My Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan


جناب یہ میرا خود کا لکھا ہوا ہے۔ آپنے سہی کہا میں کوئ پی ٹی آئ آفیشل نہیں۔ نام نہیں لکھا کیونکہ یہاں سب سمجھ گئے ہیں یہ مینے ہی لکھا ہے۔

I knew that you silly boy :biggthumpup:
 

Haider2332

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

mere pyaare pyaare bhai!!!! india ne saare tv channels pe keh diya ke mumbai hamlo mein pakistan invovle hai aur Allah kare na hu. lekin unho ne saboot diye hain pakistan government ko.... tu agar raw pakistan mein involve hai to pakistan ko bhi unko suboot dena chahiye.. tu is mein GHQ ki kya baat hai.. india khullam khulla de sakta hai to pakistan kyu nahi... aur doosri baat ye ke hum itne baar in haramiyo se dusay ja chukay hain ke ab humain kisi per bharosa hi nahi raha. kitne mulko ki misaalay hamrain paas hain jin mein 180 degree ka change agaya. lekin hum phir bhi kehtain hain ke imran bhi in haramiyo jesa hai. is marta halaat wo nahi rahe army khud ko sambhal le tu wohi kaafi hoga un ke liye. aur aap ne farmaya keh imran ko definite statements nahi deni chahiye future pe arrey meri bhai wo nawaz shareef to nahi jo kat puthli ban jayega. inshaallah aap bharosa rakhain

Salaam....Jani India ke saboot aapne kab dekh liye?? hum tu roz akhbaaron mein parhte hein ke Pakistan saboot maang raha hai aur wo Hafiz Saeed ko maang rahe hein. Jab saboot diye to list mein maujood kai bandey kab ke mar chukey thay aur documents bhi complete nahin thay. Pata nahin kaisey India subko itna pakeeza lagne lag gaya hai... kya yeh saboot koi Pak vs India cricket match ki ticket hai jo news channel per chalwa di jaye?? mein tu kisi country ko media per documents dete hue nahin dekha. Aapka pata nahi kahan se Indian saboot dekh liye. Agar wo saboot GHQ mein nahin aur Rehman Malik ke paas bhi hon tu wo Imran ko q dikhaye??? kya post hai uske paas abi? kuch nahin. Sub kuch pyar se nahin milta dunya mein. Political aur military, donon means chahye hote hein. Imran ko Political front sambhalna chahye aur Military ko baandkh ker India ke hawale kerne ki baat nahin kerni chahye warna clash hoga aur wo hum mein se koi nahin chahta. Mein bhi Imran ka fan hun lekin kya wo immortal hai?? Chalo usne 2/3 le li aur aik month ke baad koi usey Liaquat Ali Khan ki tarha maar de tu kahan jaein ge hum? Is liye kisi aik fard ke liye institution ko weak ker dene mein koi samajhdaari nahin. Baaki Allah behtar jaanta hai. Neither me nor anyone else is perfect.
 

mithyaa

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Jahan tak mujhe ilm hai, Hz Umar RA say kisi nay ikhtilaaf nahi kiya aur na hi shor machaya. Hz Khalid Bin Waleed RA aur Hz Bilal RA ka waqiya aapko maloom hoga aur agar unhon nay kuch nahi kaha to phir aur koi kuch kahay, kiski mijaal hai?

Aapnay jo baat ki us per reaction yeh hi banta hai kyunkay jis had tak ki ghalazat iss site per dekhne ko mili hai, us say yeh hi zaahir hota hai. Aur haan, maine nahi kaha kay aap Haider hai to Momin hongay, Musalmaan bhi ho saktay hain.

Jahan tak rahi baat, "be Pakistani first" ki to main iss baat say ta hayat ikhtilaaf kerta rahunga kyunkay hum pehlay musalmaan hain. Agar hum pehlay Pakistani hotay to hum deegar mazahib kay Pakistaniyon say shaadi kernay main takleef ka izhaar nahi kertay.

