IhsanIlahi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And last 10 years strategy proved Imran Khan a true leader who can lead this nation truely
Shafqat Mahmood on Imran Khan (before he joined IK's party)
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And last 10 years strategy proved Imran Khan a true leader who can lead this nation truely
truthinworld
MPA (400+ posts)
A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
....................When it comes to politics and policy though, the same Imran is unfortunately a signal failure. It can be truly said of him that he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. He could have teamed up with Nawaz Sharif in 1997 and got his party a presence in parliament. He did not.
He flip-flopped with Musharraf — supporting him in the rigged referendum, opposing him in the ensuing general election — and got the worst of both worlds. And, he boycotted the 2007 election when being in parliament (provided he won) would have made a great deal more sense.
These examples are of power politics and it may be argued that parliamentary success or power are no measure of a person’s success as a politician. Fine, let us look at his policy prescriptions.
From the start of his political career, he railed against something called western culture, which was a straight forward rejection of modernisation. In a country that was being pulled back by obscurantist mullahs, this was a strange choosing of sides. I will not even go into the personal choices he made while doing this.
His second fixation was the idealisation of a Pakhtun tribal culture. Again, I will avoid psychoanalysing a Punjabi’s identity crisis, but how a semi-literate and simple rural people could become a role model for a rapidly urbanising and complex Pakistani society was not easy to understand.
Granted that their inter-tribal dealings were egalitarian and perhaps the tribal councils or jirgas worked well, but how this model could be transplanted in other parts of the country, was neither explained by Imran nor obvious.
In between, he took some correct positions on the judiciary question and against Musharraf but badly fumbled while trying to prosecute Altaf Hussain in England. A politician should know which battles can be won and which are a lost cause. Imran vowed to go after Altaf Hussain in England and declared victory even before he had presented his case before the British government. As was expected, nothing has happened despite his various entreaties to the high and mighty in that country.
But, all these mistakes pale in comparison when measured up against his obsessive, single track refusal to understand that these barbarian hordes targeting FATA and Malakand division are a threat to our country. He has just one mantra that this is America’s fault, America’s fault, America… etc. America has contributed to it but is that the only problem we confront?
He cannot or does not want to understand that these people are linked up with Al Qaeda and actually do have an agenda of taking over our country. If he does not want to believe a ‘westernised liberal’ like me, he should read Saleem Saafi in Jang or others that know these people well.
In any case, how can he condone what these people are doing? Cutting people’s throats, lashing women, destroying all schools not just girls’, indulging in kidnapping and extortion and unleashing a reign of terror to subdue the people, are just some of their crimes. Above all, these people have taken up arms against the state. Why can’t he see all this?
He should listen to the stories of the displaced people now that they are out of the Taliban fear zone. They describe the Taliban as bloody thirsty criminals. It is sad that Imran visualises them as some kind of higher beings or fighters of Islam responding to American presence in Afghanistan. Please!
In this difficult time for the country, he is on the wrong side of history. No one doubts that American presence in Afghanistan has seriously contributed to our troubles. There is also a possibility that the Americans may have an evil eye on our nuclear programme.
But, we must also remember that barbarian hordes linked to Al Qaeda also have designs on our country and threaten our way of life. We have no choice but to fight them.
Imran must stand by his people and the armed forces. He should rise above his prejudices and help in the fight for Pakistan.
http://pakistancolumns.com/2009/05/15/imran-khans-strange-politics-shafqat-mahmood/
....................When it comes to politics and policy though, the same Imran is unfortunately a signal failure. It can be truly said of him that he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. He could have teamed up with Nawaz Sharif in 1997 and got his party a presence in parliament. He did not.
He flip-flopped with Musharraf — supporting him in the rigged referendum, opposing him in the ensuing general election — and got the worst of both worlds. And, he boycotted the 2007 election when being in parliament (provided he won) would have made a great deal more sense.
