pak2010
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pak2010
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Imran Khan Confesses about his past. A nice article by IK. (In Pakistan we have selective Islam). must read article
[h=1]for all of them who is doing propaganda about IK past, do read this and shut their mouths
In Pakistan, We Have Selective Islam[/h]
My Generation grew up at a time when colonial hang up was at its peak. Our older generation had been slaves and had a huge inferiority complex of the British. The school I went to was similar to all elite schools in Pakistan, despite becoming independent, they were, and still are, producing replicas of public school boys rather than Pakistanis. I read Shakespeare which was fine, but no Allama Iqbal. The Islamic class was not considered to be serious, and when I left the school I was considered amongst the elite of the country because I could speak English and wore western clothes. Despite periodically shouting Pakistan Zindabad at school functions, I considered my own culture backward and Islam an outdated religion. Amongst our group if anyone talked about religion, prayed or kept a beard he was immediately branded a Mullah. Because of the power of the Western Media, all our heroes were western movie or pop stars. When I went to Oxford already burdened with this hang up from my school days, things didn't get any easier. In University, not just Islam but all religions were considered anachronism. Science had replaced religion and if something couldn't be logically proved it did not exist. All supernatural stuff was confined to the movies. Philosophers like Darwin who with his half baked theory of evolution was supposed to have disproved the creation of man and hence religion. Moreover, the European history had an awful experience with religion. The horrors committed by the Christian clergy in the name of God during the Inquisition had left a powerful impact on the western mind. To understand why the West is so keen on secularism, one should go to places like Cordoba in Spain and see torture apparatus used during Spanish Inquisition. Also the persecution of scientists as heretics by the clergy and convinced the Europeans that all religions are regressive.
However, the biggest factor that drove people like me away from religion was the selective Islam practiced by most of its preachers. In other words, there was a huge difference between what they practiced and what they preached. Also, rather than explaining the philosophy behind the religion, there was an over emphasis on rituals. I feel that humans are different to animals whereas the latter can be drilled, humans need to be intellectually convinced. That is why the Quran constantly appeals to reason. The worst of course, was the exploitation of Islam for political gains by various individuals or groups.
Hence, it was a miracle I did not become an atheist. The only reason why I did not was the powerful religious influence wielded by my mother on me since my childhood. It was not so much out of conviction but love for her that I stayed a Muslim. However, my Islam was selective, that is, I accepted only parts of the religion that suited me. Prayers were restricted to Eid days and occasionally on Fridays, when my father insisted on taking me with him. If there was a God I was not sure about it and certainly felt that he did not interfere with my life. All in all I was smoothly moving to becoming a Pukka Brown Sahib [Totally Anglicized Pakistani]. After all I had the right credentials in terms of the right school, university and above all, acceptability in the English aristocracy, something that our brown sahibs would give their lives for. So what led me to do a lota [turn your back to] on the Brown Sahib culture and instead become a Desi? Well it did not just happen overnight.
Firstly, the inferiority complex that my generation had inherited gradually went as I developed into a world class athlete. Secondly, I had the unique position of living between two cultures. I began to see the advantages and the disadvantages of both the societies. In western societies, institutions were strong while they were collapsing in our country. However, there was an area where we were and still are superior, and that is our family life. I used to notice the loneliness of the old-age pensioners at Hove Cricket ground (during my Sussex years). Imagine sending your parents to Old Peoples' Homes! Even the children there never had the sort of love and warmth that we grew up with here. They completely miss out on the security blanket that a joint family system provides. However, I began to realize that the biggest loss to the western society and that in trying to free itself from the oppression of the clergy, they had removed both God and religion from their lives. While science can answer a lot of questions, no matter how much it progresses, two questions it will never be able to answer: One, what is the purpose of the existence and two, what happens to us when we die? It is this vacuum that I felt created the materialistic and the hedonistic culture. If this is the only life then one must make hay while the sun shines-and in order to do so one needs money. Such a culture is bound to cause psychological problems in a human being, as there is going to be an imbalance between the body and the soul. Consequently, in the USA, which has shown the greatest materialistic progress and also gives its citizens the greatest human rights, almost 60 per cent of the population consults psychiatrists. Yet, amazingly in modern psychology, there is no study of the human soul. Sweden and Switzerland, who provide the most welfare to their citizens, also have the highest suicide rates; hence, man is not necessarily content with material well being, he needs something more. Since all morality has it roots in religion, once religion was removed, immorality has progressively escalated since the 70's. The direct impact of it is on the family life. In UK, the divorce rate is 60 per cent, while it is estimated that there are over 35 per cent single mothers. The crime rate is rising in almost all western societies, but the most disturbing fact is the alarming increase in racism. While science always tries to prove the inequality of man (recent survey showing the American Black to be genetically less intelligent than whites) it is only religion which preaches the equality of man. Between '91 and '97, it was estimated that total immigration into Europe was around 520,000, and there were racially motivated attacks all over, especially in Britain, France and Germany. In Pakistan during the Afghan war, we had over four million refugees, and despite the people being so much poorer here and in the NWFP, they suffered a considerable loss in their standard of living as a result of the refugees yet, there was no racial tension. No wonder, last year in Britain religious education was reintroduced in their schools.