Agar aap pehlay Pakistani hain, to apnay ghar kabhi kisi Isai, Qadiyani ya Hindu Pakistani ko laa ker dikhaye ga amma say milanay - aap ko to khud yeh baat qaabil e qabul na hogi, iss liye mere bhai, hum pehlay musalmaan hi hain chahay jitna bhi nationalism ka naara laga lain

Aakhri baat yeh hai kay humari dushmani India say jo hai, uss main Musalmaan per jo guzarti hai, uska bhi sochiye

Jo aap per apni aag nahi nikaal saktay, woh un per nikaaltay hain aur aap agar ghaur kerain to India ki demographics bhi dekh lain

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[TH="class: headerSort"]Religious
group[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Population
% 1961[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Population
% 1971[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Population
% 1981[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Population
% 1991[/TH]
[TH="class: headerSort"]Population
% 2001[/TH]
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[TH]Hindu[/TH]
[TD]83.45%[/TD]
[TD]82.73%[/TD]
[TD]82.30%[/TD]
[TD]81.53%[/TD]
[TD]80.46%[/TD]
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[TH]Muslim[/TH]
[TD]10.69%[/TD]
[TD]11.21%[/TD]
[TD]11.75%[/TD]
[TD]12.61%[/TD]
[TD]13.43%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Christian[/TH]
[TD]2.44%[/TD]
[TD]2.60%[/TD]
[TD]2.44%[/TD]
[TD]2.32%[/TD]
[TD]2.34%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Sikh[/TH]
[TD]1.79%[/TD]
[TD]1.89%[/TD]
[TD]1.92%[/TD]
[TD]1.94%[/TD]
[TD]1.87%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Buddhist[/TH]
[TD]0.74%[/TD]
[TD]0.70%[/TD]
[TD]0.70%[/TD]
[TD]0.77%[/TD]
[TD]0.77%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]Animist, others[/TH]
[TD]0.43%[/TD]
[TD]0.41%[/TD]
[TD]0.42%[/TD]
[TD]0.44%[/TD]
[TD]0.72%[/TD]
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[TH]Jain[/TH]
[TD]0.46%[/TD]
[TD]0.48%[/TD]
[TD]0.47%[/TD]
[TD]0.40%[/TD]
[TD]0.41%[/TD]
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Source yeh hai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_India#Demographics

Wahan aap dekh saktay hain kay Pakistan say dushmani ki wajah say jo unhain musalmaanon say nafrat hai (aksariyat ki baat ker raha hun, baqi waisay bhi nafrat kertay hain, us main shak nahi), uskay bawajood, Hindu islam main daakhil huay aur baaqi qaumon ki statistics waisi hi rahien hain

aur to aur, aap kay bhi aba-o-ajdad Hinduon main say hi thay to agar woh Musalmaan ho gaye aur aaj hum beth ker Hinduon ko gaalian daitay hain, to humain kia haq banta hai kay yeh kerain apnay hi khoon kay saath?

Agar aapka poora khandaan Hindu hota aur aap Musalmaan ho jatay to aap unka qatl-e-aam shuro ker daitay ya aapnay kaha qatal ki baat nahi kertay to phir kiya aap unsay nafrat kertay?

Nahi, aap samjhatay, behlatay aur chahtay kay woh bhi Haq SWT ki taraf apna rukh kerain.

Mera to yeh hi maan na hai, baqi aap ko azaadi e raye ka haq hai

The increase in percentage of muslim population in India is due to higher birth rate not due to conversions. It is projected that the birthrate among muslims in India is 10% higher than the birthrate among hindus in India.
 

Rommel

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

PTI, we have advised you clearly and sincerely
Posted on December 16, 2012 by Believer
By Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

To the PTI members, Let us give you a sincere advice and an example.

I may be a very sincere, honest, clean man but I cannot perform a heart surgery. I will kill the man if I try to do this.

I may be a very sincere man, very well meaning, very honest, very dignified but I cannot fly a Boeing 777 plane. I will crash it and kill everyone in it if I try to do that.
Got it???

When it comes to leading a nation in crisis, fighting multiple wars, facing global conspiracies, planning and protecting the future of next generations, reforming the massively corrupt judiciary, executive and public sector and creating a new generation of free nation capable of leading the region in the 21st century, then it is NOT enough that I am a sincere man, clean, honest, dignified and well meaning. The task demands a man with Iqbals vision and Quaids wisdom.

Our entire fate, future, honour, generations, faith and security is at stake and Imran is not the man for it, especially NOT with the present set of advisers he has. Imran has no experience or knowledge of complex Geo-politics, global economy, war doctrines and impact of information warfare and perception management. If he had a wise and patriotic set of advisers, we might have considered that he may make a difference. But that is not the case, tragically.Even Hazrat Ali (RA) acknowledged that the chaos and anarchy in his times is due to the bad advisers around him!! No man, even if he is a dictator, can avoid advice of closest people around him!!