These examples are of power politics and it may be argued that parliamentary success or power are no measure of a person’s success as a politician. Fine, let us look at his policy prescriptions.
From the start of his political career, he railed against something called western culture, which was a straight forward rejection of modernisation. In a country that was being pulled back by obscurantist mullahs, this was a strange choosing of sides. I will not even go into the personal choices he made while doing this.
His second fixation was the idealisation of a Pakhtun tribal culture. Again, I will avoid psychoanalysing a Punjabi’s identity crisis, but how a semi-literate and simple rural people could become a role model for a rapidly urbanising and complex Pakistani society was not easy to understand.
Granted that their inter-tribal dealings were egalitarian and perhaps the tribal councils or jirgas worked well, but how this model could be transplanted in other parts of the country, was neither explained by Imran nor obvious.
In between, he took some correct positions on the judiciary question and against Musharraf but badly fumbled while trying to prosecute Altaf Hussain in England. A politician should know which battles can be won and which are a lost cause. Imran vowed to go after Altaf Hussain in England and declared victory even before he had presented his case before the British government. As was expected, nothing has happened despite his various entreaties to the high and mighty in that country.
But, all these mistakes pale in comparison when measured up against his obsessive, single track refusal to understand that these barbarian hordes targeting FATA and Malakand division are a threat to our country. He has just one mantra that this is America’s fault, America’s fault, America… etc. America has contributed to it but is that the only problem we confront?
He cannot or does not want to understand that these people are linked up with Al Qaeda and actually do have an agenda of taking over our country. If he does not want to believe a ‘westernised liberal’ like me, he should read Saleem Saafi in Jang or others that know these people well.
In any case, how can he condone what these people are doing? Cutting people’s throats, lashing women, destroying all schools not just girls’, indulging in kidnapping and extortion and unleashing a reign of terror to subdue the people, are just some of their crimes. Above all, these people have taken up arms against the state. Why can’t he see all this?
He should listen to the stories of the displaced people now that they are out of the Taliban fear zone. They describe the Taliban as bloody thirsty criminals. It is sad that Imran visualises them as some kind of higher beings or fighters of Islam responding to American presence in Afghanistan. Please!
In this difficult time for the country, he is on the wrong side of history. No one doubts that American presence in Afghanistan has seriously contributed to our troubles. There is also a possibility that the Americans may have an evil eye on our nuclear programme.
But, we must also remember that barbarian hordes linked to Al Qaeda also have designs on our country and threaten our way of life. We have no choice but to fight them.
Imran must stand by his people and the armed forces. He should rise above his prejudices and help in the fight for Pakistan.
http://pakistancolumns.com/2009/05/15/imran-khans-strange-politics-shafqat-mahmood/
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ThoughtFelon
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
And now this man has accepted that Imran was right all along, there is no military solution, dialogue is the way forward. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
Now Imran's ideology resonates with his staunch critics, if this isn't change than what is?
And now this man has accepted that Imran was right all along, there is no military solution, dialogue is the way forward. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
Now Imran's ideology resonates with his staunch critics, if this isn't change than what is?
Queue Farms
Banned
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
why you deleted the initial part ?
why you deleted the initial part ?
Shahid Ahmed
Councller (250+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
bechara omer cheema..... Bilawaja itni mehnat ki os ne..... Os ko chahiye tha k pehle ppp join kerta, phir musharaf league, or pml_n se ho ker aata pti mein. Shayad os ko bhi koi position mil jati party mein
bechara omer cheema..... Bilawaja itni mehnat ki os ne..... Os ko chahiye tha k pehle ppp join kerta, phir musharaf league, or pml_n se ho ker aata pti mein. Shayad os ko bhi koi position mil jati party mein
IhsanIlahi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
And now dis person is information secretary of PTI.............. that is called a real change
All have come to the vision of Imran Khan
And now dis person is information secretary of PTI.............. that is called a real change
All have come to the vision of Imran Khan
IhsanIlahi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
Don't worry for Omer Cheema,,, insha Allah he will win his constituency and will become Federal Minister with Prime Minister Imran Khan........... ap jisay marzi vote do aye ga imran khan he,,,,, likh lo ye baat,,,
Don't worry for Omer Cheema,,, insha Allah he will win his constituency and will become Federal Minister with Prime Minister Imran Khan........... ap jisay marzi vote do aye ga imran khan he,,,,, likh lo ye baat,,,
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
Ridiculous article, He assumes that IK if joined with N.S. would have done better, does he realy believe that that was the case, let me give here another thought of IK, the thought was that if joined N.S than he would be with those who he disagrees in every step of the way.