There was a sequence of events in the 80's that moved me towards God as the Quran says:
"There are signs for people of understanding."
One of them was cricket. As I was a student of the game, the more I understood the game, the more I began to realize that what I considered to be chance was, in fact, the will of Allah, the pattern which became clearer with time. But it was not until Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses that my understanding of Islam began to develop. People like me who were living in the western world bore the brunt of anti-Islam prejudice that followed the Muslim reaction to the book. We were left with two choices: fight or flight. Since I felt strongly that the attacks on Islam were unfair, I decided to fight. It was then I realized that I was not equipped to do so as my knowledge of Islam was inadequate. Hence, I started my research and for me a period of my greatest enlightenment. I read scholars like Ali Shariati, Mohammad Asad, Iqbal, Gai Eaton, plus of course, a study of the Holy Quran. I will try to explain as concisely as is possible, what "discovering the truth" meant for me. When the believers are addressed in the Quran, it always says,
"Those who believe and do good deeds."
In other words, a Muslim has dual function, one towards God and the other towards fellow human beings. The greatest impact of believing in God for me meant that I lost all fear of human beings. The Quran liberates man from man when it says that life and death and respect and humiliation are God's jurisdiction, so we do not have to bow before other human beings. As Iqbal puts it,
"Wo aik Sajda jisay tu giran samajhta hai, hazaar sajdon say deta hai admi ko nijaat"
The bowing that you despise is such that it will free from bowing down before millions.
Moreover, since this is a transitory world where we prepare for the eternal one, I broke out of the self-imposed prisons, such as growing old (such a curse in the western world, as a result of which, plastic surgeons are having a field day), materialism, ego, what people say and so on. It is important to note that one does not eliminate the earthly desires, simply that instead of being controlled by them, one controls them.
By following the second part of believing in Islam, I have become a better human being. Rather than being self-centered and living for the self, I feel that because the Almighty gave so much to me, in turn I must use that blessing to help the less privileged. By following the fundamentals of Islam rather than becoming a Kalashnikov-wielding fanatic. I have become a tolerant and a giving human being who feels compassion for the under privileged. Instead of attributing success to myself, I know it is because of God's will, hence humility instead of arrogance. Also, instead of the snobbish Brown Sahib attitude towards our masses, I believe in egalitarianism and strongly feel against the injustice done to the weak in our society according to the Quran,
"Oppression is worse than killing." In fact only now do I understand the true meaning of Islam, if you submit to the will of Allah, you have inner peace.
Through my faith, I have discovered strength within me that I never knew existed and that has released my potential in life. My education program
that I intend to announce is far more ambitious than the cancer hospital project. I feel that in Pakistan we have selective Islam. Just believing in
God and going through the rituals is not enough, one also has to be a good human being. I feel there are certain western countries with far more
Islamic traits than us, especially in the way they protect the rights of their citizens, or for that matter their justice system. In fact, some of the finest individuals I know live there. What I dislike about them is their double-standards in the way they protect the rights of their citizens and yet consider citizens of other countries as being somehow inferior to them as human beings, e.g. dumping toxic waste in the Third World, advertising cigarettes that are not allowed in the west and selling drugs that are banned in the west.
One of the problems facing Pakistan is the polarization of two reactionary groups. On one side is the westernized group that looks upon Islam through western eyes and has inadequate knowledge about the subject. It reacts to any one trying to impose Islam in the society and wants only a selective part of the religion. On the other extreme is the group that reacts to this westernized elite and in trying to become a defender of the faith, takes up such intolerant and self-righteous attitudes that are repugnant to the spirit of Islam.