Elections, even if they are totally free and fair, only have a 33 percent chance that PTI will come into power. Even if it comes in power, the topmost advisers of Imran would be Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiqs of the time. If anyone thinks that Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Khursheed Qasuri will not be able to influence Imran and have reformed and done tauba from being CIA agents, then he must be totally insane. At least we cannot trust our future and faith on these snakes.

If PTI does not win absolute majority, you will not form coalition government and you will sit in the opposition as Imran has said. In that case, whats the point of elections?????
For Allahs sake, wake up. We understand your passion and emotions but the solution you are proposing is fatal with no margin for tauba once you are committed to it.

We at BrassTacks are not your enemies. We are not a political party to compete you. While we have most severely attacked all other political parties, we are only advising you sincerely. But if you insist upon the fatal strategy, then we will stand against you on matter of principle and ideology.

The solution is patriotic caretakers for 3 years at least who would do exactly what you say should be done and much more, WITHOUT ELECTIONS!! If you are sincere with Pakistan and are not power hungry only, then you must support this idea. Free and fair elections are NOT possible. As we write, the entire Karachi is closed, sealed and under siege as the CJ has sent a notice to that London based gangster. The same would happen in elections, even if the army is present. The recipe is ripe for massive violence and civil war. You have completely ignored the deployed 4th Generation war, Af-Pak and Cold Start!! How dangerously naive you can be ????

We have advised you clearly and sincerely. Remain witness that we have conveyed the message. Now you are responsible for what you do. May Allah have mercy upon this millat and forgive its collective suicide.

ZH


 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Where as I disagree with Imran's views on Kashmir and refusal to point out Bharati involvement in Balochistan together with our stance on Siachen etc his economic policy makes much more sense then Zaid's obsession with going to war against the entire world!! If Zaid Hamid considers himself too be the one with all the answers then why not get involved in politics or form your own party instead of spewing frustration upon those who disagree. We are no longer living in the times of Salahuddin Ayubbi or Muhammad Bin Qasim where a thousand men on horseback can invade a nation.

Like it or not Pakistan is bankrupt whilst the rulers continue to waste money like never before so we need to get out of this WOT then become self-dependent. Neither we or the American's are in a position to go to war like Zaid seems to preach in all his interviews. Having said that I believe that we need a caretaker government for a few years not elections that could cause further instability.
 
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sirimran

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Salaam....Jani India ke saboot aapne kab dekh liye?? hum tu roz akhbaaron mein parhte hein ke Pakistan saboot maang raha hai aur wo Hafiz Saeed ko maang rahe hein. Jab saboot diye to list mein maujood kai bandey kab ke mar chukey thay aur documents bhi complete nahin thay. Pata nahin kaisey India subko itna pakeeza lagne lag gaya hai... kya yeh saboot koi Pak vs India cricket match ki ticket hai jo news channel per chalwa di jaye?? mein tu kisi country ko media per documents dete hue nahin dekha. Aapka pata nahi kahan se Indian saboot dekh liye. Agar wo saboot GHQ mein nahin aur Rehman Malik ke paas bhi hon tu wo Imran ko q dikhaye??? kya post hai uske paas abi? kuch nahin. Sub kuch pyar se nahin milta dunya mein. Political aur military, donon means chahye hote hein. Imran ko Political front sambhalna chahye aur Military ko baandkh ker India ke hawale kerne ki baat nahin kerni chahye warna clash hoga aur wo hum mein se koi nahin chahta. Mein bhi Imran ka fan hun lekin kya wo immortal hai?? Chalo usne 2/3 le li aur aik month ke baad koi usey Liaquat Ali Khan ki tarha maar de tu kahan jaein ge hum? Is liye kisi aik fard ke liye institution ko weak ker dene mein koi samajhdaari nahin. Baaki Allah behtar jaanta hai. Neither me nor anyone else is perfect.