And same goes about Musharraf, he disagreed everything about Musharraf for what Musharraf stood for so did not join him, and the proof is that now that he is asking Pakistanis to vote for him, they know that he is not hungry for position but a man of principle and will be a good leader.
About Iltaf Hussein Shafaqat is wrong again, let me enlighten him, by taking Iltaf case to U.K he exposed U.K. judiciary as same as Pakistan. U.K. judiciary has enough evidence about Iltaf to convict him but for the sake of politics they like to keep him as a tool if needed.
About Jirga system the explanation is simple, it is based on Democratic principles as the people choose the leader and than he being one of them living among them, know and is familiar with his Jirga and it becomes easy for him to be a leader who is capable of deciding the criminals and innocents at the same time, this of coarse will be applied after it is refined to suit the complex urban societies.
IK never favored Al-Qaida or other groups who target innocents, what he wants is the intelligence report about those who are trouble maker and get them without killing innocents. this includes poeple who cut people's throat and lash women and children. Mr. shafqat is generalizing and in doing so as he is using his clever talks to undermine IK.
It is been repeated umpteen time by Pakistan's adversaries about our Nuclear assets and Pakistan is aware of it and is quite capable of saving assets, but Mr. shafqat is repeating this here so that he can make brawny points with those he is writing for, I can name two but i will refrain from doing so.
Imran is standing for Army and Pakistani people but people like shafqat are trying their clever ways to undermine him, but Pakistanis are smart people they see the evil in today'd politicians and go by their knowledge of past performance the existing elite's flip flops and lies and cheating and will choose right party for the future of Pakistan. the party of Imran Khan.
Ridiculous article, He assumes that IK if joined with N.S. would have done better, does he realy believe that that was the case, let me give here another thought of IK, the thought was that if joined N.S than he would be with those who he disagrees in every step of the way.
And same goes about Musharraf, he disagreed everything about Musharraf for what Musharraf stood for so did not join him, and the proof is that now that he is asking Pakistanis to vote for him, they know that he is not hungry for position but a man of principle and will be a good leader.
About Iltaf Hussein Shafaqat is wrong again, let me enlighten him, by taking Iltaf case to U.K he exposed U.K. judiciary as same as Pakistan. U.K. judiciary has enough evidence about Iltaf to convict him but for the sake of politics they like to keep him as a tool if needed.
About Jirga system the explanation is simple, it is based on Democratic principles as the people choose the leader and than he being one of them living among them, know and is familiar with his Jirga and it becomes easy for him to be a leader who is capable of deciding the criminals and innocents at the same time, this of coarse will be applied after it is refined to suit the complex urban societies.
IK never favored Al-Qaida or other groups who target innocents, what he wants is the intelligence report about those who are trouble maker and get them without killing innocents. this includes poeple who cut people's throat and lash women and children. Mr. shafqat is generalizing and in doing so as he is using his clever talks to undermine IK.
It is been repeated umpteen time by Pakistan's adversaries about our Nuclear assets and Pakistan is aware of it and is quite capable of saving assets, but Mr. shafqat is repeating this here so that he can make brawny points with those he is writing for, I can name two but i will refrain from doing so.
Imran is standing for Army and Pakistani people but people like shafqat are trying their clever ways to undermine him, but Pakistanis are smart people they see the evil in today'd politicians and go by their knowledge of past performance the existing elite's flip flops and lies and cheating and will choose right party for the future of Pakistan. the party of Imran Khan.