What needs to be done is to somehow start a dialogue between the two extremes. In order for this to happen, the group on whom the greatest proportion of our educational resources are spent in this country must study Islam properly. Whether they become practicing Muslims or believe in God is entirely a personal choice; as the Quran tells us that there is "no compulsion in religion." However, they must arm themselves with knowledge as a weapon to fight extremism. By turning up their noses at extremism is not going to solve the problem. The Quran calls Muslims "the middle nation", i.e. not of extremes. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) was told to simply give the message and not worry whether people converted or not, therefore, there is no question in Islam of forcing your opinions on any one else. Moreover, we are told to respect other religions, their places of worship and their prophets. It should be noted that no Muslim missionaries or armies ever went to Malaysia or Indonesia. The people converted to Islam due to the high principles and impeccable character of the Muslim traders. At the moment, the worst advertisement for Islam are the Muslim countries with their selective Islam, especially where the religion is used to deprive people of their rights. In fact, a society that obeys fundamentals of Islam has to be a liberal one.
If our westernized class started to study Islam, not only will it be able to help our society fight sectarianism and extremism, but it will also make
them realize what a progressive religion Islam is. They will also be able to help the western world by articulating Islamic concepts. Last year, Prince
Charles accepted that the western world can learn from Islam during his speech at the Oxford Union. But how can this happen if the group that is in the best position to project Islam gets its attitudes from the west and considers Islam backward? Islam is a universal religion and that is why our
Prophet (PBUH) was called a mercy for all mankind. The Death of Lady Diana was very touching and was felt by all races and religions. As far I would like to comment on the subject goes that she had a great interest and admiration for the religion of Islam. She would always be inquisitive about it. After my marriage to Jemima she saw the wonders of Islam and how it had reformed Haiqa. As I hope, it has made the world realize that marriage to Dodi was not to be by the Grace of Allah. Maybe it would have been a great threat to the West of Lady Diana reverting to Islam, or even carrying an Islamic name, as she would have still been a mother of a future King. Only Allah knows the Truth, but all I can say is that she like Prince Charles had a great interest in the religion. And the probability of Lady Diana reverting was excellent.
http://www.khalidzaheer.com/essays/others/in_pakistan_we_have_selective_islam.html
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[h=1]for all of them who is doing propaganda about IK past, do read this and shut their mouths
In Pakistan, We Have Selective Islam[/h]
by Imran Khan
My Generation grew up at a time when colonial hang up was at its peak. Our older generation had been slaves and had a huge inferiority complex of the British. The school I went to was similar to all elite schools in Pakistan, despite becoming independent, they were, and still are, producing replicas of public school boys rather than Pakistanis. I read Shakespeare which was fine, but no Allama Iqbal. The Islamic class was not considered to be serious, and when I left the school I was considered amongst the elite of the country because I could speak English and wore western clothes. Despite periodically shouting Pakistan Zindabad at school functions, I considered my own culture backward and Islam an outdated religion. Amongst our group if anyone talked about religion, prayed or kept a beard he was immediately branded a Mullah. Because of the power of the Western Media, all our heroes were western movie or pop stars. When I went to Oxford already burdened with this hang up from my school days, things didn't get any easier. In University, not just Islam but all religions were considered anachronism. Science had replaced religion and if something couldn't be logically proved it did not exist. All supernatural stuff was confined to the movies. Philosophers like Darwin who with his half baked theory of evolution was supposed to have disproved the creation of man and hence religion. Moreover, the European history had an awful experience with religion. The horrors committed by the Christian clergy in the name of God during the Inquisition had left a powerful impact on the western mind. To understand why the West is so keen on secularism, one should go to places like Cordoba in Spain and see torture apparatus used during Spanish Inquisition. Also the persecution of scientists as heretics by the clergy and convinced the Europeans that all religions are regressive.
However, the biggest factor that drove people like me away from religion was the selective Islam practiced by most of its preachers. In other words, there was a huge difference between what they practiced and what they preached. Also, rather than explaining the philosophy behind the religion, there was an over emphasis on rituals. I feel that humans are different to animals whereas the latter can be drilled, humans need to be intellectually convinced. That is why the Quran constantly appeals to reason. The worst of course, was the exploitation of Islam for political gains by various individuals or groups.
Hence, it was a miracle I did not become an atheist. The only reason why I did not was the powerful religious influence wielded by my mother on me since my childhood. It was not so much out of conviction but love for her that I stayed a Muslim. However, my Islam was selective, that is, I accepted only parts of the religion that suited me. Prayers were restricted to Eid days and occasionally on Fridays, when my father insisted on taking me with him. If there was a God I was not sure about it and certainly felt that he did not interfere with my life. All in all I was smoothly moving to becoming a Pukka Brown Sahib [Totally Anglicized Pakistani]. After all I had the right credentials in terms of the right school, university and above all, acceptability in the English aristocracy, something that our brown sahibs would give their lives for. So what led me to do a lota [turn your back to] on the Brown Sahib culture and instead become a Desi? Well it did not just happen overnight.
