Pakistan released indian citizen but what Indians have done to Pakistani citizens...
Pakistan1992
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
they have sent Pakistani's mentally disabled
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/a-warm-stay-in-india-for-rescued-pak-sailors/162500-3.html
A warm stay in India for rescued Pak sailors
A warm stay in India for rescued Pak sailors
Indians have done so much for Pakistanis, from exporting terror to Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa[ providing support from the Indian consulates in Jalalabad, Kabul.] to blowing up major pipelines, to add to the misery of an ordinary Pakistani, India has played its role well, as US directed Delhi in 2009 to shutdown its Afghan consulates being maintained to destabilize Pakistan by sendin criminal and terrorist elements thru the porous border "Durand Line":
http://www.zimbio.com/World+Politics/articles/4193/Delhi+Shut+down+Indian+Consulates+Afghanistan
For what it has been doing against Pakistan, fearing every Pakistani muslim entering India[as Pak hindus are treated better than even Bangladeshi migrants, on their "speedy" path to Indian citizenship], they arrest visiting Pakistanis, involve their bloody bas*ard media in projecting the person as a terrorist and throw him away in jail for years without ever charging him, later they transfer them to notorious Jodhpur jail where PAkistanis face brutal animal-like physical and mental torture[contrast that with the way our police treats their fishermen], most end up suffering from permanent bruises all over their body,[thru constant electrocution] and psychological ailments ranging from schizophrenia to complete mental disability, where person loses his memory and becomes a vegetable[dull,inactive person].
It depends from person to person, but some don't survive and mostly die which eventually closes his case under the Indian law.
One example was the coffin carrying dead body of a young Khalid Mehmood who Indians handed over as a gift after Ghaddar Ansar Burney secured the release of RAW terrorist Kashmir Singh:
The tale of Khalid Mehmood and Kashmir Singh
Khalid Mehmood, Kashmir Singh reflect Pak, Indian mindsets
ISLAMABAD ( 2008-03-11 01
As the dead body of ill-fated Pakistani prisoner Khalid Mehmood arrives back home today, the human rights activists are facing harsh questions by the media and the general public in Pakistan why they had put immense pressure over the Pakistani government for the pardon and release of an Indian spy - Kashmir Singh.
As the Pakistanis seen-off Kashmir Singh at Wagah Border amid joy and laughter last week, they are assembling again today at the same point to receive the body of an innocent Pakistani cricket-lover amid tears and grief.
Mehmood had visited India as a spectator to enjoy the Pak-India Cricket series and was reportedly picked up by Indian secret agencies. Indian media reported that Mehmood had died of severe torture by the Indian jail officials.
The arrival of his body to Pakistan is a question mark over the human rights groups of India.
Bhago Begum, the Pakistani citizen, who was freed last year from an Indian jail, narrated the conditions in which Pakistani prisoners were kept in jails as 'dreadful'.
She termed the authorities of Indian jails 'heartless' as the Pakistani prisoners remain a target of routine 'physical abuse' and verbal humiliation at the hands of Indian officials.
Like Bhago Begum, there are many other Pakistani nationals who continue to suffer at the hands of Indian authorities in draconian Indian jails without trial.
Though the Indian media has frequently reflected the suffering of Pakistani prisoners, admitted to hospitals in serious conditions, after being picked by the Indian intelligence under espionage charges that were never proved in courts, yet the Indian officials are reluctant to pay heed to such charges.
On the other side of the border, an Indian national Kashmir Singh was pardoned by President Musharraf and was released from Pakistani jail last week.
On his way home from Wagah Border, Singh carried memories of humane treatment in Pakistan jails despite being a spy -- a fact he admitted as soon as he returned to India after 35-year imprisonment.
The grey-haired Singh looked physically fit and cheerful after his release, in sharp contrast to the miserable condition of Pakistani prisoners languishing in Indian jails without catching any attention from the human rights activists.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=54166
[MENTION=9173]rakeem[/MENTION]
dont spread trash around...there is too much trust deficit between india and pakistan!
There are only 4 consulates in afganistan from last 40 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJxJUrgufoA
Pakistan is denounced by world over its role in terrorism in all kinds of forms world have seen in last 20 yrs!!I think,you do know it better right from inflitration of 20000 militants in kashmir to 100 blasts carried out pakistan agency and terorists groups.militants alone have killed 40000 innocent kashmiris!!just see the Humane rights report on it...on the other hand,the bombs and terrorist suicides blasts happening in pakistan is its own creation!you reap what you sow !India have no interest in balochistan .India only interest in afganistan is to keep it safe from militants and taliban ,and keep it peaceful ,away from pakistani supported taliban!!
its 2011 and in todays world,pakistan cant justify jihad,religious war and terrorism against other nation as it did against india in 1990's and afgan in 1980's!!
dont spread trash around...there is too much trust deficit between india and pakistan!