well thats very well said. Lekin mein sirf itna chahoon ga keh agar waqi mein saboot nahi diye india ne aur Allah kare ke aisa ho tu rehman malik ya baqi log is ko deny kyu nahi kartay. kyu ke aap ne bhi dekha hoga keh yahi aaj tak tv channel ka anchor pata nahi kitni baar bol chuka hai ye suboot diye hain suboot diye hain. sun kar bari koft hoti hai. na tu mein india ka fan hu aur na hi koi interest hai . mera marna jeena sirf pakistan ke liye hai. tehreek insaaf hamari manzil nahi bus manzil ke liye aik zariya hai. Doosri baat ye ke shayed aap ne ghor se interview unka nahi suna imran khan khabi bhi institutions ko weak nahi karega agar aap ko us par poora bharosa ho. wo tu kehta hai keh jo institution ho usko apne constitutional jurisdiction mein kaam karna chahiye. mujhe poora yaqeen hai ke hamari agencies pakistan ki difa ke liye hain. lekin aap is baat se bhi ittifaq karen gey keh aaj nawaz shareef inhi ki pedawar hai . agar nawaz shareef na hota tu shayed kuch behtari aati. mujhay pata hai keh kin circumstances ki bunyaad par nawaz shareef ko banaya tha. lekin unconstitutional tareeqe ko apnanay ka anjam bhi hum dekh chukay hai. IK to Allah zindagi aur kamyaabi de lekin mujay pata hai keh kuch bhi ho sakta hai lekin umeed pe tu dunya qayam. ye IK hi tu hai jis ki waja se youth active ho gayee hai warna youth ko kya pata tha politics kis chirya ka naam hai
 
Great Reply!!!!!!!!!!!!! , they think that in Islam , evry tom , **** and harry can claim Saint/ Khalifa......weather public majority curse on them
 

hussainy81

Minister (2k+ posts)
A Genuine Reply and vey well thought out..If u don't convince people, confuse them thats all these guys are doing...
 

musman

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
You have no need to reply him. He himself is confused. I agree he is a patriotic and inshAllah a good Muslim but what he says does not make sense to me. War is not always the solution. What Imran is saying is more approachable to find political solution of every problem.

He is the first to say stop war of terror and stop killing your own people. He is against drone attacks. He talks about people of Pakistan. Travelling every place in Pakistan to meet people. Me and my whole family vote for IK.
 

N.Khan511

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Banaya kyun tha? aur joh wahan reh gaye woh jahanammi hain? unhain Allah jannat main daakhil nahi honay daiga?

Banaya is liye tha kyunkay wahan Hindu nay tumhain qabul na nahi tha laikin niyyat yeh nahi thi kay wahan kay musalmaan humaray liye mar gaye,

Mera PTI say koi waasta nahi to aakhri waali baat ker kay, PTI kay jaahil tattuon say daad wasulna ya nayi behes say guraiz kernay ka koi faaida nahi

Laikin, haan, agar sawaalat kay jawab mil jain to bahut mushkur hoonga

Zaid Zaman kay "Pan-Islamism" main India aur unkay musalmaan kyun nahi aatay? Kya woh khuda na khasta murtad hain?

ooo mian arastoo.....apni ladai laddd..........
 
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sheraz.ahmad

New Member
well, I am a PTI supporter and I feel kind of shame. You guys do not have any logical reply to Zaid's post. You are just shouting. There was guy at the start of this thread. He was calling someone an "EDIOT"... haha!

Man! you cannot even spell idiot.

Imran Khan's stance on India and his interview were disappointing. How can we be friends with a nation who has been trying to crush us since the day we were born...!!! How can we be friends with a nation who has been killing innocent Muslims for nothing.

How can we be friends with a nation whose trying destabilize us.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