Firstly, the inferiority complex that my generation had inherited gradually went as I developed into a world class athlete. Secondly, I had the unique position of living between two cultures. I began to see the advantages and the disadvantages of both the societies. In western societies, institutions were strong while they were collapsing in our country. However, there was an area where we were and still are superior, and that is our family life. I used to notice the loneliness of the old-age pensioners at Hove Cricket ground (during my Sussex years). Imagine sending your parents to Old Peoples' Homes! Even the children there never had the sort of love and warmth that we grew up with here. They completely miss out on the security blanket that a joint family system provides. However, I began to realize that the biggest loss to the western society and that in trying to free itself from the oppression of the clergy, they had removed both God and religion from their lives. While science can answer a lot of questions, no matter how much it progresses, two questions it will never be able to answer: One, what is the purpose of the existence and two, what happens to us when we die? It is this vacuum that I felt created the materialistic and the hedonistic culture. If this is the only life then one must make hay while the sun shines-and in order to do so one needs money. Such a culture is bound to cause psychological problems in a human being, as there is going to be an imbalance between the body and the soul. Consequently, in the USA, which has shown the greatest materialistic progress and also gives its citizens the greatest human rights, almost 60 per cent of the population consults psychiatrists. Yet, amazingly in modern psychology, there is no study of the human soul. Sweden and Switzerland, who provide the most welfare to their citizens, also have the highest suicide rates; hence, man is not necessarily content with material well being, he needs something more. Since all morality has it roots in religion, once religion was removed, immorality has progressively escalated since the 70's. The direct impact of it is on the family life. In UK, the divorce rate is 60 per cent, while it is estimated that there are over 35 per cent single mothers. The crime rate is rising in almost all western societies, but the most disturbing fact is the alarming increase in racism. While science always tries to prove the inequality of man (recent survey showing the American Black to be genetically less intelligent than whites) it is only religion which preaches the equality of man. Between '91 and '97, it was estimated that total immigration into Europe was around 520,000, and there were racially motivated attacks all over, especially in Britain, France and Germany. In Pakistan during the Afghan war, we had over four million refugees, and despite the people being so much poorer here and in the NWFP, they suffered a considerable loss in their standard of living as a result of the refugees yet, there was no racial tension. No wonder, last year in Britain religious education was reintroduced in their schools.
There was a sequence of events in the 80's that moved me towards God as the Quran says:
"There are signs for people of understanding."
One of them was cricket. As I was a student of the game, the more I understood the game, the more I began to realize that what I considered to be chance was, in fact, the will of Allah, the pattern which became clearer with time. But it was not until Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses that my understanding of Islam began to develop. People like me who were living in the western world bore the brunt of anti-Islam prejudice that followed the Muslim reaction to the book. We were left with two choices: fight or flight. Since I felt strongly that the attacks on Islam were unfair, I decided to fight. It was then I realized that I was not equipped to do so as my knowledge of Islam was inadequate. Hence, I started my research and for me a period of my greatest enlightenment. I read scholars like Ali Shariati, Mohammad Asad, Iqbal, Gai Eaton, plus of course, a study of the Holy Quran. I will try to explain as concisely as is possible, what "discovering the truth" meant for me. When the believers are addressed in the Quran, it always says,
"Those who believe and do good deeds."
In other words, a Muslim has dual function, one towards God and the other towards fellow human beings. The greatest impact of believing in God for me meant that I lost all fear of human beings. The Quran liberates man from man when it says that life and death and respect and humiliation are God's jurisdiction, so we do not have to bow before other human beings. As Iqbal puts it,
"Wo aik Sajda jisay tu giran samajhta hai, hazaar sajdon say deta hai admi ko nijaat"
The bowing that you despise is such that it will free from bowing down before millions.
Moreover, since this is a transitory world where we prepare for the eternal one, I broke out of the self-imposed prisons, such as growing old (such a curse in the western world, as a result of which, plastic surgeons are having a field day), materialism, ego, what people say and so on. It is important to note that one does not eliminate the earthly desires, simply that instead of being controlled by them, one controls them.