There are only 4 consulates in afganistan from last 40 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJxJUrgufoA
Pakistan is denounced by world over its role in terrorism in all kinds of forms world have seen in last 20 yrs!!I think,you do know it better right from inflitration of 20000 militants in kashmir to 100 blasts carried out pakistan agency and terorists groups.militants alone have killed 40000 innocent kashmiris!!just see the Humane rights report on it...on the other hand,the bombs and terrorist suicides blasts happening in pakistan is its own creation!you reap what you sow !India have no interest in balochistan .India only interest in afganistan is to keep it safe from militants and taliban ,and keep it peaceful ,away from pakistani supported taliban!!
its 2011 and in todays world,pakistan cant justify jihad,religious war and terrorism against other nation as it did against india in 1990's and afgan in 1980's!!
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I ain't need to spread the trash around, when you're here to do your abettors' dirty work, what I've posted is'nt fiction, if you doubt it I'lll post the content from yours' truly Indian media reports on the plight of Pakistani prisoners, thrown in indian jails without being charged for many years. Your excuse about Indian consular activity for the last "40 years" is kinda laughable, as India actually halted consular operations in Kabul in 95/96, in wake of Taliban takeover, and the consulates in Jalalabad and in south were opened after 2002, with the help and support of the occupiers [USA].
You talked about the deaths in Kashmir, but conveniently forgot the extra-judicial murders, rapes,torture and other state sponsored terrorism by the BSF[Indian security forces], suppression of political thought [which are still being practiced] and countless other charges alleged by UN, UK,USA, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty Int.[none of these entities are Pakistani] on different periods of time during the 90s-till now, India is reaping what it has sowed in separatist movements from the Northeast to the Maoists Insurgents, all over the country, and still does not have the political will to change its behaviour.
kistan is sowing is due to US occupation of Afghanistan and the war they're trying to win badly in trying to keep a permanent base in the region, and in my post US spy agencies found tangible proof of RAW involvement in the bombing of Peshawar Hotel, and the blowing up of gas pipelines across Balochistan and funding different terror activities in the province. PM Manmohan Singhji himself acknowledged about India's involvement in Balochistan in the bilateral meeting in Sharm al sheikh and allowed it to be made part of Indo-Pak joint statement.
And regards to the terrorism inside Pakistan, there is reasonable doubt that India/USA RAW/JSOC nexus is behind terrorism in Pakistan from car bombings, and remote controlled explosions, in Pakistan which were first deemed as suicide blasts, after which thru CCTV footage found the Pak police neanderthals position baseless.
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Give me proofs of indian involvement in balochistan!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGkW_pvU98
What do you expect indian ambassadors to be killed by inhumane taliban formed by your army,and isi!!
it seems ,you justify afganistan to be run by brutals taliban and uneducated jihadi?
Why do you want to keep them like your slaves?,while you continue to live free ???
As i said,i dont need to discuss more on such topics..Moreover if pakistan wants to discuss balochistan and kasmir together,we have no problems !!
give freedom to balochistan that will motivate india to think about kashmir!
World have not forgotten 2-3 million genocide in bangladesh(next after jews),3-4 laks women raped!!Pakistan is not in position to question any country
India is currently in better position to handle extremism,resent,terrorism in any parts of india!!Come with something new to talk about!!
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Bangladeshis regard India as an enemy state that tried to rule them by proxy, and neither the Indian govt. nor Bangladeshi govt. ever registered the force pak army used in 1971 as a genocide, as there were Indian infiltrations of Mukti Bahini and other groups fomenting terror and arsonry against Biharis, adivasis and other non-bengalis.
Your estimates of 2-3 million have actually gone past the estimates that some Bangladeshi professors in US try to propagate, if you have such a soft heart for Bangladeshis, than start from your own country where there are more than 2-3 million Bangladeshi migrants who are being denied pathway to Indian citizenship, whereas other nationalities are allowed to legally enter pathway to citizensip, especially Pakistani hindus, on the false premises of "india Shining"[for the rich that is not for the poverty stricken]
One can see the Indian handling of the MV Suez Indian sailor issue how India is very much "able" to handle crises.
Only after PAk frigate Babur replied to MV Suez SOS, going by the bloody Indian mindset of facing humiliation, tried aggression to stop PNS Babur in helping MV Suez, but failed miserably, with the impotent naval chief showing his sorry stupid face to Indian media with some counter allegations against the very ship that saved Indian lives. And off course Maoists are showing more guile and valour in taking on BSF and other paramilitary Indian machinery, that thinks torture and suppression is the solution to everything.
Some slaves Afghans are of us, who bad mouth us, live on our help in world's biggest refugee camps[3 mil. according to UN]and then roam around our country freely, targeting Pakistani jobs to Pakistani civilians.
Its actually vice versa, since the 70s using different occupiers and local elements in Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan.
Thinking that keeping war in Pakistan, by humiliating them, will somehow breakup Pakistan, and cure all their separatist movements and all their ills in the world's largest corrupt system called Indian Govt., which also have been proven false.
