Sir Syed Ahmed Khan .. Hero or Villain ??

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Despite his crappy political/religious/etc. views, there is no doubt that Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) was the sole education power house for Muslims during 1870s-1930s (50 Years!), and the credit goes to SSAK.
Immediately after partition, it was AMU's alumni who kept Pakistan government machinery in a running condition for many years.
 

aneeskhan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
If There was No Sir Syed then Most Probably Whole Muslims of subcontinent May be "Cheear ,Bhangi" No Muslim officer or leader could come out may be worse than Shuddar.
If Muslims could not do a mistake and hastely accepted current Geography of Pakistan,could get Whole Kashmir, Nizam Hyderabad, Juna Garh and Pakistan would have been quite different.
 

Qalandari1

Banned
The graduates of his institute were brainwashed servants of the British Raj. Most important leaders of Pakistan did not attend his biased educational institue. Infact, the graduates of his institute filled in the bureaucratic space due to which Pakistan first got divided and secondly we daily hear riduculous stories about injustice in Pakistan. It was this biased bureaucracy which planned to impose Urdu language on other ethnicities.

The early days of Pakistan after Quaid was secretly run by the civil-military bureaucracy which mostly consisted of graduates of Aligarh.
 
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realitycheck

Senator (1k+ posts)
Lets start from his name

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan ..... Forget about "Sir" ..... just note "Syed" and "khan" ....... kia yee kula tezad nahi

Syed mean .. he came from Arabia ,,,, "Khan" means he is Afghan/Pukhtoon


what is he ? a person who was even confused about his name, identity and about his origin .. tried to tell us what was good for us ?

The question is have we better off with English language ... I will give my own example here ... I started primary school in Pushtoo

When I reached class 6th , they started " abc " and all subject were in urdu then .... when I came to college ( class 11th ) .. almost

every thing they taught us were in English ..... the result is I don't know Pushto , urdu and neither English ...

I am confused like "Sir " "syed" Ahmad "khan"

LOL he was a swine. A dirty rotten swine.

If There was No Sir Syed then Most Probably Whole Muslims of subcontinent May be "Cheear ,Bhangi" No Muslim officer or leader could come out may be worse than Shuddar.
If Muslims could not do a mistake and hastely accepted current Geography of Pakistan,could get Whole Kashmir, Nizam Hyderabad, Juna Garh and Pakistan would have been quite different.

The graduates of his institute were brainwashed servants of the British Raj. Most important leaders of Pakistan did not attend his biased educational institue. Infact, the graduates of his institute filled in the bureaucratic space due to which Pakistan first got divided and secondly we daily hear riduculous stories about injustice in Pakistan. It was this biased bureaucracy which planned to impose Urdu language on other ethnicities.

The early days of Pakistan after Quaid was secretly run by the civil-military bureaucracy which mostly consisted of graduates of Aligarh.

No Doubt Hero of Sub continent Muslims -Villian For TTP and Imran Khan

 

shassan655

Senator (1k+ posts)
LOL he was a swine. A dirty rotten swine.

Qalandri...shame on you for calling Sir Syed Ahmad a SWINE, who sincerely made efforts to educate Muslim's of the Sub-Continent. Admiral, has made a very valid point, Aligarh University was the Power House of Muslims, which produced the muslim leader's.

Whatever Sir Syed's believes were, I am not concerned with, because there are too many theories out there. God knows which one to belief in. But what he has done for Muslims and his hard work for the University speaks volumes of his personality and care for the Muslim Ummah.
 

UsmanSial

Senator (1k+ posts)
Better not to make him a Hero or Villain. Give credit to him for the good things and point out where he wasn't quite right.
 

shassan655

Senator (1k+ posts)
Lets start from his name

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan ..... Forget about "Sir" ..... just note "Syed" and "khan" ....... kia yee kula tezad nahi

Syed mean .. he came from Arabia ,,,, "Khan" means he is Afghan/Pukhtoon


what is he ? a person who was even confused about his name, identity and about his origin .. tried to tell us what was good for us ?

The question is have we better off with English language ... I will give my own example here ... I started primary school in Pushtoo

When I reached class 6th , they started " abc " and all subject were in urdu then .... when I came to college ( class 11th ) .. almost

every thing they taught us were in English ..... the result is I don't know Pushto , urdu and neither English ...

I am confused like "Sir " "syed" Ahmad "khan"

Why are we dwelling into " Sir" and "Syed" and Khan.

Can you please tell me if Alligarh University was only to teach English to the Muslims. They were giving Scientific Education and degrees into different fields. Muslim Ummah, had a glorious Past but during 1800's it was Europeans who were doing all the Scientific inventions. So what if he was asking Muslims to educate themselves. You have to accept, that Students who came out of Alligarh University were the future leaders.
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
Lets start from his name

Sir Syed Ahmad Khan ..... Forget about "Sir" ..... just note "Syed" and "khan" ....... kia yee kula tezad nahi

Syed mean .. he came from Arabia ,,,, "Khan" means he is Afghan/Pukhtoon


what is he ? a person who was even confused about his name, identity and about his origin .. tried to tell us what was good for us ?

The question is have we better off with English language ... I will give my own example here ... I started primary school in Pushtoo

When I reached class 6th , they started " abc " and all subject were in urdu then .... when I came to college ( class 11th ) .. almost

every thing they taught us were in English ..... the result is I don't know Pushto , urdu and neither English ...

I am confused like "Sir " "syed" Ahmad "khan"
Khan is also used in India and Pakistani Punjab as a title for a nobleman or a landlord like Chawdhry Nisar Ali Khan (He is clearly not a Pashtun). In India and Punjab it is not the title Khan which determines his Pashtun origin but the tribe's name like Tareens or sherwanis
 

United4Pak

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sir Syed was definitely a visionary as he understood cooperation not conflict with British Government can improve the situation of Muslims in India. Muslims couldn't compete with Anyone if they didn't improve their educational standards. We see something similar in KPK now where English medium education system has become a standard for all. He may have religious views that one could disagree but he definitely paved way for a state where Muslims could decide whatever religious views they wanted.
 

Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i have read him in detail and i think that whatever his intentions were but it was blessing in disguise or ALLAH helped Indian Muslims who were denied education of a standard to hunt gazetted posts
 

aneeskhan

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Pakistan could never be formed , If Alligeans didnot participate in Pakistan Movement, Britishers used to listen educated elites from both side, there was no voices for un educated people that time,like today whole cabinet ,PM ,Govt and Opposition Total Jahils.
 

Qalandari1

Banned
No matter how much you guys lie and write pages of his praises the facts will never change. He was a swine and his movement proved a disaster for Pakistan eventually.
 

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