By following the second part of believing in Islam, I have become a better human being. Rather than being self-centered and living for the self, I feel that because the Almighty gave so much to me, in turn I must use that blessing to help the less privileged. By following the fundamentals of Islam rather than becoming a Kalashnikov-wielding fanatic. I have become a tolerant and a giving human being who feels compassion for the under privileged. Instead of attributing success to myself, I know it is because of God's will, hence humility instead of arrogance. Also, instead of the snobbish Brown Sahib attitude towards our masses, I believe in egalitarianism and strongly feel against the injustice done to the weak in our society according to the Quran,
"Oppression is worse than killing." In fact only now do I understand the true meaning of Islam, if you submit to the will of Allah, you have inner peace.
Through my faith, I have discovered strength within me that I never knew existed and that has released my potential in life. My education program
that I intend to announce is far more ambitious than the cancer hospital project. I feel that in Pakistan we have selective Islam. Just believing in
God and going through the rituals is not enough, one also has to be a good human being. I feel there are certain western countries with far more
Islamic traits than us, especially in the way they protect the rights of their citizens, or for that matter their justice system. In fact, some of the finest individuals I know live there. What I dislike about them is their double-standards in the way they protect the rights of their citizens and yet consider citizens of other countries as being somehow inferior to them as human beings, e.g. dumping toxic waste in the Third World, advertising cigarettes that are not allowed in the west and selling drugs that are banned in the west.
One of the problems facing Pakistan is the polarization of two reactionary groups. On one side is the westernized group that looks upon Islam through western eyes and has inadequate knowledge about the subject. It reacts to any one trying to impose Islam in the society and wants only a selective part of the religion. On the other extreme is the group that reacts to this westernized elite and in trying to become a defender of the faith, takes up such intolerant and self-righteous attitudes that are repugnant to the spirit of Islam.
What needs to be done is to somehow start a dialogue between the two extremes. In order for this to happen, the group on whom the greatest proportion of our educational resources are spent in this country must study Islam properly. Whether they become practicing Muslims or believe in God is entirely a personal choice; as the Quran tells us that there is "no compulsion in religion." However, they must arm themselves with knowledge as a weapon to fight extremism. By turning up their noses at extremism is not going to solve the problem. The Quran calls Muslims "the middle nation", i.e. not of extremes. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) was told to simply give the message and not worry whether people converted or not, therefore, there is no question in Islam of forcing your opinions on any one else. Moreover, we are told to respect other religions, their places of worship and their prophets. It should be noted that no Muslim missionaries or armies ever went to Malaysia or Indonesia. The people converted to Islam due to the high principles and impeccable character of the Muslim traders. At the moment, the worst advertisement for Islam are the Muslim countries with their selective Islam, especially where the religion is used to deprive people of their rights. In fact, a society that obeys fundamentals of Islam has to be a liberal one.
If our westernized class started to study Islam, not only will it be able to help our society fight sectarianism and extremism, but it will also make
them realize what a progressive religion Islam is. They will also be able to help the western world by articulating Islamic concepts. Last year, Prince
Charles accepted that the western world can learn from Islam during his speech at the Oxford Union. But how can this happen if the group that is in the best position to project Islam gets its attitudes from the west and considers Islam backward? Islam is a universal religion and that is why our
Prophet (PBUH) was called a mercy for all mankind. The Death of Lady Diana was very touching and was felt by all races and religions. As far I would like to comment on the subject goes that she had a great interest and admiration for the religion of Islam. She would always be inquisitive about it. After my marriage to Jemima she saw the wonders of Islam and how it had reformed Haiqa. As I hope, it has made the world realize that marriage to Dodi was not to be by the Grace of Allah. Maybe it would have been a great threat to the West of Lady Diana reverting to Islam, or even carrying an Islamic name, as she would have still been a mother of a future King. Only Allah knows the Truth, but all I can say is that she like Prince Charles had a great interest in the religion. And the probability of Lady Diana reverting was excellent.
http://www.khalidzaheer.com/essays/others/in_pakistan_we_have_selective_islam.html
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1-Man-Army
Senator (1k+ posts)
All kartoos has been fired......choice ab bas Imran Khan hi he.....
jo jitna uss ke khilaf bole ga, likhe ga.....without logic aur positive critism k.......woh ganda ho jae ga...jesa k ganda anda hota he aur usse torh ker phenk diya jata he.....
my vote is for IK
jo jitna uss ke khilaf bole ga, likhe ga.....without logic aur positive critism k.......woh ganda ho jae ga...jesa k ganda anda hota he aur usse torh ker phenk diya jata he.....
my vote is for IK
Just a few points:
- I think some people got the wrong end of the stick when I posted or may be I worded it wrong. I read the following beautiful Hadth about forgiveness and changing oneself which I hope everyone will appreciate especially since we are approaching Ramadn Sharf:
It is reported on the authority of `Abdullh (ibn Mas`d) radiyallhu `anhum who said: the Messenger of Allah (sallallhu `alayhi wa sallam) stated:
“gunah se (sachchi) tawba karne wala us shakhs ki manind he jis ne koi gunah kiya hi naho”
“The one who repents [sincerely] for a sin is like one WITHOUT SIN!”
al-Haytham states: “The narrators [of this Hadth] are narrators of the sahh (rigorously authenticated reporters).”