This letter was written by a child with no sense and understanding of either politics or strategy building.
Imran Khan is a good person. I am a PTI member but Imran Khan really behaved like a chicken in that show. He owned all the allegations. Even Musharraf was far better than IK handling indiots and their naive narratives.
I watched the whole program. IK was talking as he was talking to pakistani audience. What he should keep in mind is that when a senior politician like him is outside country, then he is representing Pakistan and should behave like an ambassador.
They keep barking about Hafiz Saeed, IK should have said that in Pakistan we have something called freedom of speech and he is free to express himself, just as the late indian Bal Thackery and other RSS guys enjoy in India.
The program leader called Azad Kashmir for POK and IK didnt notice that. Even UN categorize Indian occupied territory as disputed and calling Azad Kashmir for POK is just a joke. POK is a fabricated cheap childish term, which is only used in india.
Azad Kashmir has its own assembly and prime minister. Its the indian occupied Kashmir where public demand for a referendum is hold down with the help of a seven hundred thousand army.
Later he asked whether IK feared for his life, because the ISI or the Pak army could maybe kill him. That question was just so naive and IK didnt take any notice of this allegation on our security pillars. He only focused on the latest part. While he should have taken the first in consideration and should have asked him in return why he think ISI or the army should kill him. They tried their best to portray army and the ISI as villains. IK just sat there like a naive child.
It was totally embarrassing to watch a pakistani politician sitting and answering like that.
Total program was a disaster.
The control and command of our nuclear assets are best kept under army and the only reason why the ISI is serving Pakistan with its best ability is because they have never been under the control of corrupt politicians, and inshallah army and the ISI will never come under civil control. Otherwise ISI will become as non-functional as IB and FIA.
The situation of Pak army and the turk army cannot be compared at all. The turk army were pro west "kamalians" and their government is now islam oriented, but in Pakistan our army is islam oriented and patriot while our politicians are pro west and corrupt.
IK said also that we have to take away the narrative of Jihad, and saying something like this in India is like a wet dream for indians. Jihad is the soul of Islam. No one can take away this narrative. The british tried the same by promoting Marzatta from Qadyan.
IK should have said that some people are misusing the narrative of jihad. But he completely showed his lack of knowledge when it comes to TTP and the Afghan taliban. He is sitting in India and giving such loose statements on our security issues while India itself is supporting TTP, BLA and is the biggest threat to the whole region.
I am a member of PTI. I support IK only because he is a better choice than the existing stooges on the political arena. But one thing is for sure. He need to be briefed on our security issues and he has to behave like an ambassador and not own such cheap allegations on his country. My advice to all PTI members is that they have a role to play and take part in political decisions within PTI. Engage yourself, and express your concerns, if you dont do that or do not have ability to do that but only want to play a role of a blind voter, then the whole gaga about bringing change will only be a dream for us. No change will ever come until you guys change your role.
The last thing. The program host asked about Sarabjeet and demanded that Pakistan should release him. Sarabjeet was convicted in a court with all evidences. By coming with such a demand the host showed disrespect to our judiciary while IK was only focused on defending his party by telling that no one from his party demanded something like that. What a looser.
Sarabjeet should be hanged and it should be done soon. He killed hundreds of pakistanis in different terrorist attacks. We have to create a public demand on this issue.
For the future, IK should act and behave like mature leader and ambassador of his country and pakistani interests. If he cant do that, how can he deserve to lead the nation?

Nothing but one word for your effort i.e Masha'Allah!
 

Jazz_01

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Sheer, all good, but you shouldn't call him idiot. He is just a emotional character and when people think from angers he or she lost vision. That's why we call IK a true Leader. Calm and brave. He talks from heart and meaningful. He knows his enemy and friends. His personality admired by, not only east but west too. Love you sir IK.

Hate you stupid IK......please check your typo...an emotional. Yaar urdu mein likh diya karo.
 
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fasmik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Reply to Zaid Hamids open letter to Imran Khan

Mein ne samjha ke Imran Khan ne jawab diya hai.....yeh tu koi khhota dimagh nikla. Oye tu apni taleem tu bata, zara pata lage tu kya sauda hai. Imran's interview in India was a SHAME.......I also want NOORAS and 10% out but not on the expense of Armed forces. Liaquat Ali Khan also trusted India and stopped the 1948 war.......we are still waiting for those voting to take place.

I AGREE WITH ZAID HAMID..........NO ELECTION FOR 3 YEARS. After that I hope there is not Zardari as president and Imran come to power.
PAKISTAN ARMY ZINDABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
Ignorant fools like you will always deceive oneself and others.
Dont chant slogans for Pak Army in madness. Can you tell me one solid and undisputed achievement by pak army in our history? just one...They are a bunch of selfish parasites and nothing else.
Im waiting 4 ur reply.....
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I'll make it very easy for your minds to understand. Pakistan was made for Khilafat e Rashida. Imran or any other so called leaders are incapable of that even you guys know that. Elections are of course not the system for it. So this is not the way and He or anyone else you know is not the guy. Allah himself will bring the one on top, when, and how ever he thinks fit. Khatam
 

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