Indian interference in Balochistan and its mention in joint statement at Sharm al sheikh:
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canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tearful homecoming for Indian sailors
By Aditi Phadnis
Published: June 25, 2011
Crew of Egyptian-registered boat M.V. Suez who were held hostages by Somali pirates wave upon their arrival at the Pakistani port city of Karachi on June 23, 2011. PHOTO: AFP/FILE
NEW DELHI: It was a bitter-sweet homecoming for six Indian sailors who were reunited with their families on Thursday morning in the full glare of the media, following their ten-month ordeal at the hands of Somali pirates. Even though the Indian sailors were reassured by the presence of their families, the absence of any government official was quite conspicuous.
Older members of their families broke into tears at the Indira Gandhi International Airport at their sight as younger members carried placards that read ‘Thank you, Ansar Burney uncle, we love you’.
Hugging his three-year-old son, Ravinder Singh Bhulia, one of the released crew members who hails from Rohtak, said, “The Indian and Pakistani media helped us a lot. As far as the Indian government’s role in the release, I don’t want to comment on it”.
With tears rolling down her cheeks, his wife Champa said, “The pain will never go”.
Another released crew member Prashant Chauhan said, “I am very happy. I waited for this moment for 10 months”. “The Pakistan government has done a lot for us. Their ship Babur came to our rescue. We called up Indian ship Godavari a number of times but they never responded,” Chauhan said, adding: “We were chained and treated like animals.”
N K Sharma, another released crew member, said, “Whatever the Pakistan government has done is really praiseworthy. We don’t know what the Indian government did or did not do, but the Pakistan government treated us well.”
Senior Indian officials also thanked Pakistan for its help in the release of the sailors.
Appreciating Islamabad’s help in ensuring their safe return External Affairs Minister SM Krishna said, “We are relieved their ordeal has ended and they will be safely back with their families. We appreciate the help extended to them by the Pakistan Navy.” Krishna also said more concerted efforts were needed to tackle the threat posed by pirates. “Let us not forget that the ordeal of over 500 sailors from across the world, who are still in captivity of the pirates, is not yet over,” he said.
The Indian sailors recounted the horrors they faced during their 10-month captivity by Somali pirates who kept them in chains, often without food or water, and treated them “like animals”. Recounting his ordeal, Sharma said they starved for many days and on some days they just got water.
“We used to get boiled rice, spaghetti and potato once a week,” he said.
Satnam Singh was one of the six released Indian sailors rescued from the captivity of Somali pirates of the Gulf of Aden 10 months ago.
Satnam’s mother Surinder Kaur didn’t sleep the whole night. When she spotted her son alighting from the Emirates flight that rolled in from Dubai this morning, she could barely keep herself from sobbing out loud.
Satnam’s mother and father Shamsher Singh said they had lived in fear and desperation for over 10 months waiting for the news of their son. They said Satnam’s release from the clutches of the pirates was nothing short of a rebirth for him.
The 22-member crew of the ship had reached Karachi on Thursday evening, 10 days after they were freed after paying a ransom of $2.1 million, collected by NGO Ansar Burney Welfare Trust.
Fate of Pakistani sailors
Five Pakistani sailors were rescued by Indian navy in March after their vessel was attacked off the coast of Kerala, in southern India, late last year. They have been housed at a police station in Mumbai since, awaiting clearance to return home. Their Iranian, Thai, Bangladeshi, Filipino and Turkish colleagues left India soon after the rescue.
“An assistant commissioner from the Pakistan High Commission (in New Delhi) visited the police station on Friday and interacted with the five sailors from his country,” Inspector MG Tope told the Press Trust of India. The news agency quoted an unnamed police source as saying that the Pakistanis were likely to be able to leave next week.
With additional input from the news wires
Published in The Express Tribune, June 25th, 2011.
qamar_zaman
Councller (250+ posts)
it is not a new thing but unfortunately we never learnt any lesson from their behaviour
Indian media have some kind of a complex, there response is laughable, warm stay in Indian jail for 3 months[you gotta be kidding], there still playing their one-upmanship.
Afridi was criticised for saying the truth about India that Pakistanis are large-hearted compared to Indians, Indians suffer from complex and are very narrow-minded. As soon as PAk Navy frigate PNS Babur got an SOS from MV Suez, they immediately went to save them, even though they were provoked by Indian Navy Godavari, but they still stayed on plan, rescued the sailors, brought them back to Karachi, the Governor contacted the embassy officials of sailors' respective countries to be there, did the necessary paperwork, and in 3 hours all the foreign sailors were escorted to the airport, on their respective flights' back to their countries, this is Pakistan.
Can Indian media explain the 'warmth', which the innocent sailors are experiencing in a Mumbai jail for 3 months. Bloody fuglyindian losers.
They were not in jai..they lived in police station in guest house...police paid for the rent and food!!
See the interview !!bureaucracy is slow in india....india wanted pak embassy to attest them that they are pakistanis!!
kasab is in jail...govt has spent 50 crore on him...burden on taxpayers!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPe9zGr3TlY&feature=player_embedded
Difference in both the cases are :
1.India arrested the piratess ; ship with 100 pirates; pirates and hostage mixed in the group to hide from indian navy!!
india needed pak embassy to prove the persons are authentic!!pak embassy took 3 months to do it.
In case of pakistan hostage case:
Pakistan didnt arrest anyone..they got the hostage released..so all relased were sent at once !!
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