(Ibn Mja, as-Sunan, Kitbuz-zuhd, 2:1419, #425 at-Tabarn, al-Mu`jamul-kabr, 10:150, #10281 al-Bayhaq, as-Sunanul-kubra, 10:154; al-Haytham, Majma`uz-zaw’id, 10:200; Ibn Ja`d, al-Musnad, 1:266, #1756 al-Qud`, Musnadush-shihb, 1:97, #108 Kann, Misbhuz-zujja, 4:247, #1528 al-Bayhaq (on the authority of Ibn `Abbs), Shu`abul-mn, 5:436, #7178 and 7196; ad-Daylam, al-Firdaws bi-mthrul-khitb, 2:77, #2432 and 2433; Ibn Rajab, Jmi`ul-`ulm wal-hikam, 165, 395 and 4758; Cf. Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, al-Minhjus-saw min ahdthin-Nabaw, 407-408, #438)
- Secondly, can someone send me a link to the Imran Khan Cancer hospital please. This is worthy project to post about. I will post about it.
- Lastly, could someone remove this entire thread please.
- I think some people got the wrong end of the stick when I posted or may be I worded it wrong. I read the following beautiful Hadth about forgiveness and changing oneself which I hope everyone will appreciate especially since we are approaching Ramadn Sharf:
It is reported on the authority of `Abdullh (ibn Mas`d) radiyallhu `anhum who said: the Messenger of Allah (sallallhu `alayhi wa sallam) stated:
“gunah se (sachchi) tawba karne wala us shakhs ki manind he jis ne koi gunah kiya hi naho”
“The one who repents [sincerely] for a sin is like one WITHOUT SIN!”
al-Haytham states: “The narrators [of this Hadth] are narrators of the sahh (rigorously authenticated reporters).”
(Ibn Mja, as-Sunan, Kitbuz-zuhd, 2:1419, #425 at-Tabarn, al-Mu`jamul-kabr, 10:150, #10281 al-Bayhaq, as-Sunanul-kubra, 10:154; al-Haytham, Majma`uz-zaw’id, 10:200; Ibn Ja`d, al-Musnad, 1:266, #1756 al-Qud`, Musnadush-shihb, 1:97, #108 Kann, Misbhuz-zujja, 4:247, #1528 al-Bayhaq (on the authority of Ibn `Abbs), Shu`abul-mn, 5:436, #7178 and 7196; ad-Daylam, al-Firdaws bi-mthrul-khitb, 2:77, #2432 and 2433; Ibn Rajab, Jmi`ul-`ulm wal-hikam, 165, 395 and 4758; Cf. Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, al-Minhjus-saw min ahdthin-Nabaw, 407-408, #438)
- Secondly, can someone send me a link to the Imran Khan Cancer hospital please. This is worthy project to post about. I will post about it.
- Lastly, could someone remove this entire thread please.
Farooq Khan
MPA (400+ posts)
your right people like rafiq they need to get out of knicker but i think they can not say anything against Imran Khan whenever these Jealous people open their critics only one his girlfriend or his personal life but the same people forget to mention about their masters from politics who pay them to write against Imran Khan we will not attack anybody regarding their personal life this is bad and not good for real democracy.
