 and then expect the world to pay for their pensions.
However, there is always opportunity in every crisis. May be three decades later, Greeks can have a balanced budget and their grand children will have a better future.

If someone was planning a Greek vacation, this could be the time. Visiting those beautiful Greek islands may be dirt cheap in the coming months!

 

[Babatank]

Tough days ahead for Greece. If they get kicked out of Eurozone, they would have to go back to their worthless Drachma. Banks could soon run out of euros and there could be a civil war on the streets. I cannot believe that these people retire at the age of 50-55 and then expect the world to pay for their pensions.
However, there is always opportunity in every crisis. May be three decades later, Greeks can have a balanced budget and their grand children will have a better future.

If someone was planning a Greek vacation, this could be the time. Visiting those beautiful Greek islands may be dirt cheap in the coming months![/QUOTE]
100% agreedone! It is absolutely not the right time to visit Greece. The German and Dutch foreign offices issued traveling advice on their homepage.

Given the worsening financial crisis in Greece, the Netherlands have warned tourists against traveling to Greece. "Prepare your stay particularly well, and pay attention to changin situation."

So, if you want to travel to Greece take enough cash with you

 

[JuanM67]

In Ecuador, Fight for Mankind; In Greece, Fight for Greece!


Andre Vltchek writer.

Greece is white, it is European, and therefore eyes of entire Western “progressive” world are now directed towards Athens: will its government dare to default, would Greece leave euro-zone and eventually the European Union? As if the answer to this question could change the world; as if Athens is where the fate of humanity will be decided.


Some 10 thousand kilometers away, Ecuador is predominantly indigenous, and therefore, inhabited by ‘un-people’, to borrow from George Orwell’s colorful terminology. Battered by its own, mainly Euro-centric and pale-skinned ‘elites’ who are enjoying extremely close links with both EU and the United States, Ecuador and its determinedly left-wing government can count very little on international solidarity, especially on the camaraderie from ‘so-called progressive’ movements in the West.


After all, non-white, non-Western people are expected to suffer. Even the left in the West is ‘accustomed to’ their agony.
Frankly, almost nobody in Europe or in the United States wants those left wing governments in Latin America, in Asia or in Africa, to succeed. That is ‘well hidden secret’, or at least ‘an uncomfortable truth’!


China, South Africa, Venezuela, Ecuador and other countries all over the world have been addressed and treated in the most despicable, patronizing, and even racist way by so-called left wing individuals and groups in the West.


The Left got thoroughly defunct in both Europe and in North America. But it continues to be distressingly self-righteous, self-indulged, bossy and arrogant. It does not govern and does not inspire almost anybody, anymore. It became shamefully cowardly and lazy. But it behaves as if it would be holding some God-given right to judge and advice others: those who do fight, those who do inspire and those who do govern! It is evident that it wants non-Western socialist and communist governments and movements, those that are proudly governing all over the world, to go straight to hell!


“If we collapsed, let others collapse as well!” Is unpronounced motto.
It is because even the Left in Europe and US is constructed on Christian and Euro-centric mind frame, with exceptionalism and supremacist sentiments at its core.


Of course such things are never pronounced in Paris, London, Rome, or New York, but there is a perfect consensus there, that only the Western thinkers and leaders are qualified and should be trusted with ‘saving the world’. And only they ought to be allowed to decide, which country qualifies to be called socialist or communist, democratic or tyrannical, progressive or regressive.

Unable to lead, and most likely unwilling to govern, too lethargic and intellectually spent, most of Western ‘progressive’ thinkers are constantly regurgitating lunatic economic and political theories that no one in other parts of the world, especially the poor world, would ever take seriously, let alone want to implement. Those Western ‘progressive leaders’ are also demanding grotesque levels of purity from the Latin American and Asian left-wing leaders. Simultaneously, they demand great sacrifice from non-Western people: “Let us consume and live high-life, as poor us, we cannot help it. But let them care about environment and live in austerity.”
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And so, while Greece votes on its financial future, Ecuador is facing one of the most vicious subversions in its history. It is facing it alone. It appears that everyone from non-Latin American left who matters is now in Athens. As far as I know, there are no solidarity ‘delegates’ descending on Quito!

Ecuador has now been abandoned, not unlike Venezuela was, for already quite some time.
I was recently invited to speak on an important television channel based in Iran, to talk about Palestine and Greece. I refused. My argument was clear: both Palestine and Greece already received enough solidarity from ‘us’, in Latin America. Now our revolutions are facing great threats. They are being attacked. We are human, too! We also need help; we need solidarity.

To give credit where credit is due, Iranian editor put me on hold, after expressing her concern about the situation in Latin America. Few minutes later she came back to me, via Skype: “I talked to our director and he told me to interview you on Ecuador. He said: they are our brothers. We fall together, or we will survive together!”

Naturally, such statements and gestures are remembered for the rest of the life!
But that’s Teheran, not London or Paris or Chicago!