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ustadjejanab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
رونا اتا ھے ان نون لیگ والوں کی دماغی حالت پر...جب پنجاب کے ہسپتالوں میں علاج فری ھے تو یہ وہاں کیوں نہیں جاتے .
میرے بھائی! اگر شفقت محمود نے اپنا موقف تبدیل کیا ھے عمران خان کے بارے میں تو یہی تو عمران خان کی کامیابی ھے کے لوگ عمران کے نظریات سے اتفاق کرتے جا رھے ہیں ....دیکھ لینا ایک دیں نظیر ناجی بھی عمران کے نظریات سے اتفاق کرنا شروع ہو جاے گا.
اسی کو سچ کی جیت کہتے ہیں
رونا اتا ھے ان نون لیگ والوں کی دماغی حالت پر...جب پنجاب کے ہسپتالوں میں علاج فری ھے تو یہ وہاں کیوں نہیں جاتے .
میرے بھائی! اگر شفقت محمود نے اپنا موقف تبدیل کیا ھے عمران خان کے بارے میں تو یہی تو عمران خان کی کامیابی ھے کے لوگ عمران کے نظریات سے اتفاق کرتے جا رھے ہیں ....دیکھ لینا ایک دیں نظیر ناجی بھی عمران کے نظریات سے اتفاق کرنا شروع ہو جاے گا.
اسی کو سچ کی جیت کہتے ہیں
Shahid Ahmed
Councller (250+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
I am not worrying for him. mjhe tou os bechare per tars aa raha hai.
I am not worrying for him. mjhe tou os bechare per tars aa raha hai.
IhsanIlahi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
ap apna taras apny jaib me rakhay,,, Jab nawaz sharif ko hamary omer cheema jesay jawan haray gy election me to tb apna taras nawaz sharif ko dena,,,,, jaan deo hun
ap apna taras apny jaib me rakhay,,, Jab nawaz sharif ko hamary omer cheema jesay jawan haray gy election me to tb apna taras nawaz sharif ko dena,,,,, jaan deo hun
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
SMQ mentioned that Omar Cheema was more than happy to go to his area
to work and be ready to run for a seat. And win inshAllah!
You are right.
SMQ mentioned that Omar Cheema was more than happy to go to his area
to work and be ready to run for a seat. And win inshAllah!
Re: Naye Packet main Baichay Jo , Wohi Cheez Puranii .. Yahee tou hai Imran ka Tsunami .. !!
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lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:lol:
truthinworld
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
Suddenly this man accepted that IMRAN IS RIGHT.
After Lahore jalsa....????
Worshipper of Rising Sun (Chartay sooraj k pujari).
Suddenly this man accepted that IMRAN IS RIGHT.
After Lahore jalsa....????
Worshipper of Rising Sun (Chartay sooraj k pujari).
truthinworld
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: A great article of Shafqat Mahmood (Information Secretary of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf)
لاہور کے جلسے کے بعد ہی موقف کیوں تبدیل ہوا؟؟؟
چڑھتے سورج کے پجاری ہیں یہ لوگ۔
یہ بھی لوٹے کی ایک قسم ہے۔
رونا تو تم کو اس دن آے گا جس دن یہ مطلبی لوگ عمران کی چھٹی کروا دیں گے۔
چڑھتے سورج کے پجاری ہیں یہ لوگ۔
یہ بھی لوٹے کی ایک قسم ہے۔
رونا تو تم کو اس دن آے گا جس دن یہ مطلبی لوگ عمران کی چھٹی کروا دیں گے۔
you do not know the difference between personal and professional life, let me enlighten you , when you say ladies man it is personal,nothing to do with his political life, and when u say that he favors Taliban you r totally wrong, he only want NATO not to kill innocent by giving intelligence to Pak. Army to take care of trouble makers without killing innocent. cupish
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