Serving Islam
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Moderators
Please delete this thread , as thread started has also said" - , could someone remove this entire thread please. "
Please delete this thread , as thread started has also said" - , could someone remove this entire thread please. "
waqasmehmood
Citizen
1st of all Mr. Rafiq i should inform u k ALLAH humary aebon urr gunahon pe parda dall k rakhta ha urr wo aise hi loogon ko pasand b krta ha jo dusron k aebon ko open na krny
2ndly mere dost bahesiyat quam humari problem ye ha k hum bus tanqeed krna chaty hain chahy us myn koi wazan ho ya na ho. sary k sary politicians corrupt hain ye hum sub janty hain lakin phir b un k pechy bhagty hain bar bar unhi logon ko vote dyte hain urr phir unhi loogon ko galiyan
hr insaan ki tarhan Imran Khan (IK) ki b aik personal life ha urr us myn interfere krny ka haq humain nhi ha han jis cheez ko humain dekhna ha wo ye ha k jo duty ek nation apne kisi person ko dati ha kiya wo person wo duty puri kr raha ha ya nahi ye jis kaam k paise ek nation apny kisi person ko dyti ha wo kaam wo banda imaandari se kr raha ha ya nhi
urr jb hum is bary myn dekhty hain to humain ye nazar ata ha k jb IK ek cricketer tha tb hum yani nation us ko pay krty thy achi cricket khilny k liye urr aj kon Pakistani ha jo is baat se inkaar kry k as a cricketer IK ne deliver nhi kiya kia us ne humain world champion nhi banaya? ab is se agy us ki kia life thi us se humain concern nhi hona chahye
dusri tarf ab IK politics myn ha 1996 se ab tak koi aik aisa case humain nhi milta jo IK ko corrupt sabit kr saky urr is ko b chorain aik baar national assembly ka member b rah choka ha IK urr aj us k mokhalfeen ki haqumat ha lakin koi aik corruption case us pe sabit kr k dekha dy lakin ho ga to krain ga na
urr dusri tarf nawaz shareef, zardari urr baki politicians hain un ko b nation aik job k liye pay krti ha to kiya in myn se kisi ne b apni job imandaari se nibhai? ofcourse not
so my dear frnd imran khan ho ya koi urr us ki personal life se humain kuch lyna dyna nhi humain to sirf is baat se concern ha k hum apny taxes se jin loogon ko pay krty hain kiya wo loog wo specific jobs imaandari se nibha rhy hain ya nhi
mere dost Islamic history myn ek naam sub ka jana phechana ha "sultan salah ud din ayubi" jis ko hr musalman bila tafreek apna hero manta ha kiun k us ne kaam hi aisa sandaar kiya tha main to us ko apna ideal manta hon ur hr kisi ko kahta hon k us ki history lazmi parhain app ko bhot kuch sekhny ka moka mily ga. salah ud din ayubi apni young age myn waisa hi tha jaisa k aik ameer ghr ka larka hota tha wo rang-o-saror ki mehfilain b sajata tha sarab b pita tha lakin phr achnak se us ki zindagi change ho gyi ur us ne wo azeem kaam kr diya jis ko na us se phely koi kr saka na us k baad aj tak koi kr saka ha to kia us k past ki waja se us ko bura bhala kahna suro kr dyn ya us k us azeem karnamain ki tarf dekhain jo us ne kiya???
junaid jamsheed ko ALLAH ne hidayat di urr wo gana bajana chor kr ALLAH k deen ki tarf aa gya to kiya us k past ki tarf dekhain ya us k present ki tarf??
jb koi sidhi rah pe aa k kuch acha krna chahy to us ko appreciate krna chahy na k us k past ki waja se us ko zalil
hum ne baki sub ko as politician apny vote dy k dekh liya koi b deliver nhi kr paya to imran khan ne to phir b kuch na kuch deliver kiya ha to phir kiun na baki corrupt loogon ki bajaiy aik aise bandy ko apny voton ki taqat dyn jo kam az kam corrupt to nhi ha kiu kiya khayal ha???
2ndly mere dost bahesiyat quam humari problem ye ha k hum bus tanqeed krna chaty hain chahy us myn koi wazan ho ya na ho. sary k sary politicians corrupt hain ye hum sub janty hain lakin phir b un k pechy bhagty hain bar bar unhi logon ko vote dyte hain urr phir unhi loogon ko galiyan
hr insaan ki tarhan Imran Khan (IK) ki b aik personal life ha urr us myn interfere krny ka haq humain nhi ha han jis cheez ko humain dekhna ha wo ye ha k jo duty ek nation apne kisi person ko dati ha kiya wo person wo duty puri kr raha ha ya nahi ye jis kaam k paise ek nation apny kisi person ko dyti ha wo kaam wo banda imaandari se kr raha ha ya nhi
urr jb hum is bary myn dekhty hain to humain ye nazar ata ha k jb IK ek cricketer tha tb hum yani nation us ko pay krty thy achi cricket khilny k liye urr aj kon Pakistani ha jo is baat se inkaar kry k as a cricketer IK ne deliver nhi kiya kia us ne humain world champion nhi banaya? ab is se agy us ki kia life thi us se humain concern nhi hona chahye
dusri tarf ab IK politics myn ha 1996 se ab tak koi aik aisa case humain nhi milta jo IK ko corrupt sabit kr saky urr is ko b chorain aik baar national assembly ka member b rah choka ha IK urr aj us k mokhalfeen ki haqumat ha lakin koi aik corruption case us pe sabit kr k dekha dy lakin ho ga to krain ga na
urr dusri tarf nawaz shareef, zardari urr baki politicians hain un ko b nation aik job k liye pay krti ha to kiya in myn se kisi ne b apni job imandaari se nibhai? ofcourse not
so my dear frnd imran khan ho ya koi urr us ki personal life se humain kuch lyna dyna nhi humain to sirf is baat se concern ha k hum apny taxes se jin loogon ko pay krty hain kiya wo loog wo specific jobs imaandari se nibha rhy hain ya nhi
mere dost Islamic history myn ek naam sub ka jana phechana ha "sultan salah ud din ayubi" jis ko hr musalman bila tafreek apna hero manta ha kiun k us ne kaam hi aisa sandaar kiya tha main to us ko apna ideal manta hon ur hr kisi ko kahta hon k us ki history lazmi parhain app ko bhot kuch sekhny ka moka mily ga. salah ud din ayubi apni young age myn waisa hi tha jaisa k aik ameer ghr ka larka hota tha wo rang-o-saror ki mehfilain b sajata tha sarab b pita tha lakin phr achnak se us ki zindagi change ho gyi ur us ne wo azeem kaam kr diya jis ko na us se phely koi kr saka na us k baad aj tak koi kr saka ha to kia us k past ki waja se us ko bura bhala kahna suro kr dyn ya us k us azeem karnamain ki tarf dekhain jo us ne kiya???
junaid jamsheed ko ALLAH ne hidayat di urr wo gana bajana chor kr ALLAH k deen ki tarf aa gya to kiya us k past ki tarf dekhain ya us k present ki tarf??
jb koi sidhi rah pe aa k kuch acha krna chahy to us ko appreciate krna chahy na k us k past ki waja se us ko zalil
hum ne baki sub ko as politician apny vote dy k dekh liya koi b deliver nhi kr paya to imran khan ne to phir b kuch na kuch deliver kiya ha to phir kiun na baki corrupt loogon ki bajaiy aik aise bandy ko apny voton ki taqat dyn jo kam az kam corrupt to nhi ha kiu kiya khayal ha???
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<span style="color:#b22222"><font size="2">i cant understand these paid tatoos of status quo parties are even brain less. here are some of my questions for them if they can answer <br><br>1. the DNA test was never done. any independed international news or prof which can be proven in court of law if you have then share with us? its fake propoganda against imran khan that DNA was done. sita white claimed he is father and she wanted to use khan as surname for her daughter which imran refused and she went to court on that and court summned irman khan on it where lawyer of imran said in court that he is paksitani citizen its not possible for him to come to court to usa if she has such a claim she is welcome to come to pakistan and take the case in paksitani court. and thats how court in the usa accepted and advised sita white to lauch proceedings aginst imran khan in pakistani court which was never done by sita white and thats it .<br><br>2. i myself asked well learnt ullmah and they said untill the sex between man and woman is not proven it does not fall under the category of zina, just meeting with women, shaking hands with them, sitting with them even holding their hand does not make them **** as this guy is trying to prove. <br><br>3. tell me a single international politican or celebrity even including kings of KSA who do not meet women in different official or unofficial events.<br><br>4. imran khan never claimed that he was an angel and no one is angel if he has done something wrong or has not done something wrong behind closed doors only Allah knows. but we only know his public life and that is he is honest, clean, someone who loves the country and nation <br><br>5. even if you consider the past history of our beloved sahaba before converting to islam do u think their life was like angels in their private life? no so does it mean we should judge them on their past private life ? zulfiqar ali bhutto openly admitted in jalsa that he drinks but in his political life he did more good for the national than hypocrates like zardari, nawaz, altaf etc. <br><br>you poodles of status quo parties cant change mind of people with these tactics, we all know as elections will come close the paid proganda machine of corrupt zardari, nawaz and altaf will speed up personal attacks against irman khan ( as if others are angels) but inshallah you will not be able to fool people. <br><br>if you ask me, if on one hand there is a leader who says 5 times prayer and is tajat quzaar but is corrupt, munafiq, dishonest and poodle of foriegn power, and on the other hand there is leader who is may be not angel in his personal life but is honest, nation loving, visionary, i will for sure go for the second option.</font></span> <br><br>4.
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